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[LuckyChi7]

A clear example of bad parenting: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now we have a good example of parenting: 

 

 

[VanitasDS76491]

A clear example of bad parenting: 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And now we have a good example of parenting: 
 
 

Agreed mj is a better mother than hinata.

Edited by VanitasDS76491, 24 February 2017 - 03:19 AM.

[Phantom_999]

A clear example of bad parenting: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now we have a good example of parenting: 

 

 

 

I repeat, Hinata never grew that backbone like she should have  Is that so new? she shows not grit for anything but "N-naruto-kun"

Edited by Phantom_999, 24 February 2017 - 03:08 PM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Pretty strange how the author justifies pairing Naruto with HInata on the grounds that Hinata had supported and understood Naruto since the beginning. Why does that reasoning not apply inversely? Naruto had supported and understood Sakura since the beginning, unlike Sasuke, so doesn't Naruto "deserve" Sakura by that logic?

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 27 February 2017 - 10:19 PM.

[Yyubie]

Pretty strange how the author justifies pairing Naruto with HInata on the grounds that Hinata had supported and understood Naruto since the beginning. Why does that reasoning not apply inversely? Naruto had supported Sakura since the beginning, unlike Sasuke, so doesn't Naruto "deserve" Sakura by that logic?

They are stupid / blind / idiot. What is the meaning of SUPPORT in their mind i wonder .... Offering Naruto to cheat during chunnin exam ?? Hide behind tree / wall ?? Try to go against Pein to save naruto without using her brain ??

[Gravenimage]

Pretty strange how the author justifies pairing Naruto with HInata on the grounds that Hinata had supported and understood Naruto since the beginning. Why does that reasoning not apply inversely? Naruto had supported and understood Sakura since the beginning, unlike Sasuke, so doesn't Naruto "deserve" Sakura by that logic?

 

It has always been a fact the NH fandom has never given a kitten about Naruto's feelings, it's always been about Hinata it's always been about her.

[Kagomaru]

 

I repeat, Hinata never grew that backbone like she should have  Is that so new? she shows not grit for anything but "N-naruto-kun"

To be completely fair, she shows a backbone but only in short bursts and only in the most extreme of circumstances; like when she's knocking on death's door or in the process of doing so. 

 

And that's one of the main reasons why Naruto x Hinata is such fail.  She does not have the kind of strong, fierce and enduring personality that Sakura has to put up with Naruto's energetic personality and oppose him when he's acting particularly dense, stubborn or reckless.  Instead, she falls to line and lets him do what he wants. And that sadly extends to her son, because we know that if Sakura was Boruto's mother, Sakura would've set him straight(of course, there's no way Naruto and Sakura would have raised such a petulant punk for a son to begin with if they had hooked up, but I digress).  

 

I mean, again.  Naruto would sooner go to Sasuke, a man who is a worse father and parent than he, to discuss how he can connect with his son than his own wife.

 

Also, yes, the logic that Hinata  "deserves Naruto for her faith in him" when she mostly hid in the background is bullcrap. One: Naruto is not a goddamned object.  Secondly, by that logic, doesn't Naruto deserve to be with Sakura since he had the same belief in her and actively encouraged her throughout their friendship as well as sacrificed so much of himself to ensure her happiness?  Gotta love hypocrisy.

Edited by Kagomaru, 28 February 2017 - 11:50 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

To be completely fair, she shows a backbone but only in short bursts and only in the most extreme of circumstances; like when she's knocking on death's door or in the prospect of doing so. 
 
And that's one of the main reasons why Naruto x Hinata is such fail.  She does not have the kind of strong, fierce and enduring personality that Sakura has to put up with Naruto's energetic personality and oppose him when he's acting particularly dense, stubborn or reckless.  Instead, she falls to line and lets him do what he wants. And that sadly extends to her son, because we know that if Sakura was Boruto's mother, Sakura would've set him straight(of course, there's no way Naruto and Sakura would have raised such a petulant punk for a son to begin with if they had hooked up, but I digress).  
 
I mean, again.  Naruto would sooner go to Sasuke, a man who is a worse father and parent than he, to discuss how he can connect with his son than his own wife.
 
Also, yes, the logic that Hinata  "deserves Naruto for her faith in him" when she mostly hid in the background is bullcrap. One: Naruto is not a goddamned object.  Secondly, by that logic, doesn't Naruto deserve to be with Sakura since he had the same belief in her and actively encouraged her throughout their friendship as well as sacrificed so much of himself to ensure her happiness?  Gotta love hypocrisy.

Agreed that's what naruto is how hypocrisy. This is why shinachiku is a better character than bolt, ya that's all hinata did was stand in the background and watch naruto suffer and not do anything. Sakura had faith in naruto the whole time. People think naruto is hinata' s prize cause now he is and that's all he is to her, ya she doesn't care about his feelings all only what she gets out of it. God naruto series is turning into the people in the Disney flop I'll be home for Christmas and If you've seen the nostalgia critic review of that movie you'd know what I mean. If naruto was with Sakura their kids would be better, naruto would be a good father and hokage and hanami wouldn't ruin her dad's big day if her and shina were born before he became hokage.
Also do they say why kakashi was made hokage when tsunade never made that decision since doesn't she have to make them decision and I feel naruto should been made hokage before he got married.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Everything about "Boruto" and "Himawari" just doesn't make sense. From the whisker marks on their face to them even being the "kids" of Naruto in the first place. They literally go against everything Kishi has written.

 

Another thing that bothered me was the way Naruto "became Hokage." That was literally one of his biggest dreams that he worked so damn hard to achieve and you mean to tell me all he ended up getting for all of his hard work was him getting one-shotted by a little girl and Konohamaru ending up taking his place at his own inauguration, something I imagine would be pretty important to Naruto. It just doesn't make sense.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 28 February 2017 - 01:04 PM.

[sushi.]

To be completely fair, she shows a backbone but only in short bursts and only in the most extreme of circumstances; like when she's knocking on death's door or in the process of doing so. 

 

And that's one of the main reasons why Naruto x Hinata is such fail.  She does not have the kind of strong, fierce and enduring personality that Sakura has to put up with Naruto's energetic personality and oppose him when he's acting particularly dense, stubborn or reckless.  Instead, she falls to line and lets him do what he wants. And that sadly extends to her son, because we know that if Sakura was Boruto's mother, Sakura would've set him straight(of course, there's no way Naruto and Sakura would have raised such a petulant punk for a son to begin with if they had hooked up, but I digress).  

 

I mean, again.  Naruto would sooner go to Sasuke, a man who is a worse father and parent than he, to discuss how he can connect with his son than his own wife.

 

Also, yes, the logic that Hinata  "deserves Naruto for her faith in him" when she mostly hid in the background is bullcrap. One: Naruto is not a goddamned object.  Secondly, by that logic, doesn't Naruto deserve to be with Sakura since he had the same belief in her and actively encouraged her throughout their friendship as well as sacrificed so much of himself to ensure her happiness?  Gotta love hypocrisy.

This logic bothers me because she didn't have faith in him. In the chuunin exams Sakura was cheering him on and Hinata was worried because she thought he would lose. In the battle with Pain, Sakura called out Naruto's name when all hope was lost but him, Hinata byakuganed his fight before he lost the upper hand and instead of taking Katsuyu's intel to make a plan she jumped in front of Pain to die. Naruto only survived because he lost control and went berserk, so essentially she didn't even save him.

 

She always used him to inspire her own growth, but she never had faith that he'd make it himself..it's very confusing tbh I get why NH fans use that argument.

 

A clear example of bad parenting: 

so basically, Naruto is actively a bad parent and Hinata is inactive and barely a parent. what a nice pair.

[Nostradamus]

so basically, Naruto is actively a bad parent and Hinata is inactive and barely a parent. what a nice pair.

But they're so cute together.

Edited by Nostradamus, 28 February 2017 - 05:28 PM.

[sushi.]

But they're so cute together.

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[James S Cassidy]

This logic bothers me because she didn't have faith in him. In the chuunin exams Sakura was cheering him on and Hinata was worried because she thought he would lose. In the battle with Pain, Sakura called out Naruto's name when all hope was lost but him, Hinata byakuganed his fight before he lost the upper hand and instead of taking Katsuyu's intel to make a plan she jumped in front of Pain to die. Naruto only survived because he lost control and went berserk, so essentially she didn't even save him.

 

She always used him to inspire her own growth, but she never had faith that he'd make it himself..it's very confusing tbh I get why NH fans use that argument.

That moment always give me chills in a good way.

And it wasn't that Sakura was weak or or was instantly crying for a savior. It was after the village was flattened, and the realization that nobody in the village could stop Pein's destruction. It wasn't hopelessness...it was her knowing that only Naruto could truly stop him. Like people asking for Superman when everything was just too much.

And then "poof" Naruto shows up out of nowhere.

By the way, at a random thought. So Kakashi was going to die in that instance no matter what, either by nail through the head or using his life force to use chakra. What was the point if you're just gonna die anyway? I guess it could be to "die without pain," but I don't know. It just seems odd to me, why try to survive when you know that nothing you can do can stop your death?

[Kagomaru]

This logic bothers me because she didn't have faith in him. In the chuunin exams Sakura was cheering him on and Hinata was worried because she thought he would lose. In the battle with Pain, Sakura called out Naruto's name when all hope was lost but him, Hinata byakuganed his fight before he lost the upper hand and instead of taking Katsuyu's intel to make a plan she jumped in front of Pain to die. Naruto only survived because he lost control and went berserk, so essentially she didn't even save him.

 

She always used him to inspire her own growth, but she never had faith that he'd make it himself..it's very confusing tbh I get why NH fans use that argument. 

Exactly right!

Edited by Kagomaru, 28 February 2017 - 07:34 PM.

[Shadow1275]

This logic bothers me because she didn't have faith in him. In the chuunin exams Sakura was cheering him on and Hinata was worried because she thought he would lose. In the battle with Pain, Sakura called out Naruto's name when all hope was lost but him, Hinata byakuganed his fight before he lost the upper hand and instead of taking Katsuyu's intel to make a plan she jumped in front of Pain to die. Naruto only survived because he lost control and went berserk, so essentially she didn't even save him.

 

She always used him to inspire her own growth, but she never had faith that he'd make it himself..it's very confusing tbh I get why NH fans use that argument.

Tbh I don't think it's that confusing. You just have to play out the real life situation in your head. Imagine you're Naruto fighting in the Chunin exam, who do you feel like supports you? Who believes in you?

 

Sakura you can hear is cheering you on, Hinata you can see looks like she's about to give up on you.

 

Now the fight with Pain, at the moment Hinata jumps in yes it's clear she supports you but....

 

In hindsight if Naruto were to look back on the fight...

 

She got kittenslapped, died, didn't free him, and almost caused him TO LOSE HIS LIFE AND TOTAL CONTROL AS HE EITHER WENT ON A TOTAL RAMPAGE AS THE 9 TAILED FOX OR BEEN CAPTURED BY PAIN, if not for Minato's brilliant planning.

 

Sakura stayed behind and healed ppl, (I think she passed on information to Naruto but I'm not sure)

 

So tell me again, WHICH GIRL REALLY WAS THE GREATEST SUPPORT FOR NARUTO???

[rocci]

To some, Hinata jump in and confess her love, get stab and it make naruto goes "berserk" are what make her "more heroine than sakura" and convice them that nh is an end pairing.

Thus people doesn't see the circumstance but, well there's many of them.

[Nostradamus]

To some, Hinata jump in and confess her love, get stab and it make naruto goes "berserk" are what make her "more heroine than sakura" and convice them that nh is an end pairing.

Thus people doesn't see the circumstance but, well there's many of them.

Precisely.

[Yyubie]

There's different between being SUPPORTIVE and being a BURDEN , in my opinion being supportive usually have more benefit and less risk while being a burden could end up with someone might died. What hinata did is being a burden to Naruto:

 

Hinata offer her paper to naruto (cheating) :

-Risk : if Naruto accept her offer to cheat and they got caught , naruto will failed the exam, and lose his right to participate in future chunnin exam and forever stay as gennin (technically killing his dream to be hokage because by status there's no way gennin can become hokage), that makes 6 people will forever stay gennin because whoever caught cheating will failed along with all the team member (that makes it naruto, sakura, sasuke, hinata, kiba, shino ... all 6 will forever stay as gennin) it's also kill one of the positive moral message that Naruto said to Konohamaru that there is not shortcut to become Hokage.

 

Hinata try to save Naruto from Pein / Nagato :

Hinata clearly far bellow Pein so her chance to win is zero, she basically have 2 goal , win or at least hold out against pein and free naruto. This is where she didn't use her brain, if you were in Hinata shoes , you know you can't win let alone fight equally solo him , she should at least rally some ninja to aid her , try to free Naruto so he can goes back to fight , create multiple clone/bunshin she can free naruto while her clone hold off pein. No matter how dire the situations as ninja she must maintain her composure and stay calm so she can think.

-Risk : She dies , resulting in Naruto goes berserk , Kyubii consume him meaning his dead , Kyubi goes rampage inside Konoha resulting in MORE people gonna die , pein will either died or be killed in the process , resulting in everyone stays dead (when Nagato suppose to resurrect evereyone).

 

No matter how you look at it 80% of a time Hinata try to help there is always Big risk following it. That is because she never even ONCE try to think the consequence of her actions ... all she can think about is NARUTO-COON, kitten everyone else, all i need is Naruto BIG WARM DI .... I MEAN HAND.

[Phantom_999]

To be completely fair, she shows a backbone but only in short bursts and only in the most extreme of circumstances; like when she's knocking on death's door or in the process of doing so. 

 

And that's one of the main reasons why Naruto x Hinata is such fail.  She does not have the kind of strong, fierce and enduring personality that Sakura has to put up with Naruto's energetic personality and oppose him when he's acting particularly dense, stubborn or reckless.  Instead, she falls to line and lets him do what he wants. And that sadly extends to her son, because we know that if Sakura was Boruto's mother, Sakura would've set him straight(of course, there's no way Naruto and Sakura would have raised such a petulant punk for a son to begin with if they had hooked up, but I digress).  

 

I mean, again.  Naruto would sooner go to Sasuke, a man who is a worse father and parent than he, to discuss how he can connect with his son than his own wife.

 

Also, yes, the logic that Hinata  "deserves Naruto for her faith in him" when she mostly hid in the background is bullcrap. One: Naruto is not a goddamned object.  Secondly, by that logic, doesn't Naruto deserve to be with Sakura since he had the same belief in her and actively encouraged her throughout their friendship as well as sacrificed so much of himself to ensure her happiness?  Gotta love hypocrisy.

 

That is not being fair to her, that is only justifying my point. Hinata is only ever determined for "her N-Naruto-kun". I actually don't recall her being all determined when at death's door or not having any fight in her without her "Naruto-kun". Recall the Pain fight. Nagato (through Yahiko' body) stabbed her and she was left for dead on panel whereas Other characters who received fatal wounds are still up and kicking in their fights. Next I bring up everybody here's "favourite moment" for the Moe Princess, tripping over a rock, then praying for Neji's spirit to Watch over Naruto to make sure he's safe.

 

Now I bring up MY POINTS. Again the Pain fight, where she was worked up the (abeit stupid) gall to challenge Pain because her "beloved Naruto-kun was in trouble" and was only determined to fight for his sake and no one else. Do you remember a time where she would do that for any of her friends/teammates? I sure as hell don't.  Then there is the fact that She felt she had to sacrifice herself for Naruto by jumping in the way of tree branches that are going to impale him instead of using a technique to deflect  the branches which gets Neji killed. Note that that was not even anything special, but she was willing to throw her life away for Naruto-kun. Truly the only times where she ACTS like a shinobi is when "N-Naruto-kun" is involved. Then the "oh so amazing"   part where she was inner monologuing about how she was ALWAYS standing beside her "dazzling man-candy, Naruto-kun"   to finally take down grand total of ONE Juubi clone with the 64 chakra points strikes technique. That's right she used one of the Hyuga's secret techniques to kill ONE mook fodder whereas all of the other K11 had more impressive numbers with less revered techniques. Sakura in particular, killed a whole group of the things, and Hinata's empowering moment is stating how she always took for granted how she was always standing beside her "Naruto-kun snuggle bear"   and working up the courage to kill one Juubi clone. How awesome was that? *clap.......clap........clap...........*

 

So my point still stands. Hinata Hyuuga has NO backbone and NO ambition to stand against anyone for herself or anything but her "N-Naruto-kun!!!!" Not towards her children's bratty behaviour, not for her kittened up family situation, not for Neji's memory by changing said eff-ed up family situation, and definitely not when her life is on the line as a shinobi, unless her "N-Naruto-kun" is involved. Am I wrong?

 

I could bring up part 1 moments too but there is only one that everyone remembers so I don't even need to explain that one, because that is the only time where she was ever relevant.

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 July 2018 - 09:01 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

There's different between being SUPPORTIVE and being a BURDEN , in my opinion being supportive usually have more benefit and less risk while being a burden could end up with someone might died. What hinata did is being a burden to Naruto:
 
Hinata offer her paper to naruto (cheating) :
-Risk : if Naruto accept her offer to cheat and they got caught , naruto will failed the exam, and lose his right to participate in future chunnin exam and forever stay as gennin (technically killing his dream to be hokage because by status there's no way gennin can become hokage), that makes 6 people will forever stay gennin because whoever caught cheating will failed along with all the team member (that makes it naruto, sakura, sasuke, hinata, kiba, shino ... all 6 will forever stay as gennin) it's also kill one of the positive moral message that Naruto said to Konohamaru that there is not shortcut to become Hokage.
 
Hinata try to save Naruto from Pein / Nagato :
Hinata clearly far bellow Pein so her chance to win is zero, she basically have 2 goal , win or at least hold out against pein and free naruto. This is where she didn't use her brain, if you were in Hinata shoes , you know you can't win let alone fight equally solo him , she should at least rally some ninja to aid her , try to free Naruto so he can goes back to fight , create multiple clone/bunshin she can free naruto while her clone hold off pein. No matter how dire the situations as ninja she must maintain her composure and stay calm so she can think.
-Risk : She dies , resulting in Naruto goes berserk , Kyubii consume him meaning his dead , Kyubi goes rampage inside Konoha resulting in MORE people gonna die , pein will either died or be killed in the process , resulting in everyone stays dead (when Nagato suppose to resurrect evereyone).
 
No matter how you look at it 80% of a time Hinata try to help there is always Big risk following it. That is because she never even ONCE try to think the consequence of her actions ... all she can think about is NARUTO-COON, kitten everyone else, all i need is Naruto BIG WARM DI .... I MEAN HAND.

Extecaly right she pretty much doomed everyone in the leaf village in the pain arc had minato not planned ahead and right on the money for cheating thing in the chunin exams at least Sakura was willing to give up so naruto would lose his dream sure sasuke would have been mad but he'd get over it beside itachi' s wasn't an immediate threat at that point. Like to see the fall out if naruto had cheated off hinata and they got caught and barred from the exams. So ya sakura wins here.