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[TouKen4Life3g]

Kishimoto giving Kaguya Kimimaro's ability was stupid as hell. He didn't even try to make her decent, cause all she was, was a puppet for Black Zetsu. She didn't even come across as bad, just confused.

She suffered greatly of villain becoming complete 100% incompetent with stronger power.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Given how things are now, it's like SP is trying to make Karin look "dirty" and "used" in order to turn off SK fans.

 

I wouldn't put it past them, unfortunately.

[Shadow1275]

Studio Madhouse + Naruto would have been amazing

[soraandven]

https://youtu.be/jKhRVAclCjU this fight is a million times better then the trash fight in the last

[Catra]

so having just finished catching up on korra after that abysmal rench that put me off which was season 1, i can safely say pairings probably ruin everything.

[soraandven]

so having just finished catching up on korra after that abysmal rench that put me off which was season 1, i can safely say pairings probably ruin everything.

korrasami is canon now

[Catra]

so? i could have done without it honestly. in fact i've NEVER cared about avatar couples. ever. =/

[soraandven]

so? i could have done without it honestly. in fact i've NEVER cared about avatar couples. ever. =/

because they were very obvious right

[James S Cassidy]

korrasami is canon now

Which, like Naruto, was the only thing people really cared about in the end for the most part. You can tell this when by the time Korra ended people were more freaked by Korrasami than anything else. They never talked about how Korra really rose above her failings or how creative she was to end the conflicts. Actually, I saw the series and I can't remember the actual conflicts that Korra faced except for one and it was her in a wheelchair. I saw more "Korrasami vs Korramako" pairing wars threads than anything else after that.

Here is the truth, Korra was mediocre and if not for the "bisexual couple" in the end it pretty much would have faded. The ending to it was...

Let me put it this way, Avatar the Last Airbender did everything right and it ended in such a way that was both amazing and genius. it didn't feel like a cop-out or an asspull and even the worst episodes of the series were really good. Aang got with Katara, but that was just the side ice-cream that came with the cake. Even if the couples never happened, it still was a great series. Korra on the other hand, it did the opposite. It relied too heavy on pairings in the end and looking past, even a very special person of mine who LOVES Korra with a passion, agrees that it is not as good as Avatar the Last Airbender and it used the pairings as a crutch. 

It was okay. Not amazingly good, not bad, just okay.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Kishimoto giving Kaguya Kimimaro's ability was stupid as hell. He didn't even try to make her decent, cause all she was, was a puppet for Black Zetsu. She didn't even come across as bad, just confused.

Probably for no other reason than remembering out of the blue that Kimimaro's Clan name was "Kaguya", so that alone "must" completely justify it right? XP

Wouldn't surprise me if that's some next villain to keep milking the series; some other lost/surviving Kaguya Clan member learning that they are somehow directly descended from Kaguya (like the Hyuga were magically forced to be) and pulling more repeat Kaguya-related stuff.

[Bail o' Lies]

Which, like Naruto, was the only thing people really cared about in the end for the most part. You can tell this when by the time Korra ended people were more freaked by Korrasami than anything else. They never talked about how Korra really rose above her failings or how creative she was to end the conflicts. Actually, I saw the series and I can't remember the actual conflicts that Korra faced except for one and it was her in a wheelchair. I saw more "Korrasami vs Korramako" pairing wars threads than anything else after that.

Here is the truth, Korra was mediocre and if not for the "bisexual couple" in the end it pretty much would have faded. The ending to it was...

Let me put it this way, Avatar the Last Airbender did everything right and it ended in such a way that was both amazing and genius. it didn't feel like a cop-out or an asspull and even the worst episodes of the series were really good. Aang got with Katara, but that was just the side ice-cream that came with the cake. Even if the couples never happened, it still was a great series. Korra on the other hand, it did the opposite. It relied too heavy on pairings in the end and looking past, even a very special person of mine who LOVES Korra with a passion, agrees that it is not as good as Avatar the Last Airbender and it used the pairings as a crutch. 

It was okay. Not amazingly good, not bad, just okay.

I agree. Looking back both Korra and Naruto in the end were consumed by their pairings.

 

To be honest I think kishimoto and yahagi really didn't care about the pairings all that much. The only real pairing plot they had was NS which was the slow forging bond between the two character that eventually grew romantic. Then yahagi left and the new guys wanted hinata more involved and the pairing was really truly ignited causing the obnoxious and toxic pairing wars going on today. Then at the end the pairings consumed all the characters' development & personalities as well as the the morals & plot of the story.

 

As for korra after avatar ended their were still people talking about it even before the movie happen (which help boost it prominence) and people would talk about the characters, the plot, the morals, the artwork/animation, and the romances. Korra I barely hear anyone talk about/bring it up anymore and when i do it normally about how "Progressive" the ending was and how more shows should end like it. Come to think of it I haven't even watch Korra since it ended.

 

As for the show it important to remember that it was originally only be one season but it got so popular so quickly that Nick order another season then two more. And it shows.

 

The first season was a self contained story which resolved (most of) it's plot points in the story and could have ended well enough with one season. Season two...had problems (one of them being SP) it had threads that connected it to he other season but once again came off as it own self contain story. Season three and four were the seasons that actually felt connected to each other and had more of an effect with each other more than the other two did.

 

I might more more about the plot later but lets just settle on the pairing for now.

 

Korra and Mako were suppose to be the final pairing (since it was the end pairing of the first season), but it was handled so poorly in season two that they had to break it up and couldn't put them back together again in a convincing none asspully way before they realize Korra and Asami. As for Korra and Asami they barely interacted with each other in the first two season, but in season three since they couldn't put her alone (interacting) with Mako after season two. They had already planned Bolin with Opal for romance (also the fact they kind of made korra to be kind of an ass when she was hanging out with him to make Mako jealous in season 1 (or something it been awhile)) and decided to have the brother hang out together for season three. So they just put the two girls together to interact for the season. They were probably surprised by how well the chemistry came off in their interactions in season 3 and decided to make them the end pairing for season 4. That it that how the end pairing came about it wasn't planned since the beginning.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 28 September 2015 - 07:41 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Korra pairings weren't that bad. It's more like "where should we go?" They weren't the type of "why go back" even though I wouldn't mind. Instead, it went that way and really, no one were pursuing in a relationship by season 3, so it's not that damaging. Naruto on the other hand held these pairings for a long time, all the way to the end, and just randomly thrown in the endgame with no use of the background and rely on one moment with newer moments that never happened, just to justify it. That's insulting than anything.

[James S Cassidy]

Korra pairings weren't that bad. It's more like "where should we go?" They weren't the type of "why go back" even though I wouldn't mind. Instead, it went that way and really, no one were pursuing in a relationship by season 3, so it's not that damaging. Naruto on the other hand held these pairings for a long time, all the way to the end, and just randomly thrown in the endgame with no use of the background and rely on one moment with newer moments that never happened, just to justify it. That's insulting than anything.

Never said it was bad, but in the end, like Naruto, all anyone cared about was the canon pairing and that's all they argued about. I am not sure if this is because the series just focused more on that than anything else or if the fandoms gotten so pairing obsessed that that is all they cared about. I say little bit of both.

We are in this weird generation where romance is such a huge aspect. Probably because, at least from my POV, noone actually wants to date each other for fear of being raped, hurt, or whatever. So they vicariously live through the characters believing that they are immune to being hurt that way. The reason why I say this is because all the people I meet are so skittish to start a relationship that if they do manage to date, they break it off after the first time. I am wonder if it is because of some much fear of "men are evil and want to rape everyone" schtick that is going around. "Pro-woman anti-men" campaign that is just saying "You can't trust men because they have a kitten." It's so bad that men are being ignored and becoming the more oppressed ones. We can't say anything, we can't object to anything, and we are treated less than human. Our feelings, true feelings, are being pushed aside and deemed unimportant. You know how many times I get called a pig or sexist just because I am male without people actually talking to me about my views? Too many.

I don't know, but recently I have noticed that all people seemed to be focused on is pairings rather than the actual story. I don't see many topics about Korra's story or how good of an avatar she was. Aang we talk about all the time though. How he became this legend that created energy bending and solved issues that didn't involve killing or wars.

Korra is not Naruto bad, but it is not Avatar good either. It is stuck in the middle and fandom, even if they thought it was a great series, so little interest of it beyond the Korrasami stuff.

[Nar123]

so having just finished catching up on korra after that abysmal rench that put me off which was season 1, i can safely say pairings probably ruin everything.

 

I really don't get how Korrasami being canon in the ending ruined the whole thing when it didn't even affected major character's motivations and the general plot of season 4

 

 

 

Which, like Naruto, was the only thing people really cared about in the end for the most part. You can tell this when by the time Korra ended people were more freaked by Korrasami than anything else. They never talked about how Korra really rose above her failings or how creative she was to end the conflicts. Actually, I saw the series and I can't remember the actual conflicts that Korra faced except for one and it was her in a wheelchair. I saw more "Korrasami vs Korramako" pairing wars threads than anything else after that.

Here is the truth, Korra was mediocre and if not for the "bisexual couple" in the end it pretty much would have faded. The ending to it was...

Let me put it this way, Avatar the Last Airbender did everything right and it ended in such a way that was both amazing and genius. it didn't feel like a cop-out or an asspull and even the worst episodes of the series were really good. Aang got with Katara, but that was just the side ice-cream that came with the cake. Even if the couples never happened, it still was a great series. Korra on the other hand, it did the opposite. It relied too heavy on pairings in the end and looking past, even a very special person of mine who LOVES Korra with a passion, agrees that it is not as good as Avatar the Last Airbender and it used the pairings as a crutch. 

It was okay. Not amazingly good, not bad, just okay.

 

Any fandom with their shipping are like that for the most part, it's not exclusive to Korra, remember by the end of legend of Aang? The subsequent outrage coming from teh Zutara part of the fandom?

 

You didn't watched Korra

It didn't relied heavily on pairings if we forget abut the whole love triangle mess in season 1 and 2, the main plot points were actually really interesting and really well thought, season 3 was by far the best but season 4 gave a good conclusion to the events season 3 started

 

Korra, plotwise, is a lot more different than Aang.

Aang's story feels more like an epic, a tale where the hero trains and braves through hardships and in the end he achieves his objective while remaining through to his morals

Korra is more of a coming of age story, in the beginning Korra is a heavily flawed character, she is very impulsive and harsh and tens to take things at face value, the story develops her and at the end she is already a mature avatar, being able to empathize even with he villain of the story, so while Aang has strong spirit  already grows physical strenght wise, Korra grows spiritual wise

 

They are different stories, both good in their own way

 

Btw I liked Aang's story more than Korra's, but hers was by no means mediocre

[TouKen4Life3g]

Korra pairings ending was like a bonus. Naruto was a sellout.

[Nar123]

Korra pairings ending was like a bonus. Naruto was a sellout.

 

Exactly

Korra pairings didn't hurt the story in the least, they didn't show any kind of negative message that impacted the story like the Naruto ones

 

Whether you think if it was bad developed or rushed in some shape or form it doesn't change that Korra's pairings didn't ruin the story in the least

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Exactly
Korra pairings didn't hurt the story in the least, they didn't show any kind of negative message that impacted the story like the Naruto ones
 
Whether you think if it was bad developed or rushed in some shape or form it doesn't change that Korra's pairings didn't ruin the story in the least

This.

Naruto killed the message and then some.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 28 September 2015 - 02:15 PM.

[Catra]

Which, like Naruto, was the only thing people really cared about in the end for the most part.

this is what i meant.

[James S Cassidy]

 

I really don't get how Korrasami being canon in the ending ruined the whole thing when it didn't even affected major character's motivations and the general plot of season 4

 

 

 

 

Any fandom with their shipping are like that for the most part, it's not exclusive to Korra, remember by the end of legend of Aang? The subsequent outrage coming from teh Zutara part of the fandom?

 

You didn't watched Korra

It didn't relied heavily on pairings if we forget abut the whole love triangle mess in season 1 and 2, the main plot points were actually really interesting and really well thought, season 3 was by far the best but season 4 gave a good conclusion to the events season 3 started

 

Korra, plotwise, is a lot more different than Aang.

Aang's story feels more like an epic, a tale where the hero trains and braves through hardships and in the end he achieves his objective while remaining through to his morals

Korra is more of a coming of age story, in the beginning Korra is a heavily flawed character, she is very impulsive and harsh and tens to take things at face value, the story develops her and at the end she is already a mature avatar, being able to empathize even with he villain of the story, so while Aang has strong spirit  already grows physical strenght wise, Korra grows spiritual wise

 

They are different stories, both good in their own way

 

Btw I liked Aang's story more than Korra's, but hers was by no means mediocre

Wow, way to be completely rude and a prick. kitten you too, I say. I put up with enough crap from everyone else, I don't need it here.

.......Yeah, no. Sorry, but all the social media websites tell a completely different story and yes, I saw Korra, but I was bored. Whenever I talk to fans about Korra, all I ever hear is how awesome Korrasami is and how unique the writers are for making that the ending. 9 times out of ten, it has nothing to do with what Korra was like as character and people point out that "buy-curious" joke over and over pointing out how it "hinted at since the beginning."

Really, who the hell are you to judge me like that? If you want to think the story was great and fine that's your opinion, but Aang's story is a lot more memorable than Korra and so it is mediocre. Of course, with how good Aang's story was, how could Korra compete? It is like trying to reinvent the wheel. Toph becoming an old women and calling Korra twinkle toes was funny, but also kind of Yoda/Luke style with her being in that jungle environment. Interesting, but at the same time it kind of felt disappointing. Not sure why. Maybe because I don't like to think of the characters as being old and dying and wanted to keep the original memories as they were. "When Legend becomes fact, print the legend."

I actually had more enjoyment seeing Toph bond with her daughters than I did watching Korra.

See, this is what I remember the most. Not Korra or any of her endeavors, but of the stories of what happened to the characters from the first series. That's what I wanted to know more. I didn't really find any appeal to half the cast because they were either copy paste from Aang's stuff or I just didn't find them interesting. Maybe I expected too much or maybe the series is overhyped.

Well, in that case, Bolt the movie is the most amazing story ever since "it is a lot more different series from Naruto." Which is basically what you are saying and of course, you looked at what I said all the wrong way when I was poking at the fans. NOT the series itself. The FANS who seemed to give more kittens about the pairings than the actual plot.

My POINT was that series itself wasn't that great, but people only saw it great because of the bisexual lovers Korrasami. That's all I ever saw on websites and media sites when the series ended was how the series was so great because the main character was bisexual and got with another bisexual. When I bring this up, a good portion of people I talk to actually agreed with me. I wish I could find the tumblr post that explained this better that I can. I'll keep searching.

So, yeah, go kitten yourself and actually read my posts next time. I am tired of trying to be nice and get kitten on by people like this. Also thanks for acting just like the pro-enders except with Korra. "You didn't watch Korra/you didn't read the manga"

Yeah...exactly the same in almost every way. The only difference is the Korra writers didn't butcher their characters to appease a paring fandom.

And no, I am not apologizing because you hurt my feelings. I get this crap enough from pro-enders and Naruto wannabe's all the time, but to get it here.....yeah, no, I am not having that. This is exactly why I don't like coming back here because of people like you. All you did was put words in my mouth and accused me of things I did not say. What, did I strike a nerve or something? I am so sick of people always acting all superior believing that only their opinion matters and then getting made when people disagree. Like spoiled brats who can't accept reality.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 28 September 2015 - 06:26 PM.

[Catra]

some scenes of korra felt so forced and fan service-y. "we're team avatar!" or "Im the avatar!" some parts felt like bryke got too deep into the political and ideological conflicts and resorted to fall back on the black and white net rather than staying on the grey. season 3 is still the best though. zaheer is the best villain and is someone amon and season 1 of korra wishes it was. if anything he reminded me of pein/nagato.

 

ozai = madara

 

amon = tobito

 

unilaq = ???

 

air benders = uzumaki clan

 

seriously as much as i hate the idea of an uzumaki clan due to it sounding so fanfic cliche its still insulting how sasuke got to be at the remains of the place.

Edited by Catra, 28 September 2015 - 06:45 PM.