There is a reason why my user name is NS means Logic, is not to have a pretty name is because NS fans normally make the most logical post I ever read with logical basis and panels to back them up, plus the pairing really makes more sense than all the pairing basing on the large focus the two characters gets.
Now the reason why you see I disagree with you and ignore many NH and SS fans is not because I want to be the bad guy, is because in my arguments I always try to speak in a neutral standpoint, while considering every odd, that is the why I like reading the Anti pairing fans' comments, is mostly because they judge all the pairings the same way, while I try to elaborate a counter to their argument.
I read your post, but lately I started to notice that your argument are mostly focused on Naruto and Sakura, and you add the Parallel only when they help Naruto and Sakura, I don't, I try to look and think all possible way and is also a big reason why many times the arguments I make are very close of the event we get in the Manga, before I was just like you, I didn't care about Hinata I make a statement saying that Hinata already got the message, everything is on NH fans, they are forcing a relationship Hinata is not thinking about, but then we got 558, 559 and 573, since then I always try to be more open minded and honest about any argument I make.
For me NH is very much alive just like SS, they can only die when Kishi makes a panel with Sakura saying that she wants to start a relationship with Naruto and Naruto saying that he will always love Sakura, or more blatant with a mutual confusion about the way they feel about each other. NS makes more sense and has everything on his side minus Sakura's lingering feelings. But NH and SS are still very much alive and we can still see the manga ending with those two pairings.
What I'm trying to say is that I love speculation, but I try to avoid my arguments sounding as if I'm sure, I don't really know if Kishi sees this Manga the same way we do, even when we try to stick to the fact we could still be wrong.
Narusakuforlife said pretty much everything which i agree on what he said. But there's something i want to tell you and it's an advice from me. You're right that you should have a neutral standpoint before taking anything for sure but this is a manga so there many things, except the ideas of the mangaka for a story as a plot , that should be in the manga about characters, some events and a definite and main pairing for a manga, that if the mangaka chose to have a pairing, which in this manga there will be and speaking of it, the main characters should be the definite pairing in a manga which consists of the protagonist and the main female/male character so saying that NH and SS are still very much alive, i don't agree with it, though this is not the only reason if we're going to refer to the story of the manga itself. I'm not saying that don't take things in neutral standpoint, just remember the advice that i told you. I take the neutral standpoint in other genre of stories but not for a manga

do you seriously want Sakura to die? she's nothing compared to him.
She could render him some strikes and besides, we were just sharing a laugh about it cause we know this fight won't really happen
I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.
Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.
So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."
I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*
WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!
IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!
IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!
IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!
IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)
WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............
As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.
Been in that situation that you had and that why i don't read NF anymore only if i had, and it's necessarily, to see something else than pairings debates cause it's full of rabid pairing fans especially the NH's and for that comment that you had read and you had your mind blow, it's just another rabid NH fan that is blinded of what he/she likes.
Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 11:36 AM.