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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:04 AM

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:27 AM

Like what? I'm afraid to look cause there might a stupid NH/SS fan and everytime I hear them talk it pisses me off. 

I think it's mostly because a lot of ship-neutrals are antis now. Before, the fandom was divided into NS, NH/SS, and neutrals. Now it's basically NH/SS vs. the rest of the world lol.XD


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:54 AM

I think it's mostly because a lot of ship-neutrals are antis now. Before, the fandom was divided into NS, NH/SS, and neutrals. Now it's basically NH/SS vs. the rest of the world lol.XD


And I hope nh/ss lose.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 02:32 AM

And I hope nh/ss lose.

We all lost. Naruto's story was sacrificed for the NH/SS pairing gods to asspull the ending and the end pairings are so hated and ridiculed that the entire series is pretty much dead.

 

I'm glad tbh, I really hate what Naruto became as it went on. Just turned from something beautiful into complete and utter garbage.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:11 AM

We all lost. Naruto's story was sacrificed for the NH/SS pairing gods to asspull the ending and the end pairings are so hated and ridiculed that the entire series is pretty much dead.

 

I'm glad tbh, I really hate what Naruto became as it went on. Just turned from something beautiful into complete and utter garbage.

 

Amen brother. -_-


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:05 PM

But here is the guys and girls Th NH/SS fans don't care to them they have won, if someone does a vid on it they will flock to that vid until its taken down or untill the person who either made it ot left at comment on it has become a NH fan or and SS fan, that's what I hate about it well them that is because they just can't stop.

 

We, the true fans knows Naruto is dead, the only way it can come back if Kishi SP and JUMP all says they kittened all three need to do this, I mean they have to put Hinata in the dirt big time along with her fabs as well. Then maybe then it can be fixed after they all admit what they did was wrong and how they kittened up so badly.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 03:31 PM

I did two videos talking about my disappointment with the last two chapters of the manga I did have a couple NH/SS fans comment i took them down not because of the NH/SS fandom but so I can separate myself from that rush pile of crap.What annoys me is that after the ending they still were acting ridiculous I gotta be honest vegeta and bulma has better development than NH/SS because vegeta showed that he cares it's just he's stubborn he even had better development than sasuke.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:13 PM

I did two videos talking about my disappointment with the last two chapters of the manga I did have a couple NH/SS fans comment i took them down not because of the NH/SS fandom but so I can separate myself from that rush pile of crap.What annoys me is that after the ending they still were acting ridiculous I gotta be honest vegeta and bulma has better development than NH/SS because vegeta showed that he cares it's just he's stubborn he even had better development than sasuke.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 07:33 PM

I did two videos talking about my disappointment with the last two chapters of the manga I did have a couple NH/SS fans comment i took them down not because of the NH/SS fandom but so I can separate myself from that rush pile of crap.What annoys me is that after the ending they still were acting ridiculous I gotta be honest vegeta and bulma has better development than NH/SS because vegeta showed that he cares it's just he's stubborn he even had better development than sasuke.

 

Exactly, Kai, and Vegeta went through worse than Sasuke really; he lost not just his parents BUT his whole world and any potential for anything else other than what Frieza had made him become when he had him doing his dirty work. It took him a while, but he managed to make it work and become the person he could become, even if he retained a lot of his stubbornness and pride because of his heritage, and to mask his pain. It's why he was handled way better than Sasuke for sure.

 

And also, I don't blame you for taking any videos down if fans are gonna be asses about it. Honestly, I often think when I say something somewhere with NH and SS fans showing up, I feel like "Ohh, crap, here we GO..." and accepting a flame storm to come because my opinion differs from theirs. I'd say they just want us gone because they know their canon "win" is pyrrhic at best, and that they cannot handle the truth, so they want no opposition, hence why they attack NS fans.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:02 PM

Logan and Uncharted 4 showcased an amazing way of  the hero's journey and how to leave a small crack one for the future. 

 

 

 

Nathan Drake's end in Uncharted 4 was amazing, especially with the ending when it came to introducing Cassie, and how organic it felt. 

 

Logan/Wolverine's end in Logan is about the same thing especailyl with Laura and how she can take up the mantle it was so organic. 

 

 

 

Cassie and Laura outshine Boruto and his generation without a shadow of a doubt. 


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:37 PM

Careful on the spoiler for Logan as it is relatively new.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:53 PM

Careful on the spoiler for Logan as it is relatively new.

 

 

True, just thought I'd only mention that she's a better character, and just tiny detail. 

 

 

As far as the experience goes.. I won't say much more on it aside from that.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 10:57 PM

I did two videos talking about my disappointment with the last two chapters of the manga I did have a couple NH/SS fans comment i took them down not because of the NH/SS fandom but so I can separate myself from that rush pile of crap.What annoys me is that after the ending they still were acting ridiculous I gotta be honest vegeta and bulma has better development than NH/SS because vegeta showed that he cares it's just he's stubborn he even had better development than sasuke.

Very true and its the same with Gohan and Videl as well I mean we see how Gohan is with Videl and his own Daughter pan which man fans say is just so sweet and you know what makes it even better they are not saying how big Pan's chest is going to be I mean that is all Naruto is about now who has a bigger chest.

 

To me that is just very sad that this is what Naruto has become now that its just the size of a girls chest and if she can bend over backwards for the guy as that is what males want, not all mind you just NH males who hate girls showing them up as they think its wrong in someway.

 

 

Exactly, Kai, and Vegeta went through worse than Sasuke really; he lost not just his parents BUT his whole world and any potential for anything else other than what Frieza had made him become when he had him doing his dirty work. It took him a while, but he managed to make it work and become the person he could become, even if he retained a lot of his stubbornness and pride because of his heritage, and to mask his pain. It's why he was handled way better than Sasuke for sure.

 

And also, I don't blame you for taking any videos down if fans are gonna be asses about it. Honestly, I often think when I say something somewhere with NH and SS fans showing up, I feel like "Ohh, crap, here we GO..." and accepting a flame storm to come because my opinion differs from theirs. I'd say they just want us gone because they know their canon "win" is pyrrhic at best, and that they cannot handle the truth, so they want no opposition, hence why they attack NS fans.

Damn I know what that is like I mean you say one thing and they will not leave you alone not matter what and will keep bugging you till you join their side that is what one is doing to me right now.



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Posted 09 March 2017 - 11:43 PM

Logan and Uncharted 4 showcased an amazing way of  the hero's journey and how to leave a small crack one for the future. 
 
 
 
Nathan Drake's end in Uncharted 4 was amazing, especially with the ending when it came to introducing Cassie, and how organic it felt. 
 
Logan/Wolverine's end in Logan is about the same thing especailyl with Laura and how she can take up the mantle it was so organic. 
 
 
 
Cassie and Laura outshine Boruto and his generation without a shadow of a doubt.

Agreed Logan was awesome and brought finale to logan. I want to see naruto be broken, old ,tired and loss of hope and everything like Logan did.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:14 AM

Logan and Uncharted 4 showcased an amazing way of  the hero's journey and how to leave a small crack one for the future. 

 

 

 

Nathan Drake's end in Uncharted 4 was amazing, especially with the ending when it came to introducing Cassie, and how organic it felt. 

 

Logan/Wolverine's end in Logan is about the same thing especailyl with Laura and how she can take up the mantle it was so organic. 

 

 

 

Cassie and Laura outshine Boruto and his generation without a shadow of a doubt. 

 

Because Boruto is an emo, kittening brat. He has no depth to his character, not that the writers aren't trying trollolololololol :lmao: Or are they? :hehehe:


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 01:17 AM

Because Boruto is an emo, kittening brat. He has no depth to his character, not that the writers aren't trying trollolololololol :lmao:


So he really is like sasuke, hope bolt turns evil and its all on naruto's hands if he turns evil and destroys everything naruto "worked" for. You think naruto though being hokage through, I mean did he know the work the hokage has to do as a kid, I don't think so.

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:17 PM

Y'know, completely off-topic here but I have to rant a bit:   An online mate of mine starts discussing about Fairy Tail's upcoming finale in the manga and when the topic enters into NaLu, he claims that he "heard" Mashima was undecided about it but may give in to fan pressure to have it happen.  This kinda irked me, so I question him about his source, but he just replies that he "heard it somewhere".  Now, I've been following Mashima's interviews and like, and it comes off as absurd because Hiro has openly stated that Natsu and Lucy like each other and are the closest people in the Guild.   He came up with the name of their child, Nashi, in another interview and even encouraged the hug scene between them to be written in the first Fairy Tail movie.  Let alone the fact that he has made numerous illustrations depicting them as a couple on his Twitter pages.

 

I don't even have to point out how the manga makes it apparent from the beginning since Mashima does not screw around with establishing couples.

 

I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of this since I made similar comments to him in the past about NaruHina and its lackluster development, even providing links to the interviews that hinted that Kishimoto didn't want to go that direction but did so under duress either by editors or the fans.  He just brushes me off as an angry NaruSaku fan since he got what he wanted. 

 

It also doesn't help that the main reason he hates or plain doesn't like to acknowledge pairings like NaruSaku, IchiRuki, etc is because he has a general aversion against "Main lead pairings".  It doesn't matter if they are perfectly compatible or have well-developed relationship, he will dislike them on the basis that they are the mains.  That and he has a weakness to "nicer"girls, whom are usually side-characters, that he wants to hook with the main male character.

 

Anyway, thanks for allowing me to vent.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:39 PM

Y'know, completely off-topic here but I have to rant a bit:   An online mate of mine starts discussing about Fairy Tail's upcoming finale in the manga and when the topic enters into NaLu, he claims that he "heard" Mashima was undecided about it but may give in to fan pressure to have it happen.  This kinda irked me, so I question him about his source, but he just replies that he "heard it somewhere".  Now, I've been following Mashima's interviews and like, and it comes off as absurd because Hiro has openly stated that Natsu and Lucy like each other and are the closest people in the Guild.   He came up with the name of their child, Nashi, in another interview and even encouraged the hug scene between them to be written in the first Fairy Tail movie.  Let alone the fact that he has made numerous illustrations depicting them as a couple on his Twitter pages.

 

I don't even have to point out how the manga makes it apparent from the beginning since Mashima does not screw around with establishing couples.

 

I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of this since I made similar comments to him in the past about NaruHina and its lackluster development, even providing links to the interviews that hinted that Kishimoto didn't want to go that direction but did so under duress either by editors or the fans.  He just brushes me off as an angry NaruSaku fan since he got what he wanted. 

 

It also doesn't help that the main reason he hates or plain doesn't like to acknowledge pairings like NaruSaku, IchiRuki, etc is because he has a general aversion against "Main lead pairings".  It doesn't matter if they are perfectly compatible or have well-developed relationship, he will dislike them on the basis that they are the mains.  That and he has a weakness to "nicer"girls, whom are usually side-characters, that he wants to hook with the main male character.

 

Anyway, thanks for allowing me to vent.

That's the kittentiest thing I've heard today XD

 

I assume it's because it's cliché, putting mains together? He's not wrong but doing so makes it a lot easier to write. Just don't be mad and instead show him when NaLu becomes canon, it's pretty much evident. (Y)

 

Also in case he ships IchiHime, Orihime is the main female, together with Rukia lol.


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 09:44 PM

Nah. He'll make Lucy and Natsu together :P



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Posted 10 March 2017 - 10:12 PM

That's the kittentiest thing I've heard today XD

 

I assume it's because it's cliché, putting mains together? He's not wrong but doing so makes it a lot easier to write. Just don't be mad and instead show him when NaLu becomes canon, it's pretty much evident. (Y)

I really don't have problems with his shipping sensibilities, even when I don't agree with them, but the suggestion that Mashima was only making NaLu canon because the fans pressured him triggered me both because it's baseless speculation and It reminded me of the arguments we NaruSaku fans still have over NaruHina since it's been indicated through evidence Kishimoto was likely harassed into making it happen. 


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