Well, I was talking about the theme. Like NaruHina will damage Naruto's theme.
Oh, my bad then for misunderstanding
But yeah, no doubt about it that NaruHina happening will go against Naruto's theme. Naruto will have failed in winning over the heart of the girl he loves that always turned him down and was in love with the cool genius. And while love certainly isnt about deserving anything, in a literary sense, it will make the previous parallels of the idiot of the team failing to get the girl he loves seem kind of pointless and just a depressing "history will always repeat itself", directly contradicting the theme of the new generation surpassing the old.
NaruHina would prioritize the feelings of a minor secondary character over feelings of the main character that have been present in the story longer, and have been presented in an equally, if not more, positive light. It is essentially saying that the person who copies the nindo should adhere to it more fully than the person that it originated with.
So not only does it go against the themes of "newer generation surpassing the old" and "never give up", but it also goes against Kishi's desire to depict the struggles and complications of bonds - Naruto and Hinata's relationship is one of the most straightforward relationships in the manga. It couldn't get simpler than it is now, especially since Hinata seems completely oblivious to Naruto's feelings for Sakura.
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But before I go, let me say I agree with you about the Sasuke's hospital scene. The thing is that Naruto was going to butt in with the team, but Sakura was all in it, so he didn't want to disturb at all. Let me ask you this: why does Kishi keeps saying, "Please support Naruto the protagonist?" Because we are here to root for him. Again, SasuSaku happens, the theme will be destroyed, Naruto is sad, and the manga will lose supporters, including me. Once again, ask yourself this: Why keep Naruto loving Sakura? If the other pairings were to become canon, why have Naruto remain loving Sakura? He knows she loves Sasuke, yet he's not giving up. Why? Because Kishi wants us to support him to win his love. We love the main protagonist to get the girl and clearly, he's working on it. He even said Naruto is close. Why say that? All answers from me will come tomorrow. I need to sleep.
Exactly - Kishi clearly intends for the audience to be rooting for Naruto in all aspects of this manga. He is the one that we are supposed to support over everyone else.
YEAH!
As for the whole pairing debates, has there ever been sites that had actual fair debates among it's community. I sometimes hear people who've been on this pairing subject for AWHILE now, and I always wonder if anyone was a part of a fair debate. One where everyone don't just call each other an idiot and desperate, rather than, well, actually debating with real facts and evidence.
I personally haven't found a place yet open to all pairing fans where pairings are actually discussed where it doesn't eventually degenerate into ad hominem, double standards, or distortion of canon manga facts from one side at some point. Its really just the nature of the game, so to speak. Every fandom has their extremists, and they are unfortunately often the more outspoken.
Your best bet is to find individually some NH or SS fans (or even some anti B3) and talk/debate with them one on one about the pairings if you want a fair debate. There are certainly NH and SS fans that are quite pleasant, but again, they are simply not the
vocal majority.
I have a question. Do you guys believe when the fodder ninja gave Sakura a love letter and asked her out. She nicely rejected him by saying that she has someone. But the thing is that she either didn't say that she has someone on her mind or someone that she loves, meaning that she wants to be with this person, but it goes back to what she said, "I already have someone." The way she had spoken her speech was that she was addressing to the man that she's in a relationship with a person. But towards the end of their conversation, the fodder ninja said to her that her guy, which was shown as Sasuke in that one panel, must be a great guy. Sakura immediately started to have conflicted that's and possibility felt guilty about. I believe that Sakura was only just using the phrase that I have someone to reject the man nicely as an easy way out of situations like this with whatsoever not a single hint of Sasuke on her mind. What do you guys think because NH and SS don't believe this and they believe she was thinking about Sasuke the entire time lol.
That's certainly a possibility, but regardless, the love letter nin clearly speaks next about the person she loves being a great guy, and then she thinks of Sasuke. So its kind of irrefutable that Sakura still has at least some romantic feelings for Sasuke, and she wasn't thinking about Naruto there.
Thus, consciously at least, Sakura still doesn't see Naruto in a romantic light. Personally, I think Sakura has those feelings for Naruto already, and that she simply hasn't recognized them for what they are (perhaps even because she is comparing what she feels for Sasuke to what she feels for Naruto - Sasuke is the only person she's ever thought herself to be in love with after all). The 3rd data book, Yamato's comment to her and her reaction to it, all of the non-platonic gestures she's made for Naruto over the course of part 2, and the stark contrast in her lying abilities during the confession all support this theory.
Those kinds of relationships are also extremely common in Asian cinema as well. A lot of Asian dramas are, unfortunately, stuck in the shoujo manga trope.
That's very true - perhaps SS and NH's popularity is lent to rooting for the girls' feelings and attributing shoujo-type characteristics to the relationship???
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However, I honestly cannot think of a TV series or movie where the girl is a fangirl of the villain in the story.
Well, Sakura isn't a fangirl anymore, to be certain, and Sasuke was a good guy for the first half of the series.
All I can think of is Momo and Aizen from Bleach perhaps? Genkai and Toguro from YYH? Unless you are talking about the main female character, or the main character's love interest, having feelings for a villain in the series - in which I would agree I couldn't recall a similar scenario.
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