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[ichigo500]

Sakura (or Hinata) is too busy using Himawari as a mop.

fixed it.

[Michi]

 
You can believe what you want, but as I stated, an outspoken fringe group on an anti-tumblr account doesn't equate to being the consensus of an entire demographic. 

Why "anti"? Because they telling truth? Those statements really describe true situation in the movie. If you tell something, call those who gives positive reviews as biased, not those who telling right things.

^he pretty much said what I wanted to respond lol.

fixed it.

Edited by Michi, 20 February 2015 - 01:54 AM.

[Atheck]

Why "anti"? Because they telling truth? Those statements really describe true situation in the movie. If you tell something, call those who gives positive reviews as biased, not those who telling right things.

 

Your notions of truth aren't held as some universal standard by everyone so it would be inappropriate to try and assert this argument of universal dislike and resentment that the likes of you apparently harbours as the sentiment most carry across the forums dedicated to Naruto. And yes, that tumblr account linked has consistently spoken and acted with a prejudicial viewpoint against the series and Kishi. They can dislike and censure Naruto all they want, but they shouldn't attempt to paint themselves as impartial. 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Your notions of truth aren't held as some universal standard by everyone so it would be inappropriate to try and assert this argument of universal dislike and resentment that the likes of you apparently harbours as the sentiment most carry across the forums dedicated to Naruto. And yes, that tumblr account linked has consistently spoken and acted with a prejudicial viewpoint against the series and Kishi. They can dislike and censure Naruto all they want, but they shouldn't attempt to paint themselves as impartial. 

       

They describe movie as it is:

- Pretty far from canon

- OOC characters

And etc.

My notions of truth may be not held by someone as standart, but that's doesn't change anythings in reality, call them biased, not other people who spoke real facts. I alredy met alot of people who has extremly different  notions of what is right and what is wrong, that's doesn't change anythings, white is white, black is black, and kitten is kitten. So try to be more polite to people here.

[Advaith]

um hello, new series and movie run mainly by the anime team? sound familar? * looks at the last and the ending and the bolt movie coming soon and the novels * its like the 10x worse version  of gt, naruto style, just because I'm comparing it doesn't mean I hate it dude xD I'm saying dbz wasn't overblown like naruto is right now, because it actually ended and gt was a side thing trying to make it what it isn't xD

Umm hello,Gt didn't change it's main character,instead it focused too much on MC and completely ignored the rest that along with reverting goku back into a kid was one of it's faults.Gt story started where dbz stopped,uub,If u take that last concept of usage of dragon balls creating negative energy it is quite good for an ending and goku running off with shenron despite the silliness and logic it did reflect to little goku starting to collect dragon balls in db,but it was poorly executed.Too much of goku hype and ssj4 was all unnecessary but it didn't cross the boundaries of dbz to that extent,it remained in circle,if u know what i'm talking about.Despite being crap they still pulled out some last minute things like keeping vegeta equal with goku by going ssj4(but poorly executed).Also aliens from space and hell are nothing new to dbz,it's just that they handled it very very poorly and was terribly executed.It was unnecessary to begin with but could have done at least average if handled properly.Character designs,music especially was very lame.Lastly it is already said that it is not canon unlike this new naruto series.

 

It would have been a good story but was executed very poorly and it's faults over weighed it heavily that's why gt was total crap.

 

This milking of naruto is another level apart from gt,what story are they continuing ? the manga's ? manga's story ended with 700,gt was the non canon story continuation of the canon story MC goku who is this here  ? story of ninjas ? are they ninjas anymore ? it is new york city not even a village ? technology ? popular hilarious fanservice and ending,this was turned into something it's not.They are doing/creating something entirely different,a new plateau with a new story of a new MC unlike gt,all it has is some OOC illogical old characters and the banner naruto.That's why i said it should not be compared.Fact that they both milked is right but this is something else.

Edited by Advaith, 19 February 2015 - 10:04 PM.

[Atheck]

       

They describe movie as it is:

- Pretty far from canon

- OOC characters

And etc.

My notions of truth may be not held by someone as standart, but that's doesn't change anythings in reality, call them biased, not other people who spoke real facts. I alredy met alot of people who has extremly different  notions of what is right and what is wrong, that's doesn't change anythings, white is white, black is black, and kitten is kitten. So try to be more polite to people here.

 

I've been exceedingly polite so far. Your standards of courtesy might be a tad more exclusive, but they don't apply to everyone. The notions of what's characteristic and in keeping with the established canonicity is a matter of interpretation for the most part. Tidbits such as the use of shadow clones by Naruto as a small child when it was already shown explicitly in the manga that he was a dunderhead incapable of creating even one decent clone until he was 12 years old is the exception. Granted, much of the evidence pointed towards a less than conventionally accurate portrayal of what the manga was supposedly aiming towards prior to the final few chapters, but nothing was set in stone until Kishi drew the last page. The movie's reception in the West, while likely to be more positive compared to Japan's, will be appearing in the near future. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

We did make 50 Shades big. I want to move...

[AHK]

Hey @tricksie, did you ever see the comparison between Kishi's rendering of Hinata and SP's version? Lol

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I've been exceedingly polite so far. Your standards of courtesy might be a tad more exclusive, but they don't apply to everyone. The notions of what's characteristic and in keeping with the established canonicity is a matter of interpretation for the most part. Tidbits such as the use of shadow clones by Naruto as a small child when it was already shown explicitly in the manga that he was a dunderhead incapable of creating even one decent clone until he was 12 years old is the exception. Granted, much of the evidence pointed towards a less than conventionally accurate portrayal of what the manga was supposedly aiming towards prior to the final few chapters, but nothing was set in stone until Kishi drew the last page. The movie's reception in the West, while likely to be more positive compared to Japan's, will be appearing in the near future.

You still have no grip on what I'm talking about, have you?
Facts:
- Tons of asspulls, OOCness and other huge bs in this movie.
Nothing of main plot points in this movie was established in the manga, period.  
The number of people be it casuals, nH tards or people with others reason's to like bs they saw, that's doesn't change anything. Don't use hypocrisy "nothing was set in stone", because it was, but I guess you are more open to retcons then I am, so be it.

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And I'm not arguing about will movie succed in west or not. Just stating that number doesn't mean anything posivtive in terms of decribing quality or at least consistency of story they show.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 19 February 2015 - 10:28 PM.

[Popuri]

Wow, they only released a little over a hundred thousand copies this week. Clearly they know, their product is kitten and people are less likely to buy.

 

No matter how pretty they try to dress up Hinata, she's still a side character. No matter how pretty the try to dress up the Last, it's still the worse Naruto movie, ever created. No matter how pretty they try to dress up the pairings, nearly all of them, still look like underdeveloped garbage. And no matter how pretty they try to dress up this volume ending, it's still the most rushed and unsatisfying ending, I have ever seen.

 

Sigh, it's really a shame what Naruto has become, but hopefully the people who ruined the series, will get their kumuppins.

What's kumuppins? Such a cute word   No, really. This is the first time I hear that word. 

[Popuri]

Anyway, what's new?

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Anyway, what's new?

Nothing, other then I'm hungry now... 

[Atheck]

You still have no grip on what I'm talking about, have you?

Facts:
- Tons of asspulls, OOCness and other huge bs in this movie.
Nothing of main plot points in this movie was established in the manga, period.  
The number of people be it casuals, nH tards or people with others reason's to like bs they saw, that's doesn't change anything. Don't use hypocrisy "nothing was set in stone", because it was, but I guess you are more open to retcons then I am, so be it.

And I'm not arguing about will movie succed in west or not. Just stating that number doesn't mean anything posivtive in terms of decribing quality or at least consistency of story they show.

No, I understand perfectly what you're trying to explain. It's the same rehashed grievances that the same tight-knit group of people on this site and tumblr have been griping over for the last three months. Poking holes into the so-called narrative, digging for presumed truths that damage Kishi/Pierrot's credibility further, and creating some illusionary mass faction of ostracised antis that happen to share in the grievances you hold towards the manga/series. Don't try to assert your viewpoints as an absolute certainty for interpreting the series because it just paints the fandom in an even more dubious light.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey @tricksie, did you ever see the comparison between Kishi's rendering of Hinata and SP's version? Lol

Link it. It's going to be good on how her thoughts.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

No, I understand perfectly what you're trying to explain. It's the same rehashed grievances that the same tight-knit group of people on this site and tumblr have been griping over for the last three months. Poking holes into the so-called narrative, digging for presumed truths that damage Kishi/Pierrot's credibility further, and creating some illusionary mass faction of ostracised antis that happen to share in the grievances you hold towards the manga/series. Don't try to assert your viewpoints as an absolute certainty for interpreting the series because it just paints the fandom in an even more dubious light.

Okay, it seems I'm missing something. Please, explain to me, how pointing out inconsistency in the story telling, is something bad. I even theoreticaly have a little to no chances to damage Kishimoto's credibility more than he did it by himself. And be sure, I'm not trying to push my opinion about this movie on anyone at all. From your attitude, I can't see why you arguing here. You seems to be pretty ok with anything until now, so please, tell me, why don't you go to some NH fandom places to gather info about movie, if you see nothing wrong in retcons and bs in the last. Be sure, no one here will think bad of you. 

[FireFox]

Nothing, other then I'm hungry now... 

 

 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

 

You... how could you 

>_<

Would I say if supper wasn't almost ready  

[AHK]

Link it. It's going to be good on how her thoughts.

I can't remember what page it was on

[FireFox]

You... how could you 

>_<

Would I say if supper wasn't almost ready  

Sorry I'm a sadistic bastard and you were setting yourself up and I just could let it pass   .

 

LOL Ok suffer some more till then 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 19 February 2015 - 11:04 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Sorry I'm a sadistic bastard and you were setting yourself up and I just could let it pass   .

 

LOL Ok suffer some more till then 

That's like x2 hit