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#43041 Nar123

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:39 AM

Well it safe to say that after 2010, kishi give up on sakura thus give up on NS. That's why we never get any follow up after her confession. I believe sakura confession will be mention in naruto confession.


Yes, I agree with you on this one, its safe to say kishi changed after 2010
Sakura's confession turned out to be quite a plothole too, after a confession like that its expected for things to be a little strange between them and in the end it was never referenced again.

I guess it was supposed to be referenced at Naruto's confession but alas in the end Kishi changed his plans and created just another permanent plothole

Lol I would have loved to see the look on her face when she found out. Also who exactly is this person?


S/he's an author of a shojo manga, don't know which one

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:39 AM

Neji was such a good character... I still can't believe this bullsh** happened... :twitch: Why couldn't they leave it open-ended? :cry:

I bet Neji would be pissed if he knew the real reason he died was for Hinata-sama to get Naruto's D. What a way to go out.


 


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:40 AM

At least he didn't lie about one thing. He sure sucks at romance.

That's true. Sadly, he had a good one. All he had to do is:

 

- Remove or change the argument from stopping Sasuke to something else that pretty much talks about Naruto's safety.

- Ended Sakura's love for Sasuke since end of part 1 like it was once.

- After Pain Arc, go all the way with NS.

 

Really simple.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:41 AM

At least he didn't lie about one thing. He sure sucks at romance.


And yet he made jewels like Minakushi, Narusaku...

Sometimes I don't understand Kishi...

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:42 AM

And yet he made jewels like Minakushi, Narusaku...

Sometimes I don't understand Kishi...

Read my last post.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:42 AM

And yet he made jewels like Minakushi, Narusaku...

Sometimes I don't understand Kishi...

Yet he also created the worst relationship in the history of literature aka SasuSaku...and he made them canon too. :wallbash:


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:42 AM

Lol I would have loved to see the look on her face when she found out. Also who exactly is this person?

Mizuki kawakittena is a she. She's a shonen jump mangaka. A romantic comedy specialize. I think that art represent NS. If not, she will put sasuke and kakashi thus make a team seven. Or just naruto and sasuke.

Instead she put NS.

You should read her work, ichigo 100% I recommend it.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:43 AM

Okay - since that person has yet to provide any evidence for the "most hated movie of the year in Japan" claim, I'm going to assume that they either can't or are still looking for reception statistics.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:45 AM

Of course not. Maybe it would have been much sooner, but Pain Arc was simple though fun one.
 
Damn, that moment really hurt me when I read that part. Actually, many people at NF was like "Oh wow. Kishi, you sexist bastard. Now Sakura is complete useless." I remember this day still. I mean how everything that was planned got deleted all the sudden.


Kage Summit arc is where the huge mess of retcons began, I seriously considered to drop the manga at that point but then we had confining jinchuriki arc which introduced Kushina.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:45 AM

Exactly Konan-sama the War arc still has NS hints in it such as the CPR scene and Minato's comment about Sakura/Kushina. It also has anti-SS like Sasuke calling Sakura and Kakashi useless and the terrible genjutsu scene. Also Sakura's fake smile and her feeling bad because Sasuke didn't save her from Madara. And Kakashi's comments that her feelings for Sasuke are "different"? How can one scene of Sasuke catching Sakura before she hits the ground make up for that?
If Kishimoto already decided the pairings before Shippuden then he was deliberately trolling the readers and ignoring his own characters' feelings and actions.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:45 AM

Okay - since that person has yet to provide any evidence for the "most hated movie of the year in Japan" claim, I'm going to assume that they either can't or are still looking for reception statistics.


I guess she's is saying that because its the lowest one at yahoo jp isn't it?

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:46 AM

Mizuki kawakittena is a she. She's a shonen jump mangaka. A romantic comedy specialize. I think that art represent NS. If not, she will put sasuke and kakashi thus make a team seven. Or just naruto and sasuke.

Instead she put NS.

You should read her work, ichigo 100% I recommend it.

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Unlike kishi, she know what she do.

So a romance author saw NS in Kishi's story. I wonder what this person is thinking right now?

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:49 AM

Kage Summit arc is where the huge mess of retcons began, I seriously considered to drop the manga at that point but then we had confining jinchuriki arc which introduced Kushina.

I felt that there had to be somewhere all of the stuff going on was leading...essentially, "this isn't over yet, so I won't judge".

I don't feel that the manga was all that terrible, even if even I could see that the writing quality had definitely gone down over time, just...none of it went anywhere in the end.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:51 AM

That's true. Sadly, he had a good one. All he had to do is:
 
- Remove or change the argument from stopping Sasuke to something else that pretty much talks about Naruto's safety.
- Ended Sakura's love for Sasuke since end of part 1 like it was once.
- After Pain Arc, go all the way with NS.
 
Really simple.


This would be the logical way to go considering how the story was building up until that point but I guess kishi wanted the stupid drama to continue.
It only inflamed the fandom and alienated fans, it was a mistake to play this stupid drama angle it took away part of the story that could be used to further the development of characters like Hinata

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:52 AM

Sure. If that's ok.
 
Of course. I just don't want to invade her privacy. Is she ok?
 
Yeah, there's a lot of contradiction. To be honest, I feel like he gave up here:

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It really declined the old editor's goal. Like why?
 
Btw, one of the JP twitter I'm following seems to be a fan of ladygt. Nice! :)

Oh ok https://mobile.twitt...151946499788800 there you go! Sorry for multiquotes, which one is it? Alot of jp fans seem to like her drawings especially the after war one

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:54 AM

I guess she's is saying that because its the lowest one at yahoo jp isn't it?

 

The Last might be the lowest scoring Naruto film on YJ, but I doubt it's being criticised as the most hated of the year. Hundreds, if not thousands of films are probably every year in Japan - to suggest that Naruto has the top placing as the most disliked out of all these movies is unlikely at best.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:56 AM

I felt that there had to be somewhere all of the stuff going on was leading...essentially, "this isn't over yet, so I won't judge".
I don't feel that the manga was all that terrible, even if even I could see that the writing quality had definitely gone down over time, just...none of it went anywhere in the end.

I understand.

Still some things that happened in that arc made me face palm...hard

Things like Sakura saying she wouldnt make mistakes anymore and then doing the confession... :facepalm:

Naruto hyperventilating pathetically because of Sasuke :facepalm:

Sasuke crazy behavior leading nowhere :facepalm:

Sakura basically admitting she was useless :facepalm:


All the pointless drama :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:


And as you said, things on that arc could still have been resolved in the future but he didnt do it.

Edited by Nar123, 31 December 2014 - 02:58 AM.

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:57 AM

Mizuki kawakittena is a she. She's a shonen jump mangaka. A romantic comedy specialize. I think that art represent NS. If not, she will put sasuke and kakashi thus make a team seven. Or just naruto and sasuke.

Instead she put NS.

You should read her work, ichigo 100% I recommend it.

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Agree.
Unlike kishi, she know what she do.

Of course.

 

So a romance author saw NS in Kishi's story. I wonder what this person is thinking right now?

I want to kick his ass, that's what. Seriously, these official ones have no chemistry.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 03:01 AM

Yeah Hinata's infatuation for Naruto literally got Neji killed. You would think she'd want to give up on the guy after that. Nope--it was just to force Naruto with her out of guilt and honor so Neji's death wouldn't be in vain. Terrible way to create a couple.
Naruto and Sakura have a more natural development.

The movie just makes the couple look even more forced and awful, since Hanabi literally had to be kidnapped by some filler villain and get her eyes taken out of her eyes so that her sister could get the chance to seduce Naruto with her ninja outfit :hm:
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Posted 31 December 2014 - 03:01 AM

 
The Last might be the lowest scoring Naruto film on YJ, but I doubt it's being criticised as the most hated of the year. Hundreds, if not thousands of films are probably every year in Japan - to suggest that Naruto has the top placing as the most disliked out of all these movies is unlikely at best.

Oh i believe that was a statement made with basis on the general fandom reaction (excluding NH) and the score at yahoo jp

But yeah most hated movie of japan was little over the top. More likely most hated naruto movie

Edited by Nar123, 31 December 2014 - 03:03 AM.

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