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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Question : What do you think of Narusaku?
the answer is "your question basically says agree with me"

this is the reason why i dont mess with pairing wars.

Ok your question basically says "agree with me"

But this pairing isn't going to happen for a few reasons. For one, Sakura lied to Naruto already about loving him and he was pretty pissed about it. Secondly, as shown in the last episode Sakura still loves Sasuke and this was also evident when she failed to stab him when he was blinded.

The most important reason this won't happen is because they basically have nothing in common. There is nothing that suggests Naruto really likes her anymore. Lately it's been made pretty obvious that Hinata will end up with Naruto after the war.

And at risk of seriously pissing off the American fanbase, I live in Japan. Sakura is one of the most hated characters here because she's viewed as a self-absorbed, immature, fickle little girl. When Sasuke battles the Konoha 11, word is going around that he puts her under genjutsu and then kills her in front of Naruto, after announcing Fifth Hokage is dead and Kakashi is down for the count. Sasuke also takes down Obito against Kakashi's objections and has his Susan'no twist his head off like a can opener heh

Fact is that the creator himself has stated he doesn't really find Sakura to be a compelling character anymore. Either she will end up alone and alive or dying alongside Sasuke.

Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 02:55 PM.

[T XD]

^ Somewhat exactly my point of what some rabid shippers thinks sometimes except that i didn't let hell break loose.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 02:58 PM.

[Nefertieh]

Why is everyone looking at Yahoo answers and the anti-FC? Why does anyone even take the bad arguments seriously? You realize that putting on caps lock and raging does not make a better argument, right?

Debate is about facts, not about how much you dislike the anti.

[Arachnia]

Question : What do you think of Narusaku?
the answer is "your question basically says agree with me"

this is the reason why i dont mess with pairing wars.

this reminds me of southpark jezus xD but the cat was better

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He says that lives in Japan does not show any proof of that.
i checked his IP with some hacking tools, it's from US.
ad hominem, "i live in Japan so your arguments is invalid."

he does not know that to live in Japan u must have at least distant relative to japanese or receive invite for college, i'm not even going to discuss here, he thinks that japan is a wonderfull country when it's not.

[Arachnia]

I will share with you this new information on a person that is clearly a NH fan :
http://answers.yahoo...13042547AAqQFKy

I was asking what everyone thinks about Naruto and Sakura to know what others thinks till now, and there's this user called richard, which he's clearly is a somewhat rabid NH fan and a speaker of new reasons of why NS 'won't happen' and clearly hates Sakura plus the other reasons are what all the NH fans always say so nothing new and they start from the the first two paragraphs, and about what he said of Japan...... i won't say anything cause if i did, let's just say that all hell breaks loose.

Why a speaker of new reasons of why NS won't happen ? The answer is to begin reading from " And at risk from...", the scene that he invented is very abusive of Sakura, if you imagine the action taken and like when you're reading the manga. Plus what boils my blood is that he speaks of Kishi saying something very illagitimate about Sakura while Kishi HATES that some people talk about his heroine like this.

N.B: The scene that the user described is very disturbing, well i was disturbed, unless you're sure of yourself on whatever you will feel. Just saying.

BTW was Sakura not more popular in japan with fans just asking not sure about this?

[T XD]

Why is everyone looking at Yahoo answers and the anti-FC? Why does anyone even take the bad arguments seriously? You realize that putting on caps lock and raging does not make a better argument, right?

Debate is about facts, not about how much you dislike the anti.

I know that, i just want to show what other fans have in mind and for us to know more.
Of course putting on caps lock and raging does not make a better argument, i use caps lock to emphasize something. And no i don't dislike the anti forums.
Like this question below.

BTW was Sakura not more popular in japan with fans just asking not sure about this?

Yea, she's more popular in Japan, that guy is just fooling the others.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 07:40 PM.

[Transformers03]

And that ^ is why I really don't like to debate, especially about shipping . People just have so much blind certainty that their "OTP" will happen that they pretty much just block out everything else. I personally don't care what a person chooses to ship but when they decided to run around saying that it's cannon (when it's not) and that every other pairing has no chance of happening that's when s*** gets annoying . So from my point of view I think it's pointless to waste your time arguing with rabid hardheaded shippers. But that's just me .

I don't debate either, because of the same reasons you pointed out. But I try to be open minded, and not be bias. I want to see all sides of the argument. It just frustrates me that I constantly read comments like that, despite not having any real proof or support from other medias. I do believe everything is going for us, but I'm angry how Naruhina is the bigger ship (especially on the NF) and how I even read neutral fans siding with them.

I just wish................I don't know. Maybe when people watch the latest movie, maybe then they will good idea about the pairing situation. But even then, if people haven't notice through the main series or other media, then I don't think they learn from the movie.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

BTW was Sakura not more popular in japan with fans just asking not sure about this?

i dont like when someome start to his opinion with
"I live in Japan so..."
"There's an interview and kishimoto said..." ( without the source)
"It's in an interview..."( without the source)
"I went to Japan so.."

They think that this makes their arguments stronger, in high schools i knew how to debate.

Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 03:08 PM.

[Arachnia]

i dont like when someome start to his opinion with
"I live in Japan so..."
"There's an interview and kishimoto said..." ( without the source)
"It's in an interview..."( without the source)
"I went to Japan so.."

They think that this makes their arguments stronger, in high schools i knew how to debate.

yea i think your right about that if hes from japan i am from the hidden leaf village and eat ramen there.

[candycane-chan]

I don't debate either, because of the same reasons you pointed out. But I try to be open minded, and not be bias. I want to see all sides of the argument. It just frustrates me that I constantly read comments like that, despite not having any real proof or support from other medias. I do believe everything is going for us, but I'm angry how Naruhina is the bigger ship (especially on the NF) and how I even read neutral fans siding with them.

I just wish................I don't know. Maybe when people watch the latest movie, maybe then they will good idea about the pairing situation. But even then, if people haven't notice through the main series or other media, then I don't think they learn from the movie.

nobody cares about development (them i mean) theu care about twilight
anyway we probably said that before but haters are gonna hate
accually when i see discussions about naruto,it's not only sakura that's hated,...tsunade..sasuke..sometimes naruto because he didnt see hinata yet,,,kakashi...obito...rin...what confuses me is that if they hate mst of the characters why do they read the damn manga
and no NH might not even watch the movie except for the hinata jealous part
neutral fans are either hinata fans or hinata fanboys(she slutters alot and apparently from what i've been reading lately guys think it's hot )
but i dont care about what they think i've learned to stick only in my FC and we're getting alot of fansetvice lately so they're probably upset ....good for us

Edited by candycane-chan, 13 September 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[Arachnia]

nobody cares about development (them i mean) theu care about twilight
anyway we probably said that before but haters are gonna hate
accually when i see discussions about naruto,it's not only sakura that's hated,...tsunade..sasuke..sometimes naruto because he didnt see hinata yet,,,kakashi...obito...rin...what confuses me is that if they hate mst of the characters why do they read the damn manga
and no NH might not even watch the movie except for the hinata jealous part
neutral fans are either hinata fans(she slutters alot and apparently from what i've been reading lately guys think it's hot )
but i dont care about what they think i've learned to stick only in my FC and we're getting alot of fansetvice lately so they're probably upset ....good for us

OMG how can you hate kakashi xD those damn haters xD

Edited by Arachnia, 13 September 2012 - 03:15 PM.

[Nefertieh]

I know that, i just want to show what other fans have in mind and for us to know more.
Of course putting on caps lock and raging does not make a better argument, i use caps lock to emphasize something. And no i don't dislike the anti forums.
Like this question below.

You're essentially making a mountain from a molehill. Haters making unjustified claims to legitimize their own pairing? That isn't even worth batting an eyelash to.

Usng caps lock instantly makes a bad argument. It also makes you look insecure.

[Branden]

i dont like when someome start to his opinion with
"I live in Japan so..."
"There's an interview and kishimoto said..." ( without the source)
"It's in an interview..."( without the source)
"I went to Japan so.."

They think that this makes their arguments stronger, in high schools i knew how to debate.

not posting the source yes, saying you went to japan yes.

one problem I do have is when you dont give somebody credit for living in Japan (not just living but being raised). I'm pretty sure that if you were born and raised in Japan you know a bit more about Japanese culture then some random European. Same way a person born and raised in France would know more about French culture then somebody from Cuba.

Kishimoto is Japanese. His manga is influenced by Japanese culture.


EDIT: It's kind of like having a degree in Japanese culture so to speak

Edited by Branden, 13 September 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[Transformers03]

nobody cares about development (them i mean) theu care about twilight
anyway we probably said that before but haters are gonna hate
accually when i see discussions about naruto,it's not only sakura that's hated,...tsunade..sasuke..sometimes naruto because he didnt see hinata yet,,,kakashi...obito...rin...what confuses me is that if they hate mst of the characters why do they read the damn manga
and no NH might not even watch the movie except for the hinata jealous part
neutral fans are either hinata fans(she slutters alot and apparently from what i've been reading lately guys think it's hot )
but i dont care about what they think i've learned to stick only in my FC and we're getting alot of fansetvice lately so they're probably upset ....good for us

Yeah it has been good for us lately..............though I think their fanservices to soon.....

It just think people mix up fact with their own preference. While I do prefer Narusaku, if I say the series going Naruhina, then I wouldn't ship it. But I do see going that way, and A LOT of the outside media (including anime filler, and OPs/EDs) that seems to support that idea. I guess I just truly wish for people to see outside just their preference at times.....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

You're essentially making a mountain from a molehill. Haters making unjustified claims to legitimize their own pairing? That isn't even worth batting an eyelash to.

Usng caps lock instantly makes a bad argument. It also makes you look insecure.

i use capslock only for insults.

[candycane-chan]

OMG how can you hate kakashi xD those damn haters xD

say that to the people who call him whimp,emotional retard,and cockrotchi

BTW: i would like to add that the reason why hinata doesn't have many haters( she has haters but not as much as sakura) is that because she barely appeared...i havent noticed her in the entire manga except three times ,the exam,the confession,and the hand holding ..anything else is just her blushing in the background so there isn't really so much depth it's like she's there and not there at the sametime

[Gravenimage]

Question : What do you think of Narusaku?
the answer is "your question basically says agree with me"

this is the reason why i dont mess with pairing wars.

okay excuse me while I bash my head on a wall .

Seriously that quote is really.

[Arachnia]

You know guys sometimes i read on http://naruto.wikia.com and i cant help the feeling that a naruhina fans are writting it:P did you guys ever checked it out?

[kirabook]

I thought everyone here already knew that majority of the online western fanbase happens to be NH and SS shippers. :/ Why are people acting surprised when other outlets are dominated by said pairings? Of course a lot of shippers are going to comment about NH and SS on a NS question. Of course the wiki is going to be heavily biased.

It's a given.