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[Toasty Warrior]

As far as Sakura calling Naruto a fool for loving her, it's kinda hard to say why said that, but I think it's her realizing how much he truly loves her and knowing Sakura, she can't understand why Naruto loves her so much after what she's done to him, so that's probably why she called him a fool for loving her.

[Gravenimage]

As far as Sakura calling Naruto a fool for loving her, it's kinda hard to say why said that, but I think it's her realizing how much he truly loves her and knowing Sakura, she can't understand why Naruto loves her so much after what she's done to him, so that's probably why she called him a fool for loving her.

Not quite Sakura calling Naruto a fool for loving her is because she said it in the tsundere way as in "how can he still love me after everything I have done to him way".

She didn't meant it as an insult it was the other way around affectionate in the tsundere way. Another example of this is Tsunade with Jiraiya before he left to find Pain he told her that he doubted she will cry for him as much for as she did with Dan and she called him "a******". Another example when Jiraiya died and Tsunade was walking thinking about the first time she met him when they were twelve she thought to herself crying and called him "idiot".

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 June 2010 - 12:15 AM.

[Insurrection]

As far as Sakura calling Naruto a fool for loving her, it's kinda hard to say why said that, but I think it's her realizing how much he truly loves her and knowing Sakura, she can't understand why Naruto loves her so much after what she's done to him, so that's probably why she called him a fool for loving her.

Not quite Sakura calling Naruto a fool for loving her is because she said it in the tsundere way as in "how can he still love me after everything I have done to him way".

She didn't meant it as an insult it was the other way around affectionate in the tsundere way. Another example of this is Tsunade with Jiraiya before he left to find Pain he told her that he doubted she will cry for him as much for as she did with Dan and she called him "a******". Another example when Jiraiya died and Tsunade was walking thinking about the first time she met him when they were twelve she thought to herself crying and called him "idiot".

Ah good ol' Self esteem issues. That's what it seems to be, it's a way of calling them fools or idiots when they think of themselves as such.

Edited by Insurrection, 14 June 2010 - 12:19 AM.

[ciardha]

Another example when Jiraiya died and Tsunade was walking thinking about the first time she met him when they were twelve she thought to herself crying and called him "idiot".

Six years old but yeah. (heh, Jiraiya was very precocious in his interest in girls) The future Sanin graduated the Academy at 6 years old. But at that time Academy training may have been much more minimal, as it appears they were Genin for a number of years, in fact Hiruzen doesn't appear to have administered the bell test until they were around 12 years old- old enough that Jiraiya calls Tsunade "flat-chested" insultingly (most girls don't start developing until 11-12) plus they look noticeably older and somewhat taller than when they met. At that time the Chunnin exam didn't exist (it was created after the third ninja war) so perhaps the origins of the bell test was to see if Genin were ready to become Chunnin.

[ShippudenGirl]

Ah good ol' Self esteem issues. That's what it seems to be, it's a way of calling them fools or idiots when they think of themselves as such.

You think Sakura has self-esteem issues? Hm, i'm not exactly sure about that - no you might be right...

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

The self-esteem issues/confidence issue on Sakura, started on Yamato's unfinished dialog on Sakura's feelings, I think back to the KB4

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 14 June 2010 - 03:18 AM.

[Insurrection]

Nah, I think it started when they first talked after the First Sasuke Retrieval Arc, then it slowly built up with the KB4 revealing it.

Edited by Insurrection, 14 June 2010 - 04:25 AM.

[ahmed]

i have some questions about kishi jump fest 2010 interview :

1-when kishi made this interview ,what was th last chapter released?

2-ther alot of members that said that kishi said "i was writting a honest and determined girl "and i havenot founds any words like this in the interview. so when he said these words?

3-in the interview it is said that "Sakura's acting a little haughty towards Naruto"in what chapter are they talking about?

4-kishi said"Naruto's close, but Sakura loves Sasuke as we should expect from that speech. She's being haughty with her using not so kind words against Naruto right afterwards...didn't she? I can't recall.".
what that mean by (that speech) and where that ( using not so kind words against Naruto )

5-why kishi said that sakura is detested and why siad that hinata is more heroine


sorry because i asking alot of questions ?
i wish no one is annoying from me
any one could answer my questions ,thanks to him.and i want determined reply

Edited by ahmed, 14 June 2010 - 06:52 PM.

[ahmed]

i have a point of view and i want to preview here and to ask of i am wrong in any thing:

that sakura really fall in love with naruto even before sai tell her taht naruto love her but she was subconscious (and it could be prove by the most recent reaction between her and naruto before sai telling her that naruto love her:after naruto kill the last body of pain and katsoyo tell them that ,sakura first ask her about naruto is good or no and in the first page in chapter 442 after sakura know that hinata loves naruto she felt some of jealousy ,if you not noticed that back to cahpter 442 and look to her face in the first page,and when naruto after killing pain the first thing thing she made that she hug him a crazy hug and showing all the village she is very worry about him ,she care about him and she lost him and i think she was subconscious when she hug him and she hug him because she neeed to hold him becuase she was very anxious about him)and after sai told her that naruto love her she reliazed and konw that she also was fall in love with him before and sai wake up her feelings for naruto

Edited by ahmed, 14 June 2010 - 08:39 PM.

[ShippudenGirl]

The interview? A big fat lie... most i've seen have been majorily altered by pairing fandoms; Kishimoto never said that Sakura loved Sasuke, I mean that should be very obvious - I believe I was told that Sakura's voice actress was the one that thought Sakura loved Sasuke.
Kishimoto also never said Hinata was a bigger heroine then Sakura, he actually said something like he doesn't understand why everyone likes her so much and said he's going to make Sakura more of a Heroine.

Sai did help Sakura open up more to her feelings but that doesn't mean he made her fall in love with him, Sakura just has very confused feelings - of course i'm sure there more definite now that Sasuke tried to hit her with Chidori then stab her while choking her - how the heck can you love a person who constantly put you down then tried to murder you? =o

Also, I don't think you are suppose to double-post =P there's an edit button!

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 14 June 2010 - 09:05 PM.

[ahmed]

The interview? A big fat lie... most i've seen have been majorily altered by pairing fandoms; Kishimoto never said that Sakura loved Sasuke, I mean that should be very obvious - I believe I was told that Sakura's voice actress was the one that thought Sakura loved Sasuke.
Kishimoto also never said Hinata was a bigger heroine then Sakura, he actually said something like he doesn't understand why everyone likes her so much and said he's going to make Sakura more of a Heroine.

Sai did help Sakura open up more to her feelings but that doesn't mean he made her fall in love with him, Sakura just has very confused feelings - of course i'm sure there more definite now that Sasuke tried to hit her with Chidori then stab her while choking her - how the heck can you love a person who constantly put you down then tried to murder you? =o

Also, I don't think you are suppose to double-post =P there's an edit button!

you say that kishimato never said that sakura love sasuke but i see it in the interview and i copy it exatly

(周りからヒロインらしくないとかヒナタのほうがヒロインだとか言われている
がやはりサクラは自分の中でヒロインなんで、これからヒロインっぽい所見せる」
Kishimoto: "Honestly, from the standpoint of showing a female-like disposition, she hasn't been much of a heroine. You could even say that Hinata's more of a heroine than her. But since, as we know, Sakura is a heroine deep inside, she'll show that side of hers from now on."
ナルトは近いが、サクラやはりサスケが好き的な発言。後あんまりナルト対していい
言葉は使わなかったような驕っている…だっけ思い出せない。
Naruto's close, but Sakura loves Sasuke as we should expect from that speech. She's being haughty with her using not so kind words against Naruto right afterwards...didn't she? I can't recall.)

so he said that

about 2 post : LOL ............ i always edit the post but this time i forget the edit button

Edited by ahmed, 14 June 2010 - 09:16 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Don't rely on the interview because it has been mistranslated by the fandom from both pairings. Most of the comments like saying that Sakura loves Sasuke were basically said by Chie Nakamura (the actress who does Sakura's voice she's a Sasu/Saku shipper) but Kishi never mentioned the word love from Sakura to Sasuke he did said that Naruto is close to Sakura.

Most of the questions were asked from the voice cast of Shippuden to Kishi in which he also tells them about all the angry N/H fan mail he got bashing Sakura which got him dissapointed and annoyed (I know I would if the fans keep flaming my heroine and they keep praising the secondary character who is not important to the main story). In addition Kishi admitted that when he draw Sakura hugging Naruto (450) he said that the intention he made the hug was romantic and his heart skipped a beat. Let me remind you that on Sakura's profile page from the third data book it clearly says she USED to have a crush on Sasuke (so why would Kishi even bother saying that she still loves Sasuke it doesn't make any sense unless he didn't said it at all?).

The point is interviews are not reliable and it doesn't proof to be solid evidence (the data books are more reliable). The manga is the only proof we need which shows the real development of N/S Kishi only shows the truth in his manga. Let's not forget like all mangaka they will NEVER say spoilers in interviews just a small idea of the events to come without giving specific details.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 June 2010 - 09:23 PM.

[Insurrection]

Ah the infamous Haughty word discussion we had 5 weeks ago. That was fun, NOT! Chie's going to have to have character issues down the road.

Edited by Insurrection, 14 June 2010 - 09:27 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Ah the infamous Haughty word discussion we had 5 weeks ago. That was fun, NOT! Chie's going to have to have character issues down the road.

Chie Nakamura did admitted that she doesn't like Sakura (obviously because she's well aware that she's in love with Naruto and she will end up with him, what would you expect from a S/S shipper? )

[ShippudenGirl]

Chie Nakamura did admitted that she doesn't like Sakura (obviously because she's well aware that she's in love with Naruto and she will end up with him, what would you expect from a S/S shipper? )

Put isn't that implying all SS shippers hate Sakura? - No I don't really think they mean to hate her.

[Miss Soupy]

Don't rely on the interview because it has been mistranslated by the fandom from both pairings. Most of the comments like saying that Sakura loves Sasuke were basically said by Chie Nakamura (the actress who does Sakura's voice she's a Sasu/Saku shipper) but Kishi never mentioned the word love from Sakura to Sasuke he did said that Naruto is close to Sakura.

Kishi said 'Naruto is close, but still Sakura...for Sasuke'. This hints that she has lingering feelings for him, not that she is completely over him, but that Naruto is also close to her heart.

Most of the questions were asked from the voice cast of Shippuden to Kishi in which he also tells them about all the angry N/H fan mail he got bashing Sakura which got him dissapointed and annoyed (I know I would if the fans keep flaming my heroine and they keep praising the secondary character who is not important to the main story).

He said that he always heard people say 'Hinata, Hinata', and wondered if it was just their voices that were so loud. He then said that Sakura was the heroine and he would try to write her that way more in the future.

In addition Kishi admitted that when he draw Sakura hugging Naruto (450) he said that the intention he made the hug was romantic and his heart skipped a beat. Let me remind you that on Sakura's profile page from the third data book it clearly says she USED to have a crush on Sasuke (so why would Kishi even bother saying that she still loves Sasuke it doesn't make any sense unless he didn't said it at all?).

Actually, I believe this was a comment from one of the VA's, that their heart skipped, not Kishimoto. Really, does that even sound like something he would say?

Also...databooks... :/

The point is interviews are not reliable and it doesn't proof to be solid evidence (the data books are more reliable). The manga is the only proof we need which shows the real development of N/S Kishi only shows the truth in his manga. Let's not forget like all mangaka they will NEVER say spoilers in interviews just a small idea of the events to come without giving specific details.

Now this I agree with. By now the interview has been so skewed by all fandoms that there is absolutely no truth to it. Manga is all the evidence we need. And yeah, a mangaka would never spoil their story in an interview. They go to great lengths to keep their plot lines a secret. The interview was hazy at best.

[ahmed]

Don't rely on the interview because it has been mistranslated by the fandom from both pairings. Most of the comments like saying that Sakura loves Sasuke were basically said by Chie Nakamura (the actress who does Sakura's voice she's a Sasu/Saku shipper) but Kishi never mentioned the word love from Sakura to Sasuke he did said that Naruto is close to Sakura.

LOL
mistrnslated again ?
you said it before in chapter 474 that was mistranslated

i want to know on what you count on to say mistranslated or not mistranslated

i even after that mistranlsted now i couldnot believe data book or even the chapters
after that why you don't say that every thing may be mistranslated

could you show obviously why you say mistranslated in somthing and otherthings no?

Edited by ahmed, 14 June 2010 - 10:29 PM.

[Gravenimage]

LOL
mistrnslated again ?
you said it before in chapter 474 that was mistranslated

i want to know on what you count on to say mistranslated or not mistranslated

i even after that mistranlsted now i couldnot believe data book or even the chapters
after that why you don't say that every thing may be mistranslated

could you show obviously why you say mistranslated in somthing and otherthings no?

I don't trust 474 until the english volume arrives with the chapter officially translated (since the translators from SJ in America are paid to translate the chapters as accurate as the raw version).

I don't trust the interview any N/H and S/S fans probably copy and paste it or took out words. It has been messed up by the fandom and it's not to be trusted so there's no need to rely on it. Like I said interviews are not reliable source for solid evidence on pairings.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 June 2010 - 10:37 PM.

[Toasty Warrior]

You know I don't trust a lot of fan translations either as they know what to say to really piss off other fans, I just wish we could all get along, but that's just wishful thinking now.

[ahmed]

I don't trust 474 until the english volume arrives with the chapter officially translated (since the translators from SJ in America are paid to translate the chapters as accurate as the raw version).

I don't trust the interview any N/H and S/S fans probably copy and paste it or took out words. It has been messed up by the fandom and it's not to be trusted so there's no need to rely on it. Like I said interviews are not reliable source for solid evidence on pairings.

ok i understand you now

and about data books ?i know it is reliable source for solid evidence like on every thing the manga
but is there might to be mistranslated too?why?

Edited by ahmed, 14 June 2010 - 11:22 PM.