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#4241 Serenity Namikaze

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 02:40 PM

@ Jenskott

Well said and I totally agreed with you

@ Shippu-chan

He may be Jiraya's student but that alone wasn't what made him prefered women over men. As for the perverted side of his sensei, Naruto have show many time that he didn't approve his teacher perverted mind.

Naruto may be a little perverted ( which guys insn't ) but he still is naive and is a lot more shy compare to Jiraya.

Edited by silverserenity, 03 March 2010 - 02:41 PM.


#4242 ShippudenGirl

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:08 AM

:l I got this post on my YouTube...

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sakura WAS lying and you DO know that kishimoto is thinking of ending Naruto with SasuNaru right?


What do you guys think? I hate when people say that without proof U_U I'm guessing yaoi fan? Yeah, Kishimoto thinks of yaoi as black comedy.

#4243 Serenity Namikaze

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:31 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 4 2010, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
:l I got this post on my YouTube...

What do you guys think? I hate when people say that without proof U_U I'm guessing yaoi fan? Yeah, Kishimoto thinks of yaoi as black comedy.



You're guess is right sister

I don't need to add an argument because I've already did made my point about NaruSasu and it won't change because of that chapter dry.gif

Edited by silverserenity, 04 March 2010 - 03:31 AM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:38 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Mar 4 2010, 04:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're guess is right sister

I don't need to add an argument because I've already did made my point about NaruSasu and it won't change because of that chapter dry.gif


Meaning:
Comedy that uses black humor
Classified under:
Nouns denoting communicative processes and contents
Hypernyms ("black comedy" is a kind of...):
comedy (light and humorous drama with a happy ending)

Yea because Kishimoto just LOVES the idea of a happy gay SasuNaru ending! kruemelmonsteryn0.gif

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:43 AM

A no pairing ending is more likely than a NaruSasu ending tongue.gif

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 03:50 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Mar 4 2010, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A no pairing ending is more likely than a NaruSasu ending tongue.gif


Hopefully. I'd rather have no pairing then SasuNaru, ew. Though Kishimoto obviously is leaning towards NaruSaku >D he-he

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 04 March 2010 - 03:50 AM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 4 2010, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
:l I got this post on my YouTube...



What do you guys think? I hate when people say that without proof U_U I'm guessing yaoi fan? Yeah, Kishimoto thinks of yaoi as black comedy.



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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:19 AM

QUOTE (Devil Keyz @ Mar 4 2010, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Oh no no no! Not in that sense at all! Like I said before.

"Black Comedy" definition:
Meaning:
Comedy that uses black humor
Classified under:
Nouns denoting communicative processes and contents
Hypernyms ("black comedy" is a kind of...):
comedy (light and humorous drama with a happy ending)

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:50 AM

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sakura WAS lying and you DO know that kishimoto is thinking of ending Naruto with SasuNaru right?


You know KISHIMOTO said Sakura was being HONEST, right?

And you know Kishimoto never said he is thinking of ending Naruto with SasuNaru, right?

And you know there are few homosexual characters in shonen manga, and no one of them has been the main character, right?

And you know Naruto isn't gay and Sasuke has sown he is unable to give love to someone other than his demised family, right?

And you know Naruto/Sasuke relationship is rivalry and one-sided or unrequited friendship, and not romantic love, right?

I find amusing how anti-NS claim Sakura was lying when she confessed to Naruto (in spite of the author stating she was being honest), but they instantly assumed she was being sincere when she said she wanted joining Sasuke (in spite of the plot development strongly suggested she was lying, and later chapters proved it). This kind of happenings prove Sakura haters have never understood the character or paid attention to the story.

However I don't find amusing the obsession of the fandom for turning all kind of relationships (friendship, rivalry, enmity, brotherhood and sisterhood, parent/child, master/disciple, lord/liege...) in romantic love. I find it incredibly irritating.

Right like the Tsundere trope they don't understand the Rival trope. Why do they read shonen manga if they don't understand the foundations of the genre?

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:52 PM

Jenskott is right about SasuNaru and about misunderstood tropes. ANS always claim that Sakura MUST hate Naruto because she hits him! Like they've never seen a TsunDere before. I'm sure they have.

And I don't see the connection between rivalry and friendship (somewhat one-sided) and romantic love. They're jumping too far ahead. It's like assuming a cat is a lion because it's in the feline family.

With this pairing they completely throw Naruto's morals, past actions, and even personality out the window. For SN to work, both sides would have to be completely OOC, and even then...

Though, to be fair, some SN fans have admitted that they only support SN because they like it and don't reasonably believe that it will happen - a crack shipping, if you will.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Hopestar @ Mar 3 2010, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto's an dumbass so what can we expect. Sai even said in a way Naruto made a rule for himself and that even includes maintaining distance from Sakura (in a romantic light) until his promise is fulfilled. Even though Sakura broke it off, Naruto is stubborn and refuse to see his relationship with her. We have many people in the story that implied that their relationship more than "friendly" as of late.

We know from Sakura's side its flirtation & more
While Naruto's... what else is there from him besides asking Sakura out exactly? headscratch.gif


this i can 100% agree with along with yhe auther pointing honest naruto will be with sakura but not till the end of the manga when sasuke is redeemed but im shure he sasuke will remain a roage ninja or darth vader deth. Sasuke will probly ask sakura if she will come along naruto will have a sad smile but sakura will refuse and sayshe wants to stay with naruto.

i know sound clinche but somthing in that order.

i agree with serenity-neechan with SN urgh

Edited by SS3 Goku, 04 March 2010 - 01:55 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:47 PM

Guys, from an SS fan:
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Kishi let the events, run throught Sakura. when Sakura attack Sasuke, someone will appear. Like the first, it was Kakashi, and then now its Naruto.
Can you see it? Kishi keeps showing how Sakura loves Sasuke. and with that SS is not yet DEAD.
And besied Naruto is there, and he will tell Sasuke, "WHY CAN YOU HURT, THE ONE THAT LOVES YOU".and besiedes Sakura still hesitate to kill Sasuke, it means she loves him so much. TWICE IN A ROW.
and besides, Sasuke is now on blinding state, of course, he just act impulsively. he never aimed for Sakura, that is just self defense because he is kinda blind.

..your view/interpretation guys? laugh.gif

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Mar 4 2010, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, from an SS fan:

..your view/interpretation guys? laugh.gif

thats jest sad rolleyes.gif

sasuke can sence her chakera signiture he knows its her sleep.gif



ummm ok sakura was trying to kill him for naruto and as a member of team seven.
im to lazy to even try to say more



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Posted 04 March 2010 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Mar 4 2010, 06:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, from an SS fan:

..your view/interpretation guys? laugh.gif


My reaction to the quote wot.gif after reading it facepalm.png and this is my answer. 111189.gif
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (SS3 Goku @ Mar 4 2010, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats jest sad rolleyes.gif


Lay off the insults.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 04:13 PM

Sigh. Here I go:

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Kishi let the events, run throught Sakura. when Sakura attack Sasuke, someone will appear. Like the first, it was Kakashi, and then now its Naruto.


Huh? That isn't what happened.

Sasuke tried killing Sakura, and then he was interrupted. That is what happened both times.

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Can you see it?


What am I supposed to see? Not matter what you have changed what actually happened.

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Kishi keeps showing how Sakura loves Sasuke.


How Sasuke attempting murdering Sakura -the real facts- or Sakura trying killing Sasuke -your confounded version- before being interrupted show she loves him? I would tell it shows the opposite.

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and with that SS is not yet DEAD.


I would tell it has been dead for several hundred of chapters. But believe what you will do.

Though your conclusion is based on fallacies, so what your reasoning doesn't seem sound.

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And besied Naruto is there,


Yes, I saw how happy he looked when he saved Sakura from being murdered by their ex-teammate.

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and he will tell Sasuke, "WHY CAN YOU HURT, THE ONE THAT LOVES YOU".


Ignoring your mispelling... Why the hell would he tell that? Do you realize how stupidly and ridiculously corny it sounds? What bad romance novel you think you are reading?

I guess you were incredibly shocked and stunned when he didn't say that.

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and besiedes Sakura still hesitate to kill Sasuke, it means she loves him so much.


Not necessarily.

Regardless what her current feelings may be, he was her first crush, an old friend and an ex-teammate. He is an old bond, and bonds are very strong in Narutoverse (Do you remember how sad Tsunade and Jiraiya were when they learnt from Orochimaru's demise? And they had known for decades he was a repentless villain. And Tsunade never liked Orochimaru. But he was an old friend and they were sad). And she isn't a cold-blooded murderer. She is liable to hesitate.

Kakashi also hesitated. Several times. And he has killed way more people than Sakura. And Naruto also hesitates, and he wants believing he can save Sasuke without killing him. They also loves him so much?

So no, it doesn't mean she still loves him so much.

And even if she keeps some lingering feelings towards him, she also loves Naruto and she has chosen him. She wants moving on and killing Sasuke so he don't get Naruto killed. That was her choice and after meeting him, seeing what he has done to Karin, being nearly murdered by him twice and rescued by Naruto... she isn't liable to change her mind.

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TWICE IN A ROW.


Twice in a row... What?

QUOTE
and besides, Sasuke is now on blinding state, of course, he just act impulsively. he never aimed for Sakura, that is just self defense because he is kinda blind.


What part of "I want killing all of you!" you haven't understood?

When she showed up, he tried killing her when her back was turned. Will you claim he wasn't aiming at her despite her chidori WAS aiming at her head? And Kakashi stated: "you really were trying killing her"?

Acting impulsively? He KNEW she was behind him. He was fighting against two persons: Kakashi and Sakura. Kakashi was in front of him, and there was another person behind. It could be only Sakura. And Kakashi yelled when he throttled Sakura. Sasuke knew it was her.

Acting impulsively? He spun around, throttled her (if he would have know what it was a girl, the lack of Adam's apple would give it away), hoisted her off her foot (if he wouldn't have known sooner it was Sakura, the weight and size would give it away) and THEN he wrenched her kunai off her hands and tried stabbing it in her face. That is not an impulsive action. And it isn't self-defense. Self-defense would be simply unarming her.

Of course, it isn't the first time he tried killing Sakura. Back in the Orochimaru's Lair, he tried stabbing her with his lightning-charged blade. And after he tried kill all of them with Kirin. So his actions are perfectly in-character.

Honestly, it is... pitiful reading your excuses for Sasuke's behavior.

Sasuke has never loved Sakura and he has tried to kill her four times. He hates Konoha and wants obliterating it. He hates all its inhabitants and wishes slaughtering them. And he has stated that is his way to renew his clan (there was your "he needs Sakura for that!" argument). Do you still think SasuSaku isn't dead?

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:11 PM

what's really funny is people using the Sasuke laughing panel to say "even Sasuke laughs at NaruSaku" and then turning around and being all "SasuSaku SQUEE"

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:14 PM

@Jenskott

That was epic! Your points truely show how dead SS is (Or always have been)

@pharix

Really? Because I'm pretty sure NS wasn't mentioned at all in the chapter... Pff what a cheap excuse :l

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 04 March 2010 - 08:16 PM.


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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:22 PM

different context

its being used as a banner by certian SS fans. the joke being that Sasuke is laughing hysterically at the possibity that Sakura could eve rlove anyone but him.

rather ridiculous notion.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:31 PM

headscratch.gif I've been doing that for the last 3 weeks and I still don't know wtf is wrong with some fans of this manga (ss fans, nh fans, sn fans and saku haters, not all, just the ones that change the manga for their own "satisfaction" like if they were Kishi).
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Naruto: NaruSaku, (Fem)NaruSaku, NaruSasu (as brothers, rivals, best friends), ShikaTema, NaruInoSaku, NaruHarem (excluding Hinata), MinaKushi, ChouIno, YahiKona
Fairy Tail: NatsuLucy, NatsuErza :D
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Naruto: Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Konan, Gaara, Kushina, Kakashi, Ino
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Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
Bleach: Orihime, Chad

Misc.: Yuri :D



Pairings:
Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

Characters:
Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
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Misc.:Twilight, Yaoi, Fillers, Sakura bashing




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