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#4321 luffyq1

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:20 PM

I can always hope :sweatdrop:I vote for Ino & Hinata, since Sakura's taken.

Sakura & Ino seems better since they already have a developed relationship.


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Sakura & Ino seems better since they already have a developed relationship.

Yep.Maybe it's just me but Hinata is the last girl out of k11 that Sakura interacts.


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:27 PM

Yeah everyone can hope. :umm: Nah...Threesome is better. :th_yeah: InoSakuHina. :hehehe:  :chuckle:

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:28 PM

Yep.Maybe it's just me but Hinata is the last girl out of k11 that Sakura interacts.

I always thought it was 10 10.


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:33 PM

Sakura & Ino seems better since they already have a developed relationship.

I'd like SakuIno or SakuHina better than InoHina, but NaruSaku will probably be canon, so she's out.

Yeah everyone can hope. :umm: Nah...Threesome is better. :th_yeah: InoSakuHina. :hehehe:  :chuckle:

Lol, that could work too. TenTen should also be in, can't forget about her.
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Posted 13 September 2014 - 10:35 PM

I always thought it was 10 10.

Team gai and team kakashi have a good relationship so girls get along well but Sakura and Hinata ...I mean it's forced in my opinion. I see SS-NH fanarts with Sakura Hinata being bestfriends.It is unlikeable to me.


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 11:43 PM

Team gai and team kakashi have a good relationship so girls get along well but Sakura and Hinata ...I mean it's forced in my opinion. I see SS-NH fanarts with Sakura Hinata being bestfriends.It is unlikeable to me.

Has Sakura and 10 10 ever interact in the series?


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 11:48 PM

Has Sakura and 10 10 ever interact in the series?

Yeah of course.Maybe not much like Ino or Hinata but they interact.Ino is her bestfriend.TenTen and Sakura had mission together(Gaara rescue).But Hinata I dunno maybe because of Hinata's shyness they don't seem to interact more.But still in my opinion she's the last girl.


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 11:53 PM

Yeah of course.Maybe not much like Ino or Hinata but they interact.Ino is her bestfriend.TenTen and Sakura had mission together(Gaara rescue).But Hinata I dunno maybe because of Hinata's shyness they don't seem to interact more.But still in my opinion she's the last girl.


Hinata Sakura and Ino interact.
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Posted 13 September 2014 - 11:57 PM

You have slightly misunderstood me in here my point was that The Amaterasu already hit Obito but didn't even penetrated Obito's skin bc of the Onmyoudou which stated by Sarutobi even surpasses any KKG so it works like that

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There was no dust shown in the panels you posted. Not even the residue from Hiruzen's reanimated body when he was attacked by Onmyoudon appeared like ash. Obito was a mindless personification of the Jubi who couldn't manage the element's disintegrative perk all too efficiently. It's the reason for Hiruzen surviving contact with that substance. Jinton, the element's comparison partner, never left any trace of the thing that it came into contact with. That's because it works by influencing molecules and breaking things into their basic building blocks.
 

furthermore you can see how the Onmyoudou passes trough Obito's body since it comes from him bc his body consists of it and does him no harm  and it doesn't extract the flames  but he turns the ninjutsu attacks into dust immediately (even though he could possibly extract it by letting the Onmyoudou go trough his hand ) but there is no reason for extraction  since Amaterasu cant penetrate the body bc of the Onmyoudou which acts even faster then the Amaterasu disintegrating process .


Every ninjutsu has its chakra sculpted by shape and nature manipulation before its either projected externally or is released through the mouth.

There's no dust visible in any of the panels you provided. In one, Obito is shown within an encasement of Amaterasu. His Gudodama are acting as barricades to prevent the flames from reaching him. But following that, the manga only depicts Obito as having escaped with evidence of the flames still circling him. I think this proves that Onmyoudon is not a spongelike substance that draws attacks inward.

Some variations of Onmyoudon are harmless (or less harmful) both to the wielder and its intended victim. Obito isn't the first to not be disintegrated by rod-shaped attacks when he came into contact with it.

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Techniques appear in a conical shape in the area of the mouth that cause no damage to the user, despite their close proximity to the attack. Coincidentally, Obito projected Onmyoudon through his hand with a similar motion. It doesn't mean that he's impervious to the harshest renderings of that element. An intentionally nonlethal tip that acts as nothing more than a handle for someone to take a hold of is obviously not in the same danger as whoever/whatever is having the Onmyoudon directed at them in the shape of a weapon.
 

You are going by the assumption that Amaterasu can penetrate into the body when we have seen the opposite bc the effects of the Onmyoudou are instant and negates the ninjutsu atacks immediately.


No assumptions. I'm basing my opinions on the potency of Amaterasu (something which I've already gone over several times now), the discrepancy between lethal and nonlethal releasing of Onmyoudon, and the lack of any suction properties that would physically attract jutsu.
 

Mind you Obito was hit with a Amaterasu Rasen Shuriken which should make that attack and the Amaterasu even more deadlier and it failed furthermore even Tobirama states that that kind of an  attack doesn't work even if they hit him but only Senjutsu attacks . Judging by this and since Naruto has the same power Amaterasu should pose no problem or be the cause for his bandaged hand in this movie .[q

 
Go reread the above responces. They explain the discrepancies between Onmyoudon weapons and tools that are not intended to kill. Naruto's abilities are incomparable with Amaterasu. His techniques do not corrode away at skin and flesh. Onmyoudon disintegrates, it doesn't scorch or incinerate. Amaterasu still poses a very significant threat to Naruto. His only means for extracting it, excluding self-mutilation, would entail bits and pieces of himself becoming disintegrated. He should be strong enough to heal himself. But if the arm is too badly damaged or if it's removed then he's taking away the only known method for restoring the limb.
 

Some of this I explained it above. As for the surgical procedure it doesn't matter in here bc we have no showings of doing surgical procedures in the manga bc that is irrelevant in the grand scheme  all we need to know is that  there is a way and a jutsu that can repair, negate or heal any of those injuries in general , you can't expect for Kishi to show us a surgical procedure bc this isn't a manga about medics so he's not gonna go that deep  he only gives the means for that solution that it can be achieved  its simple as that .

Tsunade healing Lee its the same all you need to know that there is way


So what you're saying is that the removal of irremovable flames that are eating into an arm doesn't require an explanation because it doesn't have to make sense? You do need to try and support your argument with some substance. When you're discussing the properties of a jutsu, you use the information that has been laid out in the manga, until Kishi has proven otherwise.
 

and there is a jutsu he doesn't specify it the injury he states that in general that it works for every tissue and bone structure nothing more nothing less . Besides that there is no reason to doubt Tsundae's technique and how it was performed she's even though we haven't seen them she has already been acknowledged as the best medic  NV she's very much capable of doing any kind of surgery ,after all she even had the means to bring back Oro's arms by performing medical ninjutsu I doubt something like this will pose a problem to her .


You mean when her technique fails to leave her and her apprentice completely unblemished even when the technique is currently active? Or when Tsunade's legs were separated from her and Katsuyu opted to reattach them instead of the Byakguou easily sprouting replacements? There's not much to prove that this regeneration technique has that capacity except a boastful quote made during Part 1 and a few sentences from the Databook. Generally, I'm in favour of using the information from these old sources, but given the absence of feats and the possibility that there might be limits when two characters with very similar regenerative powers failed to spawn appendages when their limbs were removed, I have to assume that Byakugou is not perfect with its healing abilities.

The possibility that Naruto's arm could be left scarred from scar tissue remains the same.
 

Yes that one though he was already wrapped up in Amaterasu as well as that tentacle so I doubt  the tentacle wasn't damaged . I don't know how exactly that jutsu works either its complicated but since he has the means I don't think it would differ after all no parts of Bee were missing even with tentacle being chopped I guess in this case its the Bijuu that takes the full hit  but it's an option .


The part that Bee escaped into was removed before Amaterasu could spread to it. He used a clone jutsu to escape, simple as that.

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Naruto has used ink in a Rasenshuriken before. Sprouting tentacles from the body is only possible when entering into a partial or full bijuu transformation. Unfortunately, Naruto only has a fragment of Gyuki's chakra. He might be able to use the chakra tailed modes. They don't create real octopus tentacles though. His personal bijuu mode is a hallowed out avatar of the Kyuubi, not a flesh and blood replica. Naruto could siphon off the chakra that is exposed in flames, but it doesn't address how Naruto escapes when the flames are already on his own person.
 

They did? Then why others are saying that there are still there despite that ?


Because they retained the powers given to them by Hagoromo? Their dominant arm belongs to them still. The seals used to imprison Kaguya are gone, and that's it. They have the chakra nodes in their hands. It can still channel their techniques.
 

But never mind that  since my original point was the only option if Naruto's hand was caught in Amaterasu it to cut it of or remove the flames quickly  so the former isn't since he still has that hand in the movie and the latter wouldn't cause a great damage .


I agree that it's not very likely for Naruto to have an arm cut off. But it doesn't mean that he couldn't have suffered some scars or permanent damage.
 

Also Naruto may contains fragments of their chakra but the power and abilities is still the same I see no problem in here  he was as powerful as Obito if not even more since he used the Bijuu's abilities to his advantage again I see no problem in here .


Kinkau and Ginkaku also retained fragments of bijuu chakra. Could they transform into a full-fledged replicas of the Kyuubi? No. Just the regular tailed-modes were achievable to them. Naruto has never used any of Gyuki's abilities besides the ink and that melded into his Rasenshuriken, it wasn't a separate jutsu. Achieving the tentacle clone effect has only ever been possible with a bijuu transformation. Should Kishi backtrack on his portrayal of the Gold and Silver borthers, I'll concede the point that Naruto can escape Amaterasu when he's using the form of Gyuki, but not when the flames are already on his human form.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:00 AM

Yeah of course.Maybe not much like Ino or Hinata but they interact.Ino is her bestfriend.TenTen and Sakura had mission together(Gaara rescue).But Hinata I dunno maybe because of Hinata's shyness they don't seem to interact more.But still in my opinion she's the last girl.

As far as talking with each other goes I believe Hinata and Sakura have talked more to each other than Sakura and 10 10. There was the pain arc and the war arc.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:04 AM

Sakura & Ino are the closest out of the girls. They make it seem like Tenten & Hinata are kinda close in the anime. Other than that, Sakura's the only girl who seems to have a relationship with most people.
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:08 AM

Sakura & Ino are the closest out of the girls. They make it seem like Tenten & Hinata are kinda close in the anime. Other than that, Sakura's the only girl who seems to have a relationship with most people.

Is her relationship with Chiyo deeper than with Ino or just the same?


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:08 AM

As far as talking with each other goes I believe Hinata and Sakura have talked more to each other than Sakura and 10 10. There was the pain arc and the war arc.

Well yeah you're right.They talk more than Sakura and TenTen.But I mean...anyways.

 

Sakura & Ino are the closest out of the girls. They make it seem like Tenten & Hinata are kinda close in the anime. Other than that, Sakura's the only girl who seems to have a relationship with most people.

Yep.Their teams also are close too.Team 7&Team 10.Shika-Naruto are close friends,Ino-Sakura are besties.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:28 AM

Is her relationship with Chiyo deeper than with Ino or just the same?

I'd say her relationship with Ino is deeper... She's the one who made her come out of her shell and become stronger, they've been friends since they were little kids (albeit they're probably not as close as when they were like six, but that's natural). Chiyo definitely did deeply impact Sakura though, and in such a short time.. I loved their scenes together,

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:35 AM

Here's my theory on The Last:

 

The very last chapter of the manga shows NaruSaku married and Naruto Hokage with kids while showing where everyone else is. So what The Last is the in-between period after Part 2 and the official epilogue. That way, the end of Naruto isn't revealed in a movie and just provides further explanation for the epilogue. If you really want to connect them, I can see one of the closing scenes of the movie being Sakura telling Naruto she's pregnant with their first child. She doesn't look pregnant in the sketches so if that translation of the narrator has any significance this might work.

 

But the pregnant argument is shaky and I'm not sure if the narrator comment means anything. One thing I can say though is that this movie definitely feels like a in-between period.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:50 AM

Is her relationship with Chiyo deeper than with Ino or just the same?

I see Chiyo's and Sakura relationship kinda like Sakura & Tsunade's . Of course Sakura & Tsunade are closer, but Chiyo did have a pretty big influence on her, even though it was short-lived. Sakura & Ino reminds me of sisters who may argue most of the time when they see each other, but still love and care for each other greatly no matter what happens between them.
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Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:51 AM

@romance
The neo team seven scene is always my head canon for naruto ending.
Naruto the hokage watch his son join the new team.

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Posted 14 September 2014 - 02:12 AM

Here's my theory on The Last:

 

The very last chapter of the manga shows NaruSaku married and Naruto Hokage with kids while showing where everyone else is. So what The Last is the in-between period after Part 2 and the official epilogue. That way, the end of Naruto isn't revealed in a movie and just provides further explanation for the epilogue. If you really want to connect them, I can see one of the closing scenes of the movie being Sakura telling Naruto she's pregnant with their first child. She doesn't look pregnant in the sketches so if that translation of the narrator has any significance this might work.

 

But the pregnant argument is shaky and I'm not sure if the narrator comment means anything. One thing I can say though is that this movie definitely feels like a in-between period.

I was thinking that too.In my point of view  Probably Kishimoto will skip all romance scenes or confessions   and he will keep going with those small teaser moments by the end just the epilogue Kishimoto showing Naruto and Sakura married until there is for me, but I like you said Sakura telling Naruto that she is pregnant. 


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 02:18 AM

Ahh if Sakura is pregnant I wonder what Naruto and Sakura's kids would be like (If they have any)







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