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[ALESSE]

@brandon
BECAUSE NS IS A REDHERRING!!!! YOU WILL SEE IN NEXT CHAPTER HINATA AND SAKURA WILL COME TO RESCUE BOTH BOYS AND AT THAT TIME BOTH SASUKE AND NARUTO WILL ACCEPT THE LOVE OF THE GIRLS AND IT WILL MAKE OBITO TNJ BECAUSE HE DOENS'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOVE HIM LIKE HINATA.


You forgot to mention that these manga Nostradamus esque manga prediction nh fans are 99.99% certain that what u just said is gonna happen in the next chapter lmaoo





LoL

[T XD]

Haters gonna hate, guys. There's no other way for those except accepting the facts and reality ! I know it's stressful, but don't worry anymore about it XD

 

By the way, if this site gets invaded with hate and such, we can stand still with what we got of facts and logic. We're pretty strong and good at this, and the modes are going to be around to ban them at the same time.

Edited by T XD, 22 July 2013 - 10:34 AM.

[Gravenimage]

I think I repeated this a long time ago why the fandom hate Sakura. Not just because Naruto loves her its because she's the heroine, because Kishi is fond of her and most importantly because the fandom knows its going to be NS in the end. It's better to deny and type of logic been shown in the development and the parallels with Kishi's manga and just focus one's hatred on the lead female the girl Naruto will always love. Its the fact that they know Naruto will never love Hinata and show extreme high loyalty towards her like he does with Sakura, the truth hurts.

Edited by Gravenimage, 22 July 2013 - 11:46 AM.

[Canadian_DJ]

At this point part of me just wants narusaku to come true because of the ill rational hate towards sakura, seriously I was just watching a video on an uns3 art book and the guy reading/showing it is just reading it as normal but when he comes across sakura he just says "the b**** sakura." Seriously, it's like can any fan even those without the pairings just go without bashing characters in any discussing even just showing a piece of merchandise? This same guy didn't go on to say anything upping hinata though. But seriously is this how bad the hate has become, because sakura does not conform to the western fandom because she likes to be very independent? Because she tries to be better for herself? Dear lord it's a funny double standard, the western world goes on all the time about oppression of women in other areas of the world and yet in a fictional series like naruto they go gaga over a girl who acts so submissively like hinata? This crap makes me just sick of the fandom at times.
Usually I don't get upset at stuff like this but still just even the simplist of things in the fandom cannot go without this crap? Come on. People are allowed to like and hate characters all they want but seriously I wish people would just adhere to tolerance, I mean geez I've seen people more civilized on Xbox live than in this fandom over pairings, and Xbox live is just full of its own hate like the other gaming networks. Least on Xbox live I've never gotten into a war with others on the same team just over what other games we like or hate. Still I'm not going to focus on this. With stuff like the past development and it coming to a time like 631 when it still has more buildup to come, makes me happy knowing even with stuff like 631, this ns stuff is nowhere near done.

I know man... I mean, why all the hate from the western fans? What did she ever do? She wasnt annoying OR useless in part 1, she was normal compared to her team mates and they were kids back then, now sakura is an ultra badass and so cool, she hasnt done anything to be called a B. They're just spitting out nonsense they cant back up. Seriosuly naruto is thr first anime I've watched. Has there been a heroine hated as much as sakura among the western fandase? Seriohsly, I will just never get the western sakura haters. I even went as far as to making an account on anime ultima.tv just to defend sakura and I did, and thankfully I shut them up, and now im defending her on the RTN one on animeultima.tv hopefully I can shut them up.

For the first bolded nigahiga a youtube fame said the same thing except he called her a whore.   If sakura was such a thing then why isn't she sleeping with other men? Also i don't like the whole its a "joke" excuse... and bashing her 24 hours is not a joke its a sick mainstream habit our fandom has had for over ten years now.
 
Not only the sakura hate has gotten worse now its also the fact that narutos love for her has been disrespected. When i was looking at chattes tumblr post to see if she post anything great i stumbled sakura hate and a short paragraph about how naruto still having feelings for sakura is irritating . if hinata's love for naruto isn't replicated or acknowledge then hinata should push naruto and sakura together and it would be a great character development for this amazing female ninja?   uhhh NO
 
Again putting hinata as a more of an importance putting down sakura and then naruto its something i can never respect ITS HIS STORY AND HIS DECISION ON LOVING SAKURA. Also hiding or indirect hate for sakura isn't helping its making it worse it was clear to me when i read that post.
 
I know the person was trying to be respectful,but its not respectful to downgrade the main characters love like that...just so you can benefit yourself for your love of a side character and only for the side characters desire.

About nigahiga, I kinda panicked to and said why? Is he a sakura hater? But then I did some research about him and went to his official sites and all. And I passed by this picture he took of himself and he called himself a whore, so does he mean hes a whore? Plus, sakura hasnt done anything bad, shes anything but that. Nigahiga has the habit of doing the opposite of things in his videos. Plus, knowing nigahiga and his way of comedy, you'd know that he doesnt mean what he said. Plus the name of the video was called "immature guys" so going by the name of the video everything was immature that he did. Everything, so now you think he's a spoiled brat? he didnt mean it. In fact, thr fact that he's japanese, he knows the japanese cutlure with anime and all, so id say that he doesnt hate her, and in fact he likes her. I dont think he'd inude her in his video and not like her. He was just kidding. C'mon did you ever take anything seriously in his videos? :)

[sushi.]

well if you think all the reviewers out there are bad you could 1 up them and make your own reviews

Is this for me and are you frickin' joking?

[HauntedCake]

It was sakura's treatment of Naruto and her grovelling of sasuke which earned her the hate she gets. I can agree why she was hated in part 1 she was horrible toward Naruto. She improved throughout part 1 but the Poal was probably the one moment which got her most the hate.

 

She was extremely selfish and stuck up toward Naruto believing he was not good enough for her at early times

Edited by HauntedCake, 22 July 2013 - 01:07 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

It was sakura's treatment of Naruto and her grovelling of sasuke which earned her the hate she gets. I can agree why she was hated in part 1 she was horrible toward Naruto. She improved throughout part 1 but the Poal was probably the one moment which got her most the hate.
 
She was extremely selfish and stuck up toward Naruto believing he was not good enough for her at early times

But why? She was just a kid back then and the only time she really was harsh was when she was talking to the real sasuke back in chap 3 about how naruto doesnt have parents but thwn sasuke called her annoying then she got hurt and wondered if this was how naruto felt and she said she'd ne nicer towards him while blushing. All the other times was comedy purpose. As well as the times she'd fangirl towards sasuke.

[T XD]

Those who say bad things about Sakura on the hitting, and her affection for Sasuke in part 1, don't know about how manga goes and don't know about Tsundere characters. Not to mention they don't know what Tsundere is. There's people who knew now what Tsundere is, but keeps saying bad things about her cause she's a threat to another pairing. Here they're caught being illogical and biased.

 

There's many fans in the west that are new to manga, and takes anything like hitting as something bad even if they felt that it's for comic relief, and don't consider how a plot should go for drama that is related to romance. Let's not forget either when they're first on the internet to look into the Naruto series and gets into the NH arguments that they will take a thought on Sakura and everything else related to the manga cause they ran first to them.

Edited by T XD, 22 July 2013 - 01:35 PM.

[HauntedCake]

Those who say bad things about Sakura on the hitting, and her affection for Sasuke in part 1, don't know about how manga goes and don't know about Tsundere characters. Not to mention they don't know what Tsundere is. There's people who knew now what Tsundere is, but keeps saying bad things about her cause she's a threat to another pairing. Here they're caught being illogical and biased.

 

There's many fans in the west that are new to manga, and takes anything like hitting as something bad even if they felt that it's for comic relief, and don't consider how a plot should go for drama that is related to romance. Let's not forget either when they're first on the internet to look into the Naruto series and gets into the NH arguments that they will take a thought on Sakura and everything else related to the manga cause they ran first to them.

Yeah the hitting is not what im factoring in i know its comedy/deserved for Naruto's pranks.

 

She placed sasuke on a pedastal and was extremely submissive to him which in my eyes made her look pathetic and OOC. Whilst she was dominant/dismissive of naruto. Very hipocritical in that sense.

 

I still haven't forgotten/fully forgiven sakura for her part 1 behaviour but she still is my favourite herione and part 2/3 has given me great confidence she will boot sasuke up the ass and be herself with Naruto rather then submit and pretend to be someone else for sasuke.

[T XD]

Yeah the hitting is not what im factoring in i know its comedy/deserved for Naruto's pranks.

 

She placed sasuke on a pedastal and was extremely submissive to him which in my eyes made her look pathetic and OOC. Whilst she was dominant/dismissive of naruto. Very hipocritical in that sense.

 

I still haven't forgotten/fully forgiven sakura for her part 1 behaviour but she still is my favourite herione and part 2/3 has given me great confidence she will boot sasuke up the ass and be herself with Naruto rather then submit and pretend to be someone else for sasuke.

Her being that way when she was around Sasuke is to have the heroine like the cool and calm main character for afterwards have a drama and have some action in the romance part from it in the plot, as we're seeing in part 2, then she knows that she truly loves Naruto, the hero. It's nothing new or overdone in a manga.

 

If one see that and still doesn't agree to how things go, it would be one's personal opinion on the matter then.

 

By the way, I wasn't talking to you when I said " Those ". I was talking about the haters.

Edited by T XD, 22 July 2013 - 01:57 PM.

[rikakim94]

I know man... I mean, why all the hate from the western fans? What did she ever do? She wasnt annoying OR useless in part 1, she was normal compared to her team mates and they were kids back then, now sakura is an ultra badass and so cool, she hasnt done anything to be called a B. They're just spitting out nonsense they cant back up. Seriosuly naruto is thr first anime I've watched. Has there been a heroine hated as much as sakura among the western fandase? Seriohsly, I will just never get the western sakura haters. I even went as far as to making an account on anime ultima.tv just to defend sakura and I did, and thankfully I shut them up, and now im defending her on the RTN one on animeultima.tv hopefully I can shut them up.
About nigahiga, I kinda panicked to and said why? Is he a sakura hater? But then I did some research about him and went to his official sites and all. And I passed by this picture he took of himself and he called himself a whore, so does he mean hes a whore? Plus, sakura hasnt done anything bad, shes anything but that. Nigahiga has the habit of doing the opposite of things in his videos. Plus, knowing nigahiga and his way of comedy, you'd know that he doesnt mean what he said. Plus the name of the video was called "immature guys" so going by the name of the video everything was immature that he did. Everything, so now you think he's a spoiled brat? he didnt mean it. In fact, thr fact that he's japanese, he knows the japanese cutlure with anime and all, so id say that he doesnt hate her, and in fact he likes her. I dont think he'd inude her in his video and not like her. He was just kidding. C'mon did you ever take anything seriously in his videos? :)

 

Ok thank you for explaining about nigahiga, but don't put words into my mouth like that. 

 

I don't see him as spolied brat and the reason why i took the hate a little hard is because sakura is well known to get a lot of hate in this fandom especially when the bashing in the fandom is nonstop. And it saddens me that even popular internet celebs knows how bad the sakura hate therefore they have to make a joke about it so the users can relate towards the hate. when i was on tumblr a sakura fan got offended by it she also liked nigahiga that was until people told her to not get worked up by it,but she was still bothered by it.

 

Inferno even mentioned how one reviewer picked up a naruto merchandise and called sakura a b####. Its hard to trust when others make judgement out of sakura like that this is something that sakura fans have to deal it everyday and its makes it hard to see it as a joke sometimes.

Edited by rikakim94, 22 July 2013 - 02:25 PM.

[Gravenimage]

It was sakura's treatment of Naruto and her grovelling of sasuke which earned her the hate she gets. I can agree why she was hated in part 1 she was horrible toward Naruto. She improved throughout part 1 but the Poal was probably the one moment which got her most the hate.
 
She was extremely selfish and stuck up toward Naruto believing he was not good enough for her at early times

 
Haunted how long has it been since Sakura has miss treated Naruto or fangirled over Sasuke? Those who uses her part 1 self to justify her character are using excuses that are BS. I bet most of those haters knows perfectly what a tsundere is and that she always ends up with the male protagonist in a shounen series, also that she hits the male protagonist for comic relief purposes. They hate her for hitting on Naruto let me tell you something I have seen tsundere that are far WORSE than Sakura, that make her a saint next to them. 
 
Haruko from FLCL (Fooly Cooly) is the tsundere of the series she hits the male protagonist Naota with her scooter, her guitar and even a baseball bat. Though the series is centered more on comedy it still clearly shown how a tsundere acts around her love interest. Those who uses excuses that Sakura hits Naruto to hate her are failing to justify their hate on her character, she's a tsundere. In fact she's way more soft than the average tsundere I have seen. 

[StriderC]

I will never understand how people can say she deserves the hate she gets in Part 1 especially considering she wasn't as bad to Naruto as some people have made her out to be. She was not a kitten to him throughout Part 1 abd how does one dislike a character because of a lack of feelings they had for another. I can weigh the good and the bad with the relationship Naruto and Sakura had in Part 1 and I guaranteed the good will out do the bad. Hell it all started in Part 1. Not at the end with the PoaL. Before that Sakura warmed up to Naruto and saw him change. She was inspired by him, rooted for him and stuck up for him but apparently she was a b*tch to him though and this was enough to garner hate toward her? The comic relief and the fact that she didn't like him at first right? Well that was short lived, and she wasn't the only one who looked down on him. She WAS one of the few who believed in him early on. Not even Hinata did this early on in his fight against Kiba. All and all, the hate she gets is unjustified and a lot of it has to do with pairings.

Edited by StriderC, 22 July 2013 - 03:27 PM.

[StriderC]

Another funny this is how she was hated over her crush. I guess she was supposed to be tied to Naruto at the waist even that early in the series. Lol

[Phantom_999]

It was sakura's treatment of Naruto and her grovelling of sasuke which earned her the hate she gets. I can agree why she was hated in part 1 she was horrible toward Naruto. She improved throughout part 1 but the Poal was probably the one moment which got her most the hate.

 

She was extremely selfish and stuck up toward Naruto believing he was not good enough for her at early times

 

I would like to think it's more than that. When I see the hate directed at Sakura it's mainly about her part I self. Now all that you say is true but there is one major factor that makes them have such single minded hate for Sakura. It's the fact that Naruto had such a harsh past. With the tsundere argument it's not that the West does not like them they just have low tolerence for how far slapstick comedy should go. And I believe this applies to Naruto because the West sympathizes with his terrible childhood and Do not appreciate that The girl he likes of all people to be unaffectionate to him. Which is probably Why they want him to get with Hinata cause they did not look down on each other. But they forget that Hinata did nothing to comfort him as well, before or after. So they really do not see the  self contradiction there, but still insult and Bash Sakura when it could be said Hinata wasn't much different either. That said, in a way Sakura's comedic sociopathy is not entirely justified because Naruto's pranking was just a way to gain attention, and his stupidity is due to the fact that he had no real parental figure to teach him about those things. Anyway I think that is one reason though may not be the case because a lot of fans Hate Naruto as well for his obsession with Sasuke too. So all in all Many fans are just hating for hatings sake but never properly reason it out. 

Edited by Phantom_999, 22 July 2013 - 04:16 PM.

[Askia31]

So one thing I keep hearing is that Minato is in a wrong ''assumption'' about Sakura being ''Naruto's girlfirend'' and even being like Kushina. And apparently just before he leaves, he will somehow notice Hinata was the true one for Naruto.

[Canadian_DJ]

Ok thank you for explaining about nigahiga, but don't put words into my mouth like that. 
 
I don't see him as spolied brat and the reason why i took the hate a little hard is because sakura is well known to get a lot of hate in this fandom especially when the bashing in the fandom is nonstop. And it saddens me that even popular internet celebs knows how bad the sakura hate therefore they have to make a joke about it so the users can relate towards the hate. when i was on tumblr a sakura fan got offended by it she also liked nigahiga that was until people told her to not get worked up by it,but she was still bothered by it.
 
Inferno even mentioned how one reviewer picked up a naruto merchandise and called sakura a b####. Its hard to trust when others make judgement out of sakura like that this is something that sakura fans have to deal it everyday and its makes it hard to see it as a joke sometimes.

No the first part of the post wasnt directed to you I was just venting out about how the western sakura haters are terrible

And yeah no problem, once you actually look outside the box and calm down and think logically and think back on how ryan is, everythings a-ok!

I will never understand how people can say she deserves the hate she gets in Part 1 especially considering she wasn't as bad to Naruto as some people have made her out to be. She was not a b*tch to him throughout Part 1 abd how does one dislike a character because of a lack of feelings they had for another. I can weigh the good and the bad with the relationship Naruto and Sakura had in Part 1 and I guaranteed the good will out do the bad. Hell it all started in Part 1. Not at the end with the PoaL. Before that Sakura warmed up to Naruto and saw him change. She was inspired by him, rooted for him and stuck up for him but apparently she was a b*tch to him though and this was enough to garner hate toward her? The comic relief and the fact that she didn't like him at first right? Well that was short lived, and she wasn't the only one who looked down on him. She WAS one of the few who believed in him early on. Not even Hinata did this early on in his fight against Kiba. All and all, the hate she gets is unjustified and a lot of it has to do with pairings.

Exactly. I dunno why some western fans are making part 1 sakura sound so bad...she wasnt at all.

Haunted how long has it been since Sakura has miss treated Naruto or fangirled over Sasuke? Those who uses her part 1 self to justify her character are using excuses that are BS. I bet most of those haters knows perfectly what a tsundere is and that she always ends up with the male protagonist in a shounen series, also that she hits the male protagonist for comic relief purposes. They hate her for hitting on Naruto let me tell you something I have seen tsundere that are far WORSE than Sakura, that make her a saint next to them. 
 
Haruko from FLCL (Fooly Cooly) is the tsundere of the series she hits the male protagonist Naota with her scooter, her guitar and even a baseball bat. Though the series is centered more on comedy it still clearly shown how a tsundere acts around her love interest. Those who uses excuses that Sakura hits Naruto to hate her are failing to justify their hate on her character, she's a tsundere. In fact she's way more soft than the average tsundere I have seen.

This.

Why do some of the westerners put hinata on such a high pedestal? She did absolutely NOTHING! in the manga!!! Why? Why?? It makes no sense!! If the japanese fans arent even doing thag then WHY?! I didnt miss anything!!

[T XD]

Why do some of the westerners put hinata on such a high pedestal? She did absolutely NOTHING! in the manga!!! Why? Why?? It makes no sense!! If the japanese fans arent even doing thag then WHY?! I didnt miss anything!!

I think it goes down to the simple way. Naruto loves Sakura in part 1 and on. Sakura doesn't love Naruto in part 1, but there's this side character that likes Naruto, Hinata. So, they go for the simple road for the hero wanting him to be with the girl who already has an aye on him.

 

In process of part 1 and then part 2 came, Sakura was showing romance and parallels and moments and facts all together towards Naruto, but they got stuck with Hinata. So... They don't want to let go. This tells us that it's about pure preference.

Edited by T XD, 22 July 2013 - 04:38 PM.

[Canadian_DJ]

I think it goes down to the simple way. Naruto loves Sakura in part 1 and on. Sakura doesn't love Naruto in part 1, but there's this side character that likes Naruto, Hinata. So, they go for the simple road for the hero wanting him to be with the girl who already has an aye on him.
 
In process of part 1 and then part 2 came, Sakura was showing romance and parallels and moments and facts all together towards Naruto, but they got stuck with Hinata. So... They don't want to let go. This tells us that it's about pure preference.

Tell me about it....naruto loves sakura, and so does sakura, sakuras an awesome heroine and hinata isnt even a heroine nor is she anywhere near awesome so why cant they just accept the fact that sakura is better, look at how sakura is loved in japan and the bashing is knowhere near like here. Wont they accept logic?

[Kster95]

At this point I don't see Sakura ever having more feelings for Sasuke than Naruto, Like do you think she would be happy being with Sasuke and not Naruto? doubt it