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Posted 24 March 2017 - 12:40 AM

I never seen Rwby. I was talking about Naruto and his "wife." He isn't happy with her and therefore he can't have fun with her. When he gets with Sakura-Chan that would be a whole different story since his happiness level will be in a place higher than space.

Completely off topic, when's major Kong going to show up riding his nuke during the wedding. Or hell have sephiroth show up and do hinata what he did to aerith only actually killing her.
I really want naruto to go r rated like last of us and Logan levels mainly naruto wouldn't be able to preech his false kitten in those situtation. You know he wouldn't be able to Handle the stuff joel or Logan through in those stories, I mean sakura could probably deal with the stuff in those stories and be badass and hinata will be deal in the beginning or turned into a clicker or bloater if you go last of us.

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Posted 24 March 2017 - 03:58 AM

Felt like posting in this topic because I don't know about anyone else, but this week, even the past few weeks, have been like reopening an old wound. Naruto ended back in the end of 2014, and despite some posts here and there, this reemergence of NaruHina talk with the wedding has just been grating.

 

I follow CrunchyRoll and other anime media companies on Facebook and Twitter and the amount of NaruHina stuff revolving their wedding has just been annoying. I saw it coming, but bleh, made me want to get this off my chest.

 

Now of course it looks like they're going full steam ahead with the adventures of Bolt and Salad, so we have that to skip completely because the Naruto franchise is dead to us look forward to.

 

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Long live Bolt and Salad.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 05:46 AM

Check rwby out its really good. The point about the characters having fun was about like with friends. Naruto having fun with his so called friends. I image naruto and hinata having a boring life with naruto being a drunk workaholic and hinata having no life outside naruto and staying at home the whole time.

I'll check it out. Thanks. Also, the main person I have ever seen Naruto have fun with, have deep conversations with like on a personal level, smile and laugh with, etc. is Sakura-Chan. When he's around her he's in bliss Heaven. He has his moments with a few of his friends, but with Sakura-Chan it's on a level by itself.

 

Completely off topic, when's major Kong going to show up riding his nuke during the wedding. Or hell have sephiroth show up and do hinata what he did to aerith only actually killing her.
I really want naruto to go r rated like last of us and Logan levels mainly naruto wouldn't be able to preech his false kitten in those situtation. You know he wouldn't be able to Handle the stuff joel or Logan through in those stories, I mean sakura could probably deal with the stuff in those stories and be badass and hinata will be deal in the beginning or turned into a clicker or bloater if you go last of us.

I been having visions of the real Naruto and Sakura-Chan who is together coming from the real Narutoverse and witnessing the whole NaruHina wedding. The real Naruto without hesitation Rasengans the new Naruto into oblivion after seeing the choices the new Naruto made(not pursuing Sakura-Chan and lying to himself about his feelings, being a quitter, getting a haircut like Obito, becoming a scumbag, etc.)  and then daring to look like him. Then the real Sakura-Chan feeling the same way about the new "Sakura-Chan" sends Hinata and the new "Sakura-Chan" flying to space with a chakra enhanced punch. A punch for Hinata trying to steal the man she loves and a punch for the new "Sakura-Chan" choosing to be with Sasuke instead of Naruto, making her look bad, and actively pushing Naruto and Hinata together, as well as not pursuing a career as a Medic-Nin.  Then the real Naruto and Sakura-Chan proceed to get married in "Naruto's" and Hinata's place.


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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:44 AM

I'll check it out. Thanks. Also, the main person I have ever seen Naruto have fun with, have deep conversations with like on a personal level, smile and laugh with, etc. is Sakura-Chan. When he's around her he's in bliss Heaven. He has his moments with a few of his friends, but with Sakura-Chan it's on a level by itself.
 

I been having visions of the real Naruto and Sakura-Chan who is together coming from the real Narutoverse and witnessing the whole NaruHina wedding. The real Naruto without hesitation Rasengans the new Naruto into oblivion after seeing the choices the new Naruto made(not pursuing Sakura-Chan and lying to himself about his feelings, being a quitter, getting a haircut like Obito, becoming a scumbag, etc.)  and then daring to look like him. Then the real Sakura-Chan feeling the same way about the new "Sakura-Chan" sends Hinata and the new "Sakura-Chan" flying to space with a chakra enhanced punch. A punch for Hinata trying to steal the man she loves and a punch for the new "Sakura-Chan" choosing to be with Sasuke instead of Naruto, making her look bad, and actively pushing Naruto and Hinata together, as well as not pursuing a career as a Medic-Nin.  Then the real Naruto and Sakura-Chan proceed to get married in "Naruto's" and Hinata's place.

Ya sakura and maybe are the only ones he really hung out with and it wasn't forced. That's all the more baffling why he gave up out sakura. I mean at least give naruto a chance to show he loves her, but nope we get nothing.
I'd love if real naruto and Sakura did that and take their place at the wedding, it seems like a refenace to road to ninja. I always wonder what the young naruto and Sakura like part 1 and pain arc naruto and Sakura version of them would think of them in the ending.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 12:28 AM

Sorry to interject.

 

Whoa its been a yrs since I've been here. Used to be an avid poster, man I miss those days.

 

Still think ending of Naruto was absolute kitten. No evidence of SS/NH through out entire manga, except one sided borderline obsessions over from Hinata and Sakura.

 

Did see substantial evidence for NS in terms of things that happened BETWEEN Naruto and Sakura as well as motiffs laid throughout series.

 

Amway glad to see you guys are still going strong. I actually came here to talk about a anime clothing company ive started but no one seems to visit the artist center lol.



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Posted 25 March 2017 - 02:13 PM

I give this guy credit for standing up on how bad the anime ending was unlike everybody else.. here it is: 

 

 

C'mon guys, Naruto is not a shoujo anime. It's shonen. Despite that, they end on a wedding instead of showing the build up towards Naruto achieving his dream of becoming Hokage? Seriously, we sat through all of those episodes, listened to all of his speeches, delt with all the stupidity and fillers and stupid fillers, and yet, despite all this, Naruto Shippuden focuses on the most minor aspect to the series: romance.

Look, I get it, you enjoy seeing your ship come to fruition... but it's not what Naruto's about. If I just watched the show on TV like I would have watched DBZ as a kid, I would never get to see Naruto achieve his dream. This focus on the wedding and the high budget animation in comparison to most of the canon scenes and fights just left a bad taste in my mouth.

They couldn't even do chapter 700.

This ending was bullcrap and I'm calling all of you out for eating it up anyway.

 
 
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I actually agree, they really overdid the romance stuff especially these last 10 episodes.

I would've preferred seeing Naruto going on missions and learning how to be a decent hokage instead. Or give us some Naruto and Sasuke bromance, that's a lot more interesting than a wedding.

Jiraiya wasn't even mentioned once. He was more of a fatherly figure than Iruka ever was. I always considered Iruka being like Naruto's big brother.

 
 
 
 
They ruined him in boruto and it makes me sad. Including his awful haircut he should've had the cut like his dads. In that episode road to tenten where he had those really long sides. It should've been that not what he has now. His current cut doesn't suit him at all. A growth similar to Minato would've been perfect. There's art of it and it's just great.
 
 

 

 
I actually agree with you. I would rather see chapter 700 animated or at the very least, Naruto's interaction with his son and the final few pages with Naruto commencing the gokage council. Even if it was about being acknowledged, that shouldn't undermine all the moments he declared he'll be hokage. Since part 1, he's said that. In fights against Kiba, Neji and Kabuto he's declared it. He told his mother he'll be the orange hokage. Even after Itachi told him about the link between acknowledgement and hokage, Naruto was still saying he'll be hokage. You have moments of Obito telling him he'll be hokage. You have Naruto lecturing Obito on what it means to be hokage. You have Tobirama saying he'll surpass his brother as hokage. Shikamaru saying he needs to support Naruto as hokage. Etc etc etc. it was about acknowledgment but it was also about being hokage. That's what it's all been leading up to.
 

What i got instead was a finale focused on Shikamaru holding hands with Temari, Ino holding hands with Sai, obviously Naruto and Hinata and for some weird reason, Sakura, a bird, and Sasuke with a random minimal note that just reads one word. It did feel like the ending to a shoujo series. It didn't feel like a conclusion to the shonen series, but a conclusion to this arc that had a very different tone to the series as a whole. Even then, the episode was about the moment before the wedding began, not the wedding itself. I don't think we can just say it's about bonds and ignore the very heavy and obvious focus on romance in a series the original author very clearly declared is not about romance 

 

I couldn't agree more. So disappointing that the studio kept feeding these fans something to post for their tumblr accounts. "but but a lot of people came to support Naruto, etc." ah, he is already a living legend in the shinobi world. He doesn't need the wedding to show that people will bond together for him because even without it, everyone already acknowledges him. In konoha, way back pain's arc. And after the war, the whole world.

The animation from the climax of the war episodes, with Obito's and Madara's scenes were so poorly animated it hurts watching it a couple of times.

They could have just animate chapter 700 and filled it with some character interactions. But noooo. Ahh it could've been much better. Shippuden deserves better. We deserve better.

But oh well, it ended with episode 479 for me
 
 
Have to agree, I only just got around to watching it this morning and I thought it was just a cheap ending for everything it had made us all feel in the past. To be honest, I thought the anime was just going to end when the war ended, and when it kept going I thought, What left is there to do??? Oh right Naruto hasn't become hokage yet....... Nope we were waiting for a wedding... of a romance we didn't even see..... Really disappointed to not feel anything from the ending of what made me feel so much in it's years of airing.
 
 
 

Naruhina is so forced so yeah the ending was bad. They had no development whatsoever and naruto only decided he loved her back after realizing he should accept that she loves him. Oh, and after 5 minutes of genjutsu which he shouldn't have been affected by. Naruto barely payed her any mind and they barely talked. Hinata watched him from behind a tree when he was lonely instead of helping him. Sasuke was narutos only goal and sasuke said that naruto was the only one to save him from his loneliness. Iruka was the first to acknowledge naruto, not Hinata. Hinata cared more about a stupid scarf than her sister hanabi. Naruto sleeps on the couch and looks miserable with his family and has to take pills at breakfast. Are you seeing the picture?

Oh yeah and neji died just so NH could have a moment. Unacceptable.

And those scenes in the last with naruto and Hinata as little kids NEVER happened. In the show it shows sasuke and naruto acknowledging each other because they are both lonely as little kids. Hinata was never kittening there and even now In boruto because they decided to put those two together the family is entirely dysfunctional. Naruto stays in his office all the time while Hinata barely knows anything about him. They barely talk and the kid feels neglected and acts like a fool. Happy family? Meant to be ship? Ha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From what I saw a majority of the comments tend to agree, but a few did defend the reasonings for the ending, but still I'm glad there people out there besides ourselves that can see just how bad the anime ending was. 


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Posted 25 March 2017 - 06:53 PM

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 08:15 PM

I give this guy credit for standing up on how bad the anime ending was unlike everybody else.. here it is: 

 

 

C'mon guys, Naruto is not a shoujo anime. It's shonen. Despite that, they end on a wedding instead of showing the build up towards Naruto achieving his dream of becoming Hokage? Seriously, we sat through all of those episodes, listened to all of his speeches, delt with all the stupidity and fillers and stupid fillers, and yet, despite all this, Naruto Shippuden focuses on the most minor aspect to the series: romance.

Look, I get it, you enjoy seeing your ship come to fruition... but it's not what Naruto's about. If I just watched the show on TV like I would have watched DBZ as a kid, I would never get to see Naruto achieve his dream. This focus on the wedding and the high budget animation in comparison to most of the canon scenes and fights just left a bad taste in my mouth.

They couldn't even do chapter 700.

This ending was bullcrap and I'm calling all of you out for eating it up anyway.

 
 
Here also some comments too: 
 
 
 
 

I actually agree, they really overdid the romance stuff especially these last 10 episodes.

I would've preferred seeing Naruto going on missions and learning how to be a decent hokage instead. Or give us some Naruto and Sasuke bromance, that's a lot more interesting than a wedding.

Jiraiya wasn't even mentioned once. He was more of a fatherly figure than Iruka ever was. I always considered Iruka being like Naruto's big brother.

 
 
 
 
They ruined him in boruto and it makes me sad. Including his awful haircut he should've had the cut like his dads. In that episode road to tenten where he had those really long sides. It should've been that not what he has now. His current cut doesn't suit him at all. A growth similar to Minato would've been perfect. There's art of it and it's just great.
 
 

 

 
I actually agree with you. I would rather see chapter 700 animated or at the very least, Naruto's interaction with his son and the final few pages with Naruto commencing the gokage council. Even if it was about being acknowledged, that shouldn't undermine all the moments he declared he'll be hokage. Since part 1, he's said that. In fights against Kiba, Neji and Kabuto he's declared it. He told his mother he'll be the orange hokage. Even after Itachi told him about the link between acknowledgement and hokage, Naruto was still saying he'll be hokage. You have moments of Obito telling him he'll be hokage. You have Naruto lecturing Obito on what it means to be hokage. You have Tobirama saying he'll surpass his brother as hokage. Shikamaru saying he needs to support Naruto as hokage. Etc etc etc. it was about acknowledgment but it was also about being hokage. That's what it's all been leading up to.
 

What i got instead was a finale focused on Shikamaru holding hands with Temari, Ino holding hands with Sai, obviously Naruto and Hinata and for some weird reason, Sakura, a bird, and Sasuke with a random minimal note that just reads one word. It did feel like the ending to a shoujo series. It didn't feel like a conclusion to the shonen series, but a conclusion to this arc that had a very different tone to the series as a whole. Even then, the episode was about the moment before the wedding began, not the wedding itself. I don't think we can just say it's about bonds and ignore the very heavy and obvious focus on romance in a series the original author very clearly declared is not about romance 

 

I couldn't agree more. So disappointing that the studio kept feeding these fans something to post for their tumblr accounts. "but but a lot of people came to support Naruto, etc." ah, he is already a living legend in the shinobi world. He doesn't need the wedding to show that people will bond together for him because even without it, everyone already acknowledges him. In konoha, way back pain's arc. And after the war, the whole world.

The animation from the climax of the war episodes, with Obito's and Madara's scenes were so poorly animated it hurts watching it a couple of times.

They could have just animate chapter 700 and filled it with some character interactions. But noooo. Ahh it could've been much better. Shippuden deserves better. We deserve better.

But oh well, it ended with episode 479 for me
 
 
Have to agree, I only just got around to watching it this morning and I thought it was just a cheap ending for everything it had made us all feel in the past. To be honest, I thought the anime was just going to end when the war ended, and when it kept going I thought, What left is there to do??? Oh right Naruto hasn't become hokage yet....... Nope we were waiting for a wedding... of a romance we didn't even see..... Really disappointed to not feel anything from the ending of what made me feel so much in it's years of airing.
 
 
 

Naruhina is so forced so yeah the ending was bad. They had no development whatsoever and naruto only decided he loved her back after realizing he should accept that she loves him. Oh, and after 5 minutes of genjutsu which he shouldn't have been affected by. Naruto barely payed her any mind and they barely talked. Hinata watched him from behind a tree when he was lonely instead of helping him. Sasuke was narutos only goal and sasuke said that naruto was the only one to save him from his loneliness. Iruka was the first to acknowledge naruto, not Hinata. Hinata cared more about a stupid scarf than her sister hanabi. Naruto sleeps on the couch and looks miserable with his family and has to take pills at breakfast. Are you seeing the picture?

Oh yeah and neji died just so NH could have a moment. Unacceptable.

And those scenes in the last with naruto and Hinata as little kids NEVER happened. In the show it shows sasuke and naruto acknowledging each other because they are both lonely as little kids. Hinata was never kittening there and even now In boruto because they decided to put those two together the family is entirely dysfunctional. Naruto stays in his office all the time while Hinata barely knows anything about him. They barely talk and the kid feels neglected and acts like a fool. Happy family? Meant to be ship? Ha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From what I saw a majority of the comments tend to agree, but a few did defend the reasonings for the ending, but still I'm glad there people out there besides ourselves that can see just how bad the anime ending was. 

 

OMG! All of those comments of how much they hate the anime ending it makes me cry for joy. :cry:  There are still TRUE Naruto fans out there who only care about his dream of becoming Hokage and not marrying a big breasted girl.  


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 01:17 AM

 

OMG! All of those comments of how much they hate the anime ending it makes me cry for joy. :cry:  There are still TRUE Naruto fans out there who only care about his dream of becoming Hokage and not marrying a big breasted girl.  

Well most fans are rather neutral when it comes to pairings, they only hate it when its shoved in their faces.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:09 PM

@ Lucky and Graven

 

I'm not surprised truth be told, there ARE a lot of genuine fans that feel cheated and outraged at the garbage spewing out of this franchise zombie. NH fans are not the dominant group in the franchise they are just most vocal and bratty. The vast majority of fans' only mistake is that we all thought their opinion wouldn't change anything as it is so insignificant. Well, lesson learned. SP, At least the ones that were all "HAIL GODDESS HINATA!!!! pedo clowns", are avaricious a**wipes and Kishimoto Masashi is a spineless coward that would not stick up for his own creation when it needed him most because of  "peer pressure" :hm:  :down:  :dry:  :bash: It's funny, I NOW realize where Hinata gets her lack of grit from :yes:


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 12:33 PM

@ Lucky and Graven
 
I'm not surprised truth be told, there ARE a lot of genuine fans that feel cheated and outraged at the garbage spewing out of this franchise zombie. NH fans are not the dominant group in the franchise they are just most vocal and bratty. The vast majority of fans' only mistake is that we all thought their opinion wouldn't change anything as it is so insignificant. Well, lesson learned. SP, At least the ones that were all "HAIL GODDESS HINATA!!!! pedo clowns" are avaricious a**wipes and Kishimoto Masashi is a spineless coward that would not stick up for his own creation when it needed him most because of  "peer pressure" :hm:  :down:  :dry:  :bash: It's funny, I NOW realize where Hinata gets her lack of grit from :yes:

So she has no spine cause kishi has none. I buy it , cause hinata can't say no to any one or call any one out on their problems.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:21 PM

I give this guy credit for standing up on how bad the anime ending was unlike everybody else.. here it is: 

 

 

C'mon guys, Naruto is not a shoujo anime. It's shonen. Despite that, they end on a wedding instead of showing the build up towards Naruto achieving his dream of becoming Hokage? Seriously, we sat through all of those episodes, listened to all of his speeches, delt with all the stupidity and fillers and stupid fillers, and yet, despite all this, Naruto Shippuden focuses on the most minor aspect to the series: romance.

Look, I get it, you enjoy seeing your ship come to fruition... but it's not what Naruto's about. If I just watched the show on TV like I would have watched DBZ as a kid, I would never get to see Naruto achieve his dream. This focus on the wedding and the high budget animation in comparison to most of the canon scenes and fights just left a bad taste in my mouth.

They couldn't even do chapter 700.

This ending was bullcrap and I'm calling all of you out for eating it up anyway.

 
 
Here also some comments too: 
 
 
 
 

I actually agree, they really overdid the romance stuff especially these last 10 episodes.

I would've preferred seeing Naruto going on missions and learning how to be a decent hokage instead. Or give us some Naruto and Sasuke bromance, that's a lot more interesting than a wedding.

Jiraiya wasn't even mentioned once. He was more of a fatherly figure than Iruka ever was. I always considered Iruka being like Naruto's big brother.

 
 
 
 
They ruined him in boruto and it makes me sad. Including his awful haircut he should've had the cut like his dads. In that episode road to tenten where he had those really long sides. It should've been that not what he has now. His current cut doesn't suit him at all. A growth similar to Minato would've been perfect. There's art of it and it's just great.
 
 

 

 
I actually agree with you. I would rather see chapter 700 animated or at the very least, Naruto's interaction with his son and the final few pages with Naruto commencing the gokage council. Even if it was about being acknowledged, that shouldn't undermine all the moments he declared he'll be hokage. Since part 1, he's said that. In fights against Kiba, Neji and Kabuto he's declared it. He told his mother he'll be the orange hokage. Even after Itachi told him about the link between acknowledgement and hokage, Naruto was still saying he'll be hokage. You have moments of Obito telling him he'll be hokage. You have Naruto lecturing Obito on what it means to be hokage. You have Tobirama saying he'll surpass his brother as hokage. Shikamaru saying he needs to support Naruto as hokage. Etc etc etc. it was about acknowledgment but it was also about being hokage. That's what it's all been leading up to.
 

What i got instead was a finale focused on Shikamaru holding hands with Temari, Ino holding hands with Sai, obviously Naruto and Hinata and for some weird reason, Sakura, a bird, and Sasuke with a random minimal note that just reads one word. It did feel like the ending to a shoujo series. It didn't feel like a conclusion to the shonen series, but a conclusion to this arc that had a very different tone to the series as a whole. Even then, the episode was about the moment before the wedding began, not the wedding itself. I don't think we can just say it's about bonds and ignore the very heavy and obvious focus on romance in a series the original author very clearly declared is not about romance 

 

I couldn't agree more. So disappointing that the studio kept feeding these fans something to post for their tumblr accounts. "but but a lot of people came to support Naruto, etc." ah, he is already a living legend in the shinobi world. He doesn't need the wedding to show that people will bond together for him because even without it, everyone already acknowledges him. In konoha, way back pain's arc. And after the war, the whole world.

The animation from the climax of the war episodes, with Obito's and Madara's scenes were so poorly animated it hurts watching it a couple of times.

They could have just animate chapter 700 and filled it with some character interactions. But noooo. Ahh it could've been much better. Shippuden deserves better. We deserve better.

But oh well, it ended with episode 479 for me
 
 
Have to agree, I only just got around to watching it this morning and I thought it was just a cheap ending for everything it had made us all feel in the past. To be honest, I thought the anime was just going to end when the war ended, and when it kept going I thought, What left is there to do??? Oh right Naruto hasn't become hokage yet....... Nope we were waiting for a wedding... of a romance we didn't even see..... Really disappointed to not feel anything from the ending of what made me feel so much in it's years of airing.
 
 
 

Naruhina is so forced so yeah the ending was bad. They had no development whatsoever and naruto only decided he loved her back after realizing he should accept that she loves him. Oh, and after 5 minutes of genjutsu which he shouldn't have been affected by. Naruto barely payed her any mind and they barely talked. Hinata watched him from behind a tree when he was lonely instead of helping him. Sasuke was narutos only goal and sasuke said that naruto was the only one to save him from his loneliness. Iruka was the first to acknowledge naruto, not Hinata. Hinata cared more about a stupid scarf than her sister hanabi. Naruto sleeps on the couch and looks miserable with his family and has to take pills at breakfast. Are you seeing the picture?

Oh yeah and neji died just so NH could have a moment. Unacceptable.

And those scenes in the last with naruto and Hinata as little kids NEVER happened. In the show it shows sasuke and naruto acknowledging each other because they are both lonely as little kids. Hinata was never kittening there and even now In boruto because they decided to put those two together the family is entirely dysfunctional. Naruto stays in his office all the time while Hinata barely knows anything about him. They barely talk and the kid feels neglected and acts like a fool. Happy family? Meant to be ship? Ha.

 

 

 

 

 

 

From what I saw a majority of the comments tend to agree, but a few did defend the reasonings for the ending, but still I'm glad there people out there besides ourselves that can see just how bad the anime ending was. 

 

 

 

OMG! All of those comments of how much they hate the anime ending it makes me cry for joy. :cry:  There are still TRUE Naruto fans out there who only care about his dream of becoming Hokage and not marrying a big breasted girl.  

 

The fact that the FINALE of the Naruto animated series was all about Hinata achieving her dream (marrying Naruto) rather than Naruto achieving his (becoming Hokage) shows what SP was really about, the romance, rather than being a 'battle' manga/anime. Kishi even showed his true colors by bowing to SP, by making that weird one-shot of the inauguration. He couldn't even show Naruto becoming Hokage that way, instead Konohamaru became Hokage. Those two things right there show that Naruto dissolved from a good 'copy' of DBZ to pretty much a romance manga/anime that focused solely on the pairings of the characters, not the characters themselves. I call it the 'Twilight' effect. Several other series have fallen into that trap as well, including Harry Potter IMO. 



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 06:44 PM

The fact that the FINALE of the Naruto animated series was all about Hinata achieving her dream (marrying Naruto) rather than Naruto achieving his (becoming Hokage) shows what SP was really about, the romance, rather than being a 'battle' manga/anime. Kishi even showed his true colors by bowing to SP, by making that weird one-shot of the inauguration. He couldn't even show Naruto becoming Hokage that way, instead Konohamaru became Hokage. Those two things right there show that Naruto dissolved from a good 'copy' of DBZ to pretty much a romance manga/anime that focused solely on the pairings of the characters, not the characters themselves. I call it the 'Twilight' effect. Several other series have fallen into that trap as well, including Harry Potter IMO.

Harry potter didn't get that bad since Harry was still the focus and we saw more of him and ginny than we did of naruto and hinata. I might have to rewatch the eight Harry potter movies to see the Harry and Ginny relationship. But at least j.k. even admitted Harry would have been better with Hermione, but kishi is to much of a payday to admit he kittened up and will take it up the ass by sp.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 09:06 PM

Harry potter didn't get that bad since Harry was still the focus and we saw more of him and ginny than we did of naruto and hinata. I might have to rewatch the eight Harry potter movies to see the Harry and Ginny relationship. But at least j.k. even admitted Harry would have been better with Hermione, but kishi is to much of a payday to admit he kittened up and will take it up the ass by sp.

Ginny didn't appear that much in the Harry Potter series. She was seen cumulatively few times in the Chambers of Secrets and Half-Blood Prince, and much fewer in the Deathly Hollows. Well, she's a side character.

 

We saw of Harry x Ginny in terms of romance in Half-Blood Prince and it was so sudden. Harry liked Ginny in Half-Blood Prince and Ginny already did like Harry since we saw her in The Chambers of Secrets. That's why JKR admitted that Hermione was better for Harry cause they spent so much time together and many loved the chemistry between them. Honestly, there were some nice moments between Harry and Hermione in every movie.

 

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 09:28 PM

Ginny didn't appear that much in the Harry Potter series. She was seen cumulatively few times in the Chambers of Secrets and Half-Blood Prince, and much fewer in the Deathly Hollows. Well, she's a side character.
 
We saw of Harry x Ginny in terms of romance in Half-Blood Prince and it was so sudden. Harry liked Ginny in Half-Blood Prince and Ginny already did like Harry since we saw her in The Chambers of Secrets. That's why JKR admitted that Hermione was better for Harry cause they spent so much time together and many loved the chemistry between them. Honestly, there were some nice moments between Harry and Hermione in every movie.
 
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I agree but I wasn't that mad about the end pairings as I am with naruto and bleach. Again at least she admitted she messed up isn't saying we miss read it or that was a red herring.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 09:44 PM

I agree but I wasn't that mad about the end pairings as I am with naruto and bleach. Again at least she admitted she messed up isn't saying we miss read it or that was a red herring.

I know that mangakas in Japan don't have much freedom over their manga except the ones that insist like Oda for example. Maybe if he wanted to say anything, he couldn't say it cause Boruto is coming up next.



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Posted 26 March 2017 - 10:03 PM

I know that mangakas in Japan don't have much freedom over their manga except the ones that insist like Oda for example. Maybe if he wanted to say anything, he couldn't say it cause Boruto is coming up next.


True, they give oda more freedom to do what he wants and it helps he's got the story planned from the start unlike kishi or even kubo probably.

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Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:42 PM

why does Oda have so much freedom but Kishi doesn't? The reason is because Oda actually has balls and stands up for HIS story. Kishi can do the same.


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Posted 26 March 2017 - 11:55 PM

why does Oda have so much freedom but Kishi doesn't? The reason is because Oda actually has balls and stands up for HIS story. Kishi can do the same.


That and he plans things out.

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Posted 27 March 2017 - 12:37 AM

Ginny didn't appear that much in the Harry Potter series. She was seen cumulatively few times in the Chambers of Secrets and Half-Blood Prince, and much fewer in the Deathly Hollows. Well, she's a side character.

 

We saw of Harry x Ginny in terms of romance in Half-Blood Prince and it was so sudden. Harry liked Ginny in Half-Blood Prince and Ginny already did like Harry since we saw her in The Chambers of Secrets. That's why JKR admitted that Hermione was better for Harry cause they spent so much time together and many loved the chemistry between them. Honestly, there were some nice moments between Harry and Hermione in every movie.

 

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That's the point. We didn't see Ginny in really any part of the books or films, outside of Chamber and Half-Blood. JKR could have easily put in a few scenes of Harry interacting with Ginny to that pairing a little bit more substantial. Harry and Hermione was the most complete relationship (platonic or romantic) in the series, just like Naruto and Sakura was in the Naruto series. It wasn't until Half-Blood Prince came out that we saw a shift in JKR's writing to put more emphasis on the pairings, and even then it was still more in the background than in Naruto. Kishi or SP decided to go full bore with regards to pairings with Naruto to try and get more fans/money because they saw how popular those type of manga/anime was becoming. 






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