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Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:39 AM

Before I sleep, I just want to add two things for fun. It's not that serious, just a fun note.

I noticed that in USA, the first databook is the third databook in Japan. Huh. Funny. That means the American audience only get to see the huge upside of NaruSaku. I bet they will be like, "What!? So she does has feelings for Naruto? Lucky Naruto happy.gif " I guess they will take that as only facts for them without having look back at others. Then again, since it is the newest one in the market, no need to look back at the past databooks. They shouldn't matter anyway. Funny. That reminds me, did you know that there was a small magazine that contains Shounen best love couple and Naruto/Sakura was listed. No joke! I got to find it. Dammit, why I didn't take it? I think we have it at NF.

Another note, did anyone notice that Kishi didn't even give Hinata a cover in what many people considered a plot factor (her confession), let alone the future one. Team 7 (mostly Sasuke and almost 100% with Naruto) gets in the cover. Hell, even Konan got a cover. Nothing with that, I did like her (died so soon sad.gif), but yeah, so um, about Hinata. Minato over shined her in that event. Hm, I remember one cover had Naruto carrying Sakura's axe with her name. Interesting. Kishi can't help it, eh. Lol. Ok, fun time's over.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 September 2012 - 07:43 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 08:29 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 02:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a reason why my user name is NS means Logic, is not to have a pretty name is because NS fans normally make the most logical post I ever read with logical basis and panels to back them up, plus the pairing really makes more sense than all the pairing basing on the large focus the two characters gets.

Now the reason why you see I disagree with you and ignore many NH and SS fans is not because I want to be the bad guy, is because in my arguments I always try to speak in a neutral standpoint, while considering every odd, that is the why I like reading the Anti pairing fans' comments, is mostly because they judge all the pairings the same way, while I try to elaborate a counter to their argument.

I read your post, but lately I started to notice that your argument are mostly focused on Naruto and Sakura, and you add the Parallel only when they help Naruto and Sakura, I don't, I try to look and think all possible way and is also a big reason why many times the arguments I make are very close of the event we get in the Manga, before I was just like you, I didn't care about Hinata I make a statement saying that Hinata already got the message, everything is on NH fans, they are forcing a relationship Hinata is not thinking about, but then we got 558, 559 and 573, since then I always try to be more open minded and honest about any argument I make.

For me NH is very much alive just like SS, they can only die when Kishi makes a panel with Sakura saying that she wants to start a relationship with Naruto and Naruto saying that he will always love Sakura, or more blatant with a mutual confusion about the way they feel about each other. NS makes more sense and has everything on his side minus Sakura's lingering feelings. But NH and SS are still very much alive and we can still see the manga ending with those two pairings.

What I'm trying to say is that I love speculation, but I try to avoid my arguments sounding as if I'm sure, I don't really know if Kishi sees this Manga the same way we do, even when we try to stick to the fact we could still be wrong.


I agree 100% on this 1 smile.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 13 2012, 05:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a reason why my user name is NS means Logic, is not to have a pretty name is because NS fans normally make the most logical post I ever read with logical basis and panels to back them up, plus the pairing really makes more sense than all the pairing basing on the large focus the two characters gets.

Now the reason why you see I disagree with you and ignore many NH and SS fans is not because I want to be the bad guy, is because in my arguments I always try to speak in a neutral standpoint, while considering every odd, that is the why I like reading the Anti pairing fans' comments, is mostly because they judge all the pairings the same way, while I try to elaborate a counter to their argument.

I read your post, but lately I started to notice that your argument are mostly focused on Naruto and Sakura, and you add the Parallel only when they help Naruto and Sakura, I don't, I try to look and think all possible way and is also a big reason why many times the arguments I make are very close of the event we get in the Manga, before I was just like you, I didn't care about Hinata I make a statement saying that Hinata already got the message, everything is on NH fans, they are forcing a relationship Hinata is not thinking about, but then we got 558, 559 and 573, since then I always try to be more open minded and honest about any argument I make.

For me NH is very much alive just like SS, they can only die when Kishi makes a panel with Sakura saying that she wants to start a relationship with Naruto and Naruto saying that he will always love Sakura, or more blatant with a mutual confusion about the way they feel about each other. NS makes more sense and has everything on his side minus Sakura's lingering feelings. But NH and SS are still very much alive and we can still see the manga ending with those two pairings.

What I'm trying to say is that I love speculation, but I try to avoid my arguments sounding as if I'm sure, I don't really know if Kishi sees this Manga the same way we do, even when we try to stick to the fact we could still be wrong.

Narusakuforlife said pretty much everything which i agree on what he said. But there's something i want to tell you and it's an advice from me. You're right that you should have a neutral standpoint before taking anything for sure but this is a manga so there many things, except the ideas of the mangaka for a story as a plot , that should be in the manga about characters, some events and a definite and main pairing for a manga, that if the mangaka chose to have a pairing, which in this manga there will be and speaking of it, the main characters should be the definite pairing in a manga which consists of the protagonist and the main female/male character so saying that NH and SS are still very much alive, i don't agree with it, though this is not the only reason if we're going to refer to the story of the manga itself. I'm not saying that don't take things in neutral standpoint, just remember the advice that i told you. I take the neutral standpoint in other genre of stories but not for a manga biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Branden @ Sep 13 2012, 05:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do you seriously want Sakura to die? she's nothing compared to him.

She could render him some strikes and besides, we were just sharing a laugh about it cause we know this fight won't really happen happy.gif

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 13 2012, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.

Been in that situation that you had and that why i don't read NF anymore only if i had, and it's necessarily, to see something else than pairings debates cause it's full of rabid pairing fans especially the NH's and for that comment that you had read and you had your mind blow, it's just another rabid NH fan that is blinded of what he/she likes.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 11:36 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 12 2012, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.


Realx, take a deep breath and take a chill pill. Ever heard of desperation can lead to misinterpretation? Nah of course you won't because I just made that up hehe. tongue.gif
But seriously joke aside you shouldn't been spending time at NF because it's NH and SS territory and second you shouldn't be listening to their empty arguments. There is no point in listening to such arguments because there are always the same, so why would they cling to the old? Maybe they have a reason to. But anyway here are some points to why they are on a very desperate level.

-The fact the manga keeps showing like it's heading the NS path more and more.

The fact Kishi keeps bringing said pairing into the reader's face and he keeps slapping it into the reader's face with so many parallels (yes we know Kishi is in love with parallels).

-The fact that there ISN'T a single evidence from NH and SS that shows true canon development since the beginning of the manga (I'm not talking about one sided proof).

-The fact Kishi written and directed a movie with it's main focus is the NS bond and he has already shown plenty of hints in said movie that there's something MORE than friendship between Naruto and Sakura its pretty darn obvious.

-The fact it has convinced some fans from opposite pairings that the manga might end with NS.

-The fact that said movie makes a mockery of both the NH and SS pairings symbolizing that Kishi is probably laughing at fans of said pairings like he's screaming at them" those pairings WILL NEVER happen live with it".

With reasons said above what other option do those fans from those pairings have than to get desperate and rely on old empty arguments from past manga chapters aka ch 437, 470, 474, 540 and 573). And that's without analyzing those chapters well.

Edited by Gravenimage, 13 September 2012 - 01:42 PM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 13 2012, 03:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why not??? Tsunade did managed to land a few blows on Orochimaru enough to beat the crap out of him. We know how much Kishi loves parallels and he has already shown us enough that team 7 is a parallel of the sanins, I will not be surprise if we see Sakura landing a punch on Sasuke for all the hell he has put Naruto and her.



Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 11:34 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The pic is really funny laugh.gif but seriously, why wouldn't she land on him some punches? Not defeating him but brings damage to him.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 13 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The pic is really funny laugh.gif but seriously, why wouldn't she land on him some punches? Not defeating him but brings damage to him.


She cant, she does not have speed, to fight sasuke, and sasuke got a susano, even naruto has problems to fight against it.
if she would fight sasuke someday she really need to a boost on her powers she could not even land a punch on kakashi.
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I see Sakura the same as Tsunade if you don't believe she's capable of punching Sasuke then it's your call. Kishi has shown the parallels clearly we might see something like that during or before the final battle.
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:04 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 13 2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I see Sakura the same as Tsunade if you don't believe she's capable of punching Sasuke then it's your call. Kishi has shown the parallels clearly we might see something like that during or before the final battle.


There's a enorme difference between orochimaru, orochimaru does not care much about his body integrity because he knows that he can easily regenerate, sasuke got susano and a sharingan that allows him to foresee movements, she needs to have a great speed to be able to punch him.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:16 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She cant, she does not have speed, to fight sasuke, and sasuke got a susano, even naruto has problems to fight against it.
if she would fight sasuke someday she really need to a boost on her powers she could not even land a punch on kakashi.


QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 13 2012, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's a enorme difference between orochimaru, orochimaru does not care much about his body integrity because he knows that he can easily regenerate, sasuke got susano and a sharingan that allows him to foresee movements, she needs to have a great speed to be able to punch him.


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We all know that Sakura has not the same power as Sasuke does with his techniques but she does have great strength and power plus she does have speed like the others so that why i told you that she can't defeat him but brings damage to him.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:25 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 13 2012, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.


Well dont the hinata fans always do that TBH me as Sakura fandont dislike hinata at al in al fairness i do get that kishi cant just let hinata say well Naruto i dont like you anymore and i am off with (lets say Kiba) cause he has a free doggy ride too the spa & supermarket so she cant just say i dont love you anymore that would make it fake.

I also Dont think Hinata is a Lame character i find her pretty cool character appearance wise too and not ugly at all.

BUT i dont like her too be with naruto as much as Sakura i mean Naruto & Sakura have a big past they have a long relationship in team 7 and way more good moments mostly funneh ofcourse biggrin.gif and thats another reason i dont like hinata with naruto couse Hinata is actually a female naruto in my eyes Kindhearted and stuff and too of the same pair would make boring couple.

But in the end i really dont hate hinata she mainly is a kindhearted person in this series and would prob like too see naruto happy just like naruto wants sakura too be happy.

I edited the post saying i dont think you guys hate Hinata eigther am i right?

Edited by Arachnia, 13 September 2012 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

if some one here hates hinata then it'll be for his own reasons not for NS but i dont think anyone here hates her,maybe hates her fandom yes but isn't that most of us smile.gif i personaly don't care about her because i never liked the cute shy defensless girl but that's just me rolleyes.gif
Sakura will never ever fight sasuke you guys know that I was joking laugh.gif ....right huh.gif ?

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:17 PM

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I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.


nice arguments they have i just see
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 13 2012, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if some one here hates hinata then it'll be for his own reasons not for NS but i dont think anyone here hates her,maybe hates her fandom yes but isn't that most of us smile.gif i personaly don't care about her because i never liked the cute shy defensless girl but that's just me rolleyes.gif
Sakura will never ever fight sasuke you guys know that I was joking laugh.gif ....right huh.gif ?

Apparently, no one here hates Hinata just different opinions on her character.
They know you were joking happy.gif but then we caught up in the discussion of the difference between Sakura's and Sasuke's strength in a battle. Don't worry biggrin.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:26 PM

Hey we idd know it was a joke but if she does fight him ahh what the hell let her have her 1 hit /slap and after just like
naruto clone with madara gets blown away biggrin.gif


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:42 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 13 2012, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently, no one here hates Hinata just different opinions on her character.
They know you were joking happy.gif but then we caught up in the discussion of the difference between Sakura's and Sasuke's strength in a battle. Don't worry biggrin.gif


good then happy.gif ....i always thought about it,they wont even meet to fight anyway ,i think the reason she was alone with him( and karin half dead) was so she would acually see how much he has been consumed by haterednso i doubt that they will even get a glance at each other any time soon
QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 13 2012, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey we idd know it was a joke but if she does fight him ahh what the hell let her have her 1 hit /slap and after just like
naruto clone with madara gets blown away biggrin.gif

wow.png i dont care if she's blown later (she's the main female character so she'll live ),if she manages to hit/slap him ( he has too much pride to let her do that) then I'll omfg.gif eager.gif boogie.gif 111191.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.

And that ^ is why I really don't like to debate, especially about shipping dry.gif . People just have so much blind certainty that their "OTP" will happen that they pretty much just block out everything else. I personally don't care what a person chooses to ship but when they decided to run around saying that it's cannon (when it's not) and that every other pairing has no chance of happening that's when s*** gets annoying facepalm.png. So from my point of view I think it's pointless to waste your time arguing with rabid hardheaded shippers. But that's just me th_tongue.gif.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 13 2012, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
good then happy.gif ....i always thought about it,they wont even meet to fight anyway ,i think the reason she was alone with him( and karin half dead) was so she would acually see how much he has been consumed by haterednso i doubt that they will even get a glance at each other any time soon

wow.png i dont care if she's blown later (she's the main female character so she'll live ),if she manages to hit/slap him ( he has too much pride to let her do that) then I'll omfg.gif eager.gif boogie.gif 111191.gif


haha happy mode ? biggrin.gif boogie.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:30 PM

I will share with you this new information on a person that is clearly a NH fan :
http://answers.yahoo...13042547AAqQFKy

I was asking what everyone thinks about Naruto and Sakura to know what others thinks till now, and there's this user called richard, which he's clearly is a somewhat rabid NH fan and a speaker of new reasons of why NS 'won't happen' and clearly hates Sakura plus the other reasons are what all the NH fans always say so nothing new and they start from the the first two paragraphs, and about what he said of Japan...... i won't say anything cause if i did, let's just say that all hell breaks loose.

Why a speaker of new reasons of why NS won't happen ? The answer is to begin reading from " And at risk from...", the scene that he invented is very abusive of Sakura, if you imagine the action taken and like when you're reading the manga. Plus what boils my blood is that he speaks of Kishi saying something very illagitimate about Sakura while Kishi HATES that some people talk about his heroine like this.

N.B: The scene that the user described is very disturbing, well i was disturbed, unless you're sure of yourself on whatever you will feel. Just saying.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 02:52 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:41 PM

So can some of you guys explain me the new anime epsiode 279 because i dont unserstand the ending and the whole episode is just bullsh&t!

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