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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:19 AM

Oh the terrible things that cross your mind when Spotify suggests an album called "Ninja Sex Party" while you're currently talking about Naruto. Good lord, kill it with fire. 

That's exactly what happened in Naruto.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:19 AM

 
That would be Ramen, our trustworthy bridge to the Japanese fandom. Rikudou could potentially fill the role as translator, but he can't access 2chan due to his account being banned.

I actually meant someone on Twitter, she is really nice if you want to see her page, she talked about 2ch before

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:29 AM

I actually meant someone on Twitter, she is really nice if you want to see her page, she talked about 2ch before

 

Can she be spoken to from someone here with a twitter account regarding the specifics on 2chan?



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:30 AM

Could you guys imagine if that's the plot we had for The Last, a messed up Evil Future Naruto causing Mayhem and Present Day Naruto has to do whatever it takes in his time to save the future.  One yes it would be a hell of a lot better than this sh*tty plot line we got, but at least I would've been like Son of a b*tch they went this far with the last, No we're not getting no random ass villain for this movie we get evil future Naruto. I'm sure that would just speak volumes.

Or a plot similar to Face/Off where Naruto and Sasuke switch faces.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:33 AM

I wouldn't really consider Sakura's confession a "failfession". I really don't see what else Kishi could have done to convey it in a more convincing manner. To me the majority of the backlash was just business as usual. A large part of the fandom hates Sakura and so they will use any excuse to bash her. 

 

I'm not saying that Sakura's actions were 100% right. She could have handled the situation better. She tried to put Naruto well being before herself and she was even willing to throw away her and Naruto's friendship. To be honest I see it as one of her best moments in the entire series. 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:36 AM

 
Can she be spoken to from someone here with a twitter account regarding the specifics on 2chan?

Yes I believe so, she spoken to Kwon and informed her about how people felt about the ending and some other person :o https://mobile.twitter.com/sasunaru_wr here's the link, if you wanna speak to her about Naruto

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:36 AM

the failfession IS the most prominent point NH fans bring up.. thanx for the counter..
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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:38 AM

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:38 AM

Yes I believe so, she spoken to Kwon and informed her about how people felt about the ending and some other person :o https://mobile.twitter.com/sasunaru_wr here's the link, if you wanna speak to her about Naruto

 

I don't use twitter, but if someone here were willing to, maybe they could ask her some questions and then post the responces here.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:41 AM

 
I don't use twitter, but if someone here were willing to, maybe they could ask her some questions and then post the responces here.

Before I sleep, I suggest one person should do it, so she doesn't get overwhelmed with questions if that's ok :) Ok, night this time for real xD

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:47 AM

 lol at that pic.

 

Naruto looks like he's going, " It's...cute." ' WTF, is this thing.'

 

While HInata's like " My precioussssssssssssssss." ' Now Naruto-kun, will forever be tied to me (*.*)'

 

Kishi had a whole movie to try and establish a normal connection between Naruto and Hinata, yet he decided to prove once again, that nH could not happen, without someone else paying the price, to force them into a relationship. Instead of having Naruto and Hinata spend time together in the village and get to know each other, he decided to turn Naruto into a brat, that whines when his toy gets taken away, even when he's not playing with it. FFS, they're battling aliens on the kittening moon and yet we'e supposed to believe this kitten was meant to happen? Naruto could have been paired up with anyone else, male or female, and it would have made more sense than nH.

 

In terms of Ss, Kishi should be banned from drawing manga again, for canonizing such a sick relationship. He never once showed that Sasuke had a positive effect on Sakura, ever. It was Naruto, who inspired her, Naruto who helped her become determined to get strong, Naruto, who stuck up for her, when she couldn't do it herself, and Naruto, who she supported a majority of them manga. Yet he puts her, with the person, who was faster to insult and try to kill her, than he was to praise her. Throughout the entire part two, Sasuke didn't even treat Sakura like a decent kittening human being and yet, Kishi had the gall to say Sakura would be terrible for wanting better?

 

kitten you and the horse you rode in on, Kishimoto.

 

With everything that's happened, he has only proved to non-canon ships and even neutrals, that NS was the logical pairing, NS should have happened, and that NS, will always be the better choice.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 07:50 AM

I wouldn't really consider Sakura's confession a "failfession". I really don't see what else Kishi could have done to convey it in a more convincing manner. To me the majority of the backlash was just business as usual. A large part of the fandom hates Sakura and so they will use any excuse to bash her. 
 
I'm not saying that Sakura's actions were 100% right. She could have handled the situation better. She tried to put Naruto well being before herself and she was even willing to throw away her and Naruto's friendship. To be honest I see it as one of her best moments in the entire series. 

The fact kishi doesn't bother to solve it in the manga is what make it worse.
I always expect it will be brought up in naruto confession, because how big it has to do with naruto poal.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:03 AM

The fact kishi doesn't bother to solve it in the manga is what make it worse.
I always expect it will be brought up in naruto confession, because how big it has to do with naruto poal.

Instead he abandoned it and the PoaL. I don't understand why he sets up these things only to drop them later on.


 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:09 AM

Instead he abandoned it and the PoaL. I don't understand why he sets up these things only to drop them later on.

It's the highest point of NS romance from naruto side.
And that's the last time naruto say his magic mantra that make me hook with this series "I will never take back my word because it's my ninja way".

And he did take back his word :zaru:

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:13 AM

It's the highest point of NS romance from naruto side.
And that's the last time naruto say his magic mantra that make me hook with this series "I will never take back my word because it's my ninja way".

And he did take back his word :zaru:

Oh the entire poal scene is completely ruined by the Last because of the "rivalry with Sasuke" thing. I guess he never really understood her and was just trying to interfere with her love for god knows what. That's really depressing when you think about it.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:23 AM

yeah...but that is what sakura thinks, and justifies her leaving him.. and him going to hinata.

Actually, even with this ending, I will always laugh at hinata's miserable fate. She was the rebound xD. Her clan saw her as a second to first neji and then hanabi, she never got around to fulfilling neji's eish, and became a housewife.. instead of the clan leader she was meant to be.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:27 AM

the failfession IS the most prominent point NH fans bring up.. thanx for the counter..

Yeah and I've never understood that. Naruto didn't say that he hated Sakura. He said that he hates people who lie to themselves. There a big difference. 

 

Also, if we are to believe The Last then it's actually Naruto who has been lying to himself. If it's true that he only chased after Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke, then why did he tell Minato that Sakura is his girlfriend? Was it just a joke? That's pretty ironic when he's the one who berated Sakura for "joking" about being in love with him. 

 

The fact kishi doesn't bother to solve it in the manga is what make it worse.
I always expect it will be brought up in naruto confession, because how big it has to do with naruto poal.

It was simply retconned out of existence, just like the rest of the NS relationship. Still, Kishi can't change what he himself has already written. NS was there and it was real. No amount of retconning will ever change that. 

 

Oh the entire poal scene is completely ruined by the Last because of the "rivalry with Sasuke" thing. I guess he never really understood her and was just trying to interfere with her love for god knows what. That's really depressing when you think about it.

Yeah, what an a**hole. I'm still waiting for an apology from the Sakura hatedom. Turns out she wasn't wrong about him at all. He really was just a brat who was trying to get in the way of her love life. What a great hero.  :zaru:


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:35 AM

Yeah and I've never understood that. Naruto didn't say that he hated Sakura. He said that he hates people who lie to themselves. There a big difference. 

 

Also, if we are to believe The Last then it's actually Naruto who has been lying to himself. If it's true that he only chased after Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke, then why did he tell Minato that Sakura is his girlfriend. Was it just a joke? That's pretty ironic when he's the one who berated Sakura for "joking" about being in love with him. 

 

It was simply retconned out of existence, just like the rest of the NS relationship. Still, Kishi can't change what he himself has already written. NS was there and it was real. No amount of retconning will ever change that. 

 

Yeah, what an a**hole. I'm still waiting for an apology from the Sakura hatedom. Turns out she wasn't wrong about him at all. He really was just a brat who was trying to get in the way of her love life. What a great hero.  :zaru:

The poal was simply another way for Naruto to try to win over Sakura and one up Sasuke. And what would Naruto say to Sasuke if he did win Sakura over? "Hah I won!"??? Seriously what a bunch of BS.


 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:41 AM

I asked this question yesterday.I was told that this was sakura's view...

so, it is entirely possible that she tried to justify her feelings for sasuke and push naruto away towards hinata using this godawful line.

This dialogue not only degrades and trivialize naruto's but also jiraiya's unconditional love.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 08:43 AM

The poal was simply another way for Naruto to try to win over Sakura and one up Sasuke. And what would Naruto say to Sasuke if he did win Sakura over? "Hah I won!"??? Seriously what a bunch of BS.


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