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[TouKen4Life3g]

Just an argument both for and against the significance of a kiss to the cheek in anime:  History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi.  Miu kisses Kenichi on the cheek in chapter... 423? (finally, dammit!  Geez, how much longer was that girl going to keep calling him "not a boyfriend... more like a slow pet?"), and it does sort of signify them starting to date, but there's been no real physical follow-up... (well, unless you consider the whole trip to Tidat, including Kenichi literally throwing his body in the path of a massive sword-swing in order to protect Miu, and him carrying her in his arms for several chapters while she fades in and out of consciousness, a "physical" follow up; poor guy didn't even get a real hug in thanks, just a "oops, got carried away" beating during a spar)

Well kiss on the cheek can only lead to two roads: pairing or no pairing at all. Didn't read that manga, but sounds like they didn't follow up well enough. Odd because I think that manga got tons of fanservices. Maybe if it's because of chapter covers, but eh, who knows.

[T XD]

It would seem that no one knows what Sasuke's true goal. We are hinted bits-by-bits that there is still darkness in him as well as willing to not cooperate the alliance on a good term. Juugo knows that's bs that Sasuke wants to save and become Hokage because that's not like him to begin with. Is that plan just happened because of what he come up with during Hashirama's story? Does Sasuke truly thinks that becoming Hokage would be easy like that? No, Juugo knows well enough that Sasuke is hiding something and Sai easily caught on. Sakura caught on as well because of their past history and what not, so not only she doesn't trust him because of what's happening now but she based it off from their relationship, which is bad. Shikamaru never trusted him, so his reaction in 635 is like "I knew it..." but smart enough to not to spread to Ino.

Orochimaru is not good, rather just waiting for that "wind" from Sasuke to happen. The funny thing is that he didn't say it out loud to Tsunade as he was addressing that people does change. That's true, but his change will be reflected when Sasuke's "wind" is commence. He wants to see the newfound plan, rather than destruction like Kabuto and Orochimaru. Not only that, but this is the same as KN4 incident, where Kabuto healed Sakura because they need "backup" in which case Orochimaru is doing it. That's why I don't trust anyone who's associated with Sasuke at this point.

As for Sasuke, what is his plan? From what I gathered, we got that Sasuke wants to kill all threats to the world (Bijuus) and create a new what? Yes, he can say world, but what if it's a new world for me or new world for Itachi. Kishi stopped him for a reason and these simple words can change drastically in their meanings. Next, we got him thinking about Naruto, which has a slash. He then said he'll be the one to destroy the past. So compile it up, perhaps he's plan is to kill all past problems/memories to start anew. He has been talking about the past and has been saying that only he can do it, which is bs but ok. Now the main question is he doing it for his brother or what? That's the only part I'm dealing with.

I think Sasuke wants to delete everything in his past and mainly Naruto cause he's important to him than any other persons that are alive. The others are like follow ups if they get in his way if we may say it like that.

As for the system, it's because this system that is now, killed his brother and his family.

 

Everything that is in his past, he wants to destroy it to begin a new world as in how he sees it that it will be a better world.

Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 07:25 PM.

[desaix]

Well kiss on the cheek can only lead to two roads: pairing or no pairing at all. Didn't read that manga, but sounds like they didn't follow up well enough. Odd because I think that manga got tons of fanservices. Maybe if it's because of chapter covers, but eh, who knows.

 

Well, it is the clear final pairing (even the other girls after Kenichi kind of admit it), and they DID kinda-sorta start dating after that (imposed 4pm curfew, and they're only allowed to hold hands -- not that I recall them having done so since then), but there really hasn't been any physical follow-up since then.  There was a massive "Miu is kidnapped and being brainwashed, let's rescue her" arc (where Kenichi took another level in awesome, but then again he does that every three or four chapters or so) during which he met her long-lost father (who appears to be a villain, but was on his side in this action) and recieved the father's blessing for the relationship.  They're an acknowledged couple, at this point, but... nothing more physical, not even a hug (and they'd hugged before they started dating, which was why I felt the lack of a real hug after the Tidat storyline was so glaring.  I'm wondering if they're trying too hard to match the imposed "rules" of their relationship).  IIRC, in the latest chapter, Kenichi attempted a side-hug... and got thrown for this trouble (it was an accident, but still).

[HauntedCake]

I believe sasuke will try to manipulate Sakura against Naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Oh I see. Ok then, but Kishi seems to be in-depth when trying to address the audience of love or anything real life moment. I feel like he's the one time deal guy because we didn't see any weddings for anyone, so it would feel like NS would be it ,or we didn't see any kiss scene yet we did for comedy. I don't know and who knows. I am just hoping for more moments before finale. It's possible but is my part possible? We'll see.

[StriderC]

I think Sasuke wants to delete everything in his past and mainly Naruto cause he's important to him than any other persons that are alive. The others are like follow ups if they get in his way if we may say it like that.

As for the system, it's because this system that is now, killed his brother and his family.

 

Everything that is in his past, he wants to destroy it to begin a new world as in how he sees it that it will be a better world.

I think its more to do with what he is than who he is tbh. He's a jinchuuriki and remember what he tried to do to the Juubi before.

 

Actually, this makes me wonder. IF the beasts get saved somehow, how and who will extract them? I think it'd be pretty damn angsty if the beasts that are currently housed in Obito gets destroyed.

[T XD]

I believe sasuke will try to manipulate Sakura against Naruto.

I don't think she'll fell for it though. If Sakura fell for it than she did nothing than just repeat when she fell for the attacks of Sasuke's before.

 

Either way, she doesn't trust him, and it will be a moment where she'll tell him that she's not stupid and her being fury. That's a good set up for Sakura to do that.

Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You got to admit, that's a good step for Sakura, not trying to sound biased. I'm glad she didn't fall for it. The only question is will there be more to it?

[StriderC]

I don't think she'll fell for it though. If Sakura fell for it than she did nothing than just repeat when she fell for the attacks of Sasuke's before.

 

Either way, she doesn't trust him, and it will be a moment where she'll tell him that she's not stupid and her being fury. That's a good set up for Sakura to do that.

I think Kishis gonna build up on this (her trust issues). There's likely not gonna be any manipulation considering he's not her enemy. What gains would we have with manipulating her is the question. What's more is that the manipulation will require her to actually trust him in some way. I don't see her playing the trick card again in the future if she stands against Sasuke, that's exactly what she's gonna do.

Edited by StriderC, 21 July 2013 - 07:40 PM.

[T XD]

I think its more to do with what he is than who he is tbh. He's a jinchuuriki and remember what he tried to do to the Juubi before.

 

Actually, this makes me wonder. IF the beasts get saved somehow, how and who will extract them? I think it'd be pretty damn angsty if the beasts that are currently housed in Obito gets destroyed.

I think that a reason also at the same time. Sasuke can't live with Naruto cause he's a main part of his past.

 

Someone, probably Naruto or maybe it has to do with the Sage of the Six Paths, will extract them and their power maybe will be transferred to Naruto, or sealed somewhere.

Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 07:41 PM.

[bthug]

So you guys really think Sasuke will try to use/manipulate Sakura against Naruto? Do you think it will happen soon or in the final battle? Also will it out of desperation or an initial plan?

 

I actually dont think he will try that all, I think their will be a moment where Sakura stands up for Naruto, whether its taking a blow, trying to fight sasuke himself, or idk soemthing along those lines

[Psychox]

So you guys really think Sasuke will try to use/manipulate Sakura against Naruto? Do you think it will happen soon or in the final battle? Also will it out of desperation or an initial plan?

 

I actually dont think he will try that all, I think their will be a moment where Sakura stands up for Naruto, whether its taking a blow, trying to fight sasuke himself, or idk soemthing along those lines

 

I think that Sakura will never betray Naruto no mater the situation .

 

We all want to see that ^^

[T XD]

I think Kishis gonna build up on this (her trust issues). There's likely not gonna be any manipulation considering he's not her enemy. What gains would we have with manipulating her is the question. What's more is that the manipulation will require her to actually trust him in some way. I don't see her playing the trick card again in the future if she stands against Sasuke, that's exactly what she's gonna do.

I think her trust issues with Sasuke will lead for a moment that she'll stand up in front of him and will say what she's thinking. Either to defend Naruto or when Sasuke will turn heels and leave when this battle ends or anything that will trigger Sakura to confront him.

 

Sakura is a character who can't hold her patience long enough with people that do something bad or repeat the same bad thing.

Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 07:48 PM.

[StriderC]

I think that a reason also at the same time. Sasuke can't live with Naruto cause he's a main part of his past.

 

Someone, probably Naruto or maybe it has to do with the Sage of the Six Paths, will extract them and their power maybe will be transferred to Naruto, or sealed somewhere.

I don't feel that way. This is likely due to how they've been interacting in these past chapters. I don't feel as though he has this irresistible hate for Naruto and I don't think it has anything to do with the past. I could be wrong about this but we shall see as the chapter pan out.

[T XD]

So you guys really think Sasuke will try to use/manipulate Sakura against Naruto? Do you think it will happen soon or in the final battle? Also will it out of desperation or an initial plan?

 

I actually dont think he will try that all, I think their will be a moment where Sakura stands up for Naruto, whether its taking a blow, trying to fight sasuke himself, or idk soemthing along those lines

No, it's just a matter of something possible at the end or during this battle.

[StriderC]

I think her trust issues with Sasuke will lead for a moment that she'll stand up in front of him and will say what she's thinking. Either to defend Naruto or when Sasuke will turn heels and leave when this battle ends or anything that will trigger Sakura to confront him.

 

Sakura is a character who can't hold her patience long enough with people that do something bad or repeat the same bad thing.

Yeah. I don't see a repeat of the summit when it comes to how Sakurs handled it nor do I see Sasuke acting as he did there either. If anything, he'll see and understand just how much Naruto means to her. I'd love to see his reaction to that actually.

[StriderC]

One thing is certain for me though. Sakura ain't gonna go walking into any future situations like she did before. Just her reaction to Sai speaks volumes. There's nothing pro SS about it. Its the first times she's actively looked at his character and she's responding with her head and not her heart. I'm anxious to see what she's gonna do afterwards.

[T XD]

Yeah. I don't see a repeat of the summit when it comes to how Sakurs handled it nor do I see Sasuke acting as he did there either. If anything, he'll see and understand just how much Naruto means to her. I'd love to see his reaction to that actually.

You know, I too think that sooner or later, Sasuke will see how much she loves Naruto and what he means to her. I always had this thought of a panel of him if this occurs.

 

One thing is certain for me though. Sakura ain't gonna go walking into any future situations like she did before. Just her reaction to Sai speaks volumes. There's nothing pro SS about it. Its the first times she's actively looked at his character and she's responding with her head and not her heart. I'm anxious to see what she's gonna do afterwards.

Don't you think it's the second time cause of 540 ? She thought of him how dark he is.

Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 07:59 PM.

[Psychox]

You know, I too think that sooner or later, Sasuke will see how much she loves Naruto and what he means to her. I always had this thought of a panel of him if this occurs.

 

Don't you think it's the second time cause of 540 ? She thought of him how dark he is.

 

God  i hope Sasuke does not feel like that for Naruto, but sure hope for Sakura ^

[StriderC]

You know, I too think that sooner or later, Sasuke will see how much she loves Naruto and what he means to her. I always had this thought of a panel of him if this occurs.

 

Don't you think it's the second time cause of 540 ? She thought of him how dark he is.

I think he'll either see it when she defends him if she should confront him later down the line or it'll be in her actions from here on out. Either would be fine but both would be a bonus for us. Lol

 

I didnt count 540 since she was only thinking about him then. There's no telling of she still had hope there or not. Its shown here that she outright doesn't trust hon with is sort of different from the moment in 540 if you ask me. :-)