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@touken
Hinata is a heroine and waifu material or is that sasuke




Anyway if sasuke have feeling to sakura or they're indeed a couple back then, the ss argument will be valid Eventhough their pairing more like 50 shades of gray than your typical shoujo pairing.

And yes, the lack of dimension in the character hurt the manga, even the main characters lack it too.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@touken
Hinata is a heroine and waifu material or is that sasuke




Anyway if sasuke have feeling to sakura or they're indeed a couple back then, the ss argument will be valid Eventhough their pairing more like 50 shades of gray than your typical shoujo pairing.

And yes, the lack of dimension in the character hurt the manga, even the main characters lack it too.

Sasuke should have shown any feelings for her and the long journey shouldn't be that long or nasty. The latter mainly.

[Shadow1275]

^idk even know what your problem is shadow, because I never gave Sasuke a free pass.You're the second person that puts words in my mouth now, the trick is getting old tbh. You're saying just the same things as the other guy. I never said he didn't do bad things and I don't care how cute he is or how much feelings he hurt. All of that is irrelevant. Are you being difficult on purpose is did I not write english or something?

The post I replied to talked about a pile of bodies and mothers of dead sons.. Sasuke didn't kill a 'ton' of people like they said, and no mom should punch him in the face for letting Sasuke go.

This isn't a discussion. I'm pointing out FYIs, what was factually wrong in the post before the edit.

Bolded: Lol Sushi reread my post. I didn't say that Sasuke killed a ton of ppl. In fact I acknowledged that he didn't. Nor did I say that you're giving Sasuke a free pass. All I said was that even though he didn't commit murder he still attempted to. And the Sauce get out of jail free card was in response to vanitas not you. Point to one part of my post where I put words in your mouth.

 

And lilnevergiveup's posts aren't the same as mine. He said Sauce mass murdered ppl, I said he didn't. The only time he murdered a large amount of ppl was the samurai which I pointed out.

 

Underlined: In the one I responded to you mentioned the samurai. I was the one who brought up the samurai, which means you were responding to me. Next time quote who you're responding.

 

That, and Sasuke isn't the only one getting a free pass. He's not getting special treatment. Kabuto leads the goddamn orphanage, Gaara is a kage, the elders are still on the counsil as far as I know..

you also have no business posting a snarly video like that.

Bolded: Preaching to the choir there. But Sasuke deserves more focus bc he is a main character who we are supposed to emulate.

 

Lol I'll post whatever videos I want to thank you very much. That video was making fun of the fact that lilnevergiveup said one thing than edited it to another. Hence the now for something completely different as opposed to a this is the exact same thing that he posted before video.

 

Relax Sush, don't get all worked up so easily.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Bolded: Lol Sushi reread my post. I didn't say that Sasuke killed a ton of ppl. In fact I acknowledged that he didn't. Nor did I say that you're giving Sasuke a free pass. All I said was that even though he didn't commit murder he still attempted to. And the Sauce get out of jail free card was in response to vanitas not you. Point to one part of my post where I put words in your mouth.

 

And lilnevergiveup's posts aren't the same as mine. He said Sauce mass murdered ppl, I said he didn't. The only time he murdered a large amount of ppl was the samurai which I pointed out.

 

Underlined: In the one I responded to you mentioned the samurai. I was the one who brought up the samurai, which means you were responding to me. Next time quote who you're responding.

 

Bolded: Preaching to the choir there. But Sasuke deserves more focus bc he is a main character who we are supposed to emulate.

 

Lol I'll post whatever videos I want to thank you very much. That video was making fun of the fact that lilnevergiveup said one thing than edited it to another. Hence the now for something completely different as opposed to a this is the exact same thing that he posted before video.

 

Relax Sush, don't get all worked up so easily.

I'm still trying to figure out where in any of my posts I stated that Sasuke killed a ton of people. I never said that in any of my posts. Once again, my post must have been mistaked with someone else's.

 

I didn't change any of my posts because my post was about a whole different topic altogether. The only thing I changed in my post was the word punch to Rasenshuriken. My post was mainly about Naruto.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 14 March 2017 - 04:31 AM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

In general, Sasuke did kill people, and he did commit (international) criminal acts, a number of which were punishable by death anyway.

Heck, his leaving the village for Orochimaru would normally have been taken care of by having him immediately put in the Bingo Book to be killed by Hunter Nin, but not only was Tsunade emotionally connected to Naruto and Sakura so that it made her go against the normal rules for such a situation, but because of Konoha still recovering from the Chunin Exam invasion, there was a severe shortage of manpower for such a thing.

And even though he didn't necessarily succeed in some of those criminal acts, like Bee's capture and attempted extraction, it doesn't change the intent behind those actions. Sasuke wasn't even trying to help save the world for the sake OF saving the world, much less to help or protect anyone, but solely because he saw Obito / Madara / Kaguya as just more obstacles on the path of his own selfish goals. So even though he may have "helped save the world", his intent certainly wasn't pure, and it certainly should not have earned him a free pass for everything else that he did.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

In general, Sasuke did kill people, and he did commit (international) criminal acts, a number of which were punishable by death anyway.

Heck, his leaving the village for Orochimaru would normally have been taken care of by having him immediately put in the Bingo Book to be killed by Hunter Nin, but not only was Tsunade emotionally connected to Naruto and Sakura so that it made her go against the normal rules for such a situation, but because of Konoha still recovering from the Chunin Exam invasion, there was a severe shortage of manpower for such a thing.

And even though he didn't necessarily succeed in some of those criminal acts, like Bee's capture and attempted extraction, it doesn't change the intent behind those actions. Sasuke wasn't even trying to help save the world for the sake OF saving the world, much less to help or protect anyone, but solely because he saw Obito / Madara / Kaguya as just more obstacles on the path of his own selfish goals. So even though he may have "helped save the world", his intent certainly wasn't pure, and it certainly should not have earned him a free pass for everything else that he did.

 

Exactly, like how much of his goals were for his own needs, like when he complimented Sakura's Genjutsu skills at the start of the Chunin Exams just to get through, or his wanting to initially kill Naruto to gain the Mangekyo Sharingan, or his simply wanting to be stronger than Itachi because of the recognition Itachi got, unaware of the fact he also might be used as a tool by Fugaku as long as he got that recognition, and even his being used by Obito as an easy pawn by believing his lies about his not being involved with Kurama's attack on the Leaf. Not to mention only facing Orochimaru when he was weak since he knew, even after three years of training, he knew he couldn't beat him in a fair fight since he barely did ANYTHING to him back during the Chunin Exams in the Forest of Death.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think Kishi just thought no one would remember and go with the usual route of Shounen where everyone can be forgiven. It's nothing wrong with that but why start now...

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@touken
Because hxh.

I agree with sushi.
Sasuke is not a villain, even at his worst (kage summit arc).

[VanitasDS76491]

Exactly, like how much of his goals were for his own needs, like when he complimented Sakura's Genjutsu skills at the start of the Chunin Exams just to get through, or his wanting to initially kill Naruto to gain the Mangekyo Sharingan, or his simply wanting to be stronger than Itachi because of the recognition Itachi got, unaware of the fact he also might be used as a tool by Fugaku as long as he got that recognition, and even his being used by Obito as an easy pawn by believing his lies about his not being involved with Kurama's attack on the Leaf. Not to mention only facing Orochimaru when he was weak since he knew, even after three years of training, he knew he couldn't beat him in a fair fight since he barely did ANYTHING to him back during the Chunin Exams in the Forest of Death.

So sasuke and pretty much every one in naruto are puppets and the most gullible morons ever especially naruto and hinata.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@touken
Because hxh.

I agree with sushi.
Sasuke is not a villain, even at his worst (kage summit arc).

He's a villain. To my brain. Gave me a bad migraine for his writing direction.

[rocci]

He's a villain. To my brain. Gave me a bad migraine for his writing direction.

He isn't, because kishi protected him.

I agree that it would be interesting if he does become one. He will become the final villain.

The way I see it kishi want to make sasuke naruto opposite (rival) Eventhough his writing is all over the place.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He isn't, because kishi protected him.

I agree that it would be interesting if he does become one. He will become the final villain.

The way I see it kishi want to make sasuke naruto opposite (rival) Eventhough his writing is all over the place.

I think you missed the joke. That or I wasn't clear.

I'm saying he's not villain, true, but to me he is because he gave me a headache. That's sinister to make me think because his writing is so out of nowhere. That's sadistic!

[T XD]

Sasuke was a bad guy who was an evildoer, but not turned into a villain in the story because his evil actions wasn't focused on much.

Edited by T XD, 14 March 2017 - 12:43 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Sasuke was a bad guy who was an evildoer, but not turned into a villain in the story because his evil actions wasn't focused on much.

He wanted commit genocide on the world and kill the current kage. That's like saying obito and madara weren't villains given everything they've done when clearly they were. Or saying the joker or kefka and wesker weren't villains despite what they've done.
I'd like to see naruto try his talk no justu on those three and it doesn't work, cause those three can't be reasoned with especially joker and kefka.

[Illnevergiveup3]

He wanted commit genocide on the world and kill the current kage. That's like saying obito and madara weren't villains given everything they've done when clearly they were. Or saying the joker or kefka and wesker weren't villains despite what they've done.
I'd like to see naruto try his talk no justu on those three and it doesn't work, cause those three can't be reasoned with especially joker and kefka.

he should try it on Doomsday.

[VanitasDS76491]

he should try it on Doomsday.

Ya but doomsday is rage incarnate and has no brain it would work anyway but that be nice to see him fail at trying to reason with a monster that can't be killed.
I think joker, Kefka and wesket work better cause they know they're evil but don't care so naruto trying to reason with them works better but he fails. Besides naruto can't match wits with joker and kefka is a God and has a one hit kill.
Oh I remember someone give examples of a moe character and ruby rose with that and I just got done with vol 1 of rwby and ruby may be that kind of character. But unlike hinata she still has a character and an identity and personality and ruby is a badass and her weapon is awesome and scythe that's part sniper rifle how awesome is that.

[Phantom_999]

My friends, my friends! Here is how it works. Almost all the Uchiha are criminals, terrorists and anarchists and they ALL GET A FREE PASS!!!!! because they are all their "god's" creator's pets and secret fetishes  I mean seriously, you don't have to look deeper than they are CURSED TO LOVE TOO MUCH  They are either poorly excused of all the above descriptions or white sheep angels that can do no wrong like Itachi and Shinsui even though Itachi DID DO a lot of crimes for the so called greater  good as well and Shinsui's sacrifice makes sort of no sense in context when I think about it

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 March 2017 - 10:43 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Naruto: DOOMSDAY!

 

*Doomsday turns to look at him*

 

Naruto:  I understand you have hatred in your heart, I understand you were created to kill! But that doesn't give you a free pass to go around killing innocent people! You have to fight it before I make you stop!

 

*Doomsday looks down in "understanding" and Naruto smiles.

 

Naruto: I knew you had it in...

 

*Doomsday punches Naruto and sends him flying to the sun.*

 

Naruto: YOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

[VanitasDS76491]

Naruto: DOOMSDAY!
 
*Doomsday turns to look at him*
 
Naruto:  I understand you have hatred in your heart, I understand you were created to kill! But that doesn't give you a free pass to go around killing innocent people! You have to fight it before I make you stop!
 
*Doomsday looks down in "understanding" and Naruto smiles.
 
Naruto: I knew you had it in...
 
*Doomsday punches Naruto and sends him flying to the sun.*
 
Naruto: YOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

Interesting but I think naruto would explode when doomsday hit him or he'd what he did to hulk in death battle which I would totally fine with. Do one for joker, kefka and wesker.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Interesting but I think naruto would explode when doomsday hit him or he'd what he did to hulk in death battle which I would totally fine with. Do one for joker, kefka and wesker.

I don't think the Joker would stand a chance against Naruto in my personal opinion. I don't know who Kefka or Wesker is.