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#42161 Liu bie

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 03:26 PM

Directly to the Kokoro.

 

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Posted 03 December 2015 - 02:06 PM

glomps!

kabe don!


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Posted 03 December 2015 - 04:59 PM

Tsk Tsk Tsk. Getting yourself ready how to lie in your responses doesn't always save you Kishimoto.

 

Amen to that. All you may do is dig yourself in deeper.



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Posted 04 December 2015 - 12:22 AM

Right now I am listing  small box of Christmas music  that is outside of my house, it should be nice to listen it, but not last year. How sad was  while I was listening music in the moment  Naruto ended and not just was ending, it was the month for each hope that something good for us happen was crush.

 

That the SP and Kishi thought it was a simple manga and they didn't thought about NS fans feelings.


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Posted 04 December 2015 - 05:58 AM

Maybe he should have followed Odas way of thinking. I believe he said even though he had a plan on a 5 year ending he has had trouble getting the development to happen so he has extended it, also when people ask about possible ships he says even though he never intended for any ships from major characters he is open minded to the idea.

 

What i like about this is that he is actually working on the developments and not rushing it. If Kishi was smarter he should have actually taken the time to look back and see what the developments were and how it would work into the ending he wanted. Its obvious what it was leading too and if he was adamant about his ending he should have started development to his ending rather then continue a red herring that even he admitted to being not in his skill of writing do to his lack of romance writing.

 

The fact that he answers questions like hes oblivious to some ships and liking towards characters like Sakura pisses me off more. Stop throwing us more new content and bs products that few people care about and just give us a solid answer and solution to his horrible ending. hell i would pay to watch this answer and solution.



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Posted 04 December 2015 - 02:57 PM

Today  is one the of the best scenes in Natsumi NS doujin:

 

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 04:30 PM

Today  is one the of the best scenes in Natsumi NS doujin:

 

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Very nice :D Sweet too



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Posted 06 December 2015 - 01:54 AM

beautiful cosplay of sakura vs sasori

 

 

hi there, welcome back! :rainbowsheep:

 

uh, not sure what you mean.. off the top of my head, a list of things that he said

 

-sakura might look like a bad woman if she changed :kappa:

-he decided the pairings from the beginning

-no wait he decided it from the middle :kappa:

-his wife is upset that narusaku didn't happen :kappa:

i love this interview because in response to whether his family is more like the SS or NH family, he says neither because his wife is strong—meaning sakura is not a strong character in SS. straight from the horse's mouth, guys.

 

beautiful cosplay photo btw.

Okay. The more I know what that guy is saying everytime, the more I think he's a liar when answering.

 

At first, he said it was from the beginning then now he says from the middle he decided.

 

Second, he had no idea and didn't realize he caused such controversy ? He lives in Japan where the NS fans are way more than NH fans. Even his wife is with NS.

 

Third, I saw it he's lying much when he said at the end that his wife might secretly realize that Hinata wasn't a model of her that contradicts what he said before in the interview.

 

The anime industry has gone very greedy...

not to mention that he said he wanted to mislead fans into thinking it was ns. how could he NOT cause controversy if he deliberately fooled fans into believing it would be ns, only to reveal otherwise in the end?

 

also, have you heard nh fans' arguments against nh being decided on in the "middle" of the story? because, according to them, before, he said he "planned" nh from the start, which is different from "deciding" on it. apparently. and iirc he never actually used the term "plan" when referred to nh, always "decided." he at first said he decided on nh a "long time ago" (very vague, could mean anything from a year to ten years), then said he decided on nh in "quite an early stage" in the story (lol). later he said that nh was decided when he began part 2 (which imo most people think of as the middle of the story, even though technically it's not). that's the most specific he's gotten. and while i don't believe he decided on them that early—definitely not—in general i would be more inclined to believe his later interviews, because he probably didn't prep for them as he did for the ones directly after the manga ended.

 

also thanks for that scarf info hanabi. just more evidence that kishimoto is a liar.


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Posted 06 December 2015 - 04:54 AM

i love this interview because in response to whether his family is more like the SS or NH family, he says neither because his wife is strong—meaning sakura is not a strong character in SS. straight from the horse's mouth, guys.

 

beautiful cosplay photo btw.

not to mention that he said he wanted to mislead fans into thinking it was ns. how could he NOT cause controversy if he deliberately fooled fans into believing it would be ns, only to reveal otherwise in the end?

 

also, have you heard nh fans' arguments against nh being decided on in the "middle" of the story? because, according to them, before, he said he "planned" nh from the start, which is different from "deciding" on it. apparently. and iirc he never actually used the term "plan" when referred to nh, always "decided." he at first said he decided on nh a "long time ago" (very vague, could mean anything from a year to ten years), then said he decided on nh in "quite an early stage" in the story (lol). later he said that nh was decided when he began part 2 (which imo most people think of as the middle of the story, even though technically it's not). that's the most specific he's gotten. and while i don't believe he decided on them that early—definitely not—in general i would be more inclined to believe his later interviews, because he probably didn't prep for them as he did for the ones directly after the manga ended.

 

also thanks for that scarf info hanabi. just more evidence that kishimoto is a liar.

The controversy isn't really the "misleading" in general (because if it was truly meant to be a red herring and actually well executed, there wouldn't be a problem...but it wasn't, lol), but rather following it up with saying that the fans (with common sense, not just NS fans) "read the manga wrong" and therefore insulting a huge portion of the fanbase by basically passing off his now-obvious ineptitude and inability to plan, to stick to the guns of the story, and so on, onto those fans as if it's that portion of the fandom's fault the story turned out so badly (when it was the NH fandom, SP's bias, and, again, his own ineptitude) is what really burns people up. It would be like if Michael Bay blamed the Transformers fans for Revenge of the Fallen being such a bad (Transformers) movie.

And in terms of NH being "planned/decided", the most specific he got that I recall was actually during the earlier interviews after the manga was done, where he said it was decided only three months before the ending (which would be believable and help explain such BS, if only a tiny bit)...only to change it to "since the beginning" literally the very next week in another interview.


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Posted 06 December 2015 - 05:20 AM

The controversy isn't really the "misleading" in general (because if it was truly meant to be a red herring and actually well executed, there wouldn't be a problem...but it wasn't, lol), but rather following it up with saying that the fans (with common sense, not just NS fans) "read the manga wrong" and therefore insulting a huge portion of the fanbase by basically passing off his now-obvious ineptitude and inability to plan, to stick to the guns of the story, and so on, onto those fans as if it's that portion of the fandom's fault the story turned out so badly (when it was the NH fandom, SP's bias, and, again, his own ineptitude) is what really burns people up. It would be like if Michael Bay blamed the Transformers fans for Revenge of the Fallen being such a bad (Transformers) movie.

And in terms of NH being "planned/decided", the most specific he got that I recall was actually during the earlier interviews after the manga was done, where he said it was decided only three months before the ending (which would be believable and help explain such BS, if only a tiny bit)...only to change it to "since the beginning" literally the very next week in another interview.

I was talking about the controversy that the interview and Kishimoto were referring to.

 

Could you provide a link to where he said he decided only three months prior? I don't recall that, and really, he would have needed to decide on nh earlier in order for the The Last to be written (or have nh decided for him).


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Posted 06 December 2015 - 07:00 AM

i love this interview because in response to whether his family is more like the SS or NH family, he says neither because his wife is strong—meaning sakura is not a strong character in SS. straight from the horse's mouth, guys.

 

beautiful cosplay photo btw.

not to mention that he said he wanted to mislead fans into thinking it was ns. how could he NOT cause controversy if he deliberately fooled fans into believing it would be ns, only to reveal otherwise in the end?

 

also, have you heard nh fans' arguments against nh being decided on in the "middle" of the story? because, according to them, before, he said he "planned" nh from the start, which is different from "deciding" on it. apparently. and iirc he never actually used the term "plan" when referred to nh, always "decided." he at first said he decided on nh a "long time ago" (very vague, could mean anything from a year to ten years), then said he decided on nh in "quite an early stage" in the story (lol). later he said that nh was decided when he began part 2 (which imo most people think of as the middle of the story, even though technically it's not). that's the most specific he's gotten. and while i don't believe he decided on them that early—definitely not—in general i would be more inclined to believe his later interviews, because he probably didn't prep for them as he did for the ones directly after the manga ended.

 

also thanks for that scarf info hanabi. just more evidence that kishimoto is a liar.

I wouldn't trust anything Kishimoto says because he is vague in all his answers. I remember i read an interview from back in 2006 were he said he had planned out how he wanted his ending to happen already. Furthermore we aren't fans because we fell for his red herring we are fans because we like Sakura more, Hinata is extremely underdeveloped, and the fact that one day he says he doesnt understand why there are sakura fans or how we fell for his red herring then come up and say his own staff and wife wanted NS makes anyone think wtf.

 

one of my biggest dislikes of Kishimoto is the fact that he felt the need to trash a main character to get his ship in the end. Even going as far as to say Sakura married a guy who tried to kill her and even at that point is distant and his compassion for her doesnt even cover an inch of what Naruto gave throughout the series i will never understand why he was so adamant about that ship sailing. He has admitted to being bad at writing romance and seeing how this ended its obvious he didnt seek advice or help from anyone.

 

He finally wraps it up in Naruto The Last by spitting at even non shippers by saying that Narutos love for Sakura was only because of rivalry with Sasuke. Non shippers trash the ending because of how rushed and undeveloped it is and the only people applauding the ending are those blinded by the NH win and those who like to argue about something that was never developed.



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Posted 07 December 2015 - 04:30 PM

Another page of celious:

 

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Posted 07 December 2015 - 11:33 PM

Oh guys just watched a new vid by watchmojo and its a good one Top 10 Sexiest Women in Anime, and guess what No Hinata at all lol oh there is a god this is why I like them even they know Hinata is sad.

 

At least Ryuko form Kill La Kill was on there and Erza form Fariy Tail and their number 1 Boa Hancock even though i'm just getting back into One Piece she is way better than Hinata.



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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:33 AM

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Where did you find this cause props to who ever did this it is really good.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:10 AM



A very NaruSaku-style pairing. :D



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:25 AM



A very NaruSaku-style pairing. :D

And they compare Goku Chi-Chi with Naruhina. And I don't even watch Dragon Ball Z. 


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 08:22 AM

And they compare Goku Chi-Chi with Naruhina. And I don't even watch Dragon Ball Z. 

 

Now that is a nice burn, Ken! :D

 

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:55 AM

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 11:46 AM



A very NaruSaku-style pairing. :D

 

Nothing like NaruSaku I say personally cause well they didn't develop any friendship before marrying but stil an INFINITELYbetter done couple than the trash with no soul we got at the end of kittening Naruto. I've said this before but even though Toriyama said he doesn't feel he is any good with romance no showed any interest i writing it he did  WAY better job then those boned-headed idiots at SP :superior:  


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 11:26 PM

Source: Team SasuIno

 

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...just need to have Naruto's hair done so it doesn't match the scumbag version...I absolutely despise that look, not only because it just looks plain bad on him, but it has come to physically represent just how bad the character himself and the franchise turned out, so even if it's NS or something, I just can't come to really like such images if the artist uses that hairstyle.


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