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[narusaku256]

Someone else wishes that Sasuke should be calling Kakashi as 'Kakashi sensei' and not just 'Kakashi'? Where's all of his respect gone! I mean sure, he can go ahead and remain an kitten, but some respect towards his teacher former or not will do good, atleast.

[Gojira]

Sasuke respecting anyone but himself is hilarious.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

 

 

My heart hurts just staring at it.

 

The seal markings don't help either.

 

ive always wanted to say this nh and ss fans can finally *know pain* LOL 

 

No, not yet.

 

I've gone to the point that I don't think Sasuke doesn't care about Sakura and Kakashi. If he didn't care he would ignore them. But how he goes out of his way to put them down makes me think he really hates them. If it were Konohamaru or Kiba asking for information, he would have just ignored them.

 

Now, Sakura and Kakashi needs to ask information through Naruto. Sigh....what a bother. 

 

In the dream, he didn't want to be like them. But in reality, he'll probably be just like them.

Shikamaru's kid: Dad, why did you marry such a scary mom?

Shikamaru: .......Even that mother of yours smiles kindly sometimes. 

It would be awesome if the above scene would appear in the end of the manga. Maybe not though. 

 

Who knows with Sasuke?  You never truly know what's in his head.  Naruto is truly the only one who he gives attention to, though that's for his twisted desire to kill him later to erase his past.  He ignores Sakura for the most part during the war, and when he finally talks to her, he demoralizes her. Also, the minute he deems Kakashi to not be of help now, Sasuke views him as just another nuisance, and tells him not to talk.  I don't think he hates them, rather to him, the "useless" should remain quiet, and let those with power handle everything. Essentially, he's telling them to know their "place".  Arrogant of him, but in line with his character.

 

I can definitely see that happening with Shikamaru.

 

I just hope all Sasuke's rudeness and disrespectful behavior comes back to bite him in the @ss.

 

If Madara is any depiction of how once he made the statement that women are weak, and now his comeuppance is being handed by a women, anything is possible.

 

I'm a little sad when I think about Kishi, because I think he's affected by the hate Sakura's getting, and I'm almost sure he did this chapter like that to try to have readers to empathise with Sakura, but when I look around the web, very little fans acknowledging the fact that Sasuke was really harsh and that Sakura doesn't deserve that.

On the contrary, I can read things like " Sakura deserved it " , or " thank you Sasuke you shut the fodder kunoichi " or anything else.. it's just harsher and harsher every time.

At Kishi's place, I would be sad.

 

Well, this is from English-speaking fans overseas though.  Who knows how the Japanese fandom acts, though I hear they are more mature? 

[Nate River]

I wish Sakura had spoken up for herself. I suppose she feels down about it because it's a combination of it being Sasuke (who is the subject of many confused feelings on many levels romantic and otherwise), her being hard on herself/esteem, and the fact that what he's saying isn't wrong he's just said it in a terrible way--really dismissive, and as someone mentioned awhile back uncalled for because he's going to have to tell Naruto anyways. Whether or not she could be of use, it isn't useless answering her. What I don't like about it, is that it truly undermines Team 7 and the previous attempts at 'we'll use teamwork!'. The way Naruto defends Kakashi and Sakura with a comedic expression also demonstrates, at least to me, how sad and empty those words are. At least when he initially reacted to Sakura like that, he had a more sincere expression, but note that he didn't deny what Sasuke said. 
 
I do believe that Sakura will prove Sasuke wrong--she has to, and I'm hoping that she finally does defend herself. Sakura doesn't have a problem speaking out against Sasuke... when it's about Naruto. I think that Sakura is still insecure about her abilities, because (quite unfairly, as usual) there is an extreme gap between herself and her teammates no matter how many times she gets her moment of determination, where she vows to show them her back or stand beside them. It must be tiring, always feeling like a burden when Sakura is so capable in her own right, and she has no advantages beyond what is in the normal range of 'potential'. Sasuke may be in the superior position, but he was born great--so was Naruto. Even Kakashi had more of a start than Sakura, and her's been 'reduced' to the same position (although, without the sharingan I think Sakura is more of an asset than he is).
 
So, the scene is less of an issue on Sakura because I do believe it's set up for her growth. I really doubt that will be just left like that; Sakura has to have some way of proving Sasuke wrong and gaining that confidence, how I don't know but I'm pretty positive it's happening. What bothers me about this scene is Sasuke. It has to be said, compared to how he treated Karin, he is far more rude and dismissive about Team 7 than he was with Team Taka. Maybe it's my distaste for the team which colours my perception, but if Team 7 is supposed to be so thematically important, and if we're supposed to take it seriously, the fact that Sasuke has distanced himself so much that I swear even Juugo was treated with more empathy than our main female lead, just feels really off. He doesn't have to be romantically interested in her at all, I don't want him to be, but I'd prefer if he at least showed he cared on some level, at least enough to show her some respect instead of this disdain. 
 
I think this has written me off Sasuke's character totally. He should just go back to his team and fade from the manga after this little fight where he's needed--seriously. Sakura is far better a character to this privileged little git and his merry band of outcasts, and I wish Naruto could recognize that. Maybe if he had been consistently like this, with everyone, since his downfall it'd be more palatable since he's descended so deep into his 'darkness', but his selective favour of secondary characters just ruins that whole excuse.

I agree it's probably a set-up and that he can't just leave her int he position he has. It'd be such a set back from where he has taken her character. To me, it would render her character progress hallow because when push came to shove, she ended up backing down.

So, I can't see her being left like this. Aside from the development, I think it's also meant to further push the crumbling of her image for Sasuke. While not a perfect analogy, it's like the kid having the perfect image of their hero torn down. She's either held onto her previous image of him or the idea that that person still exists within him and he's killing that off. I think that's a part of her reaction and also the fact, as you say, he's not wrong.

I hold less confidence in that development thought. The last two power-ups were cheap compared to what her compatriots got. And it's sucks too, because she is strong than almost all the ninja, but since the only comparison point that matters is Naruto and Sasuke she comes off weaker than she is. But the two times she used the seal were duds in terms of development. Her dedication to Naruto's life was more meaningful than this, so part of me is under the belief that she'll show Sasuke wrong...in a similar way to her last two power ups. She'll do something that will show him wrong, but it'll be against mooks or she'll fade away to let the boys work, so Kishimoto can say, "yeah, I checked that box" and move on. As I've sad before, I think I'm far less impressed with her last two power-ups because of that.

As for Sasuke himself, I don't hate him. There are some things I like and I see all sorts of uncapitalized potential, so i find something interest. And that is often a big determining factor in my like or dislike of a character. But I do think his handling is probably worse than almost anyone other character not named Karin. Might be a tie with Hinata. It's the having his cake and eating it too with the whole darkness bit and the baffling inclusion of Team Not Seven. Well, I'd also add that it seems no not what he does not one ever lets go anything they feel with him.

Dood almost started a war and having him fight over Ino as her desire....is depressing. It's the same treatment Obito gets. bullsh** everywhere in what he says and does and no calls him on it in ways that really count. It's skimming the surface.

Speaking of that, I'm hoping Naruto's objection to dream goes beyond the low hanging fruit of it's a lie. Yes, that's true. But it's actually much worse than that and the initial retort is going to obvious. Naruto tends to be a let down in confronting these arguments, so I'm not holding out tons of hope.

But a man can dream....while sleeping in a cocoon attached to a tree.

[Otaru]

Well, this is from English-speaking fans overseas though.  Who knows how the Japanese fandom acts, though I hear they are more mature? 

 

If I remember well, there is bashing on Kakashi and Sakura in Japan too.

[Gojira]

Hopefully Sakura has a lot more positive reception in Japan.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Funny, I noticed that in mangapanda, they chose two fanarts that pretty much described their "highlights". Naruto's anger that it's all a lie and Gaara/Naruto bonds. Good thing I usually skip those before they tell me, "Yeah, this chapter has something about them." I mean it's no coincidence when they used NS for 631 and 635.

[MoonDrop04]

So who's ready to see a few anime deaths in naruto shippuden today?? Especially one in particular....... :( lol

[Otaru]

As much as I still believe that Sasuke will one day be kind with his former comrades, I don't have the feels for my sig / teamwork anymore.

 

This time, nothing excuses him IMO.

When he tried to kill Sakura, he was completely losing himself, so in a way, it were forgivable/understandable.

This time, it's utterly harsh what he said to her and Kakashi.

 

Also, some people said he spoke the truth, I don't agree at all. Sakura could come up with a good plan, even if she's not as powerful as Naruto and Sasuke right now.

 

I'm confident for the future chapters, because Kishi obviously done it like that to prove otherwise later.

Edited by Otaru, 29 May 2014 - 08:24 AM.

[咲耶姫]

So who's ready to see a few anime deaths in naruto shippuden today?? Especially one in particular....... :( lol

There is no episode this week. 615 will be animated next week. 

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Does this mean Obito will be free now?  To possess Madara, Black Zetsu will have to leave Obito, and Obito could regain control.  Well, Madara could have put him in a deep genjutsu, while switching eyes, and that's why Black Zetsu said he was "dead".  Anyway, if that's the case, a bit of work will be needed to bring him back.  What are everyone's opinion's regarding what will happen to Obito from now on?

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 29 May 2014 - 08:39 AM.

[Gojira]

There is no episode this week. 615 will be animated next week.

[六道仙人]

I admit that the others are right, but there is a prove that Sasuke is talking, he's the only one of Team 7 who's calling Kakashi "Kakashi" and not "Kakashi sensei" anymore, there is no Kakashi sensei, just Kakashi, so it's Sasuke for sure in the expanation panel. 

 

Yes you said it, I had even underlined the sentence. 

 

I don't see any difference in the first post and you second one. You say they must work hard for their dreams to come true otherwise they would live in fals happiness because they wouls get their dreams without efforts. And that's not my opinion. even if they work hard, thoses dreams that we've seen won't come true. And the huge lie is about living in an illusion, this happiness would only be an illusion. But agree to disagree. 

 

I didn't notice that "kakashi" with no suffix. Yeah, you're right...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Does this mean Obito will be free now?  To possess Madara, Black Zetsu will have to leave Obito, and Obito could regain control.  Well, Madara could have put him in a deep genjutsu, while switching eyes, and that's why Black Zetsu said he was "dead".  Anyway, if that's the case, a bit of work will be needed to bring him back.  What are everyone's opinion's regarding what will happen to Obito from now on?

This is an interesting point. Didn't Obito need Zetsu to live? If so, he's going to die very soon. If not, this makes me wonder what's the plan for him in here. We'll see soon, though I can imagine Kakashi or Naruto wanting to take the body away from the enemy and see the condition. I mean he can be useful right now if awake and able to go.

[MoonDrop04]

There is no episode this week. 615 will be animated next week. 

Ooooooooooooh ok my bad lol XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ooooooooooooh ok my bad lol XD

Maybe Kishi thought there was, so he made this chapter. I kid.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

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Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 29 May 2014 - 11:08 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

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I always like these. Good work.

[MoonDrop04]

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I can't stop laughing!!!! Lol Great job!!!!

[harry4e]

I want to know your opinions: Does Hinata know that Naruto is in love with Sakura or she has no idea? What do you guys think?

 

I think everyone in Konoha knows  how he feels for Sakura, probably half of Suna too. If Hinata doesn't know then she's obviously living in denial, and needs to brush up on her stalking skills...she's been a professional Naruto Stalker for years, so she must have witnessed him asking Sakura out on a date multiple times.

 

God can you guys believe what some people on youtube are saying.

 

They are saying Sasuke is right in what he is telling Sakura and Kakashi.

 

Well there is some truth in the matter, as it stands we don't really know what they can do to help, Doesn't mean what Sasuke said was right, but there is some truth in his words...ofcourse their minds could be useful Sakura has battle knowledge of fighting strong Genjutsu's and Sakura must have read up on them as well.

 

Loved everyone's dream LOL.  Ino and Shino made me laugh, and OMG I feel sorry for Garaa. And Hinata was pathetic as always. Its called dream world for a reason, which means it will never happen lol.

 

I wonder what's Sai's dream?

 

It's obvious isn't it? He'd be with his brother happy, drawing his family, His family being his brother and Team Seven without Sasuke, and Naruto and Sakura being happy together, he is the biggest

NaruSaku shipper in the Manga afterall.

 

 

Someone else wishes that Sasuke should be calling Kakashi as 'Kakashi sensei' and not just 'Kakashi'? Where's all of his respect gone! I mean sure, he can go ahead and remain an a**hole, but some respect towards his teacher former or not will do good, atleast.

 

The guy has no respect for anyone, I don't think he ever called Orichimaru sensie either, it would not really fit his personality, it would be like Sakura calling Naruto, Naruto-kun, it's just too wierd.

 

Anyone else find it funny that in Lee's dream, even with him gaining Sakura's attention he still sees her as calling Lee-San, not Lee-Kun? Even in his dream world he knows Sakura will never see him as anything more than a friend.