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[{Jade~Rabbit}]

HEA means Happily Ever After. It's the happy ending.

Karin is certainly another possibility for Sasuke. Thought, she did sort of indicate that his good looks are no longer enough to keep her interested since the incident with piercing lightning and all that. One thing that keeps me hopeful when it comes to SS is that Karin did get over Sasuke (or did she?) when he tried to kill her. Why didn't Sakura? Is Kishi trying to show that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are truly unconditional? Or is he trying to show that Karin is the one for Sasuke since she doesn't take that kind of kitten from him (or does she)? If I were Karin, I wouldn't piss off the man who tried to kill me by slapping him. Sasuke does seem more stable now, so maybe he wouldn't try to kill her for doing that.

Edit. To be more on-topic. I don't think Hinata is going to die in the course of this manga. She has already survived one attack when Pain tried to kill her. And now Neji sacrificed his life to save her (and Naruto). There is no way she will die now that another character has done such a thing for her. Or I will be very, very suprised if she does.

I'm not saying I disagree with you because I do agree I don't think Hinata will die but remember Neji was critically injured and almost died during the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, admittedly that was during Part 1 and not against a major villain but still I don't think you can expect characters to be immune just because they've already survived once. Neji's death to me goes against that line of thinking.

And as you said you expect Kakashi to die which is an opinion shared by a good portion of the fanbase from what I've seen and he's already died once.

Honestly, after Neji's death I would not say Hinata's 'safe'. Just like with Gaara's situation now. He's had a 'death' but he's still not 'safe'... As much as I want him to be.

I don't think anyone's safe anymore. I really don't.

[Qia]

I didn't say she has caught up with him, I'm saying her line of reasoning was that she would have caught up with him. So yes, she is technically still chasing him, but it's anything but purely platonic.

Then why did she say she would stop =/? That's the only thing I'm confused about now.

[Don-kun]

How did she catch up to him? The only way I see her catching up is if Naruto admitted that he had feelings for her. But that's just my opinion. She's still the chaser here.

I think you have a great point Qia I don't know but this might be mistranslation or something, because Hinata statement once again was silenced by the speech boubbles with dots.

Then on the following panel it seems that she is referring to this current time since she ask that he most wait for her, almost the same sentence the other Rookies used as swell since most of then has for Naruto to wait for them meaning the present time.

1 panel, her thought ended with the speech bubbles with dots.

1st panel 573-9 --Click here to view--

Second panel it seems that she is referring to the next time they see each other while she ask that he most wait for her to arrive like the other Rookies.

2nd panel
573-10 --Click here to view--

[neoshadow]

If Obito get's TnJ'd and uses the Rinne Tensei, would it revive everyone, or just one person?

Because it's sort of implied it can only revive one person if Obito uses it (i.e, reviving only Madara).

I hope it's only one person mainly because i do not want Kishi to use the mass revival jutsu/deus ex machina/reset to zero again.

I sort of expect that he will revive Madara, there is a lot of tension between the 2 of them and I'm almost counting down the days to they betray each other, either because he is redeemed by Naruto/Kakashi or Madara betrays him/leaves him to die I think Obito will revive Madara so the army can actually kill him.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

I'm not saying I disagree with you because I do agree I don't think Hinata will die but remember Neji was critically injured and almost died during the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, admittedly that was during Part 1 and not against a major villain but still I don't think you can expect characters to be immune just because they've already survived once. Neji's death to me goes against that line of thinking.

And as you said you expect Kakashi to die which is an opinion shared by a good portion of the fanbase from what I've seen and he's already died once.

Hinata's miracle survival in Pain arc and her near-escape of death in this very chapter seal the deal for me. She has survived death twice now, once because another character made sacrifice for her sake. This manga approaches its ending so there can't be that many risks for her anymore. Kakashi's death is more of a "maybe" for me. I can see him dying to be with Obito and Rin and his dad after seeing the next generation surpassing him. But I think he can easily survive, too.

Nefertieh, it's still a crush, no? It might make her sad, it might make her ashamed, it might make her do cartwheels around the medic camp. It is certainly possible that that moment has made Sakura reconsider her feelings for Sasuke. That's not confirmed, though. It's pretty natural for Sakura to be sad in that moment. Sasuke's gone all evil and on top of that, never even had feelings for her in the first place. The Love Letter Guy wishes her and Sasuke happiness together, but Sakura knows just how bleak their future together is looking. Will she loose all hope on them ever being together? Maybe.

Then why did she say she would stop =/? That's the only thing I'm confused about now.

Because Hinata doesn't need to run after Naruto if Naruto is walking right next to her. I don't know exactly how Hinata plans to catch up to Naruto. When Naruto wants to catch up to Sasuke, it seems to mean that Naruto plans to impress Sasuke enough that Sasuke will recognize Naruto as his equal, as a good fighter and as a important bond. Maybe Hinata means something similar?

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 20 December 2012 - 04:48 AM.

[luffyq1]

Is it wrong that I felt absolutely nothing when Neji died? Am I a monster?

God help me!

[swagosaurus]

The way I see it, both Sakura and Hinata have to get over their respective love interests. Why?

It's a detriment to both of their characters. It makes them feel negatively at times, and it's put them in danger multiple times. Not to mention it makes them look bad/gets them hate.

Is it wrong that I felt absolutely nothing when Neji died? Am I a monster?

God help me!

Nah, I didn't really care for it either. It didn't have an impact, unlike Jiraiya's.

Edited by swagosaurus, 20 December 2012 - 04:47 AM.

[Nefertieh]

Then why did she say she would stop =/? That's the only thing I'm confused about now.

I didn't say she would stop, I meant from her perspective she would no longer be "chasing" him because she would have 'caught up' with him -- by holding his hand.

[Qia]

I think you have a great point Qia I don't know but this might be mistranslation or something, because Hinata statement once again was silenced by the speech boubbles with dots.

Then on the following panel it seems that she is referring to this current time since she ask that he most wait for her, almost the same sentence the other Rookies used as swell since most of then has for Naruto to wait for them meaning the present time.

1 panel, her thought ended with the speech bubbles with dots.

1st panel 573-9 --Click here to view--

Second panel it seems that she is referring to the next time they see each other while she ask that he most wait for her to arrive like the other Rookies.

2nd panel
573-10 --Click here to view--

YES. someone else who sees it this way. It would make more sense if it was like that. I like the fact that her face is slightly hidden with those "...". Besides, she would really be contradicting herself if it was meant the way the fandom took it...But we'll see? . If it's proven true, then that means the only two main ships left to take care of is SS and NS.

I didn't say she would stop, I meant from her perspective she would no longer be "chasing" him because she would have 'caught up' with him -- by holding his hand.

So she's just going to randomly...hold his hand?

Edited by Qia, 20 December 2012 - 04:54 AM.

[Nefertieh]

I think you have a great point Qia I don't know but this might be mistranslation or something, because Hinata statement once again was silenced by the speech boubbles with dots.

Then on the following panel it seems that she is referring to this current time since she ask that he most wait for her, almost the same sentence the other Rookies used as swell since most of then has for Naruto to wait for them meaning the present time.

1 panel, her thought ended with the speech bubbles with dots.

1st panel 573-9 --Click here to view--

Second panel it seems that she is referring to the next time they see each other while she ask that he most wait for her to arrive like the other Rookies.

2nd panel
573-10 --Click here to view--

Except she didn't just want him to wait for her, she wanted to hold his hand. It is all about the romance, not a gesture of friendship. It doesn't mean the feeling would be mutual, but she didn't mean it as a platonic gesture.

Edited by Nefertieh, 20 December 2012 - 05:01 AM.

[Don-kun]

YES. someone else who sees it this way. It would make more sense if it was like that. I like the fact that her face is slightly hidden with those "...". Besides, she would really be contradicting herself if it was meant the way the fandom took it...But we'll see? . If it's proven true, then that means the only two main ships left to take care of is SS and NS.

I already told Poison that I might be wrong but I feel NH ship will end soon and the love drama will focus on Team 7 again, Sakura will make her final choice once both guys are on the same side, or it will just end with all of them just being friend, while they becomes the new 3 Sannins of Konoha.

Except she didn't just want him to wait for her, she wanted to hold his hand. It is all about the romance, not a gesture of friendship. It doesn't mean the feeling would be mutual, but she didn't mean it as a platonic gesture.

I already reply to Qia saying that Tokio Kid stated that it was meant to be romantic not platonic, the problem relies on if she will get what she wants or she will be shutdown, I believe she will get shutdown but I'm not Kishi so I could be wrong.

Edited by Don-kun, 20 December 2012 - 05:00 AM.

[swagosaurus]

I already told Poison that I might be wrong but I feel NH ship will end soon and the love drama will focus on Team 7 again, Sakura will make her final choice once both guys are on the same side, or it will just end with all of them just being friend, while they becomes the new 3 Sannins of Konoha.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason why Hinata is getting so much focus this late into the manga.

[Qia]

Except she didn't just want him to wait for her, she wanted to hold his hand. It is all about the romance, not a gesture of friendship. It doesn't mean the feeling would be mutual, but she didn't mean it as a platonic gesture.

I don't think she literally meant "hold his hand" though. Because...she hasn't exactly made a move to do that. And she said next time (which is now) that she would. Even someone else (I forgot who) mentioned the wait for me part in their speech. But this is just speculation...best to drop it and see? ._.

[luffyq1]

Nah, I didn't really care for it either. It didn't have an impact, unlike Jiraiya's.

Glad I'm not the only one

[Chatte]

I already told Poison that I might be wrong but I feel NH ship will end soon and the love drama will focus on Team 7 again, Sakura will make her final choice once both guys are on the same side, or it will just end with all of them just being friend, while they becomes the new 3 Sannins of Konoha.

To be honest, I'd love for this to happen more than anything else, in the end.
All wars and hate and bashfulness will just end.
I am waiting for Sakura to be the next taking Tsunade's legacy for a long time now....Naruto and Sasuke did it, only she hasn't, unfortunately.

[swagosaurus]

If Tsunade dies, Sakura development?

Kishi plz.

[Nefertieh]

I already reply to Qia saying that Tokio Kid stated that it was meant to be romantic not platonic, the problem relies on if she will get what she wants or she will be shutdown, I believe she will get shutdown but I'm not Kishi so I could be wrong.

Well, that is the million dollar question isn't it?

I don't think she literally meant "hold his hand" though. Because...she hasn't exactly made a move to do that. And she said next time (which is now) that she would. Even someone else (I forgot who) mentioned the wait for me part in their speech. But this is just speculation...best to drop it and see? ._.

I agree, it could be figurative. But it is a romantic gesture coming from her, to her love interest. She said after the war, but the way, and the "wait for me" did come from her.

573 --Click here to view--

So she's just going to randomly...hold his hand?

She has already confessed to him; maybe she is planning on something else. I can't say, but trying to argue that her desire to hold Naruto's hand isn't romantic is like saying Naruto's desire to ask Sakura on a date isn't romantic. =/ Do you see where I'm getting at this? I don't like naruhina or Hinata's insistence to constantly make herself a woman who can't stand without her man, but we as a fandom shouldn't start denying that Hinata's interested in Naruto simply because it isn't literal or "possibly platonic."

Edited by Nefertieh, 20 December 2012 - 05:07 AM.

[{Jade~Rabbit}]

I think the NH is about to cease pretty soon too. I hope so, but right now I'm just chill about all of this.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Haha. Well, they weren't exactly holding hands, they did that finger-holding hand gesture thing that Iruka mentioned in the chapter when Sasuke and Naruto met as kids.

And context as well. Naruto and Sasuke have platonic bond. Hinata, we know this for sure, is in love with Naruto. When girl who is in love with you wants to hold hands, the meaning is pretty different than if your mom wants hold your hand. Or at least I hope so.

[luffyq1]

And context as well. Naruto and Sasuke have platonic bond. Hinata, we know this for sure, is in love with Naruto. When girl who is in love with you wants to hold hands, the meaning is pretty different than if your mom wants hold your hand. Or at least I hope so.

Japan.