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Sarada was so clearly meant to be Sasuke and Karins daughter it isnt even funny. the asspull required to make her Sasuke and Sakuras spawn is just absurd.

Yeah, I don't know why kishi need to design her with a glasses when ss is not even use any glasses.
It's really low. It's like when burito has green eyes to just for the shake of a red herring.

[Bail o' Lies]

Yeah, I don't know why kishi need to design her with a glasses when ss is not even use any glasses.
It's really low. It's like when burito has green eyes to just for the shake of a red herring.

He made her for SK  -which means Bolt was originally suppose to be NS (his design is still crap)- and didn't bother to change her for ss. It why he got so many question about it he decided to make the gaiden a ten chapter mini series instead of a one shot like it was originally intended. Yet for some reason still said apparently in another interview. He still left the question open by the end of the gaiden and left the readers decided who Salad's mommy is. I assume out of spite and the fact when the original idea for the gaiden was still when he thought the ending was still successful.

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@bail
Salad is sakura daughter.
It just like I see his attempt with the glasses as unnecessary and stupid.

[Caramelmarmalade]

there's nothing to get nostalgia over if it never meant anything

No no not nostalgia on the character for me. But the atmosphere , the whole idea of ninja world from naruto brought me to like the boruto, ironically. Just a glimpse of the konoha village made me so sad bcs im leaving the series bcs of the crappy end , so when new character; boruto surfaces, Im just so attracted.

[Caramelmarmalade]

A lot of NH are fine with BS for one reason, and that Sarada isn't like Sakura, and by that the majority means that as long as Sarada doesn't hit Bolt, they are okay with her. A lot of NH complained, especially on Tumblr and DA, that the minute Sarada hits Bolt, she is a dead to them as Sakura is to the manga. This is an obvious indicator as to how the majority sees NH and female characters in general.

.....plain ridiculous! I dont see whats wrong with female character hitting the male. It was CREATED solely for fun for comedy, how can they react so seriously ohgosh thats just ..unreasonable..

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.....plain ridiculous! I dont see whats wrong with female character hitting the male. It was CREATED solely for fun for comedy, how can they react so seriously ohgosh thats just ..unreasonable..

Some people doesn't like it.
Personally I just see it as comedy, well it just really a running gag after all.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

.....plain ridiculous! I dont see whats wrong with female character hitting the male. It was CREATED solely for fun for comedy, how can they react so seriously ohgosh thats just ..unreasonable..

They only hate it in this specific case in regards to Naruto and Sakura, solely because they want to use anything to make Sakura look "bad" for Naruto, but as I said previously, I'm willing to bet most, if not all of those haters have a female(s) they love from another series that does the same thing to the main male or some other male they want them paired with and yet they have absolutely no problem with it.

[Catra]

can you really truly see sasuke sleeping with ANYONE? i sure as hell can't. only logical explaniation i can think of that would made sense is if someone cut his nuts off, got a sperm sample and sakura stole it and shoved it up her vag. if they haven't even kissed what makes you think they f ucked?

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I can see him do that.
In fact if this is seinen, he'll do that thing.

[Shadow1275]

can you really truly see sasuke sleeping with ANYONE? i sure as hell can't. only logical explaniation i can think of that would made sense is if someone cut his nuts off, got a sperm sample and sakura stole it and shoved it up her vag. if they haven't even kissed what makes you think they f ucked?

I can. He stated in the beginning he wanted to rebuild his clan and he never said anything to the effect of the opposite. But he said that he wanted revenge first and that was always his character. Revenge first, everything else later.

 

Though the popular theory is that he and Sakura never had sex but that he impregnated her through the forehead poke.

 

 

The one thing I always despised was the idea that Naruto and Hinata having sex and Sasuke and Sakura having sex was considered the ultimate victory to SS/NH fans. It only really speaks to what they cared about in the beginning. Immature self insert sexual fantasies bc real relationships are too much for them. If sex meant total victory and happiness in the realm of relationships than my 1st relationship would have never ended. Or my second. Or my third. Unfortunately in the real world people tend to reject stalkers and jerks who treat them like garbage. And Sex does not equal eternal bliss or even victory. It's merely a product of the real victory: meeting and investing in someone special.

[James S Cassidy]

can you really truly see sasuke sleeping with ANYONE? i sure as hell can't. only logical explaniation i can think of that would made sense is if someone cut his nuts off, got a sperm sample and sakura stole it and shoved it up her vag. if they haven't even kissed what makes you think they f ucked?

I can't see him sleeping with anyone except maybe Karin at best. However, him sleeping with Sakura is such a stretch that not even fanfiction can make me believe it. Plus when and how did he have a time to do this? If you really get down to the nitty gritty on the Naruto timeline, taking in the movies, the Hiden novels and the like...there is no way Sakura and Sasuke had sex at any point. This is especially true when you have to realize that Salad's conception has a very small window because she has to be around the same age as Bolt.

He is hardly ever in the village and even if he is he makes no attempt to be with Sakura at all. She has to find him when he is usually talking to Naruto.
Sasuke just doesn't stay home long enough and he is very indifferent. The only time he stayed home long enough we long and well after Salad was born.
And there is even more evidence to support that he is more likely with Karin than Sakura.

I still can't even get the whole Karin with pregnant Sakura journey they supposedly told. How? Why would Sakura and Karin form a bond like that? How did Sakura find Karin if she was in a secret Orochimaru base that only Sasuke knew apparently and how did Karin not find him when she is by far the best chakra detector?

What makes it even more unbelievable is how did Naruto not know ANY of this? You mean the Hokage knows little to no traffic of what is going in the villaget LET ALONE anything about his best friends? Come on. It is just too much of a stretch for the imagination. There is no way this could all have gone down AND still have Salad be the same age as Bolt especially when it is proven that Naruto wasn't Hokage at the time of Bolt's conception.

There is just too much inconsistencies and what not to make this all believable.

The ONLY way any of this could make sense is if Sasuke had sex with Karin while on the road and for some reason left Karin alone. Karin then goes to Sakura because 1. she is a medical ninja who she can trust and 2. she wanted to keep it a secret (from Orochimaru and others). After the birth, Sakura takes Salad in and keeps it all a secret by fabricating this story how she gave birth while on the road, giving Karin the cord as a memento and Karin gave Sakura her glasses to give to Salad. Sasuke learns of all of this and avoids the village to avoid answering that question because he either can't lie or chooses not to. If he avoids it, he can't lie.

This would explain why there is no marriage, no birth certificate, and no clear cut answer.

But nobody wants to admits this because then it would destroy SS already tarnished reputation. Sasuke and Sakura being a complete lie just to cover up something? We will never know, but occam's razor, it is alot easier to believe that "Sasuke randomly banged Sakura for no reason and then left again for no reason and Naruto knew nothing about this."
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 February 2016 - 08:03 AM.

[Yyubie]

can you really truly see sasuke sleeping with ANYONE? i sure as hell can't. only logical explaniation i can think of that would made sense is if someone cut his nuts off, got a sperm sample and sakura stole it and shoved it up her vag. if they haven't even kissed what makes you think they f ucked?

In sakura novel, i don't know if you already know but allow me to explain a little. There is Sasuke clone, and many people believe sakura do that ritual with the clone.

Sasuke is a power hungry type, in my opinion if he has to choose he will choose karin, he knows karin is an uzumaki just like Naruto he will create strong DNA of Uchiha with her, he knows naruto is strong and he is an Uzumaki. Sakura is just commoner her background never explain. I totally agree with you, he called her annoying 2 times, it's really hard to believe even in fan fiction, we need a VERY CONVINCING story and evidence.

 

I can't see him sleeping with anyone except maybe Karin at best. However, him sleeping with Sakura is such a stretch that not even fanfiction can make me believe it. Plus when and how did he have a time to do this? If you really get down to the nitty gritty on the Naruto timeline, taking in the movies, the Hiden novels and the like...there is no way Sakura and Sasuke had sex at any point. This is especially true when you have to realize that Salad's conception has a very small window because she has to be around the same age as Bolt.

He is hardly ever in the village and even if he is he makes no attempt to be with Sakura at all. She has to find him when he is usually talking to Naruto.
Sasuke just doesn't stay home long enough and he is very indifferent. The only time he stayed home long enough we long and well after Salad was born.
And there is even more evidence to support that he is more likely with Karin than Sakura.

I still can't even get the whole Karin with pregnant Sakura journey they supposedly told. How? Why would Sakura and Karin form a bond like that? How did Sakura find Karin if she was in a secret Orochimaru base that only Sasuke knew apparently and how did Karin not find him when she is by far the best chakra detector?

What makes it even more unbelievable is how did Naruto not know ANY of this? You mean the Hokage knows little to no traffic of what is going in the villaget LET ALONE anything about his best friends? Come on. It is just too much of a stretch for the imagination. There is no way this could all have gone down AND still have Salad be the same age as Bolt especially when it is proven that Naruto wasn't Hokage at the time of Bolt's conception.

There is just too much inconsistencies and what not to make this all believable.

The ONLY way any of this could make sense is if Sasuke had sex with Karin while on the road and for some reason left Karin alone. Karin then goes to Sakura because 1. she is a medical ninja who she can trust and 2. she wanted to keep it a secret (from Orochimaru and others). After the birth, Sakura takes Salad in and keeps it all a secret by fabricating this story how she gave birth while on the road, giving Karin the cord as a memento and Karin gave Sakura her glasses to give to Salad. Sasuke learns of all of this and avoids the village to avoid answering that question because he either can't lie or chooses not to. If he avoids it, he can't lie.

This would explain why there is no marriage, no birth certificate, and no clear cut answer.

But nobody wants to admits this because then it would destroy SS already tarnished reputation. Sasuke and Sakura being a complete lie just to cover up something? We will never know, but occam's razor, it is alot easier to believe that "Sasuke randomly banged Sakura for no reason and then left again for no reason and Naruto knew nothing about this."
 

How funny and ironic that you can come up with a very good and convincing story line rather than whoever write this crap soap opera.

 

Also why they don't have marriage picture, Sakura tapping/covering Karin's picture with her own, maybe it's just me but i believe they NEVER got married. There is no image Sakura pregnant, people said she is pregnant in the gaiden when sasuke explain naruto, and sakura and other kage about this silly threat that he believe bigger than kaguya, but it got covered by speech bubble.

 

So i think they are in relationship, but not bound by marriage, they are in like distant boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, because sasuke never home. Also please correct me if i'm wrong, i already reread the gaiden and observe boruto movie from youtube a little, but NEVER SEE both sasuke and sakura wearing A RING in their fingers.

Edited by Yyubie, 22 February 2016 - 03:25 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Huh i don't think she wears a ring. I just checked the first chapter, she wasn't. Then again, she was doing laundry. Tenth chapter she does not have a wedding ring in the gaiden. Not sure about the bolt movie. 

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 February 2016 - 04:16 PM.

[Yyubie]

The fact that they both not wearing wedding ring really disturb me.

[Bail o' Lies]

Do we have any image of any of these couples wearing wedding ring? 'Cause i can't find one of Naruto wearing one either. 

 

Actually are wedding ring a common custom in Japan?

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 22 February 2016 - 05:01 PM.

[NeonRanger]

Nobody in the manga wears a wedding ring, not even MinaIKushi.

 

It still doesn't excuse SasuSaku. Kishi just sucks at romance. I was told that his wife was the one that helped, though not involved, planned the MinaKushi romance and admitted a women assistant help guide him and Yahagi through chap. 181 (which had SS romantic undertones). My guess is that he had female assistants that helped him through romance, but suddenly dropped and he was left with just putting them together.

 

After all the interviews, I can say that Kishi doesn't care about Naruto.

 

But I can also say that he really doesn't give a damn about any paring except SasuNaruSasu.

 

SNS is the only paring where he admitted that he wanted both Sasuke and Naruto to hold hands at the end of their fight, but his editors told him that it needed to be gory, which is why their arms are cut off. And SNS are the first paring to get a drama CD dedicated to SasuNaru in a way. Then you have Bolt movie which Kishi wrote, and look at the SNS fanservice. I really believe that Kishi ships this couple or just favors it because I never seen him so dedicated to any couple other than SNS. I would say NS as second, but then you have the 5 Kage and War Arc, and Kishi "forgetting" Sakura, so I'm still on the fence.  I know he supported NS at the beginning, but not in a way that one would believe he would care about.

 

I believe he thought NS, SS, and NH all the same and he would definitely sideline NaruSaku/SasuKarin like he did to SS/NH for the sake of SasuNaru. In Gaiden, Sasuke had only contacted Naruto and vice versa for Naruto to Sasuke on the Boruto movie. They are more connected to each other than their wives and the way it happened, I had a inner feeling that it would have happen to NaruSaku as well, and I don't like it at all. I understand how SNS is important but just like Hinata, it made no sense to the plot. Mainly because just like SS, SNS was also onesided. 

 

I remember the Kishi interview with a lengedary mangaka (he created the NS and JiraTsun art) where he called out his obsession for SNS and Sasuke, even though it was very much onesided. Kishi defend himself though, which is why I believe he's a secret SNS shipper...

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@neon
Narusasu is kishi otp, because :
1. They're the plot.
2. Sasuke is kishi favorite character.
3. They're the popular character.

And yes, the same thing will happen to NS just like nh, but there's a different.
Sakura part of team seven and her position as naruto love interest will give her much more role than Hinata ever hope. So NS will not completly sideline like nh. He never see Hinata as high as her fan see her.
For sakura, he give up on her and if you believe that assistant, since 2010 when war arc happen.

Actually they care about using ring and kurenai use it.

[James S Cassidy]

In sakura novel, i don't know if you already know but allow me to explain a little. There is Sasuke clone, and many people believe sakura do that ritual with the clone.

Sasuke is a power hungry type, in my opinion if he has to choose he will choose karin, he knows karin is an uzumaki just like Naruto he will create strong DNA of Uchiha with her, he knows naruto is strong and he is an Uzumaki. Sakura is just commoner her background never explain. I totally agree with you, he called her annoying 2 times, it's really hard to believe even in fan fiction, we need a VERY CONVINCING story and evidence.

 

How funny and ironic that you can come up with a very good and convincing story line rather than whoever write this crap soap opera.

 

Also why they don't have marriage picture, Sakura tapping/covering Karin's picture with her own, maybe it's just me but i believe they NEVER got married. There is no image Sakura pregnant, people said she is pregnant in the gaiden when sasuke explain naruto, and sakura and other kage about this silly threat that he believe bigger than kaguya, but it got covered by speech bubble.

 

So i think they are in relationship, but not bound by marriage, they are in like distant boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, because sasuke never home. Also please correct me if i'm wrong, i already reread the gaiden and observe boruto movie from youtube a little, but NEVER SEE both sasuke and sakura wearing A RING in their fingers.

Going even further down the road.

How come nobody ever saw Sakura pregnant? They make this story that Sakura just up and left as soon as she found out she was having Sasuke's child and searched for 9 months for his whereabouts and couldn't find him.

Like, really? Ino, Naruto, or any other character besides Karin didn't know that Sakura was pregnant?

The more you think about it the harder it is to believe and I guess the studio is just banking on the idea that no one will ever think by the end of the manga. Like all of sudden we jsut accept any half-assed explanation because "We make SS canon....isn't that good enough?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 February 2016 - 09:42 PM.

[Yyubie]

Going even further down the road.

How come nobody ever saw Sakura pregnant? They make this story that Sakura just up and left as soon as she found out she was having Sasuke's child and searched for 9 months for his whereabouts and couldn't find him.

Like, really? Ino, Naruto, or any other character besides Karin knew that Sakura was pregnant?

The more you think about the harder it is to believe and I guess the studio is just banking on the idea that no one will ever think by the end of the manga. Like all of sudden we jsut accept any half-asses explanation because "We make SS canon....isn't that good enough?

That's Kishi and SP they like to play magic. Where everything can happen instantly, anywhere, anytime, without any logic, explanation, or evidence.

[NeonRanger]

@neon
Narusasu is kishi otp, because :
1. They're the plot.
2. Sasuke is kishi favorite character.
3. They're the popular character.

And yes, the same thing will happen to NS just like nh, but there's a different.
Sakura part of team seven and her position as naruto love interest will give her much more role than Hinata ever hope. So NS will not completly sideline like nh. He never see Hinata as high as her fan see her.
For sakura, he give up on her and if you believe that assistant, since 2010 when war arc happen.

Actually they care about using ring and kurenai use it.

 

For the Japanese ring, yeah you're right. My sources were shady Websites like JPToday, which is why I said they don't care. I wonder why Kishi didn't use rings for MinaKushi and other couples though.

 

yeah, that's why I said NS would have been the same as NH towards the end. After Sasori battle, Sakura had no major plot point that defined herself as a character. I saw a lot of her character towards NS, but I wanted a moment that just focuses on her and her growth and problems. I felt that the The minute the Five Kage Arc finished, Kishi has just made his mind up and decided that Sakura and Hinata are paring fodder, no matter which ship was canon, going by the ending. NS would have made sense, but then we would have just ended up canon for the sake of a SNS kid and a new generation overall. 

 

Had NS been canon, we would perhaps be in the same position as NH. It's not bad, if you looks at the fanservice from CC2, and SP's Naruto's family photos. But that's pretty much it. Not even the Bolt movie had NH family moments which pissed of a lot of NH fans. They even advertised Bolt as an SNS child. The paring that benefitted somewhat in the end is SNS. Most were aware that SNS wasn't actually going to be canon, most were pissed at the Last, and SS, but Gaiden and Bolt and CC2 and SP heavily cater to that paring over any other or establish even more about SNS "deep bond". Kishi might like it for those reasons but I can't understand how any average shipper ships SNS. Some of them remind me of SS, because they excuse the toxic relationship. I don't want to force them to hate their ship, but I have to be so careful about SNS towards shippers.  I have to be careful for a lot of yaoi ships, even though I don't mind it, when it comes to shounen.