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[Phantom_999]

HEY!!! how long do you think it will take before Naruto and Sakura marry!? state your opinion don't be shy!

[Anguyen92]

^^ I'll give it two years, after they offically become canon, I expect to see the typical romance, dates, movies, shooting the breeze, romantic dinner, etc before they get married.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I give them half a year then they will get married.

[Super Boom]

This might be more of a question for the 540 thread, but I thought I'd bring it up here, since it might be important as far as shipping goes (that and the fact that this thread's running dry).

My random thought/question is actually about the Hinata panel. I guess it's probably nothing, but I noticed that her thought bubble was actually comprised of two images of Naruto. It looks he's standing in the same spot in both panels, but he has somewhat opposing expressions in the two panels, almost as if she's remembering a specific scene in the past. Does anyone think this is the case, or is it more likely just some random thought on her part?
I guess I was originally wondering why she would even have a two-panel thought bubble if no dialogue was exchanged, but I suppose it's possible Kishi was just lazy that week, and was trying to fill as much space as possible. It would be interesting, though, if maybe he was originally planning to have a flashback there, but his editor talked him out of it for one reason or another. It could be the case that the NaruHina pairing has been resolved already, but Kishi's editor(s) want NS or NH fans to keep reading.

Anyway, I'm probably way overthinking that panel, but I thought I'd put it out there. It seems like so many people were talking about Sakura's panel that the Hinata one just seemed way less important at the time. Either way, feel free to ignore this post if it seems like a silly thought.

EDIT: In response to the marriage question, I don't even know if they'll get married. They mention fathers/mothers all the time, but I don't recall any specific mention of marriages in the Naruto Universe. With Asuma and Kurenai, Kurenai became pregnant before anyone even knew of their relationship, and it seems like no one really judged her for having a child out of wedlock. I guess I assumed it was more of a feudal Japanese 'settle down and start a family' sort of thing. But I guess I don't really know too much on the subject.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 28 June 2011 - 12:01 AM.

[bthug]

This pic from the same artist amazes me even more: The best NaruSaku pic I've ever seen

I actually thought something like this would happen, or vice versa.

^^ I'll give it two years, after they offically become canon, I expect to see the typical romance, dates, movies, shooting the breeze, romantic dinner, etc before they get married.

Do u really think that? U think they'll be canon and show stuff as them as a couple? I figured thet would be canon right before the final fight with sasuke then flash forward to a time when they r married.

[Anguyen92]

Well, you know I mean, I know that they won't actually show that but I meant like in a sense that it's canon and flash-forward two years and blamo, but you know in the sense of uhhh, I don't know what the hell I was talking about.

Edited by anguyen92, 28 June 2011 - 02:05 AM.

[tricksie]

This might be more of a question for the 540 thread, but I thought I'd bring it up here, since it might be important as far as shipping goes (that and the fact that this thread's running dry).

My random thought/question is actually about the Hinata panel. I guess it's probably nothing, but I noticed that her thought bubble was actually comprised of two images of Naruto. It looks he's standing in the same spot in both panels, but he has somewhat opposing expressions in the two panels, almost as if she's remembering a specific scene in the past. Does anyone think this is the case, or is it more likely just some random thought on her part?
I guess I was originally wondering why she would even have a two-panel thought bubble if no dialogue was exchanged, but I suppose it's possible Kishi was just lazy that week, and was trying to fill as much space as possible. It would be interesting, though, if maybe he was originally planning to have a flashback there, but his editor talked him out of it for one reason or another. It could be the case that the NaruHina pairing has been resolved already, but Kishi's editor(s) want NS or NH fans to keep reading.

Anyway, I'm probably way overthinking that panel, but I thought I'd put it out there. It seems like so many people were talking about Sakura's panel that the Hinata one just seemed way less important at the time. Either way, feel free to ignore this post if it seems like a silly thought.

I think it's an interesting point. Sakura's mental image is definitely a readjusted picture of Sasuke. Meaning it's not from a specific memory. Basically, she recognizes him as an enemy, someone she no longer knows and someone who is threatening to her/others she loves.

But Hinata's seems to be from a certain memory. But that memory must be fairly old: how long ago was he in Konoha and happy enough to be out goofing around and laughing on the street? I know others have a better grasp on the timeline, but it's been a while. I would say this is another passive Hinata type of thought about Naruto. She's not picturing him realistically — she's still seeing this happy kid she worships from afar.

To contrast it, imagine what Sakura would think if someone asked her to reserve her strength and she said she was fighting to keep Naruto safe. Would her mental image be of him happy on a some Konoha street?

To me, her concern for him has always been very real and in the moment. She doesn't want him to be hurt (4-tails kyuubi), she doesn't want him to be upset about Tsunade, she worries about the Akatsuki going after him, she doesn't want him to pursue Sasuke. So I think the mental image she would be driven by her darkest fears. If Sakura said she was fighting to keep him safe, her mind would leap ahead to all the things he has to fight against, in the here-and-now. Not keeping him on a pedestal.

And I don't think it's overthinking about backgrounds, etc. Kishimoto chose to illustrate it a certain way. What he draws transcends language barriers. So it's interesting and worthwhile to take a closer look at the choices he makes when showing the characters. It can shed light on other aspects of the story.

[Phantom_999]

Hmm well actually I did not dwell on it too much on it its not relevant to NS anyway but good insight though guys

[bthug]

So I just found out theirs another kiss between Naruto and sasuke, that makes two maybe we will get a yaoi ending
its actually insane how theirs been two kisses in a shonen manga with two guys....why kishi keeps doing it is beyond me

[catsi563]

mmmmm nope only one kiss and that was a complete accident, and furthermore done in a comedic context.

the only other kiss to Naruto has come from Tsunade.

[Super Boom]

@tricksie: Great input. I definitely think Sakura's feelings for Naruto outweigh anything else, it's just that the fact that Kishi used two different pictures of Naruto in Hinata's mental image seemed odd to me. At first, it's a picture of him looking surprised/confused, then he's giving his usual smile. As I said, it could be him trying to fill space, but it seems bigger than that. I feel like Hinata's flashing back to a specific moment, like Naruto still sees her as some girl, then, "Oh hey, Hinata!"

But, as you said, it's interesting to think how Hinata and Sakura's mental pictures of Naruto would differ. Hinata admires Naruto, while Sakura seems like the one to truly understand him. I also think her image of Sasuke might be attached to that. I guess I've never thought about the Sasuke image from that perspective before.

So I just found out theirs another kiss between Naruto and sasuke, that makes two maybe we will get a yaoi ending
its actually insane how theirs been two kisses in a shonen manga with two guys....why kishi keeps doing it is beyond me

The second kiss wasn't in the manga, it was in a filler episode. Probably one of the worst of the Konoha History Arc in my opinion. I mean seriously, the whole episode was the cliche 'stuck together' episode where Naruto and Sasuke had to learn to fight while their hands were stuck together. I mean, really, could the anime team have picked a worse idea for an episode? On top of that, we had to deal with Sakura's fangirling and Naruto having to urinate in public. *facepalm*

I really hope Kishi fires the current anime team. Some of this crap is just unbearable.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 28 June 2011 - 04:48 AM.

[bthug]

mmmmm nope only one kiss and that was a complete accident, and furthermore done in a comedic context.

the only other kiss to Naruto has come from Tsunade.

Well I wasnt being serious and I realize it was for comedy.

And thats good to here that it was filler.

[Darth Krypt]

Well we haven't seen one wedding in the manga's current timeline. The only couple that got together during was Asuma/Kurenai and they didn't get married or maybe secretively. I assume all other marriages weren't shown because it wasn't really necessary for the story. I guess it doesn't matter if they get married, just that they got together in the end and have lotsa babies!

[ciardha]

Well we haven't seen one wedding in the manga's current timeline. The only couple that got together during was Asuma/Kurenai and they didn't get married or maybe secretively. I assume all other marriages weren't shown because it wasn't really necessary for the story. I guess it doesn't matter if they get married, just that they got together in the end and have lotsa babies!

Kurenai was wearing a wedding ring in the scene where Shikamaru was talking to her in the cemetery, so a secret marriage was highly likely. It could be wedding ceremonies are generally small and very private if not secret. I know weddings in Japan tend to be small and pretty private- only attended by family and closest friends. It's the reception that is open to more people. This is what Kishimoto would be familiar with. He may have them not have receptions in Naruto's world.

[sardns]

I'm not sure if I've said this already in any earlier arguments, so I'm sorry if I did, but there's one rather big reason Hinata and Naruto hooking up would be implausible that nobody ever seems to bring up: Naruto would never be accepted in the Hyuga household. Now westerners may look down upon inter-family relations like cousin marriages, but they're legal and not all that uncommon in Japan (as far as I understand). All the Hyuga family members are probably marrying within the family to ensure the byakugan trait stays strong and doesn't get passed on to outsiders. Hinata is the heiress to the Hyuga family, meaning she'll probably end up in an arranged marriage. So unless Hinata is willing to be an outcast of her family (and end up being killed since the clan won't want HinataXNaruto babies running around with the byakugan), she'll never have sexual relations with a non-clan member.

[Gravenimage]

I'm not sure if I've said this already in any earlier arguments, so I'm sorry if I did, but there's one rather big reason Hinata and Naruto hooking up would be implausible that nobody ever seems to bring up: Naruto would never be accepted in the Hyuga household. Now westerners may look down upon inter-family relations like cousin marriages, but they're legal and not all that uncommon in Japan (as far as I understand). All the Hyuga family members are probably marrying within the family to ensure the byakugan trait stays strong and doesn't get passed on to outsiders. Hinata is the heiress to the Hyuga family, meaning she'll probably end up in an arranged marriage. So unless Hinata is willing to be an outcast of her family (and end up being killed since the clan won't want HinataXNaruto babies running around with the byakugan), she'll never have sexual relations with a non-clan member.

Yep I have already mentioned this dozens of times this is the main reason why NH will NEVER happen but their fans shrugged it aside like it doesn't matter. Knowing Hinata's character she will never become an outcast just so she can have a chance to be with Naruto because she's the silent obedient type she will never disobey her father. Not to mention that getting her father's acknowledgement is the reason why she has been training hard she wants to become a strong heiress for the clan.

Edited by Gravenimage, 28 June 2011 - 04:48 PM.

[Anguyen92]

I'm not sure if I've said this already in any earlier arguments, so I'm sorry if I did, but there's one rather big reason Hinata and Naruto hooking up would be implausible that nobody ever seems to bring up: Naruto would never be accepted in the Hyuga household. Now westerners may look down upon inter-family relations like cousin marriages, but they're legal and not all that uncommon in Japan (as far as I understand). All the Hyuga family members are probably marrying within the family to ensure the byakugan trait stays strong and doesn't get passed on to outsiders. Hinata is the heiress to the Hyuga family, meaning she'll probably end up in an arranged marriage. So unless Hinata is willing to be an outcast of her family (and end up being killed since the clan won't want HinataXNaruto babies running around with the byakugan), she'll never have sexual relations with a non-clan member.

Huzah, that's is proof enough, close it down, book it, brick it, yeah. That's basically it, unless Hinata would do something totally out of bounce like that, then it not's gonna happen.

Edited by anguyen92, 28 June 2011 - 04:51 PM.

[Darth Krypt]

I bet their arguments would be like love conquers anything, forbidden love, that kind of stuff.

[Anguyen92]

^ OMG, if that actually happens, then the story is getting way out of bounce, because for that to happen there needs to be a a better development if there is one, I know it's none but still. (not being angry with you, just being angry with the thought.)

Edited by anguyen92, 28 June 2011 - 05:20 PM.

[Super Boom]

I'm not sure if I've said this already in any earlier arguments, so I'm sorry if I did, but there's one rather big reason Hinata and Naruto hooking up would be implausible that nobody ever seems to bring up: Naruto would never be accepted in the Hyuga household. Now westerners may look down upon inter-family relations like cousin marriages, but they're legal and not all that uncommon in Japan (as far as I understand). All the Hyuga family members are probably marrying within the family to ensure the byakugan trait stays strong and doesn't get passed on to outsiders. Hinata is the heiress to the Hyuga family, meaning she'll probably end up in an arranged marriage. So unless Hinata is willing to be an outcast of her family (and end up being killed since the clan won't want HinataXNaruto babies running around with the byakugan), she'll never have sexual relations with a non-clan member.

Well, I wouldn't say that's the biggest argument against NaruHina. I mean considering he's the hero of the village, I'd like to think Hiashi would now be willing to allow Naruto into the clan. If saving the village, defeating Madara, bringing peace to the ninja world, and becoming Hokage still isn't enough to make Naruto worthy of marrying their heiress, I think the Hyuuga clan elders really need to take that ceremonial stick out of their bums.
That being said, if Hinata ends up with anyone, I think it's more likely to be an arranged marriage with Neji or some unnamed clan member, or maybe even one with Kiba. Although it seems like both Kiba and Neji knew about Hinata's feelings for Naruto at the end of Part 1, and neither really seemed jealous, so I don't know. I'm guessing her husband's not going to be shown at the end, and we'll see her as the new head of the Hyuuga clan. That way she'll have improved herself and earned her family's respect, and her character won't be left completely unfulfilled in the epilogue.

By the way, I love the GS sig.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 28 June 2011 - 08:36 PM.