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[Nar123]

  

an ending everyone including people who work with Kishi is a last second BS asspull

AT retcons his endings so many times.

By AT you mean Akira Toryiama? The only thing he retconned was GT and that wasn't even made by his hand.

People who work with Kishi think the ending was BS? We only got word of one producer saying he though it was a bad idea (rumor) however we have the assistant link papa who clearly is a hinata fan and SP who also loves hinata

[Narufan85]

I am not going to feel bad for Naruto. Thats all there is to this. 

Why would I feel bad for Naruto who decided that he knew Sakura's feelings better then SHE herself knew them? Why Would I feel bad for Naruto when he assumed kitten without thinking? 

I never SAID anything about him accepting her confession I have an issue with him calling her a liar. IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. YOU. DON'T. DO. THAT. Its RUDE. rude, rude, rude. He could have pulled her away, he could have said it differently. instead he chose to DECIDE what Sakura felt or did not feel. 

No person has a right to decide how another person feels or does not feel that's why they are feelings AHK. Feelings are not right or wrong unless based on false conceptions. Naruto was in an uncomfortable situation which HE made even MORE uncomfortable

Again you can feel however you like about this scene, this confession, this whatever. My opinion is that Naruto f**cked up and showed his ass, while Sakura got the stink face from everyone because Naruto got to become the "Decider" of how she really felt or did not feel. 

In this situation Sakura was doing what she felt she HAD to do to protect him, to do GOOD for him. Naruto's "Your a liar!
was not for her benefit, or for the greater good.  
 

 

So it's ok for Sakura to mock Naruto's love for her in front of everyone by calling him a loser?

[TouKen4Life3g]

You guys have probably already talked about this but have you seen the gif where Naruto screams Sakuras name and catches her and smiles. Seriously that just broke my heart. Their bond was so awesome.

We did. I even made up a quote that he will join Sakura in names of assasinsted characters and his will come. Thanks, Hinata.

You know, ever since that Japanese fan was like "I'm sick of scarf!!!" I remember how one movie constantly shove the idea of hating whale killers but do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again to the point you actually want to nuke the whale so we will never get anymore of that. I want to ban scarf.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

So it's ok for Sakura to mock Naruto's love for her in front of everyone by calling him a loser?

Oh, Mocking his love ey? 
Thats why she was kittening crying and torn up over it right? Okay then.   There goes that b*tch Sakura again! Goddamn her for trying to save Naruto some pain, bring him home and put the BS to rest!  

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 31 December 2014 - 09:09 PM.

[sushi.]

Kishi during 2013 "Hey all the fans out there who don't like the series, hang in there teh ending is gonna be awesome" 2014 "whoops"

Hahahah, I can't count how many times he said "hang in there" in interviews!

[Narufan85]

Oh, Mocking his love ey? 
Thats why she was kittening crying and torn up over it right? Okay then.   There goes that b*tch Sakura again! Goddamn her for trying to save Naruto some pain, bring him home and put the BS to rest!  

 

I'm not trying to absolve Naruto of wrongdoing. But it's not fair to place all the blame on Naruto.

How do you justify Sakura's comments, then?

 

Isn't it better to say they both made mistakes? And that it's Kishi's failure for never giving us an honest conversation between the two about their feelings? 

Edited by Narufan85, 31 December 2014 - 09:11 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hahahah, I can't count how many times he said "hang in there" in interviews!

I think he was losing fans. It didn't help that Attack on Titan just annihilated it.

[Nar123]

But I think we can come to some agreement that it's unfortunate that in the manga we never get to see Naruto and Sakura have an honest conversation about their feelings without the specter of Sasuke hanging over their heads.

THIS

[Gaara's hair]

Sakura called Naruto a loser??? I thought she called him a fool

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Boo kittening hoo for Naruto, for having someone who is willing to put their "integrity" on the line by making a FOOL out herself to save him some pain. POOR kittening Naruto for having a girl who is willing to KILL someone she loved partially for his sake. DEAR GOD, no wonder Hinata deserves him! Sakura is surely the lowest of the low when she was willing to put herself out there for HIM. 

She surely deserved to be spat in the face like that. 

 

 

 

I'm not trying to absolve Naruto of wrongdoing. But it's not fair to place all the blame on Naruto.

How do you justify Sakura's comments, then?

 

Isn't it better to say they both made mistakes? And that it's Kishi's failure for never giving us an honest conversation between the two about their feelings? 

See above

 

Sakura called Naruto a loser??? I thought she called him a fool

Oh no Clearly Sakura is a MUCH bigger kitten then that. She was laughing the whole time, not crying. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 31 December 2014 - 09:14 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

My last question of the year:

Forget blaming Kishimoto or anyone fourth wall wise. Focus on the story. Now then...Who shall get the most blame: Sasuke or Hinata?

[Narufan85]

Sakura called Naruto a loser??? I thought she called him a fool

You're right. Poor memory.

[Nar123]

Oh, Mocking his love ey? 
Thats why she was kittening crying and torn up over it right? Okay then.   There goes that b*tch Sakura again! Goddamn her for trying to save Naruto some pain, bring him home and put the BS to rest!  

I would say
Sakura's intentions were Good but her method of aproaching the problem was wrong

Naruto's analysis of the situation was right but he was harsh to her

Ultimately the one at falt was Kikitten, he is the one that didn't resolve things between them. I mean after a confession like that i would hope for a talk to settle things between the two.

Edited by Nar123, 31 December 2014 - 09:16 PM.

[Narufan85]

 

Boo kittening hoo for Naruto, for having someone who is willing to put their "integrity" on the line by making a FOOL out herself to save him some pain. POOR kittening Naruto for having a girl who is willing to KILL someone she loved partially for his sake. DEAR GOD, no wonder Hinata deserves him! Sakura is surely the lowest of the low when she was willing to put herself out there for HIM. 

She surely deserved to be spat in the face like that. 

 

 

See above

 

Oh no Clearly Sakura is a MUCH bigger b*tch then that. She was laughing the whole time, not crying. 

 

 

 

Please. Continue to blatantly disregard what I'm actually saying and misinterpret it as some attack on Sakura.

That's not lazy at all. There's obviously no point in having a conversation with you about this. It's obviously all Naruto's fault. He has no reason to believe Sakura isn't still hung up on Sasuke. it's not like she totally ignored him in 699 or anything.

[Jio Freed]

 

By AT you mean Akira Toryiama? The only thing he retconned was GT and that wasn't even made by his hand.

 

lol you clearly have been left out of the loop

-King Kai having a planet by the end of the series

-Bibidi finding Buu as oppose to creating him

-Literally every single time a new type of god is introduced retcons the other one claiming to be the strongest same with overseeing "everything" turns out there's always someone higher than them overseeing more

- It has been proven time and again that AT wanted to end the series but kept being forced to continue it (23rd Budokai, Frieza saga and the Cell saga was meant to be an ending it even had an epilogue then the Buu saga now we have movies)

- The SSJ multipliers going from x50 to x3

- AT wrote a small GT manga and even approved it, everything in BOG is contradicting GT
- The super saiyan levels, AT said himself referred to Gohan fighting Cell as "A super saiyan level 5" but then the idea came up to make another transofrmation so he just decided to re-number it 2 and then forget all about what the ascended levels Vegeta and Trunks accomplished.

- Piccolo was a demon, then he became an alien

- Saiyans were killed by a meteor shower by their own Planet's Kami, even King Kai confirmed it then it was changed to Frieza to make his villain status more personal

-Vegeta knew about Beerus yet always was and stated to be afraid of Frieza because he thought he was the most dangerous person in the universe

-The Kais have been there since the beginning of time and created with the universe, this was changed to them being kittening apples grown from a tree

[rocci]

The sakura lie in her confession is when sakura said she doesn't love sasuke anymore. That's when naruto think sakura is lied.

The purpose of sakura confession is to release naruto from his promise and to take the hate from naruto after sakura killed sasuke. I think.

The problem is many people see it as a bad move since they saw sakura as a liar who use naruto feeling to fit her own purpose. Which affect on her popularity to the point kishi need her Eventhought in the end he give up on her.

That's why we never get resolution for that confession in the manga. Because any talk between naruto and sakura will lead to naruto confessing his feeling.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

 

Please. Continue to blatantly disregard what I'm actually saying and misinterpret it as some attack on Sakura.

That's not lazy at all. There's obviously no point in having a conversation with you about this. It's obviously all Naruto's fault. He has no reason to believe Sakura isn't still hung up on Sasuke. it's not like she totally ignored him in 699 or anything.

Mhmm sure okay. 

You can ignore everything I've said too. You even assumed that she said "Loser" and was "mocking" him which is completely contradictory to what ACTUALLY happened. So whose the lazy one again?  

Certainly not me. 

 

I would say
Sakura's intentions were Good but her method of aproaching the problem was wrong

Naruto's analysis of the situation was right but he was harsh to her

Ultimately the one at falt was Kikitten, he is the one that didn't resolve things between them. I mean after a confession like that i would hope for a talk to settle things between the two.

Look, All I'm saying is that Naruto doesn't NEED or deserve my pity in this scene SAKURA Does considering she was crucified on ALL SIDES for it. I'm not about to throw a pity party for poor kittening Naruto when she was doing what she could to save him AND was being honest on top of it all. 

[Nar123]

  

lol you clearly have been left out of the loop

-King Kai having a planet by the end of the series

-Bibidi finding Buu as oppose to creating him

-Literally every single time a new type of god is introduced retcons the other one claiming to be the strongest same with overseeing "everything" turns out there's always someone higher than them overseeing more

- It has been proven time and again that AT wanted to end the series but kept being forced to continue it (23rd Budokai, Frieza saga and the Cell saga was meant to be an ending it even had an epilogue then the Buu saga now we have movies)

- The SSJ multipliers going from x50 to x3

- AT wrote a small GT manga and even approved it, everything in BOG is contradicting GT
- The super saiyan levels, AT said himself referred to Gohan fighting Cell as "A super saiyan level 5" but then the idea came up to make another transofrmation so he just decided to re-number it 2 and then forget all about what the ascended levels Vegeta and Trunks accomplished.

- Piccolo was a demon, then he became an alien

- Saiyans were killed by a meteor shower by their own Planet's Kami, even King Kai confirmed it then it was changed to Frieza to make his villain status more personal

-Vegeta knew about Beerus yet always was and stated to be afraid of Frieza because he thought he was the most dangerous person in the universe

-The Kais have been there since the beginning of time and created with the universe, this was changed to them being kittening apples grown from a tree

I didn't really knew about this at all XD
Still i find it difficult for them to change the ending. It's possible though i guess

But I wouldn't get my hopes up

Edited by Nar123, 31 December 2014 - 09:21 PM.

[rocci]

My last question of the year:

Forget blaming Kishimoto or anyone fourth wall wise. Focus on the story. Now then...Who shall get the most blame: Sasuke or Hinata?

Why not both?

[Narufan85]

Mhmm sure okay. 
You can ignore everything I've said too. You even assumed that she said "Loser" and was "mocking" him which is completely contradictory to what ACTUALLY happened. So whose the lazy one again?  
Certainly not me. 
 


Look, All I'm saying is that Naruto doesn't NEED or deserve my pity in this scene SAKURA Does considering she was crucified on ALL SIDES for it. I'm not about to throw a pity party for poor kittening Naruto when she was doing what she could to save him AND was being honest on top of it all.

Right. And I have already acknowledged my error. "Fool" isn't much better.

Beyond that, I'm done here. You show no desire to discuss this in good faith.

Edited by Narufan85, 31 December 2014 - 09:23 PM.