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#4221 Inferno180

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 02:00 PM

No matter what pairing moments come up in the anime there is still 631 beyond all that, I mean face it, 631 caused a bigger fallout than 615 because when 616 came, people on both sides were like, "oh wait that's it?" nothing special happened after that, yet there were still too many questions lingering on with what about Naruto and Sakura's unfinished interaction? Etc. 631 however, caused the fallout among the fanbases just because of Minato and him seeing Sakura as similar to Kushina and seeing Kushina within Sakura.

 

Its as one reviewer said, "Minato became the ultimate troll of the pairing fans, basically he advocated a parallel many fans thought would be true but put it on a character who is not as popular as the one they all wanted."

 

I still remember that day too, it was chaos and flamewars everywhere, not the best of days but it was nice for our fandom. But the aftermath of this event still just lingers around too, this has been longer lasting than the 615 events I mean people are still heavily debating what Minato meant when its really just a simple Sakura=Kushina, when this comes in the anime its like how much more must these things be brought forward? The anime is not going to change the source material, its still going to be Sakura=Kushina a couple weeks after the episode containing 615 airs.

 

The reason is still just so simple, Kushina created a foreshadow, basically to find a girl like her, Minato built on that and compared Sakura to Kushina, Sakura is the only girl who is said to be similar to Kushina, its again that simple. This foreshadowing element will return, but as it is right now, the foreshadow is untouchable and with NS, its not a moment that just disappears, its a story element and it will return in time. Unless there was a very important or valid reason to change this, I don't see it going to NH anytime in the future. As it is right now, the parallel either sticks and NS goes canon or it does not and the parallel dies.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:20 PM

I'll break down the characters love interests. None of the characters have a crush. Hinata doesn't have a crush on Naruto, Sakura doesn't have a crush on Sasuke and ohmygod Naruto does not have a crush on Sakura.
 
I'm so tired of people labeling their feelings as mere crushes even if some is not true love.
 
A crush is short-lived, based on physical attraction and desire to be intimate with said person. The closest to this definition would be Sakura>Sasuke, because her feelings for him were built on his coolness, handsome features and popularity. The arguments that supports the claim that it's love is that she's kept her feelings after all he's done. That doesn't mean it's true love, but we can break her lingering feelings down;
1. Sakura still believes Sasuke has had romantic feelings for her, or at least found her forehead attractive.
2. Kishi is sparing Sakura's feelings to the "Sasuke arc", the last conflict in the series. This may happen quite soon, because I wonder how long Sasuke can hold in his true intentions. :pinch:
3. Shipping drama..
 
Now on to Naruto, who doesn't love Sakura for her looks or because he finds her cute.

Naruto

 
Sakura

 
Not to mention the bond they share, which has progressed so much that they don't even have to do a single thing to bring the special smile
Mutual bond

 
Look at these panels and tell me about crushes or that they won't be the happiest lovebirds when the war is over. They have fallen for eachother in the most beautiful way you can fall for someone, god I ship them so hard. :3 Sakura loves Naruto. I don't think she knows why yet(at least she did not by the time of her confession, which is why she came up logical reasons for loving him aka her reasons for loving Sasuke), but I'm sure they'll have a talk and figure things out.
 
And the best thing is that they want to protect eachothers smiles, dreams and happiness, and that I can go on and on all night.
 
May take Hinata another day. Gotta sleep. :sleepy:

:umm: this post..is spot on! :wow:

Not to mention that sakura is the most precious person to naruto, ecause during the gaara vs naruto fight to protect sakura, he remembered hakus words when he said, "do you have someone precious?" And naruto looked at sakura, and judging by how sakura has changed towards naruto, he's the most precious person in her life.

Hinata loves naruto, bit its not the kind of love that she'd wanna have a relationship with him, its only comradeship. There hasnt been a time where she said she was pursuing him romantically.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:24 PM

:umm: this post..is spot on! :wow:

Not to mention that sakura is the most precious person to naruto, ecause during the gaara vs naruto fight to protect sakura, he remembered hakus words when he said, "do you have someone precious?" And naruto looked at sakura, and judging by how sakura has changed towards naruto, he's the most precious person in her life.

Hinata loves naruto, bit its not the kind of love that she'd wanna have a relationship with him, its only comradeship. There hasnt been a time where she said she was pursuing him romantically.

Thank you next time I hear it's a crush I'll step on a puppy. :pinch:

 

You don't even need to be a NS fan to see that Naruto loves Sakura and how close they are, but if one really want to bypass their own words and incredible lenghts they would go for one another..go ahead. :sweatdrop:


Edited by sushi., 21 July 2013 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:26 PM

Thank you next time I hear it's a crush I'll step on a puppy. :pinch:
 
But if one really want to bypass their own words and incredible lenghts they would go for one another..go ahead. :sweatdrop:


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:31 PM

for pairing fans it wasn't the entire chapter that caused a stir, but a mere 5 panels.

 

The thing about those 5 panels is that they cannot be interpreted any other way without looking like you're in denial. Minato made the direct comparison between Sakura and Kushina confirming the parallel.

 

Answer me if you can. Why would Kishi have Minato do that if he wasn't going to make NaruSaku the end pairing. Why would Kushina's dying words of advice be to find a girl like his mother? Why would Naruto tell his father that Sakura is his girlfriend?

 

Those 3 questions have obvious answers. So obvious that everyone in all fandoms can see it bright as day. It causes panic, denial, and desperation.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

Thank you next time I hear it's a crush I'll step on a puppy. :pinch:

 

You don't even need to be a NS fan to see that Naruto loves Sakura and how close they are, but if one really want to bypass their own words and incredible lenghts they would go for one another..go ahead. :sweatdrop:

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

NOT A PUPPY!!! Stomp on a cat instead!

No :pinch:. I love cats XD

 

Stomp on a paper. That doesn't hurt anything or anyone XD


Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:48 PM

No :pinch:. I love cats XD

 

Stomp on a paper. That doesn't hurt anything or anyone XD

 

OMG how can you be so insensitive to paper. Paper means trees are dieing. If you waste it you waste trees.


Edited by Dkey, 21 July 2013 - 04:48 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:54 PM

 

OMG how can you be so insensitive to paper. Paper means trees are dieing. If you waste it you waste trees.

Lol. But, paper is already made from a tree that died to make it. So as a result, it's nothing for paper XD


Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 04:58 PM

@brandon
BECAUSE NS IS A REDHERRING!!!! YOU WILL SEE IN NEXT CHAPTER HINATA AND SAKURA WILL COME TO RESCUE BOTH BOYS AND AT THAT TIME BOTH SASUKE AND NARUTO WILL ACCEPT THE LOVE OF THE GIRLS AND IT WILL MAKE OBITO TNJ BECAUSE HE DOENS'T HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOVE HIM LIKE HINATA. :zaru: :zaru: :fu:






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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:09 PM

I do get the feeling the kiss on cheek is the next step. We got the hug, but now, a kiss on cheek is possibly the next step. That or skip to kiss, but knowing that we may have one more arc (maybe), it's possible for first one.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:14 PM

I do get the feeling the kiss on cheek is the next step. We got the hug, but now, a kiss on cheek is possibly the next step. That or skip to kiss, but knowing that we may have one more arc (maybe), it's possible for first one.

Or maybe it can happen while they're in the village after this battle. It will be a good scene if the kiss on the cheek happens XD


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:16 PM

I do get the feeling the kiss on cheek is the next step. We got the hug, but now, a kiss on cheek is possibly the next step. That or skip to kiss, but knowing that we may have one more arc (maybe), it's possible for first one.

 

 

a kiss on the cheek I don't know, one on the forehead seems more likely.



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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

Or maybe it can happen while they're in the village after this battle. It will be a good scene if the kiss on the cheek happens XD


Getting this is pretty much guaranteed to win. Unless you're in a comedy short, where development don't happen because it reset in the end. Anyway, I can picture Naruto being the nicest guy in Konoha after that moment. He could be dancing down the street, overpay the ramen, greets everyone, scare Kakashi or make him feel "weird", Sai would be like, "...oh I get it." and so on.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

a kiss on the cheek I don't know, one on the forehead seems more likely.

If a kiss on the cheek, I think it will be from Sakura. If a kiss on the forehead, I think it will be from Naruto.

 

I think both are equally possible.

 

Getting this is pretty much guaranteed to win. Unless you're in a comedy short, where development don't happen because it reset in the end. Anyway, I can picture Naruto being the nicest guy in Konoha after that moment. He could be dancing down the street, overpay the ramen, greets everyone, scare Kakashi or make him feel "weird", Sai would be like, "...oh I get it." and so on.

This would be a good chapter to see :lol:


Edited by T XD, 21 July 2013 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:19 PM

I do get the feeling the kiss on cheek is the next step. We got the hug, but now, a kiss on cheek is possibly the next step. That or skip to kiss, but knowing that we may have one more arc (maybe), it's possible for first one.

You mean after the war Sakura will kiss Naruto on the cheek instead of hugging him? I would rather have a kiss to the mouth. :3 This is a pretty love centered manga compared to other shounens. Romance is the bond Kishi focuses most on after family and brotherhood

 

I get the feeling that after the war, Naruto will feel like he has everything he wanted (Sakura included, and she has to make him believe it somehow)

 

Except one thing which is Sasuke, the last conflict. I don't think Sasuke will be dealt with in this war.


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:23 PM

a kiss on the cheek I don't know, one on the forehead seems more likely.


I mean from Sakura to Naruto. I don't recall any media to have a guy do it to a girl. Odd if that's truly true...

You mean after the war Sakura will kiss Naruto on the cheek instead of hugging him? I would rather have a kiss to the mouth. :3 This is a pretty love centered manga compared to other shounens. Romance is the bond Kishi focuses most on after family and brotherhood
 
I get the feeling that after the war, Naruto will feel like he has everything he wanted (Sakura included, and she has to make him believe it somehow)
 
Except one thing which is Sasuke, the last conflict. I don't think Sasuke will be dealt with in this war.

If there's another arc, too soon. Lol. Don't worry, I still believe a kiss in the lips.

@T XD: I would love to see it. A kiss in a cheek is a huge boost of happiness for a guy.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:26 PM

I want Sakura to confront Sasuke on his intentions when it comes to Naruto and when he Says he wants to kill him, she gives this amazing speech. The ultimate speech saying how she'll not let him crush his dreams, and stand by while he does. She'll go on to say how much work Naruto has done for this position and the acknowledgement of the village. She'll end it all with these words. "I won't let you lay a finger on Naruto", and she goes sage mode. Yes!! This is what I want damnit!!  :hehehe:


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

If there's another arc, too soon. Lol. Don't worry, I still believe a kiss in the lips.

@T XD: I would love to see it. A kiss in a cheek is a huge boost of happiness for a guy.

Sakura can kiss Naruto on the cheek after this war, and on the lips after everything and everyone(Sasuke) has been dealt with.

 

We've had cheesy kisses in anime before. Inuyasha, Yuyu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin and so on. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but all these shows are old. D:


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Posted 21 July 2013 - 05:29 PM

Sakura can kiss Naruto on the cheek after this war, and on the lips after everything and everyone(Sasuke) has been dealt with.
 
We've had cheesy kisses in anime before. Inuyasha, Yuyu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin and so on. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but all these shows are old. D:

That's the plan.

Um, what do you mean cheesy kisses? At what extent is cheesy?




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