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[Gravenimage]

I bet the pokemon Jigglypuff can beat Hinata and it doesn't have to sing to make her fall asleep its slap attack is enough to take her down. 

[VanitasDS76491]

I'm sorry, but....Bold: Ummm....so you tell me there is a reason why they are biased by....giving me no reason at all outside of "Because I said so."
I am going to assume you are a major Goku fanboy. Which I guess it is fine, but blind fandom makes people ignore facts. Just like how NH fans ignore 90% of the facts in the manga because they love Hinata so much.You should know this.
I am a hardcore Superman fan and been a fan of Superman a long time. Everything that they showed in the two videos is exactly what has happened and they backed it up with actual comic book pages. Superman has done things that Goku cannot even fathom and they didn't even show half the things Superman can do.
I am also a Dragonball Z fan....maybe not as much as Superman, but I certainly have seen the series and watch it: which by the way the series has become majorly outrageous and kind of been losing the meaning of the spirit of DBZ now. Remember when Goku actually trained for his power and wasn't just holding hands? Pepperidge farm remembers.
So like I do with everyone else, I will give you a shot to prove to me that Goku can beat Superman and what Superman's powers did they "exaggerate." Keep in mind, I do have panel proof of every power Superman has.
Not like Dragonball Z fanboys exaggerated GOku's powers: cough "He can destroy the universe in three punches" cough
Just to throw this out there. I do believe Saitama can beat Goku as well. Just saying.
 

Hinata beating anyone at this point is ridiculous since she can;t beat anyone in her own universe let alone a crossover.
Although, the idea of Saitama slapping Hinata to death is kind of appealing to me......what? I am sorry, I have no respect for Naruto characters. I know it sounds bad, but I can;t help how I feel. Kishimoto just ruined it all for me.
 
 


Every hero character starts like this.
Superman, Batman, and even Spider-Man.
Does anyone remember the original Spider-Man comics? Peter Parker was a massive jerk when he got his powers AND he thought he was unbeatable. That is until Gwen Stacy died and it shook him to the core. That was the point. When Gwen died it taught him that he is not perfect despite his powers and no matter how smart he is, he can make dumb mistakes....and yet, people will praise Spider-Man like no tomorrow.
http://comicsallianc.../Gwen-Death.png
http://girlsreadcomi...cy-673x1024.jpg
Problem is, people are so busy selectively looking at the wrong stuff.
Read/Watch All-Star Superman and Superman Birthright.
 
 


Oliver Queen, Batman, and even the Flash are much worse in the TV Series and movies than they actually are in the comics. Flash keeps making the same mistakes by reversing time to try and "fix" the past even though several people, including other Flashes, told him not only it is a bad idea, but you're making things worse.
Oliver Queen, aka Green Arrow, is also making the same mistakes over and over and doesn't learn.
Batman is getting dumber as well. Remember how he is called the "world's greatest detective?" Well, when was the last time he actually did some "detective" work. Recently, both Superman and Cyborg have been doing more work over him and yet Batman gets the credit somehow.
However, all this proves is not that the character is boring, but the writers don't have creativity anymore. They keep using the same tricks over and over again.
They are as bad as Kishimoto when portraying these characters properly. I mean, how many times can they use the same problem to hype up drama?
You never see moments like this anymore
[spoiler=''][/spoiler]
or like this[spoiler=''][/spoiler]
Something deep and endearing and more than just catching planes out of the sky or running faster than light.
Instead, now every character says: "Boo hoo, my lover/friend/parents were killed. I am going to mope around forever until some random person tries to tell me off only to repeat the same mistakes when it happens again."
Remember when heroes used to be "heroic?"
This is why One Punch Man is such a breath of fresh air. It may be satire, but it is going back to the roots of real Super heroes.

 
Ya hinata is,kittening worthless anyone can bat her even chopper and usopp from one piece can, I'd like to see her take doflamigo or akainu or whitebeard. No you're entitled to think about the Naruto characters dying I do it too but only for sasuke and hinata and sometimes naruto.
 

I bet the pokemon Jigglypuff can beat Hinata and it doesn't have to sing to make her fall asleep its slap attack is enough to take her down.

She can't even beat a magickrap.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Well I know that I want Hinata to die I mean like James said I hate Hinata so much now just thinking about her makes my blood rise, and her fans just piss me off I mean I saw one guy saying Hinata was right there from chapter 1 and Sakura showed up much later. this just shows how crazy they are right now.

 

Sasuke well he is just a kitten and I think we all want Sasuke to die at this point.

 

with Sakura I just want her to die so that she can be put to rest and no longer dragged into the dirt like Kishi is doing I mean we can all tell he has joined the Sakura hating train. I just want her to be put to rest so she can at least not be pissed on anymore, I just hope one day if any of us do books that we call out Kishi's BS that he has done.

[Bail o' Lies]

in a story a hero is only as interesting as its villain.. in Naruto's case you could say it's Obito since he did so much pain in Naruto's life since he was born and while he did somewhat have a tragic backstory, but his motives weren't necessarily special.. of course Kishi could've done so much better.. then again the second half of Part 2 speaks for its self.

Orochimaru is who people think about when they think of a villain in Naruto. 

[Bail o' Lies]

Honestly I do not think Hinata could even beat Orihime or Nami.

 

Orihime has three shields one that cuts a person in half (yet she rarely has the killing instinct to go through with it), one that can heal any wound, and one that blocks an attack. While Nami has her weather staff.

 

Death Battle:

 

Orihime v. Hinata. Hinata would blind charge forward with her attacks being blocked by the defensive shield. If she after several attacks decides to try going around the shield to hit her and succeeds. Orihime can heal her self. Then cut hinata in half with her attacking shield if she felt she had no other choice.

 

Nami v. Hinata. In theory Nami should not be able to hide with Hinata having the byakugan...but again, its hinata. Most of the time she seems to forget to even use it. So she would spend time fighting Nami mirages while Nami built up a huge cloud to deliver a devastating lighting bolt. It would probably take several since hinata will force herself to continue by thinking about Naruto-kun. But eventually she would go down.

 

Edit: Nami V Orihime for those that are wondering. Nami would probably steal those hair clips the first chance she gets after seeing them in action. If she can she wins. If not it would take awhile but she would still win.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 February 2017 - 10:49 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Well I know that I want Hinata to die I mean like James said I hate Hinata so much now just thinking about her makes my blood rise, and her fans just piss me off I mean I saw one guy saying Hinata was right there from chapter 1 and Sakura showed up much later. this just shows how crazy they are right now.
 
Sasuke well he is just a kitten and I think we all want Sasuke to die at this point.
 
with Sakura I just want her to die so that she can be put to rest and no longer dragged into the dirt like Kishi is doing I mean we can all tell he has joined the Sakura hating train. I just want her to be put to rest so she can at least not be pissed on anymore, I just hope one day if any of us do books that we call out Kishi's BS that he has done.

 
Sakura can't catch a break and it pisses me off When people only bash sakura but not any one else. And oh yah hinata was there from chapter 1 ya sure and Darth Vader is naruto's real father. I hope that to with Sakura kind of age desvers better and I hope hinata is dead. Or kishi could be kittening with us like usual.
 

Orochimaru is who people think about when they think of a villain in Naruto.

 
I say nagato more than orochimaru.
 

Honestly I do not think Hinata could even beat Orihime or Nami.
 
Orihime has three shields one that cuts a person in half (yet she rarely has the killing instinct to go through with it), one that can heal any wound, and one that blocks an attack. While Nami has her weather staff.
 
Death Battle:
 
Orihime v. Hinata. Hinata would blind charge forward with her attacks being blocked by the defensive shield. If she after several attacks decides to try going around the shield to hit her and succeeds. Orihime can heal her self. Then cut hinata in half with her attacking shield if she felt she had no other choice.
 
Nami v. Hinata. In theory Nami should not be able to hide with Hinata having the byakugan...but again, its hinata. Most of the time she seems to forget to even use it. So she would spend time fighting Nami mirages while Nami built up a huge cloud to deliver a devastating lighting bolt. It would probably take several since hinata will force herself to continue by thinking about Naruto-kun. But eventually she would go down.
 
Edit: Nami V Orihime for those that are wondering. Nami would probably steal those hair clips the first chance she gets after seeing them in action. If she can she wins. If not it would take awhile but she would still win.

Ya hinata can't beat orihime or nami keep in mind nami beat miss double finger and I think has more victories and orihime' s clips are very powerful even if orihime is kind or weak. I still say she can't beat chopper or usopp and I know she sure as hell can't beat robin, zoro, luffy, sanji, whitebeard, akaniu, akioji, kizauri, garp, ace, doflagmino, mi hawk, and any one from one piece I'm missing.

[Bail o' Lies]

I say nagato more than orochimaru.

  Ya hinata can't beat orihime or nami keep in mind nami beat miss double finger and I think has more victories and orihime' s clips are very powerful even if orihime is kind or weak. I still say she can't beat chopper or usopp and I know she sure as hell can't beat robin, zoro, luffy, sanji, whitebeard, akaniu, akioji, kizauri, garp, ace, doflagmino, mi hawk, and any one from one piece I'm missing.

For people that watched part two maybe but for most it still orichimaru.

 

It not even a matter of power in most cases it a matter of how she fights. Either she is deer in headlight or reckless charge (even in the anime.) You don't need to be Sun Tzu to outsmart her in a fight. Which means even if she was the equal to god itself. It wouldn't matter because she wouldn't know what to do with that power other then a blind charge.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 February 2017 - 11:51 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

I've said this before, but my favorite pairing in DBZ has to be Gohan and Vidal especially when it came to some of their more early interactions 

 

 

Like this one: 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen so many people be like Boruto x Sarada =  Gohan and Vidal because Kishi's main influence for Naruto  came from DBZ since GokuxChichi = NH and Vegeta x Bulma = SS... 

 

In my head I'm like hell naah they don't for either of them...

 

If anything I feel that Gohan and Vidal from earlier interactions give me the NaruSaku vibe, and man when I saw this moment it really mirrors when Sakura asks Naruto if she looks more like a woman and Naruto made the dumb shounen protagonist comment...

[Bail o' Lies]

I've said this before, but my favorite pairing in DBZ has to be Gohan and Vidal especially when it came to some of their more early interactions 

 

I've seen so many people be like Boruto x Sarada =  Gohan and Vidal because Kishi's main influence for Naruto  came from DBZ since GokuxChichi = NH and Vegeta x Bulma = SS... 

 

In my head I'm like hell naah they don't for either of them...

 

If anything I feel that Gohan and Vidal from earlier interactions give me the NaruSaku vibe, and man when I saw this moment it really mirrors when Sakura asks Naruto if she looks more like a woman and Naruto made the dumb shounen protagonist comment...

There is a major problem with that analogy Bolt does not have a single trait shared with Gohan...or for that matter most shounen protagonist.

 

But yes GV and NS are very similar because they both fall under the idiot/kind heart boy and the abrasive girl that doesn't want to initially show she developing feeling for the boy. Which is standard shounen tsudere romance.

[VanitasDS76491]

I've said this before, but my favorite pairing in DBZ has to be Gohan and Vidal especially when it came to some of their more early interactions 
 
 
Like this one: 
 

 
 
 
 
I've seen so many people be like Boruto x Sarada =  Gohan and Vidal because Kishi's main influence for Naruto  came from DBZ since GokuxChichi = NH and Vegeta x Bulma = SS... 
 
In my head I'm like hell naah they don't for either of them...
 
If anything I feel that Gohan and Vidal from earlier interactions give me the NaruSaku vibe, and man when I saw this moment it really mirrors when Sakura asks Naruto if she looks more like a woman and Naruto made the dumb shounen protagonist comment...

Final fantasy has better couples even the bad ones have ones like in 13 and its sequel snow and serah are 1,000 Times better than the end naruto couples, others are cloud x tifa, Cecil x Rosa, locke x celes, Zack , aerith, squall x rinoa, zidane x garnet, hell tidus x yuna are better and tidus sucks.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I've said this before, but my favorite pairing in DBZ has to be Gohan and Vidal especially when it came to some of their more early interactions 

 

 

Like this one: 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen so many people be like Boruto x Sarada =  Gohan and Vidal because Kishi's main influence for Naruto  came from DBZ since GokuxChichi = NH and Vegeta x Bulma = SS... 

 

In my head I'm like hell naah they don't for either of them...

 

If anything I feel that Gohan and Vidal from earlier interactions give me the NaruSaku vibe, and man when I saw this moment it really mirrors when Sakura asks Naruto if she looks more like a woman and Naruto made the dumb shounen protagonist comment...

And the episodes around Gohan have also showed how much more like NS they are.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fkgpe1Wmt4&t=127s

Specifically at 1:45 of the second video - this is just like when Naruto and co. first encounter "Tobi" and Hinata reacts like Naruto is dead after he gets kicked into the water by "Tobi" whereas Sakura doesn't even blink, just knowing he's perfectly fine.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

And the episodes around Gohan have also showed how much more like NS they are.





Specifically at 1:45 of the second video - this is just like when Naruto and co. first encounter "Tobi" and Hinata reacts like Naruto is dead after he gets kicked into the water by "Tobi" whereas Sakura doesn't even blink, just knowing he's perfectly fine.

 

Exactly, and as I said, Goku and Chichi tend to be more like Naruto and Sakura as well

[Gravenimage]

Honestly I have never like the Japanese voices in the DB universe especially Goku's. This is the only anime when I say the English voices are better than the original. 

[VanitasDS76491]

Honestly I have never like the Japanese voices in the DB universe especially Goku's. This is the only anime when I say the English voices are better than the original.

Weird because the Japanese actress also voiced young gohan, goten, and bardock and is a girl.

[VanitasDS76491]

I couldn't stomach my food just thinking of The Last. The Last, HANDS DOWN.

Still waiting for the hinata fanboys or fans in general to say she can beat hulk and doomsday and darkseid when she couldn't even last 10 seconds against them and that's being generous. And darkseid has a one hit kill with his omega beams. Or hulk doing to hinata did to Loki in the first avengers movie toward the end with the puny God thing only switch it to puny hyuga.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Still waiting for the hinata fanboys or fans in general to say she can beat hulk and doomsday and darkseid when she couldn't even last 10 seconds against them and that's being generous. And darkseid has a one hit kill with his omega beams. Or hulk doing to hinata did to Loki in the first avengers movie toward the end with the puny God thing only switch it to puny hyuga.

Nawl, I want them to put them against even stronger characters like Superman-Prime, or Kal Kent, and Silver Age Superman.

[Phantom_999]

Still waiting for the hinata fanboys or fans in general to say she can beat hulk and doomsday and darkseid when she couldn't even last 10 seconds against them and that's being generous. And darkseid has a one hit kill with his omega beams. Or hulk doing to hinata did to Loki in the first avengers movie toward the end with the puny God thing only switch it to puny hyuga.

 

No, 10 seconds is a miracle. 1 second is being generous  

[Phantom_999]

I'm sorry, but....



Bold: Ummm....so you tell me there is a reason why they are biased by....giving me no reason at all outside of "Because I said so."

I am going to assume you are a major Goku fanboy. Which I guess it is fine, but blind fandom makes people ignore facts. Just like how NH fans ignore 90% of the facts in the manga because they love Hinata so much.You should know this.

I am a hardcore Superman fan and been a fan of Superman a long time. Everything that they showed in the two videos is exactly what has happened and they backed it up with actual comic book pages. Superman has done things that Goku cannot even fathom and they didn't even show half the things Superman can do.

I am also a Dragonball Z fan....maybe not as much as Superman, but I certainly have seen the series and watch it: which by the way the series has become majorly outrageous and kind of been losing the meaning of the spirit of DBZ now. Remember when Goku actually trained for his power and wasn't just holding hands? Pepperidge farm remembers.

So like I do with everyone else, I will give you a shot to prove to me that Goku can beat Superman and what Superman's powers did they "exaggerate." Keep in mind, I do have panel proof of every power Superman has.

Not like Dragonball Z fanboys exaggerated GOku's powers: cough "He can destroy the universe in three punches" cough

Just to throw this out there. I do believe Saitama can beat Goku as well. Just saying.

 

Hinata beating anyone at this point is ridiculous since she can;t beat anyone in her own universe let alone a crossover.

Although, the idea of Saitama slapping Hinata to death is kind of appealing to me......what? I am sorry, I have no respect for Naruto characters. I know it sounds bad, but I can;t help how I feel. Kishimoto just ruined it all for me.
 

 

Every hero character starts like this.

Superman, Batman, and even Spider-Man.

Does anyone remember the original Spider-Man comics? Peter Parker was a massive jerk when he got his powers AND he thought he was unbeatable. That is until Gwen Stacy died and it shook him to the core. That was the point. When Gwen died it taught him that he is not perfect despite his powers and no matter how smart he is, he can make dumb mistakes....and yet, people will praise Spider-Man like no tomorrow.

http://comicsallianc.../Gwen-Death.png
http://girlsreadcomi...cy-673x1024.jpg

Problem is, people are so busy selectively looking at the wrong stuff.

Read/Watch All-Star Superman and Superman Birthright.
 

 

Oliver Queen, Batman, and even the Flash are much worse in the TV Series and movies than they actually are in the comics. Flash keeps making the same mistakes by reversing time to try and "fix" the past even though several people, including other Flashes, told him not only it is a bad idea, but you're making things worse.

Oliver Queen, aka Green Arrow, is also making the same mistakes over and over and doesn't learn.

Batman is getting dumber as well. Remember how he is called the "world's greatest detective?" Well, when was the last time he actually did some "detective" work. Recently, both Superman and Cyborg have been doing more work over him and yet Batman gets the credit somehow.

However, all this proves is not that the character is boring, but the writers don't have creativity anymore. They keep using the same tricks over and over again.

They are as bad as Kishimoto when portraying these characters properly. I mean, how many times can they use the same problem to hype up drama?

You never see moments like this anymore
[spoiler='']
[/spoiler]

or like this[spoiler='']


[/spoiler]

Something deep and endearing and more than just catching planes out of the sky or running faster than light.

Instead, now every character says: "Boo hoo, my lover/friend/parents were killed. I am going to mope around forever until some random person tries to tell me off only to repeat the same mistakes when it happens again."

Remember when heroes used to be "heroic?"

This is why One Punch Man is such a breath of fresh air. It may be satire, but it is going back to the roots of real Super heroes.
 

 

Have you tried "Boku no Hero Academia" yet Bud?

[TheFirstEvil100]

Honestly I do not think Hinata could even beat Orihime or Nami.

 

Orihime has three shields one that cuts a person in half (yet she rarely has the killing instinct to go through with it), one that can heal any wound, and one that blocks an attack. While Nami has her weather staff.

 

Death Battle:

 

Orihime v. Hinata. Hinata would blind charge forward with her attacks being blocked by the defensive shield. If she after several attacks decides to try going around the shield to hit her and succeeds. Orihime can heal her self. Then cut hinata in half with her attacking shield if she felt she had no other choice.

 

Nami v. Hinata. In theory Nami should not be able to hide with Hinata having the byakugan...but again, its hinata. Most of the time she seems to forget to even use it. So she would spend time fighting Nami mirages while Nami built up a huge cloud to deliver a devastating lighting bolt. It would probably take several since hinata will force herself to continue by thinking about Naruto-kun. But eventually she would go down.

 

Edit: Nami V Orihime for those that are wondering. Nami would probably steal those hair clips the first chance she gets after seeing them in action. If she can she wins. If not it would take awhile but she would still win.

Damn that is cool man but what about Videl vs Hinata?

 

Pan vs both of Hinata's kids at 4 as I would like to know how a death battle like that would go?

 

I've said this before, but my favorite pairing in DBZ has to be Gohan and Vidal especially when it came to some of their more early interactions 

 

 

Like this one: 

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen so many people be like Boruto x Sarada =  Gohan and Vidal because Kishi's main influence for Naruto  came from DBZ since GokuxChichi = NH and Vegeta x Bulma = SS... 

 

In my head I'm like hell naah they don't for either of them...

 

If anything I feel that Gohan and Vidal from earlier interactions give me the NaruSaku vibe, and man when I saw this moment it really mirrors when Sakura asks Naruto if she looks more like a woman and Naruto made the dumb shounen protagonist comment...

Very true man its why I wish someone would do a vid on why that its BS with what they say and how nice a sweet girls should only get the guy, as I am a big Gohan and Videl fan as well as both are deeply in love and no retcons were needed either,

 

Yet people try to also pair Gohan with Hinata at times.

 

There is a major problem with that analogy Bolt does not have a single trait shared with Gohan...or for that matter most shounen protagonist.

 

But yes GV and NS are very similar because they both fall under the idiot/kind heart boy and the abrasive girl that doesn't want to initially show she developing feeling for the boy. Which is standard shounen tsudere romance.

I have to agree but that is what so many pro-enders think and say now and try to use which I hate Gohan is far better than Bolt and the others as he puts his family first hell Pan is better that the daughter who's name I don't want to waste my time on really at all I mean remember the episode that she was flying in space she would own both of Hinata's spawn with ease, and you know what is funny about that?

 

Pan would think of this as nothing more than a game, with how old she is right now which if I were to say she is about a year old now, and she would own Bolt who we all know would be up his own ass thinking he could take her on but it would make him look like more of a kitten for trying to fight a baby hence why I say she fights him when she is 4 years old like we saw at the end of Z.

 

Oh the sweet, sweet irony if she just slapped him on the face and send him flying into a wall face first, Hinata face at seeing a 4 year old do that to Bolt lol.

 

And the episodes around Gohan have also showed how much more like NS they are.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fkgpe1Wmt4&t=127s

Specifically at 1:45 of the second video - this is just like when Naruto and co. first encounter "Tobi" and Hinata reacts like Naruto is dead after he gets kicked into the water by "Tobi" whereas Sakura doesn't even blink, just knowing he's perfectly fine.

Very true which is what I love so much when they bring them into the show as it shows how much Gohan and Videl love each other as well that nothing and I mean nothing will drive them apart, not only that I like how it shows just how much of a better dad Gohan is as well to Pan and a better husband to Videl.

 

The only reason he was doing the film was cause Pan liked it and from what I picked up it turned Videl on lol which is funny as well.

[VanitasDS76491]

No, 10 seconds is a miracle. 1 second is being generous  

 
Hmmm maybe lower mine to 5 seconds, how long can she hold out against the four yonko and seven warlords with doflamigo in them along with law, crocodile at once.
 

Nawl, I want them to put them against even stronger characters like Superman-Prime, or Kal Kent, and Silver Age Superman.

Add thanos with the gauntlet to that mix and galactus, vergil from dmc 3, and sephiroth and alucard from hellsing so he can eat hinata like he did luke. I just said those three cause they are the first one I can think of.
  

Damn that is cool man but what about Videl vs Hinata?
 
Pan vs both of Hinata's kids at 4 as I would like to know how a death battle like that would go?
 

Very true man its why I wish someone would do a vid on why that its BS with what they say and how nice a sweet girls should only get the guy, as I am a big Gohan and Videl fan as well as both are deeply in love and no retcons were needed either,
 
Yet people try to also pair Gohan with Hinata at times.
 

I have to agree but that is what so many pro-enders think and say now and try to use which I hate Gohan is far better than Bolt and the others as he puts his family first hell Pan is better that the daughter who's name I don't want to waste my time on really at all I mean remember the episode that she was flying in space she would own both of Hinata's spawn with ease, and you know what is funny about that?
 
Pan would think of this as nothing more than a game, with how old she is right now which if I were to say she is about a year old now, and she would own Bolt who we all know would be up his own ass thinking he could take her on but it would make him look like more of a kitten for trying to fight a baby hence why I say she fights him when she is 4 years old like we saw at the end of Z.
 
Oh the sweet, sweet irony if she just slapped him on the face and send him flying into a wall face first, Hinata face at seeing a 4 year old do that to Bolt lol.
 

Very true which is what I love so much when they bring them into the show as it shows how much Gohan and Videl love each other as well that nothing and I mean nothing will drive them apart, not only that I like how it shows just how much of a better dad Gohan is as well to Pan and a better husband to Videl.
 
The only reason he was doing the film was cause Pan liked it and from what I picked up it turned Videl on lol which is funny as well.

Videl would kick hinata' s ass since she can still fly I think, pan at 4 vs them who must not named with those two losing badly would be something. Videl and gohan are perfect together right next to Edward and winry, gohan and hinata makes no sense. Pan as a baby fighting bolt and himawari likes it's a game would cool considering what she did to future trunks in the black goku arc it would be awesome with naruto looking embarrassed by his kids losing to a 1 yr old and hinata secretly planning to kill pan cause you know she would. You mean what pan did to wild tiger at the end of z. Gohan actually cares about his family plus his there for videl and pan hell he even goes great saiyaman and acts like an idiot for pan. I'd like to see videl back in her saiyagirl outfit doing this with pan with trying her helmet on in a cute way. Also videl' s not a kittening idiot unlike hinata she knows everything about gohan unlike hinata who knows next to nothing about naruto.