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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:48 PM

Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 12 2012, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.

You said almost all what could happen between Naruto and Sakura if Tsunade dies plus their bonds with Tsunade. Great work biggrin.gif

Edited by T XD, 12 September 2012 - 08:19 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:21 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 12 2012, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She could feel that way but a pain like this can't be ignored by a person, and saying that this happens, it will only make her character development go downward which Kishi won't make that.


I think one of the reasons why many people dropped the Manga and other really against Naruto it in some way, Is because of his devotion to Sasuke and Naruto if he is giving the chance to ignore everyone advices to save Sasuke he wpuld do it, at this point Naruto is ignoring Sasukes murder attempt, ignores his friends, his sensei, other leaders and the girl he loves, why Sakura is any different, I don't believe in SS and only give that pairing 0.01 percent. Kishi making Sakura relates to him and ignore the hurt he caused her will change that percentage.

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Sep 12 2012, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tsunade's death will probably add development to Naruto, Kakashi and Sakura. But saying it will somehow mean Sakura will suddenly fall in love with Sasuke, in spite of all he has done and become, is a really big leap.

Unless we are reader who believes that she doesn't love Sasuke.
I read many comments saying that Tsunades death will be good for Sakura to understand Sasuke and Naruto, we see what it did for Naruto, it help him to understand the meaning of losing someone important, but Kishi used that event for Naruto to understand Sasuke and relate to Sasuke's painis amost like if Sasuke is the main focus of the Manga and not Naruto, so if the users here are correct is not impossible to believe that he can do the same with Sakura.


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Tsunades death will also affect Kakashi and Shizune, Shizune more than Naruto and Sakura.

Is not that I love being the devil on the forum, is just that I like seeing things in all angles before making a final judgment.





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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 12 2012, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.


You just talked out of my mind.!:D Great post as always!

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 12 2012, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think one of the reasons why many people dropped the Manga and other really against Naruto it in some way, Is because of his devotion to Sasuke and Naruto if he is giving the chance to ignore everyone advices to save Sasuke he wpuld do it, at this point Naruto is ignoring Sasukes murder attempt, ignores his friends, his sensei, other leaders and the girl he loves, why Sakura is any different, I don't believe in SS and only give that pairing 0.01 percent. Kishi making Sakura relates to him and ignore the hurt he caused her will change that percentage.


If Sakura were to think of Sasuke and flashbacks occurred, it will be only of her and what she thinks of him as the person he is with a sad and hurtful expression like always and would relate of her leftover feelings for him only if something happens which her moving on is completed or the realization for whom she truly loves happened which her hurting will be gone.



QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 12 2012, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Tsunades death will also affect Kakashi and Shizune, Shizune more than Naruto and Sakura.

Is not that I love being the devil on the forum, is just that I like seeing things in all angles before making a final judgment.

Shizune and Kakashi might have an appearance of them being sad for Tsunade if she died but they won't be focused as much as Naruto and Sakura. Plus we could get a page showing us how all are sad of Tsunade's death.

Edited by T XD, 12 September 2012 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's one thing that people must keep in mind. Okay, I still don't know if Tsunade will die, but if she does, well it's obvious that both Naruto and Sakura will have development. You can't dismiss either one of them. Naruto will feel like he let her down for not ending this problem sooner. Let's not forget, Tsunade told him to finish the fight in which it could be her last words to Naruto, so leaving that last words to him will hurt him because he would wish it wouldn't be the last thing he would hear from Tsunade. It's pretty obvious Naruto will get a development from this tragedy. No chance in hell that Kishi will ignore him altogether, especially how much he put Naruto and Tsunade in the same scene. Their bonds are strong as well. Remember how sad he felt about Tsunade's condition after Pain's invasion arc. Also, even the anime filler kept showing his concern for Tsunade. She is close to him.

As for Sakura, she will go through development when she dies. She will most likely train harder as a medic and other things, especially that rule of a medic. It's possible she can learn the summon if there's a contract somewhere back in Konoha, but who knows. Now here's something I have to address in here. People in here say Sakura will learn both Naruto and Sasuke's lost. That may happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling she will only connect herself with Chiyo and perhaps she will flashback her days with Tsunade. And for some reason, Kishi could only connect her to Naruto's lost to Jiraiya. Remember the movie? She only connects to Naruto when she felt lonely. Why not Sasuke after losing his family and the clan? Because the focus is on Naruto. The story is about Naruto. I doubt she will go through Naruto about vengeance because she's against that idea. Plus this will be more for Naruto since look how angry Naruto was when Madara kept taunting. Pretty much, a small push to the edge and Naruto will go all out anger. Hm, sounds like a good time for using Sakura to push him angrier (ex. Obito trying to kill her).

Now why do I think that NS development will happen if Tsunade dies? Ok, first of all, I am not a fan of killing her off equals development. I am not happy nor mad, just waiting to see how everything will go down. Ok, now about the development. Kishi has a lot of roads to take. Here's my thoughts. Naruto and Sakura are close to Tsunade. No doubt they will feel sadness from the tragedy. The question is who will cheer up who. If you ask me, Naruto cheering her up will be the best time to hint Sakura that there's something more to Naruto than she thought. If Sasuke was the one in Naruto's shoes, he will walk away in silence or something. Sakura always feel sad with him. Naruto, however, is her main support in many ways. She will be sad at one point and after Naruto comfort her, she will smile again. She will continue to grow strong, just as Tsunade wishes her to do after her passing. Remember, Naruto wants her to smile at all cost. He always finds a way to comfort her. I mean he even managed to do it back at the end of part 1, regardless of his failure. People needs to remember: Sasuke has no connection to Tsunade. Plus he's not even there to support Sakura or anyone for that matter. So he will be dismissed.

As for the future, like I said, Naruto will hint her unintentionally that she has a special feeling for Naruto, which could start her journey to understand that feeling. I do believe Sasuke will return or turn good by the end of the manga, so don't expect any Sasuke comfort Sakura and what not. Another way for NS development is Naruto says something heroic and looking cool, she may accidentally blush and get lost in her mind for like 3 seconds, while Naruto is clueless what's happening. I don't remember where I read that scene, but hopefully my mind gets clearer as the day is still young. Also, after learning Tsunade's death, Sakura may cry for Naruto when he's about to face Sasuke, because she will not only remember his quote about both of them dying, but she will remember that Sasuke said that he will kill him, which shows how dark he has gone through. She wouldn't want another precious person to die, so Naruto will comfort her that everything will be ok. Remember, Sasuke isn't there for Sakura to talk to him, so only Naruto is there. It's the calm before storm moment.

This is only my thoughts on the potential future. Will it happen? Who knows. Take it what it is. My point is that you shouldn't worry too much about Sasuke. Sasuke is on his own for many things. Naruto is about his bonds and the future. Of course, this is about Naruto.


True but what is sasuke doing now you know is he gonna go on the path of good or evil there is a chance too that naruto will have trouble with madara pffffff a chance ( he will have a great pain even if K11 will help) so what if sasuke decide too help him against madara and have a change of heart and i think he will it will suck too cause i wanted too have the ultimate fight between him and naruto haha.anyway if sasuke helps he will get + points at sakura i kinda fear that:D

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:44 PM

Thank you for the compliment. smile.gif

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 12 2012, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Tsunades death will also affect Kakashi and Shizune, Shizune more than Naruto and Sakura.

Is not that I love being the devil on the forum, is just that I like seeing things in all angles before making a final judgment.

Yes, but I don't know about Kakashi. In any case, it will be the fact he may get the Hokage title or at least a temporary one. The reason why I only mention Naruto/Sakura is because not only they're the main characters, which most likely put more emphasis on them, but the fact they're still young. Kakashi took it normal when the Third Hokage died, so he already understand the feelings. Shizune will get her development as well, just not as much as those two. I don't like to say it that way but it is Kishi's ideal of showing who counts more. Sakura and Shizune can share the development. That can happen. Again, don't leave Naruto out of this. Naruto is the one that changed Tsunade to pursue of taking the Hokage title and the fact she was able to move on. So of course, Naruto got a lot of this involvement and like I said before, it will only be Naruto/Sakura that can connect with each other in terms of Team 7. Sasuke is not present and he couldn't care a lot. The best we might get is "..." and maybe "Well that's too bad. This makes Naruto's situation a lot harder. Let's see if he can ever climb up from this." Remember, even though he's not that bad from Kage Summit arc, he still couldn't care less and won't connect with anyone. This is his own story. Naruto is connected to Sakura for being in Konoha and share the same situation.

So you shouldn't be afraid about Sasuke. If anything, it will only get Naruto/Sakura rolling with each other. Not to mention leaving Hinata out of this story even more so before. So yeah, if anything, they could have first make Sakura deal with Shizune while Naruto deal with either Kakashi or Iruka, or both. Remember, they were there during the 3rd Hokage funeral. They both know the pain. Then, after they both deal with the situation, Naruto and Sakura will get back together and share their thoughts. And the rest is up to Kishi or could go with my suggestions from my previous post.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 12 2012, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True but what is sasuke doing now you know is he gonna go on the path of good or evil there is a chance too that naruto will have trouble with madara pffffff a chance ( he will have a great pain even if K11 will help) so what if sasuke decide too help him against madara and have a change of heart and i think he will it will suck too cause i wanted too have the ultimate fight between him and naruto haha.anyway if sasuke helps he will get + points at sakura i kinda fear that:D


I thought about that too but dont forget sasuke nearly killed sakura two times, she has to be totally retarded to back to him also he has no feelings for her.
If sasuke really turns good it can also be that he sacrifices himself to safe nauto so sakura wouldnt have any sasuke anymore MUHAHAHAHAHA XDDD

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 13 2012, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True but what is sasuke doing now you know is he gonna go on the path of good or evil there is a chance too that naruto will have trouble with madara pffffff a chance ( he will have a great pain even if K11 will help) so what if sasuke decide too help him against madara and have a change of heart and i think he will it will suck too cause i wanted too have the ultimate fight between him and naruto haha.anyway if sasuke helps he will get + points at sakura i kinda fear that:D

one question..how will sasuke even be there... huh.gif
He went to emo land with orichimaru and he might stumble upon karin too ....he's searching for answers and something about a scroll so he's not gonna get involved until he finds answers and honestly for once JUST ONCE I would like him to think before he starts killing people dry.gif when orichimaru asked him i he's having second thoughts about revenge he clearly stated otherwise
the only way Sasuke will bet + points at sakra is IF he saves her which wont happen since he'll kill her befor she can say sasuke-kun rolleyes.gif or he'll just ignore since he doesn't really give a damn about her
NaruSaku4life3g great post as usual a_thumbs.gif

Edited by candycane-chan, 12 September 2012 - 08:56 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 12 2012, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
one question..how will sasuke even be there... huh.gif
He went to emo land with orichimaru and he might stumble upon karin too ....he's searching for answers and something about a scroll so he's not gonna get involved until he finds answers and honestly for once JUST ONCE I would like him to think before he starts killing people dry.gif when orichimaru asked him i he's having second thoughts about revenge he clearly stated otherwise
the only way Sasuke will bet + points at sakra is IF he saves her which wont happen since he'll kill her befor she can say sasuke-kun rolleyes.gif or he'll just ignore since he doesn't really give a damn about her
NaruSaku4life3f great post as usual a_thumbs.gif



hehe well thats true i gess but he went too the uchiha hideout right? wasent that in the hiddenleave in his old house basement or am i wrong there dont remember?

Edited by Arachnia, 12 September 2012 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 13 2012, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hehe well thats true i gess but he went too the uchiha hideout right? wasent that in the hiddenleave in is house basement or am i wrong there dont remember?

mmm i dont remember either headscratch.gif
but sakura isnt there anyway,her and the alliance are heading towards naruto,so even if it was in the hidden leave they wont meet ,and if it happened after the war then acually....dont get me wrong...but i would lke for them to meet again for sakura to dinally resolve her deelings for him maybe this time acually put a fight,after all she has to be ready for it this time,right kishi? fu.png
as a matter of fact i am dying to see a sakura vs sasuke as much as i want to see sakura and naruto training together but sadly both have a 10% chance to happen....

but back to the point even if they do meet it'll all be naruto sasuke not sakura.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 12 2012, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hehe well thats true i gess but he went too the uchiha hideout right? wasent that in the hiddenleave in is house basement or am i wrong there dont remember?

We don't know where he went, but that place can be possible, especially the way Orochimaru said it, "Somewhere you know very familiar." Remember, everyone is at war, so less security. Also, yeah, Karin will bump to him that way, so that seems very likely for her to reunite with the team. Question is what will happen next. It's funny that the databook actually said something that should have told me that Karin is an Uzumaki. Read it if you have the chance. Anyway, like I said, they must fight each other because of the hype and even Itachi acknowledged that it's up to Naruto to take care of. So, him teaming up with Naruto NOW will be no point. That's basically saying, "Well Naruto, you didn't do anything." Naruto needs to be the one that changes Sasuke. The hype already surrounded them. There's no turning back.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Arachnia @ Sep 12 2012, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True but what is sasuke doing now you know is he gonna go on the path of good or evil there is a chance too that naruto will have trouble with madara pffffff a chance ( he will have a great pain even if K11 will help) so what if sasuke decide too help him against madara and have a change of heart and i think he will it will suck too cause i wanted too have the ultimate fight between him and naruto haha.anyway if sasuke helps he will get + points at sakura i kinda fear that:D

Sasuke will still be on the path of evil, he won't change that as he even admitted that he won't have second thoughts.
Sasuke won't be in Madara and Obito's fight and even if, he won't help them besides he's on this journey with Orochimaru.
If Sasuke returns to Konoha or he did something right, there won't be + points in Sakura from him and it will be illegitimate cause Naruto has reached her heart and the feelings for him are in presence.

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 13 2012, 12:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
mmm i dont remember either headscratch.gif
but sakura isnt there anyway,her and the alliance are heading towards naruto,so even if it was in the hidden leave they wont meet ,and if it happened after the war then acually....dont get me wrong...but i would lke for them to meet again for sakura to dinally resolve her deelings for him maybe this time acually put a fight,after all she has to be ready for it this time,right kishi? fu.png
as a matter of fact i am dying to see a sakura vs sasuke as much as i want to see sakura and naruto training together but sadly both have a 10% chance to happen....

but back to the point even if they do meet it'll all be naruto sasuke not sakura.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 13 2012, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke will still be on the path of evil, he won't change that as he even admitted that he won't have second thoughts.
Sasuke won't be in Madara and Obito's fight and even if, he won't help them besides he's on this journey with Orochimaru.
If Sasuke returns to Konoha or he did something right, there won't be + points in Sakura from him and it will illegitimate cause Naruto has reached her heart and the feelings for him are in presence.


That is something i always dreamed of happy.gif


yup that's pretty much it happy.gif
And besides even if he does return i also will see it more of a + for naruto since she'll probably think how determined he is and might recall the promise and naruto might show a sad smile if he saw them just talking because if he returns ( i doubt it but still) then he'll have to talk to sakura after all he has done a simple hit for his pride wont hurt tongue.gif

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 12 2012, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for the compliment. smile.gif


Yes, but I don't know about Kakashi. In any case, it will be the fact he may get the Hokage title or at least a temporary one. The reason why I only mention Naruto/Sakura is because not only they're the main characters, which most likely put more emphasis on them, but the fact they're still young. Kakashi took it normal when the Third Hokage died, so he already understand the feelings. Shizune will get her development as well, just not as much as those two. I don't like to say it that way but it is Kishi's ideal of showing who counts more. Sakura and Shizune can share the development. That can happen. Again, don't leave Naruto out of this. Naruto is the one that changed Tsunade to pursue of taking the Hokage title and the fact she was able to move on. So of course, Naruto got a lot of this involvement and like I said before, it will only be Naruto/Sakura that can connect with each other in terms of Team 7. Sasuke is not present and he couldn't care a lot. The best we might get is "..." and maybe "Well that's too bad. This makes Naruto's situation a lot harder. Let's see if he can ever climb up from this." Remember, even though he's not that bad from Kage Summit arc, he still couldn't care less and won't connect with anyone. This is his own story. Naruto is connected to Sakura for being in Konoha and share the same situation.

So you shouldn't be afraid about Sasuke. If anything, it will only get Naruto/Sakura rolling with each other. Not to mention leaving Hinata out of this story even more so before. So yeah, if anything, they could have first make Sakura deal with Shizune while Naruto deal with either Kakashi or Iruka, or both. Remember, they were there during the 3rd Hokage funeral. They both know the pain. Then, after they both deal with the situation, Naruto and Sakura will get back together and share their thoughts. And the rest is up to Kishi or could go with my suggestions from my previous post.



There is a reason why my user name is NS means Logic, is not to have a pretty name is because NS fans normally make the most logical post I ever read with logical basis and panels to back them up, plus the pairing really makes more sense than all the pairing basing on the large focus the two characters gets.

Now the reason why you see I disagree with you and ignore many NH and SS fans is not because I want to be the bad guy, is because in my arguments I always try to speak in a neutral standpoint, while considering every odd, that is the why I like reading the Anti pairing fans' comments, is mostly because they judge all the pairings the same way, while I try to elaborate a counter to their argument.

I read your post, but lately I started to notice that your argument are mostly focused on Naruto and Sakura, and you add the Parallel only when they help Naruto and Sakura, I don't, I try to look and think all possible way and is also a big reason why many times the arguments I make are very close of the event we get in the Manga, before I was just like you, I didn't care about Hinata I make a statement saying that Hinata already got the message, everything is on NH fans, they are forcing a relationship Hinata is not thinking about, but then we got 558, 559 and 573, since then I always try to be more open minded and honest about any argument I make.

For me NH is very much alive just like SS, they can only die when Kishi makes a panel with Sakura saying that she wants to start a relationship with Naruto and Naruto saying that he will always love Sakura, or more blatant with a mutual confusion about the way they feel about each other. NS makes more sense and has everything on his side minus Sakura's lingering feelings. But NH and SS are still very much alive and we can still see the manga ending with those two pairings.

What I'm trying to say is that I love speculation, but I try to avoid my arguments sounding as if I'm sure, I don't really know if Kishi sees this Manga the same way we do, even when we try to stick to the fact we could still be wrong.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:53 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 12 2012, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yup that's pretty much it happy.gif
And besides even if he does return i also will see it more of a + for naruto since she'll probably think how determined he is and might recall the promise and naruto might show a sad smile if he saw them just talking because if he returns ( i doubt it but still) then he'll have to talk to sakura after all he has done a simple hit for his pride wont hurt tongue.gif

It's good to know that I'm not the only one who wants a sasuke sakura fight laugh.gif just onepunch sakura you can do that cool.gif DEVELOPMENT

do you seriously want Sakura to die? she's nothing compared to him.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:06 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Sep 12 2012, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do you seriously want Sakura to die? she's nothing compared to him.


Why not??? Tsunade did managed to land a few blows on Orochimaru enough to beat the crap out of him. We know how much Kishi loves parallels and he has already shown us enough that team 7 is a parallel of the sanins, I will not be surprise if we see Sakura landing a punch on Sasuke for all the hell he has put Naruto and her.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:27 AM

I just read some arguments in NF Pairing debate thread, and I just..............................................exploded.

Luckily I don't have a account on that site, if I did I may have typed something I would regret. But if you read through the comments on that debate thread, I think you may be like me and see that the pro-NS arguments are TOTALLY KICKING THE ANIT-NS A$$ES. Yet I keep reading counter arguments from others, and even some more neutral fans defending the Ant-NS/Pro-NH/SS side. In fact, I read a pretty funny post on the Anti-NS forum saying that we IGNORE the moment where Sakura is hugging Sasuke in front of Naruto, and that we believe NS is written in the stars (I actually saw a little sig mocking the current anime ending by having the words NARSAK LITERALLY WRITTEN IN THE STARS). I actually thought it was funny, we make fun of NH of being like that, so it makes sense for them to do the same. Though I have read comments from former NH fans that the fan base may not be to far off as how we mock them.............but that information maybe inaccurate and just coming from bitter fans.

So it wasn't reading that comment that sent off the fuse (though I was a little offended that they truly see us like that, maybe the way we think of Naruhina fans act isn't correct either). What made me explode was reading this comment "Naruto and Hinata, no doubt. But why people are overreacting on it, like here. Act normal."

I just want to say, before I go on my mega rant, I don't know person who wrote that comment. I have nothing against that person, and they are just an other Naruto fan like the rest of us. I'm just going to explode about that comment, so here I go...........*deep breath*

WHY IS IT SO OBVIOUS THAT IT'S GOING TO END WITH NARUTO AND HINATA TOGETHER????!?!??!?!?!? WE HARDLY SEE THEM INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER, SO HOW DOES THAT EQUAL THAT THEY WILL GET TOGETHER IN THE END?!?! IS BECAUSE HINATA LIKES HIM, WELL NARUTO ALSO LIKES SAKURA, AND SAKURA LIKES SASUKE. SO DOES THAT MEAN THOSE PAIRINGS HAVE THE SAME EQUAL GROUNDS??????!?!?!?!?!?!??!

IS IT OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE MANGA HAS SHOWN US 'SOOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT' BETWEEN? WELL HAS ALSO SHOWN EVEN MORE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN NARUTO AND SAKURA!

IS BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE OPENINGS AND ENDINGS THAT THE ANIME SHOWS NARUHINA??? WELL THERE ARE SOME NARUHINA OPENINGS AND ENDINGS, THERE IS EVEN MORE WITH NARUSAKU!!! IN FACT, THE NARUSAKU HAS SHOWN WAY MORE SAKURA>>>>>>NARUTO THAN NARUTO>>>>>>HINATA!!!

IS IT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF NARUTO GAMES THEY SHOWED NARUTO AND HINATA PARTNERING UP AS 'SECRET LOVER'? WELL IN SEVERAL NARUTO GAMES THEY HAVE SHOWN MANY NARUSAKU MOMENTS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL STORY! LIKE SAKURA WANTING TO BE WITH NARUTO WITHOUT IT LOOKING LIKE A DATE, OR WHEN NARUTO TOLD THAT ONE KAGE THAT HE LOVES SAKURA AND HE PLANS TO CONFESS TO HER ONE DAY!!!!!!!!

IS IT BECAUSE THE FILLERS SUPPORT NARUHINA??..............................NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T HAVE FILLERS WHERE IT SHOWS NARUTO HAVING ANY FEELINGS FOR HINATA, OR FILLERS WHERE WE SEE SASUKE HAVING FEELINGS FOR SAKURA! INSTEAD WE HAVE FILLERS THAT SHOW SAKURA ENCOURAGING NARUTO, AND A FILLER EPISODE THAT SHOWS THAT NARUTO IS STILL IN LOVE WITH SAKURA, EVEN AFTER HER AND HINATA'S CONFESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS BECAUSE THE MOVIES SHOW MORE NARUTO AND HINATA INTERACTIONS..............................that actually maybe true, as their was a whole movie with Hinata as a lead (I think it was Bonds). I haven't seen the movies, so I wouldn't know...................BUT.............THERE..........WAS...........FREAKING....
..................ROAD TO NINJA!!!!!!!!!!!! AND I DON'T NEED TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE ABOUT THE SPOILERS ABOUT THAT MOVIE DO I????? (it also doesn't hurt us that Kishi was in charged of it)

WHEN HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAJOR IMPLICATIONS THAT NARUHINA WAS THE PAIRING THAT HAS NO DOUBT OF HAPPENING!!!!!
IT..........JUST BLOWS MY MIND.........OF HOW SO MANY PEOPLE.........ACTUALLY HONESTLY SEE NARUHINA AS THE END PAIRING.....................
Maybe......maybe if this was part 1, I may understand more. But........now?
Uhhhh.........honestly this going to give me heart attack one day if I continue this (so glad I'm only eighteen).
Okay......I think I let it all out.........whew.............

As a side note, I do agree with the comment that we do overact with this whole pairing thing.......which is ironic because I think I just gave us the very definition of 'overreacting'.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:41 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 12 2012, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is a reason why my user name is NS means Logic, is not to have a pretty name is because NS fans normally make the most logical post I ever read with logical basis and panels to back them up, plus the pairing really makes more sense than all the pairing basing on the large focus the two characters gets.

Now the reason why you see I disagree with you and ignore many NH and SS fans is not because I want to be the bad guy, is because in my arguments I always try to speak in a neutral standpoint, while considering every odd, that is the why I like reading the Anti pairing fans' comments, is mostly because they judge all the pairings the same way, while I try to elaborate a counter to their argument.

I read your post, but lately I started to notice that your argument are mostly focused on Naruto and Sakura, and you add the Parallel only when they help Naruto and Sakura, I don't, I try to look and think all possible way and is also a big reason why many times the arguments I make are very close of the event we get in the Manga, before I was just like you, I didn't care about Hinata I make a statement saying that Hinata already got the message, everything is on NH fans, they are forcing a relationship Hinata is not thinking about, but then we got 558, 559 and 573, since then I always try to be more open minded and honest about any argument I make.

For me NH is very much alive just like SS, they can only die when Kishi makes a panel with Sakura saying that she wants to start a relationship with Naruto and Naruto saying that he will always love Sakura, or more blatant with a mutual confusion about the way they feel about each other. NS makes more sense and has everything on his side minus Sakura's lingering feelings. But NH and SS are still very much alive and we can still see the manga ending with those two pairings.

What I'm trying to say is that I love speculation, but I try to avoid my arguments sounding as if I'm sure, I don't really know if Kishi sees this Manga the same way we do, even when we try to stick to the fact we could still be wrong.

Oh, I see what you saying. You betraying us! How dare you!

I'm just kidding. But really, I understand your point of view. That said keep in mind, this is a debate thread about NS, so of course I will only talk about NS. I know Kakashi and Shizune will get the development from Tsunade's death (if it happens). Right now, I'm here to share my possibility for NS can go to. Granted it's not the best idea and/or it's debatable to see if it's considered good, I understand your open minded for the other pairings and I respect that. That's why I am hoping for the fiasco from Hinata, which this arc seems like the final shot she has to confront Naruto if she willing to stand up with him. Funny, because Naruto only has to think Sakura in his head and bam, the chance for NH is gone for good. But the reason why I think it's almost gone for good is because well, it seems like Kishi kept going with this parallel fetish of his and Sasuke is out of the picture until the next arc. Now there's a problem going on with Tsunade. Death or not, Naruto and Sakura are going to have a development and Sasuke is not there for comfort. So yeah, Sakura has no one else but Naruto in terms of Team 7 may I remind you. Plus, Naruto is close to Tsunade and pretty sure Sakura knows that too, hence her trying to cheer him up before.

Kishi is keeping the idea that a loser always lose, but Naruto will prove that wrong and not just because the parallel. The idea of Hokage is still there and there are many reinforcements that tell the audience that once he is set, there's no turning back. Any other pairings would actually damage the theme. If there's no theme, MAYBE JUST MAYBE things would be different. Then again, you said it yourself. This pairing is the most logical one of them all. It has everything going. No matter what people say, if Naruto and Sakura don't get together and ended up with others, then why wasted so many panels? Like let's look at the feeding scene. Okay, say Kishi wants no development or foreshadowing in this scene right. All he had to do is this:

Naruto: Alright! Ramen! Ow. Dammit. My hand...
Sakura: Well, this must be your bad luck. I can help...

That or don't have that "I can help..." Noticed the difference? The difference is a normal panel with him hurt. Why? Because I removed the flashback. Not as effective. Then why Kishi added a flashback to when Sakura healing Naruto's hand? Why was it necessary? Why make Naruto think it's a romantic mood? It's a development for what? Get stronger? Not necessarily. The real development is Sakura getting closer to him, especially with Naruto's smile, which of course he cares for her to smile like him. If you read panel-by-panel, you noticed that Naruto decided to light her mood to make her happy after she felt worried that his hand can be damaged for good, let alone chakra. So again, why go through that much development?

Have you noticed that every new arc starts off with Naruto and Sakura (with a guest(s) or not)? Look back now and tell me not. Kishi clearly stated that Sakura is the heroine and nothing will change that. She gets more development time than anyone else that is not main characters. Sure, she gets treated the least in the main character's rosters, but main is main. If there's a new arc (most likely for now), then you can bet that they will start off first, along with Shizune and Kakashi. That all said Hinata's luck is almost out. Is it still there? Yes. Will it win? Chance is 15%. Naruto is NOT going to change. Remember, him changing will destroy the manga completely. I am dead serious. SS has a horrible message to the audience that Twilight's author would even laugh at. I probably forgot to cover something, but ask me if you must.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 13 September 2012 - 04:43 AM.


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