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[Gravenimage]

Oh thanks..!!! No doubt. the interview became a serious business for other fandoms, to throw us stones and stated as we are dead..

Actually to S/S fans:

1. The interview was the only piece of evidence that supports their pairing because "to them " Kishi said that Sakura still loves Sasuke when we already know that is FALSE.

2. 484 they believe Sakura hesitated in killing Sasuke it means she loves him, even when he tried to kill her three times.

That's the only proof they had to believe that S/S still alive and kicking in the manga.

To N/H fans:

1. They believe the interview as a sign that Kishi will make their pairing canon.

2. In truth Kishi got annoyed for so much talk about Hinata always Hinata this and Hinata that.

3. "They believed " Kishi said that Hinata is more of a heroine than Sakura. when that is very FALSE. Kishi said Sakura is the heroine not Hinata.

4. "They believed " that Kishi didn't said a thing about Hinata's role in the manga in 2010 because it's his way to surprise them that he will make N/H canon.

5. They believed the interview was pro N/H and anti N/S. when it seemed more anti Hinata and pro N/S.

Well any question?

Edited by Gravenimage, 05 March 2010 - 02:44 PM.

[crazyefra]

Where can I find the full interview?

[ciardha]

I didn't know that. So they are people that the only reason they support Naru/Sasu is because they are supporters of homosexuality, I guess you can learn something new every day.

Actually I'm a very strong supporter of GLBT rights and I strongly dislike most yaoi because most yaoi is full of ugly stereotypes of gay men. I also dislike most yuri because most of it is male pornographic fantasies that hack off actual lesbians and het women like me who support GLBT rights and are sensitive to stereotypical depictions. Kishimoto, when he's portrayed gay men or probable gay men, and a transsexual male has done better than most in not majorly descending into stereotypes. And no, Naruto doesn't come across as gay or bisexual, not a bit. Now Sasuke does come across in what little we've seen of anything as probable mostly homosexual in his inclinations with just a very slight hetrosexual inclination- Karin's the only female he ever showed any hint of slight attraction to, in other words mostly gay with slight bisexual tendencies. Sai comes across as rather probable homosexual. Haku was a gay crossdresser, and what little feelings Zabuza had were homosexual toward Haku, Orochimaru definitely gay, Kabuto definitely gay, Jyuugo is almost certainly gay.

Kishimoto isn't quite as non stereotypical on the lesbian side, but he's still better than a number of shonen mangaka. The most outright yuri pandering (and yaoi pandering too) wasn't real characters but Konohamaru's messing around with the sexy no jutsu. Konohamaru's comfort level with doing both would rather strongly suggest Konohamaru is bisexual, but he's likely, from what we've seen of his character, dominantly hetrosexual.

The only rather probable lesbian character was Kin- she was rather too aroused by Sakura's hair, and was disinterested in males. Tayuya showed an even more marked disinterest in males, but we didn't see her interact with any females, so I can't say for certain.

I have a strong dislike of the fanfiction and fanart Ino/Sakura yuri. The Ino/Sakura stuff really bugs me because:

1)It's completely noncanon. Sakura is 100% heterosexual, Ino is 100% heterosexual.
2)It's what way too many shonen mangaka do with female friendships- turn them into male pornographic fantasies (Note as well how often the fanfiction plots fall into the typical male fantasy of lesbians, where they end up in a threesome with a guy- something real lesbians would have zero interest in, guys have no sexual interest for lesbian women- in fact a naked male is a complete sexual turn off for a lesbian. Also, addressing the subject of bisexual women- in reality bisexual women aren't into threesomes in any higher percentage than heterosexual women either, and highly resent the stereotype that they are.) , while male friendships are never pornofied in shonen manga. Kishimoto has not gone into this way too overdone territory in shonen manga, and shows female friendships in realistic lights, the same way he does male friendships.
3) Some of the biggest fans of Ino/Sakura yuri are the same people who throw the biggest fits over Sasuke/Naruto yaoi.

Edited by ciardha, 05 March 2010 - 04:17 PM.

[catsi563]

to paraphrase Freud a bit. Sometimes a friendship is jsut a friendship.

just because two guys/girls share a close close friendship or bond does not in anyway automatically make them gay or gay leaning.

Sasuke is clearly not gay, as his interest in karin is quite obvious and as is his friendship towards Naruto. Sasukes problem is that he is Hyper Focused on his goals to the point of exclusion of all other things. people who are hyper focused can even forget to eat. this doesnt make them anorexic does it?

Haku "May" have been gay though no real evidence supposts that conclusion. Also as in japan there is a long history of Male actors portraying female roles in theater the notion may be as simple as Haku dressing as a girl to evoke a feeling of helplessness so people eill underestimate him.

There is no evdence whatsoever to support Zabusa being gay. at worst he had a strong parental feeling towards Haku. The age difference is clear between them in that regard, and such older sempai, younger Kohai relationships are not uncommon.

Orochimaru and Kabuto i can support them both being gay, On orochimarus side its as much a tool rather then actual feelings. Orochimaru is a clear sociopath who would use the feelings of men and women as needed for his agenda ((read Anko))

As to Kin possibly ill grant though the context of the scene was that she was berating Sakura for her taking care of her hair as opposed to being a ninja. the scene was about Sakura and had no real context to show anyones feelings aside form Sakura feeling useless and Kin feeling smug.

Tayuya theres no indication either way, because I personal have known girls who were jsut as coarse and just as disintereste din the male gender as her and were perfectly content to be on their own. They werent lesbians at all, they just plain werent interested.

simply put as with a lot of NaruHina and SasuSaku arguments, waaaaay too many people sometimes read entirely too deeply into certain scenes and put meaning where there isnt.

[narukunsakuchan]

It's from the complete interview since N/H and S/S fans posted half of the script it explains why it wasn't so believable in the first place. I read the complete interview and there's a part where Kishi said that he thought he made Sakura an honest person during her confession. It's funny how they say that N/S is dead because they have been saying that since 181 and yet Kishi has show them wrong dozens of times.

where did you read the complete interview? I am interested in reading it myself

[ShippudenGirl]

Uhh, ermm new topic anyone? x)

[ShippudenGirl]

Shippu-chan how about if sakura likes naruto as a friend or as romantic? there is alot of evidence for romantic

Well, Goku-kun
There's sufficent evidence that her feelings are not those of brother/sister, friend/friend, because...

1. She said she loves Naruto with a blush (romantic feelings)

2. When she's about to feed him she leans in real close flirtatiously (romantic feelings/intentions)

3. Physical contact- They seem awfully comfortable when they touch each other (Ex: Hug scene. When Naruto saved her he put her down on the water and was touching her back still knelt down next to her) (romantic in a sense)

There's no denying that she has romantic feelings for him, this is the second time now that she's stood up for Naruto against Sasuke. Sakura is also a better person around Naruto, she's able to be herself and not a fangirl that only has immature thought in her inner self (Ex: When Naruto tried to play a prank on Kakashi Sakura said she tried to stop him, but her inner self was like "Thats so cool" and etc)...
Naruto is also been there for her, he's almost like a shoulder to cry on that gives het faith in his promise (Though the promise is over)
On Naruto's part his evidence is the same as Sakura's, he admitted his feelings, but the differents is that his feelings for her in the beginning are kinda like how Sakura felt for Sasuke. Now, I think his feelings are a lot more serious and he's taking everything slow.

As for an SS argument I'd have to say SS is pretty much at the end of the line. Evidence?

1. As stated, Sakura's feelings were never ones of true love, just getting the cute guy.

2. Sasuke has a sour attitude in Part 1 and Sakura doesn't care, as said she's out for the looks which obviously don't seem to matter anymore.

3. There never was, never will be an SS, Sasuke never had feelings for Sakura as anything more then a team-mate, though even then he made her feel like a burden. It takes 2 to tango.

4. He tried to kill her three times

Okay, there ya' go Goku-kun. How's that fir a nice little debate? ^^ hehe.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 06 March 2010 - 01:32 PM.

[ShippudenGirl]

Lmao. x) Okay, maybe not lust, I'll change that.

[Hopestar]

Nice inputs Shippuden & Goku

Everything is out in the open between Naruto & Sakura. Kishi will make them canon but towards the end which i think we are coming close to anyways. Kishi siad his plot is done and the way how the story is I think it will end either the end of this year or middle of next year.

Sasuke's plot & development is done and we are moving towards the other 3 original team 7 members. Kakashi will be getting some spotlight since Tsunade is still comotose & Danzo's dead. Sakura & Naruto will be at distance for awhile. Don't get mad at me for saying that but Naruto is a real dumbass espcially when it comes to Sakura's feelings! We should get more answers on Naruto's parentage and see some training from him & Sakura.

[Devil Keyz]

4. He tried to kill her three times

you have to be a STUPID muthaf***** to love someone that tried to kill you 3 times. and Sakura Isn't stupid.

[ShippudenGirl]

you have to be a STUPID muthaf***** to love someone that tried to kill you 3 times. and Sakura Isn't stupid.

Exactly my point

[firegirl]

im debating again

I thought it was a general consensus on this site,that when Kishi uses a 3rd party to comment on something,it's his way of using that 3rd party as narrative and it's therefore true.
It's true that Sakura's POV is missing mostly in pt2,but to use Sai (the one who doesn't understand emotions) of all people should tell you something,especially the way he was right with N-->S.

[lolaMarie]

I dunno...after his first attempt to kill her, she still couldnt kill him. Maybe I'm more vengful than Sakura, but I would have stabbed him. If I still felt like it was to hard to do then I sure as hell would'nt have got near him a second time. Methinks Kishi overestimates love (platonic and romantic).

[Gravenimage]

I'm beginning to think that Sakura couldn't kill Sasuke because of Naruto. I mean yeah she could still cares for him because he's her friend and teammate, but I think the main reason she couldn't kill him it's because of Naruto. She knows how deep his bond with Sasuke is and she knows that if he kills him he will be devastated and he will never forgive her for what she did. So in truth Sakura couldn't kill him because she values Naruto's feelings more over her own or her own morals to execute a traitor from her village.

Edited by Gravenimage, 06 March 2010 - 11:21 PM.

[ShippudenGirl]

I'm beginning to think that Sakura couldn't kill Sasuke because of Naruto. I mean yeah she could still cares for him because he's her friend and teammate, but I think the main reason she couldn't kill him it's because of Naruto. She knows how deep his bond with Sasuke is and she knows that if he kills him he will be devastated and he will never forgive her for what she did. So in truth Sakura couldn't kill him because she values Naruto's feelings more over her own or her own morals to execute a traitor from her village.

Yep
I think so too. Even last chapter she said "He still thinks of you as a friend" then she looked sad when she looked at Naruto, I don't know.

[Gravenimage]

Yep
I think so too. Even last chapter she said "He still thinks of you as a friend" then she looked sad when she looked at Naruto, I don't know.

Yeah unfortunately S/S fans believe she didn't kill him because she loves him.

[ShippudenGirl]

Yeah unfortunately S/S fans believe she didn't kill him because she loves him.

Oh, really.

•Sakura was determined to kill Sasuke no matter what, but was a fluke in the end remembering past Sasuke.

•Sasuke is (Kinda) part of the Akatsuki, and Sakura promised to protect Naruto from them.

•Nothing says "Gee-will-icurs, Sasuke I'm so in love with you, stab me again you beast!" that's true love right there *rolls eyes*

•Why would Sakura put Naruto in second place? She didn't lie that she loves him. Naruto is a strong, funny, caring guy that treats Sakura right.

•Go tell SS fans to see how Sasuke treated Sakura in part 1 Haha, that's what I thought!

[Hopestar]

Shippuden

We have for the last few years and they are still... no are contend on living in their own world because they can't aceept the fact that Kishi is pushing towards NS. Debating against them is almost as furtile as NH. We have much more evdience so its almost meaningless to do so anymore unless Kishi pulls something from a hat again.