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#421 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:35 PM

That's my girl right there. Don't let Naruto and Sasuke show you up. XDD

I am going to agree with Serenity Namikaze and Slextrem on this one. I think people are overreacting.

Actually, I could argue that Sakura debunked the SS scene because Naruto got jealous and Sakura says "If you two don't stop fighting each other, I'll be Hokage before any of you" in a joking manner. That's how I forsee it. If you see it like that, then yeah the SS scene is even debunked by Sakura herself.

Plus, again, we have to remember that Sasuke doesn't love Sakura. Even if Sakura still has feelings, Sasuke doesn't. So...yeah. I think Sakuera was just happy that Sasuke is actually fighting with them than against them and Team 7 is reunited.

No, see the "SS moment" is not bothering me. What is actually bothering me more is the fact how quickly people accept Sasuke being "good" again....I don't know, that fact is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I wouldn't say it was a bad chapter, but I wanted something more from Sasuke than just accept being good again and everyone just forgiving and forgetting. Although this might just be me as we can see Shikamaru saying "I don't wanna acknowledge him."

I can't get the Psycho Sasuke out of my head. He stabbed karin, he attempted to stab Sakura, but now...it is very disappointing. I just hate Sasuke's story. I hate his character, I hate his story arcs, and I hate how undecided he is. I liked it easier when he wanted to destroy the village and get revenge. Now I don't even know what is going to happen.

I see a very predictable scene where Sasuke says "I didn't fight with you to be a team again...I want to shape the world in my own image and have them respect the name of Uchiha" and then everyone looking surprised like this was something new with only Shikamaru saying "I knew this was too good to be true."

I don't know. I like Sakura getting the power-up and the unique way to give it to her with her charging it for three years which explains who it has taken so long to gain it. (I believe it is permanent. I believe Tsunade had to do the same thing to gain hers and once you get it it is permanent)
 

I think the "Sasuke doesnt have feelings for Sakura" as an invalid argument, we doesnt know what Sasuke feels, he changes his mind quickly, he's not a character who has stuff stated, or feelings stated, it does change with the flow of the story, remember that he said he hates the village and now doenst hate it anymore and wants to be hokage, SS it's up to Sakura, doesnt matter if Sasuke likes her or not, it's Sakura, if Sakura still loves Sasuke doesnt matter if Naruto is a better choice or not, it wont happen, Sakura can easily be single and also Naruto, we doesnt know.
Her development is only to stand as an equal before Naruto and Sasuke?, because if it's like that then i foresee an open ending easily here.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

I'd like to comment once more on the quality of the art this time. Kishi was so concentrated on the quality of art that he totally forgot how Kiba is supposed to look.
MAN, JUST HOW CAN YOU FORGET THOSE CLAW MARKS???  :argh:

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:38 PM

I'd like to comment once more on the quality of the art this time. Kishi was so concentrated on the quality of art that he totally forgot how Kiba is supposed to look.
MAN, JUST HOW CAN YOU FORGET THOSE CLAW MARKS???  :argh:

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he doesn't give a kitten about the poor Kiba :lmao:


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

 

he doesn't give a kitten about the poor Kiba :lmao:

Can i ask you something about translation i know it's not relevant but when she's talking about them, she says "Sasuke-kun" first like "Sasuke-kun and Naruto" and later "Sasuke-kun and Naruto" i know it's irrelevat but it's like that?


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:42 PM

he doesn't give a kitten about the poor Kiba :lmao:

 

I was somewhat amused when I first posted this pic and no one even noticed... everyone was too busy discussing Sakura's blush. Can't see the wood for the trees, eh?



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

Can i ask you something about translation i know it's not relevant but when she's talking about them, she says "Sasuke-kun" first like "Sasuke-kun and Naruto" and later "Sasuke-kun and Naruto" i know it's irrelevat but it's like that?

 

I don't know since ohana's script hasn't stated that... But.... Is that really important for you? O_o" It's really important if she mentions first the sasuke's name and then that's naruto? :wot:


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

 

I don't know since ohana's script hasn't stated that... But.... is it irrivelant? O_o" It's really important if she mentions first the sasuke's name and then that's naruto? :wot:

??

I'm mostly confused about mangareader's and mangastream translations.
Mangareader's gives the impression that her thoughts are focused on Sasuke while Naruto is 2nd place, Mangastream put them as an equal.

Ends up her telling Naruto that they will do it together, while Mangareader's i could not even understand her last sentence.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:43 PM

 

he doesn't give a kitten about the poor Kiba :lmao:

LMAO! Poor Kiba! 

 

I haven't been to sleep yet, and it's 8:41 am. -_- I'm not even sleepy. Naruto has screwed up my night dammit!  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

I wonder what is Sasuke's goal ? Who will he betray and backstab next ? Of course he will be forgiven anyway no matter how many times he tries to kill the people around him.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:45 PM

I'm not worried about the SS 'moment" at all. (Let's not mae a mountain out of an anthill here.)  I  like how Kishi may start pushing KibaHina. I am happy to see Sakura kicking ass! THIS is what we've been needing to see since the Sasori fight. THIS is who we should have been seeing all throughout Shippuden.

 

 

 

Shikamaru really is the smartest guy in the series, he already knows something is up with Sasuke. It's almost as if he's Kishi's insert character. (Though Kakashi plays that role a lot too)


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:46 PM

I think the "Sasuke doesnt have feelings for Sakura" as an invalid argument, we doesnt know what Sasuke feels, he changes his mind quickly, he's not a character who has stuff stated, or feelings stated, it does change with the flow of the story, remember that he said he hates the village and now doenst hate it anymore and wants to be hokage, SS it's up to Sakura, doesnt matter if Sasuke likes her or not, it's Sakura, if Sakura still loves Sasuke doesnt matter if Naruto is a better choice or not, it wont happen, Sakura can easily be single and also Naruto, we doesnt know.
Her development is only to stand as an equal before Naruto and Sasuke?, because if it's like that then i foresee an open ending easily here.

I don't think it is invalid the same as Naruto doesn't have feelings for Hinata. How can it be an invalid argument? Sasuke has shown no interest in Sakura at all even before he became "evil." And for all of a sudden for him to be in love with her is just outrageous. What about Karin? She has been with him longer and you don;t think maybe he could have developed feelings for her?

See this is what I am talking about. You can't argue with people like this because no matter what you say they always have a negative view about it and debunk your argument because they "don't want to accept it."

It's the same principle with NH in that Naruto has not developed feelings for Hinata. If they haven't developed feelings by now, it is a little late. If they did, it would be really unbelievable and truly an asspull.

Also, the fact that he tried to stab Sakura and "doesn't care what anyone thinks" of him is also a huge hint.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

This scene/event of Sakura getting the Yin seal on her forehead--which I'm guessing is why Kishi made it her signature--is really setting up a NS scene as well as an awesome character development for her!

 

just imagine:

 

Sakura: *generates more chakra from forehead*
Sakura: *sends a million enemies to oblivion*

Sakura: SHANNARO! don't ever underestimate me again. It would literally be the last thing you ever do!!

 

Naruto: *looks at Sakura with admiration*

Naruto: ... *smiles at her in warmth* *gazes as she's distracted by the opponents*

Naruto: *looks back at his share of opponents with determination*

Naruto: ... You sure have a large and charming forehead.

 

Sakura: !! *freezes momentarily*

 

Naruto: Makes me want to kiss it... *charges head first at enemies leaving Sakura paralyzed*

 

Sakura: ... *stares at Naruto in shock* *watches him fight while everything around her seems to dim*

Sakura: ...wha-what did he... *flashbacks to bench scene* *puts two and two together*

Sakura: *everything goes blank*  *confused* *head feels like drowning with amount of blood her fast beating heart is pumping*

Sakura: *abruptly snaps head back to where Sasuke fights*

Sakura: ...Sasuke-ku--​*notices for the first time the darkness in his eyes he had then and now, and the contrast they had during that scene... where it was bright, full of life and closely similar too...*

Sakura: *slowly looks back at Naruto* .... Naruto... you... after all this time...?

 

and then she slowly realizes she's fallen in love with the person she thought Sasuke was only to find out it was Naruto all this time. wakes up and realizes she never really loved sasuke, it was all based on an illusion her childish self mistook for reality. (kinda like a typical heart-warming High school story where the girl falls in love with a guy because of say.. his poems when they weren't really written by him, and when found out she realizes it wasn't the impostor she fell for, it was the poet himself. blah blah blah kinda like that, you get the point) and BAM! NaruSaku officially canon  :nslove:    :party:​ 

 

But may I add, just for fun....  :hehehe:

 

Sakura: *heads back to battle and pulverizes a hundred Juubis to a billion pieces*

 

Minato: ....! *smiles with approval*

 

Naruto: *lands right in next to Minato* How's it going on your end? *pants*

 

Minato: Nothing the Yellow Flash can't take. *takes out ten more Juubis at once*

Minato: *nods towards Sakura* She's so much like your mother, isn't she...? strong too.

 

Naruto: ...? *looks at a specific hazard area where a small pink blur pops every now and then*

Naruto: *smiles with pride* *continues fighting Juubis*

Naruto: Yeah.... she is.

 

Minato: Well! i was awarded with two new information today. *flashes behind another two Juubis and cuts them in half* *flashes back to Naruto*

 

Naruto: ?? *kicks another Juubi*

 

Minato: One, is that I'm impressed with your mother's strong influence that can still be reached even after she's left this world. *chuckles* Guess you listened to her after all huh, Naruto?

 

Naruto: ...WHA-uh-er-uhm... *blushes* *Juubi takes a swing at Naruto*

Naruto: *dodges and takes offense* *focus is back*

 

Minato: *takes amusement at Naruto's stutters* and two...

 

Naruto: ....

 

Minato: *looks at Naruto* *smiles* is that you inherited my dreams, my will, my strength.... and my taste in women *winks*

 

Fandom: *EXPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODES!!*

 

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

quick question doesn't Tsunade need to release her technique (with the diamond becoming a drawing on her body) to use that kind of strength?

 

I wonder if Sakura is able to do that as well


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

LMAO! Poor Kiba! 

 

I haven't been to sleep yet, and it's 8:41 am. -_- I'm not even sleepy. Naruto has screwed up my night dammit!  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

I wonder if people will even notice if someone from the rookies (Shikamaru, for example) decides to grow a pair of boobs, lol.  :hehehe:

 

You should get some sleep! OFF TO BED, YOUNG MAN!  :fist:



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:48 PM

I don't think it is invalid the same as Naruto doesn't have feelings for Hinata. How can it be an invalid argument? Sasuke has shown no interest in Sakura at all even before he became "evil." And for all of a sudden for him to be in love with her is just outrageous. What about Karin? She has been with him longer and you don;t think maybe he could have developed feelings for her?

See this is what I am talking about. You can't argue with people like this because no matter what you say they always have a negative view about it and debunk your argument because they "don't want to accept it."

It's the same principle with NH in that Naruto has not developed feelings for Hinata. If they haven't developed feelings by now, it is a little late. If they did, it would be really unbelievable and truly an asspull.

The fact is that Naruto has stated many times, his feelings for Sakura are pre-determined, it's not gonna change and the jokes and the latest chapters tells u this, the parallels also, like Naruto loving Sakura is destiny and it's not gonna change, with Sasuke we doenst have a single clue how his character works, the things he does, what he feels are not pre-determined like Naruto's, his changed his mind, his hatred erased, he changed his plans several times.

Sasuke's character is unstable, and asspull driven.
All i said is it's up to Sakura.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:49 PM

??

I'm mostly confused about mangareader's and mangastream translations.
Mangareader's gives the impression that her thoughts are focused on Sasuke while Naruto is 2nd place, Mangastream put them as an equal.

Ends up her telling Naruto that they will do it together, while Mangareader's i could not even understand her last sentence.

 

of course the second you said, Sakura put them as an equal. There's absolutely any pairing hints in her words.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:50 PM

Guess its safe to say Narusaku is still the top dog, if there was anything known in this chapter, its that Sakura is not 100% on Sasuke. She is more focused on the entirety of the team, hence this chapter has the flashbacks before the seal is revealed.

 

Sakura did say that hers surpassed Tsunade, the exact details are not fully known though, but what I loved about this chapter is it not only revealed Sakura's power, it also shut up haters even more, some said they hated her because she never used this power, well its simple now, she never used it because it was a long time development technique. Remember one thing Kishi has done with Sakura was make her a late bloomer in terms of skill towards Naruto.

 

Two things I can clearly see and fall back that just makes this chapter great, when Sakura first promised Naruto but said he may have to wait a while and the second from 573. They just resonate well with this chapter. Heck 573 from Sakura has already applied 3 times to this one chapter, Hinata only got 615 with her stuff. Sakura's speech from 573 just kept popping up in these past 3 weeks with her saying stuff like we will all fight together this time or no matter what you say I wont let you handle it alone. This is much better then some silly hand holding desire.

 

The SS thing, well its left debatable if sakura was blushing or had dirt, but does it matter? Has SasuSaku even advanced at all? Naruto is there too and the fact that he is gotta be real careful now to never oppose or upset Sakura, heh I wonder if Kurama will mention anything about her temper like Minato did. I'm still convinced Naruto loves Sakura and its kinda funny how some haters are sayying haha we have been trolled. Its basically like this:

 

Last chapter 631- Minakush torpedoed the NH and SS ships and basically sided with NaruSaku. It caused great upset to the others for Sakura being like Kushina.

 

This week: SS basically did the equivalent of throwing a rock at a battleship, the worse they could do is break a window. SS basically threw a small rock at NS if anything, is that much? No.

 

615 passed, it was a moment but moments pass. Sakura-Kushina, thats a theme in the story which came back, its not centrally tied to one character, it was started by Kushina before death, Minato continued it with Sakura, it can be built more. Heck I'm awaiting the forehead stuff more then ever with the yin seal release. If Naruto gets time to notice it later he may just blurt it out or something. SS is still gone well, nowhere. The biggest challenge of all is just how does Sasuke feel about Sakura and the whole deal is though, theres no real point in him loving Sakura this late.

 

I would also say one thing, the second to last panel, she just says how if both of them are busy fighting she make take hokage away from both of them. Remember Sakura wanted to see team 7 together again and because they are she is just having some joy with it. She didn't revert, the simple attention to saying his name, she has not gone back, she has not forgotten about Naruto. 631 is still ours, nothing undermined it and especially not a simple thing like this. No point in making a huge deal with it. Even the jealousy of Naruto can still be seen if anything showing he still loves Sakura. Why did Sakura say Sasuke? Not cause she loved him or because she saw him first, if anything she may have been happy and surprised at his commitment to both of them and also this is the first time they fought together since Gaara. Sakrua is not fangirling and did not revert, she is not going to forget Naruto. Sakura-Kushina is still the priority and big factor for us now aside from all past development.

 

No matter how its cut this chapter, nothing trolled or set us back, if anything did happen SS wise, it didn't advance them or hurt us in practically anyway, its like the first people get nailed by torpedos, one retaliated by throwing a rock, what is stronger here?

 

NS is still on top of things, basically, we can safely conclude this: Nothing has changed this week, anti-NS fans will say what they want, but nothing has changed, even if they did it is completely insignificant to the reveal of who was like Kushina last week (sakura) and that Naruto is still most likely in love with Sakura (betting he is in love cause well he never did change his feelings, if anything this week with his umm I'm here too, is also an indicator). NH can continue to argue the hand holding but Hinata never said anything beyond this, there arn't any major story elements left with her. SS can argue the thank you, Sasuke's redemption, and this minor moment (even if they can), but it is still the least developed of the 3 big ones, Sasuke still has no reason to go loving Sakura at all, not to mention nothing saying Sakura cannot mature. Sakura can and most likely will mature over her ideals of Sasuke. As I see it, NS has the advantage for a few clear reasons, past development, the Sakura-Kushina parallel, and the fact that there are many lingering elements to both continue and build further on the Sakura-Kushina stuff, hell the Sakura-Kushina stuff can be bolstered further with the whole forehead deal more then ever, now there is a symbol on Sakura's forehead that Naruto may love even more. Not to mention just imagine if Kurama had some input. There is also the whole ordeal with 457 and the possibilty of Obirin or Sasuke himself even giving Sakura the kakashi-rin "im not good" talk. Even the whole deal with hokage, Sakura is bound to support Naruto, not Sasuke. to me, Sakura was just joking about being hokage because to her, it was part of a good time in the bleakest of situations to have the team reunited.

 

No matter how haters cut it this chapter, NS is still top dog. I have faith in NS, nothing has shifted this chapter, if it did, it has been so minimal, its hardly any minimal gain for SS or loss for NS. I mean remember, this is for middle school ranged children to understand, its not as hard and blown out of proportion as others make it, this entire post explaining it is just how carried away we can get with these things. Blushing or dirt, it does not matter and does nothing. It would take a lot and I mean A LOT to bury that Sakura-Kushina parallel, again, its for the reader to figure out, not try to make it some logic on the characters to deduce. Sakura never knew Kushina so she won't understand it, but others like Minato, and possibly Kurama and Naruto himself, well they can build on this, also again the forehead stuff. I'm just going to say this, everything Kushina said, Naruto followed. So far Sakura is the only girl like Kushina. No way its going to be reaffirmed either. In a nutshell yes, if things continue on the way they were with 631 and without anything really advancing for SS like in this one, NS would be canon at this rate. I have faith, 95% NaruSaku will happen, just really need to see things when it comes to Hinata being finished up and how Sakura will come to terms with her feelings when the time is right. I can still see 2 future NS events that are highly possible, the forehead for obvious reasons building on the sakura-kushina thing and letting Sakura realize it was Naruto, not Sasuke that day. The other is Naruto finishing the promise and Sasuke comes back but she chooses him over Sasuke.

 

NS is still top dog, lets hope it stays this way, otherwise the Kushina parallel dies with us.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:51 PM

Sorry, I shouldn't complain when everybody is in a good mood but....

 

 

I don't want to go to work tomorrow :cry: I WANT TO READ THIS CHAPTER ALL DAY TOMORROW!!!!! 


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:52 PM

I wonder if people will even notice if someone from the rookies (Shikamaru, for example) decides to grow a pair of boobs, lol.  :hehehe:

 

You should get some sleep! OFF TO BED, YOUNG MAN!  :fist:

LMAO! I'd notice that. :P

 

And I'm fine. The excitement has kept me up and I may take a small nap a little later. :D 



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:54 PM

Sorry, I shouldn't complain when everybody is in a good mood but....

 

 

I don't want to go to work tomorrow :cry: I WANT TO READ THIS CHAPTER ALL DAY TOMORROW!!!!! 

it seems that you really enjoyed this chapter :fu:  How badass was Sakura? And she's only at the beginning....

 

Ehi, dou you expect some kiss forehead from a certain blonde guy? :hehehe: Sometimes Kishi seems too predicable to me... Well, let's see...


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