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[Don-kun]

Regardless of what Happen if Tsunade die the council might elect Kakashi as the Next Hokage, Naruto can only be a young Hokage if the tittle is passed on to him by the current Hokage her self or all the one who qualify for the position before him dies since he is too young and the elder and Dynamo might over look or ignore Naruto.

I don't want to believe that people want many character to die for Naruto to become Hokage after the war, and Tsunade who means a lot more to Naruto than Sakura die because we want Sakura to develop.

[merryGOflava]

Regardless of what Happen if Tsunade die the council might elect Kakashi as the Next Hokage, Naruto can only be a young Hokage if the tittle is passed on to him by the current Hokage her self or all the one who qualify for the position before him dies since he is too young and the elder and Dynamo might over look or ignore Naruto.

I don't want to believe that people want many character to die for Naruto to become Hokage after the war, and Tsunade who means a lot more to Naruto than Sakura die because we want Sakura to develop.

not to be a nitpicker.....but when were those the rules???? or is that just right opinion?

cause i dont think it was ever stated that there were rules for young hokages

[Don-kun]

There are no rules But the next Hokage will be choose the the bigger bossess in the Fire country, when they thought Tsunsde die against Pain, Kakashi was electec, but Danzou take over, when he was called a traitor they though about Kakashi again, Naruto has the power but he has no brain, To be honest Shikamaru will make a better Hokage than Naruto, I think you get what I meant, he is not mature enough.

Edited by NS means logic, 11 September 2012 - 08:05 PM.

[Arachnia]

There are no rules But the next Hokage will be choose the the bigger bossess in the Fire country, when they thought Tsunsde die against Pain, Kakashi was electec, but Danzou take over, when he was called a traitor they though about Kakashi again, Naruto has the power but he has no brain, To be honest Shikamaru will make a better Hokage than Naruto, I think you get what I meant, he is not mature enough.

hehe shikamaru will say WHAT A DRAGG but some 1 gotta do it

But i think Naruto has more willpower yo

Edited by Arachnia, 11 September 2012 - 08:09 PM.

[Don-kun]

hehe shikamaru will say WHAT A DRAGG but some 1 gotta do it

But i think Naruto has more willpower yo

I meant Naruto doesn't know how to lead he is a person who rush to the battle first then he ask questions later, to me the guy isn't mature enough, only someone who likes him can ignore that fact, Tsunade at his current age or Kakashi after some years.

When it comes so Sasuke Naruto will not show a decision that will protect his village, Naruto have that Sasuke problem making him go against the village if it means doing it to save Sasuke, Naruto doesn't think properly he needs to mature a lot more.

[candycane-chan]

I meant Naruto doesn't know how to lead he is a person who rush to the battle first then he ask questions later, to me the guy isn't mature enough, only someone who likes him can ignore that fact, Tsunade at his current age or Kakashi after some years.

When it comes so Sasuke Naruto will not show a decision that will protect his village, Naruto have that Sasuke problem making him go against the village if it means doing it to save Sasuke, Naruto doesn't think properly he needs to mature a lot more.

/\ this ...i agree with this he is droven by his emotions that fact that he wanted to die with him and leave everything behind he needs to learn how to be detached so he needs alott of time

[Arachnia]

I meant Naruto doesn't know how to lead he is a person who rush to the battle first then he ask questions later, to me the guy isn't mature enough, only someone who likes him can ignore that fact, Tsunade at his current age or Kakashi after some years.

When it comes so Sasuke Naruto will not show a decision that will protect his village, Naruto have that Sasuke problem making him go against the village if it means doing it to save Sasuke, Naruto doesn't think properly he needs to mature a lot more.

Yea thats true realistically speaking TBH i dont really want him too become hokage yet need more arcs

[PhenixElite]

I meant Naruto doesn't know how to lead he is a person who rush to the battle first then he ask questions later, to me the guy isn't mature enough, only someone who likes him can ignore that fact, Tsunade at his current age or Kakashi after some years.

When it comes so Sasuke Naruto will not show a decision that will protect his village, Naruto have that Sasuke problem making him go against the village if it means doing it to save Sasuke, Naruto doesn't think properly he needs to mature a lot more.

Its true that naruto rushes in every battle but as you can see, it always works and i also cant imagine kakashi as hokage because he dont wants to be one and his face with the mask would look strange on the stonewall.

Also there isnt so much time left in manga to make 2 hokage changes in the time.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

There are no rules But the next Hokage will be choose the the bigger bossess in the Fire country, when they thought Tsunsde die against Pain, Kakashi was electec, but Danzou take over, when he was called a traitor they though about Kakashi again, Naruto has the power but he has no brain, To be honest Shikamaru will make a better Hokage than Naruto, I think you get what I meant, he is not mature enough.

here you are wrong, you dont need to be skilled on administrative skills, because hokage always have assistants. the strongest are hokages.

[merryGOflava]

There are no rules But the next Hokage will be choose the the bigger bossess in the Fire country, when they thought Tsunsde die against Pain, Kakashi was electec, but Danzou take over, when he was called a traitor they though about Kakashi again, Naruto has the power but he has no brain, To be honest Shikamaru will make a better Hokage than Naruto, I think you get what I meant, he is not mature enough.

naruto is always gonna be dumb XD

and he can lead the village with some help :3

[ultranx]

For once I feel like posting a rant. I am tired of the nh excuse that Naruto and Sakura are too close as best friends to be together so here's my counter argument. Any of you ever played the Mega Man Battle Network game series or watched the Mega Man NT Warrior/Rock Man EXE anime or Mega Man NT Warrior manga based off it? Basically there are 2 characters who are best friends, Lan and Mayl. They know each other since preschool and are next door neighbors, are in the same class in school, and are pretty much best friends and have the biggest bond out of anyone in the series. You'd think they're too close as best friends to get together right? Wrong. At the end of Battle Network 6 after the credits it says they got married and have a son named Patch. So pretty much that being too close as best friends to get together and being like brother and sister is a load of crap, nuff said. Hopefully that will make anyone here have more faith in NaruSaku now. And another thing is Lan is pretty much as much of an idiot at times as Naruto lol. And there were hints pretty similar to NaruSaku in some of the Battle Network games too (and the games are the true canon lol)like Lan dreaming of Mayl (battle network 2) and little dates as friends (anime and a few games)and Lan peeping on Mayl and Lan saving her carrying her bridal style a couple of times in the anime and manga(sound familiar?). Only difference is no tragic past other than Lan's twin brother dying(and Mega Man is pretty much the twin brother revived by the dad) and the fact that both had no feelings for anyone except each other, though there was Dex crushing on Mayl and Lan had fangirls since he was the savior of the world a lot of times.

Edited by ultranx, 11 September 2012 - 10:09 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Naruto had also no chance to talk to jiraya before he died and i dont thin that kishi gives a f*** what haters think if you ask me!

And he shouldnt. If a writer of any kind really gives a damn about what his supporters think, it's just wrong. It's his story, and he can do whatever the hell he pleases with it. The haters can just be haters and bash a fictinal character all they want. All they do is make themselves look like idots in the long run.

[merryGOflava]

And he shouldnt. If a writer of any kind really gives a damn about what his supporters think, it's just wrong. It's his story, and he can do whatever the hell he pleases with it. The haters can just be haters and bash a fictinal character all they want. All they do is make themselves look like idots in the long run.

i think writers should care to an extent about their supporters.

they make stuff interesting so we do keep reading. a book is to be read by other people, and writers want them to like it.

but of course that shouldnt cloud your ideas, just help add to them.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i think writers should care to an extent about their supporters.

they make stuff interesting so we do keep reading. a book is to be read by other people, and writers want them to like it.

but of course that shouldnt cloud your ideas, just help add to them.

i disagree with you, i writer makes the story that he likes if you like his job you continue reading if u dont you stop, is even complicated with a mangaka only around 50% care about the story and debates the rest just care if naruto will end with hinata or not to such a point of saying that he would drop or kill kishimoto, when the mangaka cant do what he pleases he feels discouraged to continue writing/drawing.

Have you read "A song of ice and fire" there's a lot of characters that i liked and most of them are dead, i did not drop it because the story is interesting, he did things that i dont liked but he writes without taking any advice from his fans, and he did a great job.

Edited by dovahkiin, 12 September 2012 - 12:53 AM.

[Don-kun]

Its true that naruto rushes in every battle but as you can see, it always works and i also cant imagine kakashi as hokage because he dont wants to be one and his face with the mask would look strange on the stonewall.

Also there isnt so much time left in manga to make 2 hokage changes in the time.

And this is why I don't want to see Tsunade die I already have everything in mind, after war Naruto become Hokage with Tsunade as his adviser and tutor, Shikamaru is right hand, Sakura the head medic with Tsunade having her keeping Naruto staight.

Also like I mention Tsunade dying know will take away her biggest wish what's to see the one she place her last hope finally become Hokage. The things I mention are really fitting with the character we already know and are not OCC since we know that Shikamaru will be his confidence, we can assume Sakura will be the best medic and keeping Naruto straight and obviously we cannot ignore the fact that Tsunade might be the one who helps him with the Hokage role, in other word his mentor with is Hokage duties.

Like I said if she die I cannot see Naruto becoming Hokage after her, is not impossible but for people who focus a lot on Naruto character, knows that without Tsunade's tutoring help it will be hard to see a complete different Naruto just a sudden, it will be odd.

@dova
Sorry But many character has point out that apart from strong the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Hokage were all smart and had a lot of composure, Naruto lack composure and wisdom to lead, he is too emotional.

Wanting to see Tsunade die for Sakura to develop in a better character or to develop NS is just a poor reason, NaruSaku doesn't need that and if Kishi wants he can focus on Sakura with out killing Tsunade, he can make Sakura sense that Tsunade is in danger and allow her to display a new healing skill to save her mentor life. And if we really want to see NS develop with Tsunade's help, then we can finaly have TSunade giving her an advice or asking Sakura to be honest with her felings for Naruto before is too late.

again dova, why make a story that only you will like, if you want people to support your story, you will give them some of what make them happy while trying to stay truth to your original creation, don't you think that there are many Mangaka out there, but because the fans doesn't love their story is the why it goes to hell, Kishi Original Idea wasn't to had Sasuke, he love his story the way he created it, but because he listing to his editor the story become way more popular.

Edited by NS means logic, 12 September 2012 - 01:10 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

And this is why I don't want to see Tsunade die I already have everything in mind, after war Naruto become Hokage with Tsunade as his adviser and tutor, Shikamaru is right hand, Sakura the head medic with Tsunade having her keeping Naruto staight.

Also like I mention Tsunade dying know will take away her biggest wish what's to see the one she place her last hope finally become Hokage. The things I mention are really fitting with the character we already know and are not OCC since we know that Shikamaru will be his confidence, we can assume Sakura will be the best medic and keeping Naruto straight and obviously we cannot ignore the fact that Tsunade might be the one who helps him with the Hokage role, in other word his mentor with is Hokage duties.

Like I said if she die I cannot see Naruto becoming Hokage after her, is not impossible but for people who focus a lot on Naruto his character knows that without Tsunade's tutor help it will be hard to see a complete different Naruto just a sudden, it will be odd.

@dova
Sorry But many character has point out that apart from strong the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Hokage were all smart and had a lot of composure, Naruto lack composure and wisdom to lead, he is too emotional.

So wanting to see Tsunade die for Sakura to develop in a better character or to develop NS is just a poor reason, NaruSaku doesn't need that and if Kishi wants he can focus on Sakura with out killing Tsunade, he can make Sakura sense that Tsunade is in danger and allow her to display a new healing skill to save her mentor life. And if we really want to see NS develop with Tsunade's help, then we can finaly have TSunade giving her an advice or asking Sakura to be honest with her felings for Naruto before is too late.

Ok, looks like I came here at the right time.

Now that the latest chapter is released, I should only talk about the potential future on the horizon, not the chapter itself. Okay, about Tsunade's possible death. I am not a fan of her death equal development for NS in mutual and individual, but it seems like that could be the case. I can't confirm it but it seems like her sentence really worries me. They all in the same health, which is like 10% left in them. That said if Tsunade does another healing technique to them, it seems like her time is up. I hate to say this, but it seems like she will get her final closure through death. Most likely, we will hear everything that she felt from the past to now.

Now, let's talk about her aftermath. I do believe Sakura will get a development from this because they are close. Reread the manga to see how much she care for Tsunade, and it's not just because she's the Hokage. She knows her well enough to be close. If you remember Sakura telling Shikamaru to do some research, she was sadden that Tsunade is feeling really hurt and she knows it. Not to mention, I feel like they are close when they hold hands, waiting for Naruto to finish the fight. It's a sign of good friendship and Kishi put a work to it. For a relationship that is shown small compared to others, it still shows you that their bonds are close. She needed a cheer up because she felt bad as well for Tsunade's injury. Let's not forget how overjoyed she was when Tsunade woke up.

As for Naruto, yes, he will get a development as well. I can already imagine him flashbacking the moment when he first met her. They are close as well as shown many times. Tsunade is the one that put over Naruto as a savior of Konoha during Pain invasion. Naruto might feel bad to have that one argument about Jiraiya death if you remember. Granted I believe it's been taken care of, but stuff like this hunts Naruto. He will get the development for many ways and probably it will be the right time to start thinking about leadership before becoming Hokage. Not saying he will be once she dies, but when the time comes, he must be ready.

As for NS, there are multiple ways. One I could see Naruto holding Sakura as she cries heavily, not to mention Naruto will be upset too. Remember, both of them are close to Tsunade. Once they both go through their developments, they could share their thoughts on the news and probably talk over that Tsunade wants them and the village to stay strong. I believe Naruto will end up cheering Sakura up after the talk, which proceed her to smile gently. Shizune will talk to Sakura, of course, but doubt that Kishi will dismiss Naruto from Sakura. Again, they are close to Tsunade.

Look, I am not a fan of the idea, but if it has to be this way, well damn him and so be it. The real question is: If she's going to die, when? Time is ticking and this could be huge. Be prepare.

[Transformers03]

Ok, looks like I came here at the right time.

Now that the latest chapter is released, I should only talk about the potential future on the horizon, not the chapter itself. Okay, about Tsunade's possible death. I am not a fan of her death equal development for NS in mutual and individual, but it seems like that could be the case. I can't confirm it but it seems like her sentence really worries me. They all in the same health, which is like 10% left in them. That said if Tsunade does another healing technique to them, it seems like her time is up. I hate to say this, but it seems like she will get her final closure through death. Most likely, we will hear everything that she felt from the past to now.

Now, let's talk about her aftermath. I do believe Sakura will get a development from this because they are close. Reread the manga to see how much she care for Tsunade, and it's not just because she's the Hokage. She knows her well enough to be close. If you remember Sakura telling Shikamaru to do some research, she was sadden that Tsunade is feeling really hurt and she knows it. Not to mention, I feel like they are close when they hold hands, waiting for Naruto to finish the fight. It's a sign of good friendship and Kishi put a work to it. For a relationship that is shown small compared to others, it still shows you that their bonds are close. She needed a cheer up because she felt bad as well for Tsunade's injury. Let's not forget how overjoyed she was when Tsunade woke up.

As for Naruto, yes, he will get a development as well. I can already imagine him flashbacking the moment when he first met her. They are close as well as shown many times. Tsunade is the one that put over Naruto as a savior of Konoha during Pain invasion. Naruto might feel bad to have that one argument about Jiraiya death if you remember. Granted I believe it's been taken care of, but stuff like this hunts Naruto. He will get the development for many ways and probably it will be the right time to start thinking about leadership before becoming Hokage. Not saying he will be once she dies, but when the time comes, he must be ready.

As for NS, there are multiple ways. One I could see Naruto holding Sakura as she cries heavily, not to mention Naruto will be upset too. Remember, both of them are close to Tsunade. Once they both go through their developments, they could share their thoughts on the news and probably talk over that Tsunade wants them and the village to stay strong. I believe Naruto will end up cheering Sakura up after the talk, which proceed her to smile gently. Shizune will talk to Sakura, of course, but doubt that Kishi will dismiss Naruto from Sakura. Again, they are close to Tsunade.

Look, I am not a fan of the idea, but if it has to be this way, well damn him and so be it. The real question is: If she's going to die, when? Time is ticking and this could be huge. Be prepare.

I agree with the bolded part, but it does make us look bad to have a beloved character's death as a means to improve our pairing's chances. While I'm sure someone will find out about Tsunade's death, what if it isn't Naruto or Sakura (kind of doubt, though, that at least Naruto wont find out about it). If they do find out about it, how will we know their developments will go the way that we want them to go.

It's fun to predict on future events, and come up with theories, but this is one of these moments that will be classified as being to soon. She isn't even dead yet (giving the possibility she may still come out of this alive), yet here we are discussing about her death and the benefits it MAY give us.

[merryGOflava]

i disagree with you, i writer makes the story that he likes if you like his job you continue reading if u dont you stop, is even complicated with a mangaka only around 50% care about the story and debates the rest just care if naruto will end with hinata or not to such a point of saying that he would drop or kill kishimoto, when the mangaka cant do what he pleases he feels discouraged to continue writing/drawing.

Have you read "A song of ice and fire" there's a lot of characters that i liked and most of them are dead, i did not drop it because the story is interesting, he did things that i dont liked but he writes without taking any advice from his fans, and he did a great job.

as ns means logic said. you dont create the story just for you, you create a story for others also.
if you created a story for yourself then you dont need others to read it.

keeping true to your original idea is important, but trying to make it interesting for the readers is important also. why else do you think kishi has all those assisstants and editors giving him advice. it also helps you think outside what you would normal do.

[Don-kun]

I agree with the bolded part, but it does make us look bad to have a beloved character's death as a means to improve our pairing's chances. While I'm sure someone will find out about Tsunade's death, what if it isn't Naruto or Sakura (kind of doubt, though, that at least Naruto wont find out about it). If they do find out about it, how will we know their developments will go the way that we want them to go.

It's fun to predict on future events, and come up with theories, but this is one of these moments that will be classified as being to soon. She isn't even dead yet (giving the possibility she may still come out of this alive), yet here we are discussing about her death and the benefits it MAY give us.

I agree with this it reminds me of what some ANS said about some of our fans, they needing to see some characters dead to have a better chance, like Hinata sometimes, Sasuke (even when I really don't care about Sasuke I don't relate his character with NS only when I wish him to live for Sakura to pursue a romantic relationship with Naruto while Sasuke being alive and good.
To be honest I always ignore the ANS fans and call them liars, biased and butthurt, but now with chapter 601 and reading some comments they really makes me feel very sad, if the comment were about her dying to give the war more meaning I be hurt but fine, but wanting her dead to improve Sakura's character and to better NS chances is just sad really sad, honestly deep down in my heart I cannot believe I reading this type of comments.

I don't agree with this thinking at all.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I agree with this it reminds me of what some ANS said about some of our fans, they needing to see some characters dead to have a better chance, like Hinata sometimes, Sasuke (even when I really don't care about Sasuke I don't relate his character with NS only when I wish him to live for Sakura to pursue a romantic relationship with Naruto while Sasuke being alive and good.
To be honest I always ignore the ANS fans and call them liars, biased and butthurt, but now with chapter 601 and reading some comments they really makes me feel very sad, if the comment were about her dying to give the war more meaning I be hurt but fine, but wanting her dead to improve Sakura's character and to better NS chances is just sad really sad, honestly deep down in my heart I cannot believe I reading this type of comments.

I don't agree with this thinking at all.

We don't need a death of a character that is in this pairing war. It's only a shortcut.

Anyway, about this new fiasco that is Tsunade. All I can say whatever happens, happen. There's nothing to do to change the course of the story. You can't change the path that the journey is taken. There are multiple roads for development for Naruto, Sakura, and/or NS, and perhaps the death of Tsunade is the road that's being taken. There are already developments for them that they don't need another death to give you the idea that NS is possible and likely the endgame. It's clear enough. You know the sad thing is that it's obviously going to involve Naruto and Sakura, not Hinata at the slightest. That's one thing they should fear. Remember, Sakura already knows Tsunade and Naruto are close, especially when he shown his worries for Tsunade while she was asleep. Both of them will be heavily effected by this. I don't know if this is going to happen, but be prepare for anything. A new storm could be on the horizon. It will hit it or miss it.