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#44041 RyohkiFan

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:02 AM

Happy new year to everyone who just recently said it! 😀

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:06 AM

Wasn't it confirmed that Nana Mizuki will voice Himawari? If so I think we'll see Sakura's daughter being sidelined for the Hinata's. Sarada will get the crappiest animation and Himawari will be treated as an angel.But most of us won't be around for part 3 so it really wouldn't matter.It still bothers me a little though.

Was she? I am way behind with this stuff lol Only thing I like about Nana Mizuki is the fact she voiced my favorite character in Tales of Symphonia

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:06 AM

 

Happy New Year! Yeah, I've been visiting family, so I haven't been able to be online as much this week. No worries though, I'm not going anywhere. I don't know about anyone else, but I still haven't gotten over that I don't have a Naruto manga chapter to look forward to each week! Talking to everyone here makes me feel better though!!!  :glomp:

 

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:11 AM

Happy New Year one and all. What's new besides the year?

Well if you haven't heard, Ichigo is in touch with someone from the Japanese fandom, and we've been allowed to ask some questions that the person will hopefully respond to.

This is what we've learned so far...
 

A japanese girl told me that when I asked about Junko saying to kishi to shut up; what was people reactions about the movie and the new series, if the rumor about Naruto abusing Hinata is true and if people really muttered under their breaths that they wouldn't watch the movie when Kishi told them to do so.

"Takeuchi-san did stop him from saying anything further & digging himself a deeper grave. She's great like that"

" well there's been a lot of resentment about still continuing. The reviews on yahoo say that and people have been tweeting it"

"not that I've heard. I doubt the animation studio would let that happen. They're in love with hinata over there"

"oh, if you mean during jump festa then people around me refused to clap and a general air of "whatever" from some"



Edit: I forgot this one : "it definitely divided the fan base and a lot of people have quit being fans and will not follow the new series."

 



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:13 AM

I like seeing the last one you added.



 


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:13 AM

Plus Miyazaki is the one that said the anime industry has problems, mainly the fact it's Otaku. Boy, he was right spot on.

 

He said that? He was spot on.

 

Here is an article.

 

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:16 AM

Wasn't it confirmed that Nana Mizuki will voice Himawari? If so I think we'll see Sakura's daughter being sidelined for the Hinata's. Sarada will get the crappiest animation and Himawari will be treated as an angel.But most of us won't be around for part 3 so it really wouldn't matter.It still bothers me a little though.

I'm sorry, but not even the best animation can fix the appearance of this mutant child. I shiver when I think of Himawari's character design. Awful hair cut, purple hair and blue eyes don't seem to fit at all when it comes to her, and- worst of all- her damn whiskers!


Edited by trang95, 01 January 2015 - 07:26 AM.

G . I . N . T . A . M .A

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:19 AM

I'm sorry, but not even the best animation can fix the appearance of this mutant child. I shiver when I think of Himawari's character design. Awful hair cut, purple and blue eyes don't seem to fit at all when it comes to her, and worst of all- her damn whiskers!

I thought I was the only who one thought that... :hug: 😭

Edited by RyohkiFan, 01 January 2015 - 07:23 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:22 AM

I'm sorry, but not even the best animation can fix the appearance of this mutant child. I shiver when I think of Himawari's character design. Awful hair cut, purple and blue eyes don't seem to fit at all when it comes to her, and worst of all- her damn whiskers!

Good thing that monstrosity doesn't exist in my head canon.


 


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:24 AM

I'm sorry, but not even the best animation can fix the appearance of this mutant child. I shiver when I think of Himawari's character design. Awful hair cut, purple and blue eyes don't seem to fit at all when it comes to her, and worst of all- her damn whiskers!

With SP no longer hiding their bias and now even flaunting it shamelessly, don't be surprised when you see Sarada with devil's horns and a tail with a pirate's hook for a hand. All done to make Himawari look good. Really I'm not even joking.

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:26 AM

Happy new years everyone!

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:33 AM

Himawari looked hideous in her movie design. Her hair looks like layers of tissue dyed blue.

 

Naruto's genes were clearly never supposed to mix with hyuugas. Their creepy blank eyes, paired with blonde hair, always made their fanart children look weird as kitten. I'm not surprised Kishi scrapped their useless bloodline and made sure the boy looked nothing like his mother.

 

Oh and Happy New Year everyone! :w00t:


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:36 AM

Time to truly bury the hatchet what with the new year finally upon us... Lets see if the real fan art will make the first year without Naruto more interesting. Lord knows that Part 3 nonsense is just more fanfiction 


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:40 AM

 

Happy New Year! Yeah, I've been visiting family, so I haven't been able to be online as much this week. No worries though, I'm not going anywhere. I don't know about anyone else, but I still haven't gotten over that I don't have a Naruto manga chapter to look forward to each week! Talking to everyone here makes me feel better though!!!  :glomp:

 

And before I forget... :smooch: :love:



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:44 AM

So only her feelings matter?

 

You would have Naruto just accept it right there? With zero regard to how she felt about Sasuke? With zero resolution of her feelings towards Sasuke? He was supposed to just ignore all that and go along with it? 

 

What about him?

 

I just felt that was a little harsh in regards to Naruto because he was forced into an uncomfortable situation, and there really wasn't much he could do. It wasn't entirely his fault, thus the unfairness. All in all, the situation was a sh*tty one, and neither Sakura or Naruto approached it in the correct way. It's unfair to claim one was at fault, because both of them f**cked up. That's what I was trying to say from the start. Neither Sakura nor Naruto are innocent. 

 

 

 

So it's Naruto's fault that his feelings got blown up in front of everybody? So it's Naruto's fault that the only time Sakura ever showed love in front of him was when it was about Sasuke?

 

I never once said that it was ok for Naruto to decide how she felt, but it is damn sure within his rights to challenge her given her history and her sudden change of heart, especially when she told the blatant lie that Sasuke meant nothing to her. 

 

Naruto was wrong for calling her a liar in front of everyone (even though he was justified), but neither was she right for bringing everyone there in the first place. He didn't have the right to tell her how she felt, but nor did she have the right to determine that his feelings were only worth enough for her to manipulate without giving proper thought to them. She should have been straight up with him from the start, as she told Shikimaru she would. Her believing it had do be done doesn't excuse the fact that her actions were just as much wrong as his were. 

Excellent, excellent posts man. I'm very glad that there are members like you and Narufan85 who look at that whole fiasco from Naruto's pov.

 

Here's what I think-- I find it difficult to believe Sakura was completely honest. 

 

Why do I say this ? Because 693 and 699. If she was honest about having gotten over Sasuke, why would she say the things she did in 693 and 699..?

 

The strongest argument against her confession not being completely honest is '' Kishimoto said she was honest ! ''. I think its a little bit hypocritical to accept this particular comment of Kishimoto's as the undisputed, absolute truth when every other thing he's said/ been saying is being laughed at. 

 

Now, her intentions were purely for Naruto's well-being and it shows how much she cared about him. Her desire to protect Naruto from confronting Sasuke , even if it meant losing out on her dream of one day seeing Team Seven laugh together again, is heroic to say the least. BUT this doesn't mean her words were honest and she had no conflict. 

 

Why is Naruto being blamed for not accepting her confession..? Like you pointed out very well, Naruto up until that point had never seen Sakura care for him the way he saw her care for Sasuke. He was shocked when he heard her confess. We can see this from his expressions and the very first thing he asks her " But..I thought you really loved Sasuke. What changed..? ". We cannot blame him for his disbelief, it was to be expected. 

 

What Naruto always wanted to hear, finally came. But along with sheer joy came confusion and then doubts started to creep inside his head. Her confession seemed out of place and it came at a strange time. Naturally he wanted to quell his doubts. He asks her '' Why now, all of a sudden..? and what happened, I thought you loved Sasuke ".

 

Sakura says " I switched from Sasuke to you.They say a woman's heart changes like the autumn skies ".  Put yourself in Naruto's place. You love a girl from all your heart, you know she really loves another guy. One day she comes to you and confesses. You get happy but you also hesitate. You get insecure, you want answers, you need answers from her. But when she merely says " I switched, girls are fickle " would you not get angry..?

 

Naruto gets bashed because he believed, for a good reason, that she might be lying. Naruto gets bashed because he tried to confront her and said " You are probably lying and I hate people who lie to themselves ".

 

This is the same guy who promised on his life that he would bring Sasuke back to her, this is the same guy who was prepared to bury his own feelings for as long as Sakura-chan was happy. And now, just because he wasn't convinced that she was being honest , just because he claimed she was lying to herself, he's reprehensible..?

 

Here's what people need to understand -- Naruto and Sakura are Best Friends. Naruto and Sakura know each other better than anyone else. Sakura is not a stranger to Naruto !  They are allowed to confront each other, get angry at each other sometimes, expect complete honesty from each other, reprimand the other if the situation calls for it.... and eventually go back to supporting and being there for each other.

 

And this is what Naruto and Sakura did. Sure, there was tension and a bit of heated arguments but very soon afterwards, Naruto ends up saving her life and Sakura ends up thanking him and appreciating his unwavering support to make her dream of a Team Seven reunion come true. Sakura did not hold Naruto's harsh words against him, its the opposite in fact. When he dozed off because of the effect of the poisoned kunai, she gives that special smile of hers while looking at Naruto.


Edited by ns.Believe.It, 01 January 2015 - 07:50 AM.

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:49 AM

The one thing that is still the same yet welcome to the new year is great posts. Keep it up.

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 07:54 AM

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 08:10 AM

Sigh
You see what you want to see
You read what you want to read
In the end, nobody is right or wrong

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Posted 01 January 2015 - 08:11 AM

I guess the hardest thing for me to wrap my head around is Naruto's "love" was merely a rivalry thing... It's what I constantly go back to thinking about with whats truly wrong about Naruto the Last (which unfortunately is forced to be canon). There just no way that makes any sense and I can't believe I know some people who actually believe it (and to an extent tumblr). Did these people forget Part 1 entirely? What exactly was there to proved in saving Sakura from Gaara, why focus on keeping her safe when you have the shot to one up your rival who couldn't really do s**t to the guy? And even then, risking your own life for that? No one is that crazy or stupid, even in a fantasy. This branches into my other concern of why the title character couldn't accomplish what he originally established. To first make Kakashi the place hold Hokage is an absolute disgrace when A. It seemed Naruto was destined for the 6th role, B. Kakashi never wanted the job initially, and C. Nothing indicated Tsunade stepping down so soon. I don't remember early Shippuden too well right now, but didn't Konohamaru say Naruto would be the 6th Hokage, I know I heard it in the anime...

 

Anyway still thinking more about it... why have Sakura flirt when Naruto isn't paying attention? Maybe I actually believe Kishimoto when he saying he was misleading his fanbase, I kinda find it hilarious he devoted more time to us then his so called "planned for years" final pairings. Then again we all know those last 2 chapters felt like they were drawn a week before the deadline, too many things just didn't add up. Which is another thing, more lying. The movie was suppose to answer all the questions yet all it did was pander to Hinata and revealed how Naruto was doped into loving her, all of 2 canon moments from the manga he saw from Hinata's POV. Didn't tell us about Kakashi, didn't state how people got to where they were in the end, didn't establish how Naruto became Hokage, peace apparently was established before Naruto became Hokage but still never explained... ugh I think you get the point.


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Posted 01 January 2015 - 08:20 AM

Sigh
You see what you want to see
You read what you want to read
In the end, nobody is right or wrong

That's why there is discussion, so we could reach common understanding.





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