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#4301 PhenixElite

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I will be honest with you, NS was saying in the past that Sakura was not thinking about Sasuke so is almost 100% sure that NS will happen, but then we saw that we were wrong her love is still there, after NS were saying that Hinata smile to NS hug seems that she already accepted NS and Sakura for sure will be over Sasuke after he tried to kill her two more times, later Bam NS got slapped with chapter 540 then 559 later 573.

Now if you see my percentage for NS being the end pairing will be more than ok, since I think that NS has a 95% chance of happening, that is ok I never like being overconfident with anything until I'm 100% sure.

http://www.youtube.c...o...nel&list=UL

Now if you quit calling me doubter it would be nice, because all I'm doing if refuse being over confident and more open minded about stuff, do I strongly believe NS will happen? Yes. Do I have the argument? Yes. Will I try to relate every event with NS? NO. Am I 100% sure Kishi will go the NS way? NO.


Hmmm lets think about the other pairings NH would be like this: hinata talking 2 words a day with naruto becausse shes to shy and always stumbling (seems like a nice relationship/ not).
SS would be like this:

Sakura: I love you sasuke
Sasuke: Ok now go back to the kitchen

Then sasuke would cheat on her with karin or shizune or dont know who XDD.

If you ask me thats all bullcrap, i wouldnt even think about giving other parings a chance also if you see it another way.

If kishi is really going to to make another pairing im still going to watch naruto but i wouldnt support any romance in this anymore

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:16 PM

About the anime filler, yes they are not made by Kishi. Which beg the question, why the studio goes all out for NaruSaku? What if they're wrong? It doesn't seem like they can be wrong or rather, they know they're not. It's a mystery if you ask me. It's like they're saying, "Come on, guys. Isn't it obvious? Sigh. It was easy for Ichigo and Rukia. Quick, call those staff to make NaruSaku moments..." So yeah. As for the latest movie, yes, Kishi made that movie and that's why people were so hyped to see his intention of pairings. Yeah...victory...


Thats idd what i was thinking about too

Edited by Arachnia, 13 September 2012 - 09:17 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I will be honest with you, NS was saying in the past that Sakura was not thinking about Sasuke so is almost 100% sure that NS will happen, but then we saw that we were wrong her love is still there, after NS were saying that Hinata smile to NS hug seems that she already accepted NS and Sakura for sure will be over Sasuke after he tried to kill her two more times, later Bam NS got slapped with chapter 540 then 559 later 573.

Now if you see my percentage for NS being the end pairing will be more than ok, since I think that NS has a 95% chance of happening, that is ok I never like being overconfident with anything until I'm 100% sure.

http://www.youtube.c...o...nel&list=UL

Now if you quit calling me doubter it would be nice, because all I'm doing if refuse being over confident and more open minded about stuff, do I strongly believe NS will happen? Yes. Do I have the argument? Yes. Will I try to relate every event with NS? NO. Am I 100% sure Kishi will go the NS way? NO.

The chapters 540 and 559 and 573 are only Hinata's moments as nothing else is related to Hinata in the scenes that she's in . NS moments being not shown for a long time is simply the way the story goes for now, they won't stop but now it's like a break plus NS have already too much many moments and stopping it for now doesn't mean the pairing is failing, it means there more coming but now it's on hold.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 13 2012, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm lets think about the other pairings NH would be like this: hinata talking 2 words a day with naruto becausse shes to shy and always stumbling (seems like a nice relationship/ not).
SS would be like this:

Sakura: I love you sasuke
Sasuke: Ok now go back to the kitchen

Then sasuke would cheat on her with karin or shizune or dont know who XDD.

If you ask me thats all bullcrap, i wouldnt even think about giving other parings a chance also if you see it another way.

If kishi is really going to to make another pairing im still going to watch naruto but i wouldnt support any romance in this anymore



Not too give you bad hopes or anything but i am afraid hinata is not that shy anymore she hass been acknowledged by naruto in the latest chapter so dont think she will be that shy around him (i am not saying naruto loves hinata more then sakura BTW) we dont know that i say he still loves sakura more but i hope that haha.

about sasuke yea we dont know what is gonna happen with him and sakura all i know is hes been a naughty boy haha and would be pretty lame if every1 forgives him like right away and all the girls will do this love.gif love.gif love.gif again.

Edited by Arachnia, 13 September 2012 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 13 2012, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
About the anime filler, yes they are not made by Kishi. Which beg the question, why the studio goes all out for NaruSaku? What if they're wrong? It doesn't seem like they can be wrong or rather, they know they're not. It's a mystery if you ask me. It's like they're saying, "Come on, guys. Isn't it obvious? Sigh. It was easy for Ichigo and Rukia. Quick, call those staff to make NaruSaku moments..." So yeah. As for the latest movie, yes, Kishi made that movie and that's why people were so hyped to see his intention of pairings. Yeah...victory...


Thats idd what i was thinking about too


well the anime team usually stick to what they know about the pairings

naruto likes sakura
hinata likes naruto
sakura as far as they know likes sasuke and cares for naruto.

so they just stick with that but make it extreme :3

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:47 PM

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Let me put it this way, I'm not like other debater, I dislike SS and I believe that the Idea of the pairing is crazy, but I don't write it out I just use fact against it.

-Sakura doesn't have any desire to keep chasing Sasuke, but she loves him that's fact. Sakura is not st*pid.

-If Karin free herself there is a strong possibility that she will face Sasuke again will she try to kill him, will she be fangirl who knows but Kishi will not show her planing to escape for no reason.

-Hinata loves Naruto and the relation is positive and her plan his to pursue a relationship with him is that wrong? Does she need motivation? No her feelings are enough. Fact

-Sasuke has no romantic feelings for Sakura, that is fact.

Naruto gave a reason why he hasn't chased Sakura, that is fact. Plus If Naruto didn't like Sakura why will he be bother with Sakura making a joke like that with her confession, why when Sakura ask if he doesn't like her just say so but he didn't. He said is not that is just wierd.

Naruto respect Hinata and the interaction between them are positive, just like his interactions with Iruka, he respects her, but it hasn't been implied that he has romantic feelings for her, that's fact.

Sakura were implied in two occasions that she might feels something special for Naruto but it hasn't been specified or made clear and people love to say that you cannot have feelings for a person who she have nothing with and slowly grew feelings for someone who she have a close relation with.

Now I reply 2 times to you and in none of my reply I favor any pairing I was just being honest about the Manga, Anything I said I can backed up with the Manga and if someone disagree they just need to show a manga panel correcting what I said


What some user normally do is say 469, 540, 559 and 573. Yes I know those panels, but I'm asking for a panel were Naruto clearly thought of Hinata in a romantic light, we saw all the characters expressing their feelings towards a character or telling them how they feel about them but Naruto never did any of that with Hinata only with Sakura is doesn't matter when he just never did for Hinata, even to say that I don't saw him blushing, something Authors normally use to show affection, again nothing on Naruto said.

Sakura implies that she liked Naruto, and others imply that there is something more than just friends, as Sakura ever stated that there isn't something. In other words, I may like seeing my friend I think she is cute but I already love someone else. That is Sakura and Naruto and that is why Kishimoto said Naruto is close but she still loves Sasuke, he knows his character more than anyone.

The user keep calling his speculation fact and this was my reply.
QUOTE (Don-kun;44463960)
Despite what you say there are many who thinks otherwise I don't know if it's desperation to claim that their pairing is cannon or what, but to my knowledge the 4 feelings are still the same and the only way you can disagree if you have a panel that shows that the status is wrong.

Comments I really hate to read:
Sasuke will never love Karin, Sakura, Ino Hinata or an OOC character or no one.
Naruto will never love Hinata or any other girl.
Hinata will never love another character or be alone, that means she will get Naruto.
Sakura will never love Naruto or any other character.

Oh the hell do we know that if this isn't our story. There is a big difference with I'm sure vs I think.
But people don't want to get that especially a specific group.:mad


I think the same way about every group, I just think NH/SS does it more.

Now can we move on? I refuse to believe NS is written on stone , I just believe that it has more chances than the other two pairings.

Edited by NS means logic, 13 September 2012 - 09:50 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:03 PM

So i was thinking about this question lately:
In order for a character to be dead , a character that plays a big role in the manga like Tsunade, should it have flashbacks or it's not necessary when they are dying as a confirmation that this character died ?

My answer is if flashbacks occurred, it means the character had died but if it did not happen, it can be that the character has really died or is still alive like showing up later and it depends dead or still alive by how the story line is written, for example, Jiraiya did not have much flashbacks but how his dying is written tells that he's really dead.

So what are your thoughts on the question ?

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 10:56 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 13 2012, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So i was thinking about this question lately:
In order for a character to die , a character that plays a big role in the manga like Tsunade, should it have flashbacks or it's not necessary when they are dying as a confirmation that this character died ?

My answer isif flashbacks occurred, it means the character had died but if it did not happen, it can be that the character has really died or is still alive like showing up later and it depends dead or still alive by how the story line is written, for example, Jiraiya did not have flashbacks but how his dying is written tells that he's really dead.

So what are your thoughts on the question ?


I think Jiraiya had flashbacks about minato and kushina when kushina was pregnant and alot about naruto not giving up or am i wrong not sure. but if she dies it will prob be epic on flashbacks and emotional like asuma or any major character from the old series.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 13 2012, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, but you just showed him the pro-narusaku moments, did you actually showed him the anti stuff too? If not, how can your friend predict the outcome without knowing the whole picture?

*facepalm* maybe you should look at the link? it had anti moments too. when i said all the sakura/narusaku moments in one post, i meant all, from part 1 all the way to the latest chapter showing sakura.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 14 2012, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Jiraiya had flashbacks about minato and kushina when kushina was pregnant and alot about naruto not giving up or am i wrong not sure. but if she dies it will prob be epic on flashbacks and emotional like asuma or any major character from the old series.

Oh yea, he did have flashbacks about Minato and Kushina but i don't think about Naruto too. But the idea of the question still the same biggrin.gif
Going to edit the post biggrin.gif

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 10:53 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE (ultranx @ Sep 13 2012, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*facepalm* maybe you should look at the link? it had anti moments too. when i said all the sakura/narusaku moments in one post, i meant all, from part 1 all the way to the latest chapter showing sakura.


Alright, just making sure.
Been really tired lately, so I've might have not seen it. Sorry sad.gif

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now can we move on? I refuse to believe NS is written on stone , I just believe that it has more chances than the other two pairings.


I have openly admit my confidence in the pairing, and how I find the arguments from the other pairings quite ludicrous. I've even posted several angry comments about seeing so many NH/ANTI-NS fans. But I just want to make sure everyone knows that I don't think Narusaku is set in stone. While I don't think there should be anything to doubt about it (at least not yet), there's always that possibility that Kishi may go for the twist. Maybe, like when Sakura thought of Sasuke as the man she loved, that Naruto may think of Hinata as the girl he loves. omfg.gif However, that wouldn't be consistent of what the anime fillers, Rock Lee SD show, or even his OWN FREAKING movie was trying to show by having Naruto still having a crush on Sakura. There's also still nothing to suggest in the manga that he has let go of his feelings of Sakura. But then again, Kishi can still make Naruto let go of his feelings, by having him realize that he shouldn't keep his heart for one girl forever...........HOWEVER, that still wouldn't be consistent with the character, as he is know to never give up.

Despite me rebuking several possibilities of Narusaku not happening, they are still possibilities. They can still happen, and we can't control it. But with everything I said, those scenarios are not very likely. So why would I doubt this, if I haven't been given anything to doubt this from happening. The only thing that can make me change my opinion is arguments from other fans saying why it wont happen, and seeing how I just called those arguments ludicrous, they have not persuaded me to think otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, opposing pairing fandoms DO have things to say, things we may need to take consideration. Also, to me, it's great to have some doubt, I'll be worried if I initially didn't have any. It's always good to question the material you study, and try to predict what will happen next. But my main point of what I'm trying to say is that I have yet to place Narusaku on stone, I'm just questioning why I (just me) should doubt it wont happen when there has been nothing that says otherwise. And if Naruhina does happen, I'll take it as a twist. NOT because I believe the arguments were right.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The user keep calling his speculation fact and this was my reply.

I think the same way about every group, I just think NH/SS does it more.

Now can we move on? I refuse to believe NS is written on stone , I just believe that it has more chances than the other two pairings.

You got it.

I don't think it's written in stone yet either, but I just don't see how Kishi can turn around and destroy all the developments he has done. Just because he said he forgot Sakura at one point doesn't mean he forgot the development she already had. That's the difference. It's best to say NS has the highest possibility of them all, but is it canon? Nope. Not yet. For now, I'll just enjoy the story that we are embarking. The romance part has to wait.

Yeah, I saw your argument in NF. I'm aware of it. So, don't worry. It's ok to be open minded. That said I must admit it's great to have so many fanservice in our hands, let alone the one we have in our sig. Awesome stuff.

@merryGOflava:
You're right about the anime. Even so, you got to admit that they do go overtone for NS, as if it's canon already. Heck, remember, these are the guys that already made Sakura feeling confused about her feelings for who she loves. Not my fault, it's their work. Heck, they managed to make Immortal Arc into NS fanservice arc. I didn't know that was possible. tongue.gif

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 14 2012, 12:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You got it.

I don't think it's written in stone yet either, but I just don't see how Kishi can turn around and destroy all the developments he has done. Just because he said he forgot Sakura at one point doesn't mean he forgot the development she already had. That's the difference. It's best to say NS has the highest possibility of them all, but is it canon? Nope. Not yet. For now, I'll just enjoy the story that we are embarking. The romance part has to wait.

Yeah, I saw your argument in NF. I'm aware of it. So, don't worry. It's ok to be open minded. That said I must admit it's great to have so many fanservice in our hands, let alone the one we have in our sig. Awesome stuff.

@merryGOflava:
You're right about the anime. Even so, you got to admit that they do go overtone for NS, as if it's canon already. Heck, remember, these are the guys that already made Sakura feeling confused about her feelings for who she loves. Not my fault, it's their work. Heck, they managed to make Immortal Arc into NS fanservice arc. I didn't know that was possible. tongue.gif


??? immortal arc????? was that filler? (cause that probably means i skipped it)

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 13 2012, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
??? immortal arc????? was that filler? (cause that probably means i skipped it)

Lol.

It's Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. They called it Immortal arc because they are immortal pair in some sense. Hidan can't die and Kakuzu can have more than one life. So yeah, that's where they got the name. laugh.gif But yeah, they sure increased it by a lot, starting with the soldier pills and so on and so on.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 14 2012, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol.

It's Hidan and Kakuzu Arc. They called it Immortal arc because they are immortal pair in some sense. Hidan can't die and Kakuzu can have more than one life. So yeah, that's where they got the name. laugh.gif But yeah, they sure increased it by a lot, starting with the soldier pills and so on and so on.


ooooooh that makes sense biggrin.gif

yea there were some good narusaku filler moments that arc XD

Edited by merryGOflava, 14 September 2012 - 02:48 AM.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 03:04 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 13 2012, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ooooooh that makes sense biggrin.gif

yea there were some good narusaku filler moments that arc XD

Yeah.

Going to that arc, I didn't expect anything but just following the manga. Then when I saw Sakura making soldier pills for Naruto, I was like, "Huh? Oh ok?" And then rest was history. So yeah, I really enjoyed it alright. Funny, they did change the picture scene. It was about Team 7 coming together once again; in the anime, apparently it's about her feelings for both. So yeah, it's odd. I do love Naruto collecting the notes for inspirations. Sigh, it's coming guys. Another NaruSaku will happen. Just, sigh, timing is killing us.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:37 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 13 2012, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah.

Going to that arc, I didn't expect anything but just following the manga. Then when I saw Sakura making soldier pills for Naruto, I was like, "Huh? Oh ok?" And then rest was history. So yeah, I really enjoyed it alright. Funny, they did change the picture scene. It was about Team 7 coming together once again; in the anime, apparently it's about her feelings for both. So yeah, it's odd. I do love Naruto collecting the notes for inspirations. Sigh, it's coming guys. Another NaruSaku will happen. Just, sigh, timing is killing us.

It better be worth the wait! I want Kishi to rub it in the NH fanbase's faces big time. Since they're so fond of rubbingthings in our face.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Sep 14 2012, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It better be worth the wait! I want Kishi to rub it in the NH fanbase's faces big time. Since they're so fond of rubbingthings in our face.

now now noboy is going to rub anything in the other fan base's face happy.gif even if they really want to mellow.gif rolleyes.gif
it's going to be a while or atleast till the rookies arrive,but i don't know what the rookies will do when most of them can barely handle zetsu,maybe sometjing comes in the way

no here this: i don't remember where I reas this prediction but the person seemed quite honest,he mentioned that these things will happen ,keep in mind that thats when tobi first appeared
he said that he is an editor and saw what'll happen when he went to kishi's --Click here to view--
1) the kages will die or most of them including tsunade and hence leaving a place for neji to lead the army and something with shikimaru
2)sasuke will kill kakashi
3) orichimaru defeats( i dont know if he meant kill but i think that's it) sasuke and naruto rages and kikks orichimaru
4) naruto doesnt end up with sakura
5) naruto doesnt end up with hinata
6) the village votes for naruto to become hokage
so i dont know if we ahould take this into account or not but what are your thoughtson an open ending,with no couples,all fans will be satisfied

Edited by candycane-chan, 14 September 2012 - 11:55 AM.


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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now now noboy is going to rub anything in the other fan base's face happy.gif even if they really want to mellow.gif rolleyes.gif
it's going to be a while or atleast till the rookies arrive,but i don't know what the rookies will do when most of them can barely handle zetsu,maybe sometjing comes in the way

no here this: i don't remember where I reas this prediction but the person seemed quite honest,he mentioned that these things will happen ,keep in mind that thats when tobi first appeared
he said that he is an editor and saw what'll happen when he went to kishi's --Click here to view--
1) the kages will die or most of them including tsunade and hence leaving a place for neji to lead the army and something with shikimaru
2)sasuke will kill kakashi
3) orichimaru defeats( i dont know if he meant kill but i think that's it) sasuke and naruto rages and kikks orichimaru
4) naruto doesnt end up with sakura
5) naruto doesnt end up with hinata
6) the village votes for naruto to become hokage
so i dont know if we ahould take this into account or not but what are your thoughtson an open ending,with no couples,all fans will be satisfied


If you ask me total bullcrap if iro would kill sasuke why would kishi make itachi to talk to naruto to increasr the chance of briging him back.
And also if threre are no pairings no fanbase would be satisfied

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:11 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 14 2012, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you ask me total bullcrap if iro would kill sasuke why would kishi make itachi to talk to naruto to increasr the chance of briging him back.
And also if threre are no pairings no fanbase would be satisfied

NH fans would rather it open ending then NS and I personally prefr an open ending then NH..the perso seemed so sure he even have us detailed about his visits i never acually considered it since many people lie about this ,,,but now look at the kages and orichi is revived and with sasuke mellow.gif
but forget that....how would you react if it's an open ending




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