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#43741 luffyq1

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:49 PM

If Kishi decided to cash in... don't you think this movie would have been about Sasuke and SS? That's where the real cash would come from, not NH. I think NH was the result of SP and their extreme obsession with her character and VA, nothing to do with Kishi. He's just playing along and coming up with all this because he sold out to them. 

the real revenue comes from the usa, which is why this movie is arriving here so soon. of course he miscalculated because we pirate the kitten out of everything.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:50 PM

The bold line is all the evidence that I need showing that you haven't read a single word that I've written. At no point did I ever express that you should feel pity for Naruto. Once again, the only thing that I have maintained this whole time is that it is unfair for you to lump the blame solely on Naruto without regard for Sakura's own deserved fault. I've said time and time again that it was both their faults, which you've decided to ignore. 

 

So if you want to drop it, that's fine by me, it's not like you've acknowledged anything except what you've wanted to anyway. 

There is so much truth in the bold it hurts. I still can't believe what this series has amounted to in order to prop up a side character with zero relevance to the story. 

What have I blamed Naruto for? Assuming another person's feelings, which he did? 

Yep, I did that and Its true.

For being a kitten by calling her a liar in front of everyone they knew when she was trying to DO the right thing FOR him? when she was being honest?

Yep, I did that too, and In my opinion its true. 

YOUR opinion is that its BOTH their fault. Sorry that your opinion is different then mine, but me maintaining my position is not ignoring you, I'm seeing everything you're saying, I just don't agree. That's like saying in order to see/hear what you are saying I have to DO what you tell me to do. It doesn't work that way.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:50 PM

The bold line is all the evidence that I need showing that you haven't read a single word that I've written. At no point did I ever express that you should feel pity for Naruto. Once again, the only thing that I have maintained this whole time is that it is unfair for you to lump the blame solely on Naruto without regard for Sakura's own deserved fault. I've said time and time again that it was both their faults, which you've decided to ignore. 

 

So if you want to drop it, that's fine by me, it's not like you've acknowledged anything except what you've wanted to anyway. 

There is so much truth in the bold it hurts. I still can't believe what this series has amounted to in order to prop up a side character with zero relevance to the story. 

 

I'm just going to save all the rest of my likes for the day for your posts.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

Completely unrelated to everything that is going on in here, but I just thought I could share this with those who are Studio Ghibli fans:

Hayou Miyazaki

G . I . N . T . A . M .A

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

the real revenue comes from the usa, which is why this movie is arriving here so soon. of course he miscalculated because we pirate the kitten out of everything.

Lol.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:51 PM

What have I blamed Naruto for? Assuming another person's feelings, which he did? 

Yep, I did that and Its true.

For being a kitten by calling her a liar in front of everyone they knew when she was trying to DO the right thing FOR him? when she was being honest?

Yep, I did that too, and In my opinion its true. 

YOUR opinion is that its BOTH their fault. Sorry that your opinion is different then mine, but me maintaining my position is not ignoring you, I'm seeing everything you're saying, I just don't agree. That's like saying in order to see/hear what you are saying I have to DO what you tell me to do. It doesn't work that way.

 

So you have no problem with Sakura calling Naruto a fool? You don't think she was taking advantage of his feelings at all? You don't think Naruto was fair to balk at her unresolved feelings for Sasuke? Feelings we know were still there?

Seems like all you care about is blaming Naruto. That's cool.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:52 PM

How about you bring me what I want and I don't put anymore Ky pictures  :hm:  :P

Seems like we are in a pickle...since I don't know what is it you want..👿 😀

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:52 PM

the real revenue comes from the usa, which is why this movie is arriving here so soon. of course he miscalculated because we pirate the kitten out of everything.

Piracy :zaru:

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:54 PM

 

 

So it's Naruto's fault that his feelings got blown up in front of everybody? So it's Naruto's fault that the only time Sakura ever showed love in front of him was when it was about Sasuke?

 

I never once said that it was ok for Naruto to decide how she felt, but it is damn sure within his rights to challenge her given her history and her sudden change of heart, especially when she told the blatant lie that Sasuke meant nothing to her. 

 

Naruto was wrong for calling her a liar in front of everyone (even though he was justified), but neither was she right for bringing everyone there in the first place. He didn't have the right to tell her how she felt, but nor did she have the right to determine that his feelings were only worth enough for her to manipulate without giving proper thought to them. She should have been straight up with him from the start, as she told Shikimaru she would. Her believing it had do be done doesn't excuse the fact that her actions were just as much wrong as his were. 

 

He was rude, yes, but so was she for determining that his feelings were an outlet for him to be manipulated, no matter the intent behind it. 

 

The only thing that I've maintained this whole time was that neither Sakura or Naruto were right in the way that they approached and handled the situation. They both f**cked up. It is incredibly unfair for you to entirely lump blame on Naruto for a situation he did not start.

 

 

Can I throw my two-cents in? 

Sometimes we do stupid things in order to protect the people we love and people don't always act rationally.

 

Anyway, first things first, I'm not playing any blame game, nobody was to blame for that mess, but I was a bit hurt by Naruto's reaction, understandable as it is, I think it was quite obvious Sakura did what she did (messing up or not, depending on personal opinion) to keep him safe. Does this justify her behavior? I don't know, but what I know is that what she did was a very human and realistic thing and I appreciate her for it.

Speaking from my personal experience and what I understood by reading the 'confession':

I never felt bothered by that confession because I always saw a girl desperately trying, by any means possible (even some that are not 'right' but when we are desperate and trying to protect someone 'wrong' and 'right' become less important than they ought to be) to keep somebody who she loved very much, be it in a platonic or romantic way, from harm.

Personally, and let me stress the personally, her behavior never really bothered me because I understand where it comes from and if facing a similar situation I'd probably do the same, not out of pettiness or with malevolence but because I would want to protect someone I loved. During a so dire situation I'd do everything I could to keep somebody I loved out of harm's way, even something like that, as long as he/she is fine everything else is secondary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, can we please stop squabbling? I find it disquieting.  :umm:

 

 

What have I blamed Naruto for? Assuming another person's feelings, which he did? 

Yep, I did that and Its true.

For being a kitten by calling her a liar in front of everyone they knew when she was trying to DO the right thing FOR him? when she was being honest?

Yep, I did that too, and In my opinion its true. 

YOUR opinion is that its BOTH their fault. Sorry that your opinion is different then mine, but me maintaining my position is not ignoring you, I'm seeing everything you're saying, I just don't agree. That's like saying in order to see/hear what you are saying I have to DO what you tell me to do. It doesn't work that way.

 

*gives a sweet* Let's all calm down shall we? It's a holiday, let us have fun and derp around!  :love:  *huggles*


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:54 PM

Seems like we are in a pickle...since I don't know what is it you want..

You must guess or...its Ky-urtains for you, HAHAHAHA  :sweatdrop:



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:54 PM

the real revenue comes from the usa, which is why this movie is arriving here so soon. of course he miscalculated because we pirate the kitten out of everything.

But isn't it only shown in the big cities?


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:54 PM

What have I blamed Naruto for? Assuming another person's feelings, which he did? 

Yep, I did that and Its true.

For being a kitten by calling her a liar in front of everyone they knew when she was trying to DO the right thing FOR him? when she was being honest?

Yep, I did that too, and In my opinion its true. 

YOUR opinion is that its BOTH their fault. Sorry that your opinion is different then mine, but me maintaining my position is not ignoring you, I'm seeing everything you're saying, I just don't agree. That's like saying in order to see/hear what you are saying I have to DO what you tell me to do. It doesn't work that way.

Let's just move on, as I've said earlier. 

 

I'm just going to save all the rest of my likes for the day for your posts.

Lol there's probably a lot more worthy posts than mine. Wait till tricksie gets back XD (or head over to the tokyo ghoul thread and like all the ones where trang posted TouKen pics  :nosebleed: )


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

 

Can I throw my two-cents in? 

Sometimes we do stupid things in order to protect the people we love and people don't always act rationally.

 

Anyway, first things first, I'm not playing any blame game, nobody was to blame for that mess, but I was a bit hurt by Naruto's reaction, understandable as it is, I think it was quite obvious Sakura did what she did (messing up or not, depending on personal opinion) to keep him safe. Does this justify her behavior? I don't know, but what I know is that what she did was a very human and realistic thing and I appreciate her for it.

Speaking from my personal experience and what I understood by reading the 'confession':

I never felt bothered by that confession because I always saw a girl desperately trying, by any means possible (even some that are not 'right' but when we are desperate and trying to protect someone 'wrong' and 'right' become less important than they ought to be) to keep somebody who she loved very much, be it in a platonic or romantic way, from harm.

Personally, and let me stress the personally, her behavior never really bothered me because I understand where it comes from and if facing a similar situation I'd probably do the same, not out of pettiness or with malevolence but because I would want to protect someone I loved. During a so dire situation I'd do everything I could to keep somebody I loved out of harm's way, even something like that, as long as he/she is fine everything else is secondary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, can we please stop squabbling? I find it disquieting.  :umm:

 

 

 

*gives a sweet* Let's all calm down shall we? It's a holiday, let us have fun and derp around!  :love:  *huggles*

You forgot this picture Lys!!!

 

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

Completely unrelated to everything that is going on in here, but I just thought I could share this with those who are Studio Ghibli fans:

Hayou Miyazaki

that man is a kittening legend and i'm proud that he got to go off into the sunset. he not only puts kishi to shame as a writer, but as a man too. god bless miyazaki!


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

Completely unrelated to everything that is going on in here, but I just thought I could share this with those who are Studio Ghibli fans:

Hayou Miyazaki

Miyazaki...you should've run Studio Pierrot.

Guys...remember when kishimoto said in an interview that Sakura deserved to end up with the best guy & he kept his word.

....

Yeah me either. :zaru:

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:56 PM

 

Can I throw my two-cents in? 

Sometimes we do stupid things in order to protect the people we love and people don't always act rationally.

 

Anyway, first things first, I'm not playing any blame game, nobody was to blame for that mess, but I was a bit hurt by Naruto's reaction, understandable as it is, I think it was quite obvious Sakura did what she did (messing up or not, depending on personal opinion) to keep him safe. Does this justify her behavior? I don't know, but what I know is that what she did was a very human and realistic thing and I appreciate her for it.

Speaking from my personal experience and what I understood by reading the 'confession':

I never felt bothered by that confession because I always saw a girl desperately trying, by any means possible (even some that are not 'right' but when we are desperate and trying to protect someone 'wrong' and 'right' become less important than they ought to be) to keep somebody who she loved very much, be it in a platonic or romantic way, from harm.

Personally, and let me stress the personally, her behavior never really bothered me because I understand where it comes from and if facing a similar situation I'd probably do the same, not out of pettiness or with malevolence but because I would want to protect someone I loved. During a so dire situation I'd do everything I could to keep somebody I loved out of harm's way, even something like that, as long as he/she is fine everything else is secondary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This said, can we please stop squabbling? I find it disquieting.  :umm:

 

 

 

*gives a sweet* Let's all calm down shall we? It's a holiday, let us have fun and derp around!  :love:  *huggles*

 

I am not, nor do I think AHK is, blaming Sakura for her approach to the confession. I think we're both simply saying it's problematic to view that chapter solely through a lens that paints Naruto as an a**hole. If we're talking about responding in "real life" and "genuine" ways, then I think it's possible to understand Naruto's response too. Should he have been more understanding? Absolutely! Was he out of line telling Sakura that she was lying? Definitely. But was his response understandable given the situation? I think so. Were Sakura's feeling complicated and clearly unresolved? Yes! 

 

It was a crappy situation all around. That's it.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:57 PM

Let's just move on, as I've said earlier. 

Lol there's probably a lot more worthy posts than mine. Wait till tricksie gets back XD (or head over to the tokyo ghoul thread and like all the ones where trang posted TouKen pics  :nosebleed: )

 

I haven't read Tokyo Ghoul yet! I'm getting caught up on Fairy Tail, still!!!



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:57 PM

 

So you have no problem with Sakura calling Naruto a fool? You don't think she was taking advantage of his feelings at all? You don't think Naruto was fair to balk at her unresolved feelings for Sasuke? Feelings we know were still there?

Seems like all you care about is blaming Naruto. That's cool.

 

LOL JFC You are really pissed about that "Fool" thing. You know the one where she was "mocking him" through her tears, AMIRITE?

You clearly did not understand that scene at all if you are upset over her calling him a fool. She's sitting there SOBBING and thinking "I always kitten up, I always make mistakes...All I do is hurt Naruto." God damn that Sakura is a total kitten for calling him a fool!

Never mind her lamenting all her kitten ups, all her mistakes, all the things she's done to hurt him.

If she were taking advantage of HIS FEELINGS she would be using them to her advantage. She's not getting anything for HERSELF out of this, she's doing it FOR HIM. 

Literally, could you be anymore wrong about this "Fool" thing? First she called him a "Loser" and was "Mocking" him. GO BACK and read this scene, and you'll understand that her calling him a FOOL is directed more at herself as in "How can this fool love someone as awful as me?" 

Seems to me all you care about is Sakura's "Fool/Loser" and her mocking him. 
 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:58 PM

I don't think alot of people would go watch the movie unless they actually like Naruto, here in Florida, not alot of people like anime or even care from what I've experienced lol

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:59 PM

 

Can I throw my two-cents in? 

Sometimes we do stupid things in order to protect the people we love and people don't always act rationally.

 

Anyway, first things first, I'm not playing any blame game, nobody was to blame for that mess, but I was a bit hurt by Naruto's reaction, understandable as it is, I think it was quite obvious Sakura did what she did (messing up or not, depending on personal opinion) to keep him safe. Does this justify her behavior? I don't know, but what I know is that what she did was a very human and realistic thing and I appreciate her for it.

Speaking from my personal experience and what I understood by reading the 'confession':

I never felt bothered by that confession because I always saw a girl desperately trying, by any means possible (even some that are not 'right' but when we are desperate and trying to protect someone 'wrong' and 'right' become less important than they ought to be) to keep somebody who she loved very much, be it in a platonic or romantic way, from harm.

Personally, and let me stress the personally, her behavior never really bothered me because I understand where it comes from and if facing a similar situation I'd probably do the same, not out of pettiness or with malevolence but because I would want to protect someone I loved. During a so dire situation I'd do everything I could to keep somebody I loved out of harm's way, even something like that, as long as he/she is fine everything else is secondary.

I felt much the same. I didn't have a problem with what she did, but I did feel she could have handled it much better. I also thought that Naruto reacted poorly, but at the same time, I understood him wanting the truth, and not wanting to have her tell him she loved him if she didn't mean it. 

 

The situation was sh*tty and left a lot of things on the table.

 

I haven't read Tokyo Ghoul yet! I'm getting caught up on Fairy Tail, still!!!

 

The current arc in fairy tail is fantastic, I think it's the best one yet. Where are you at?


Edited by AHK, 31 December 2014 - 10:04 PM.

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