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#401 ahmed

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 12 2010, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after read this page and the before page who not read it
there alot of hints that naruto and sakura will end up together and it is like impossible that my naruto end with hinata and the reason is written before (kishi dont make an develpments with other and ksihi make them with us very rarely and the last page in chapter 489 is certain that no change even a bit between them and naruto love sakura )


is there any Impediment that could make naruto will not end up with sakura?
i think no

(about sasuke i think it easy to will be resolve after naruto will tell sakura about the bench scene she will forget every thing about sasuke even now i believe that sakura really love naruto and look to sasuke as afriend after he try to kill her 2 times and after sasuke go with madara sakura say"''thank you naruto...............i dosent give up on see team 7 lughing again"'
she dosen't say back of sasuke like she alaws sayes and about her crying it was from the chapter before in the last page when she said""naruto you are......."" but i dont have and think about what she would have to say ,she doesn't coplete the words .and sasuke is care even a little about her.

any one agree with me?
what do you think abou waht i wrote here?


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Edited by ahmed, 12 June 2010 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:14 PM

Just more proof that no one can truly trust Sasuke; all his "friends" are just his puppets to be used and disposed of when no longer needed, same as how he feels for Naruto & Sakura - of course we all saw how he didn't hesitate to kill Sakura.

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (Derock @ Jun 12 2010, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is until she recently became a hostage during the Danzo fight and was used as a "sacrifice".


Definitely, but she was the only girl he ever showed any kind of actual attraction to. I think Kishimoto had that development to show how Sasuke rejects every chance to divert to a more positive path, he chooses hatred and revenge every time. It also shows how people who head down a wrong path often have many second chances, but once they get to the point of no return there are no more second chances that they can choose. They can only be saved by an outside force's harsh punishment imposed on them. If Sasuke survives at all, he will be brought crashing down with his arrogance about his clan completely crushed. If he survives, I think my old fanfiction guess about him ultimately rejecting the Uchiha clan- even renouncing the surname, might come true. It's the source of his descent into darkness and his arrogance, so to survive I think he'll have to jettison all but his biological tie and his memories- but viewed through the lens of sorrow and regret rather hatred and arrogance.
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 12 2010, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely, but she was the only girl he ever showed any kind of actual attraction to. I think Kishimoto had that development to show how Sasuke rejects every chance to divert to a more positive path, he chooses hatred and revenge every time. It also shows how people who head down a wrong path often have many second chances, but once they get to the point of no return there are no more second chances that they can choose. They can only be saved by an outside force's harsh punishment imposed on them. If Sasuke survives at all, he will be brought crashing down with his arrogance about his clan completely crushed. If he survives, I think my old fanfiction guess about him ultimately rejecting the Uchiha clan- even renouncing the surname, might come true. It's the source of his descent into darkness and his arrogance, so to survive I think he'll have to jettison all but his biological tie and his memories- but viewed through the lens of sorrow and regret rather hatred and arrogance.


thats pretty much it. I allreayd brought this up in another topic how Karin was used to showcase Sasukes fall into further darkness. her stabbing was pretty well the ultimnate betrayal. the one person hes been shown to care for, and been shown to have serious development with character wise.

and he nearly kills her. it was no wonder that he attacked Sakura so easilly.

He probably will reject the past and recreate a new Uchiha with a new name upon his redemption.
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:16 PM

Yes I agree that Sasuke will be save from the darkness otherwise Naruto's efforts will be for nothing and there won't be a point to the series at all if the main theme of the manga is about bonds.
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Posted 12 June 2010 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 12 2010, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely, but she was the only girl he ever showed any kind of actual attraction to. I think Kishimoto had that development to show how Sasuke rejects every chance to divert to a more positive path, he chooses hatred and revenge every time. It also shows how people who head down a wrong path often have many second chances, but once they get to the point of no return there are no more second chances that they can choose. They can only be saved by an outside force's harsh punishment imposed on them. If Sasuke survives at all, he will be brought crashing down with his arrogance about his clan completely crushed. If he survives, I think my old fanfiction guess about him ultimately rejecting the Uchiha clan- even renouncing the surname, might come true. It's the source of his descent into darkness and his arrogance, so to survive I think he'll have to jettison all but his biological tie and his memories- but viewed through the lens of sorrow and regret rather hatred and arrogance.



QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jun 12 2010, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats pretty much it. I allreayd brought this up in another topic how Karin was used to showcase Sasukes fall into further darkness. her stabbing was pretty well the ultimnate betrayal. the one person hes been shown to care for, and been shown to have serious development with character wise.

and he nearly kills her. it was no wonder that he attacked Sakura so easilly.

He probably will reject the past and recreate a new Uchiha with a new name upon his redemption.


I don't think he'll survive. Sasuke is going to be killed either way. All five great nations are all out to get him - he attacked all the Kages and killed Danzo; and lets not forget he chopped off the Raikages arm. Karin was just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come, he's going to go after the only person who was willing to save him no matter everyone said [Not exactly counting Sakura because she tried to "free him from the dark" with a different approach] - it wasn't until Sasuke nearly killed Sakura that Naruto gave up on saving him; now the tables have turned and Sasuke is going after Naruto. Oh, all the drama le gasp!

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 10:08 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 12 2010, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think he'll survive. Sasuke is going to be killed either way. All five great nations are all out to get him - he attacked all the Kages and killed Danzo; and lets not forget he chopped off the Raikages arm. Karin was just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come, he's going to go after the only person who was willing to save him no matter everyone said [Not exactly counting Sakura because she tried to "free him from the dark" with a different approach] - it wasn't until Sasuke nearly killed Sakura that Naruto gave up on saving him; now the tables have turned and Sasuke is going after Naruto. Oh, all the drama le gasp!


I think he will be survive.as kishi said in the interview 2009 ""naruto and suske will fight each other if these happen it will be in the end of the manga"" . so i think naruto will fight him as kishi said and after the fight they will talk to each other and then he will back to the village because it will be in the end of the manga as kishi said.
and dont forget when naruto met itachi and itachi said to naruto ""what would you doing if your borther,sasuke,is attack the village""and naruto answered""no way, i will back him and i will not kill him ""and itachi after that smiled good smile and give him part of his power (that power i think it will be activated when sasuke will fight naruto ,i think it is power to resistance somthing like the amtres).
after alll that i think he will be survive and back to konoha after fighting naruto in the end of the manga


i hope any one give his opnion in what wrote before in the frist of the page
(is there any Impediment that could make naruto will not end up with sakura?)

Edited by ahmed, 12 June 2010 - 10:10 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2010 - 12:23 AM

no real impediment aside from either of the two dying, and even then wed end up with a confession between them.

as of now theyre pretty well on a solid road to being canon.
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:39 AM

I'm certain that Kishi will end the manga before the end of the year so it will eventually be over before getting to ch 600. If things keep up the way they are going no doubt it will end soon.
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:57 AM

I just have to ask, why do people want to see Naruto die and make Sasuke hokage at the end of the manga?
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I just have to ask, why do people want to see Naruto die and make Sasuke hokage at the end of the manga?

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Jun 12 2010, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just have to ask, why do people want to see Naruto die and make Sasuke hokage at the end of the manga?


Dear God is that what they're saying now??? err.gif let's look this from a realistic point of view. Sasuke despises Konoha and wants to kill everyone in the village including his former teammates, now ask yourself would he want to become Hokage of the same village he despises??? confused.gif

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 02:44 AM

At this point I don't know if Sasuke can be saved at all, from the recent chapters he's gone the way of the dodo, he's completely nuts to the point where the squirrels are after him, I just don't know if Naruto will be able to save him from his darkness. I think this quote goes good for him: "You can't save those who don't want to be saved". Then again Naruto is unpredictable and he might be able to bring Sasuke back to his senses with a huge b*tch slap. tongue.gif

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 03:24 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 12 2010, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dear God is that what they're saying now??? err.gif let's look this from a realistic point of view. Sasuke despises Konoha and wants to kill everyone in the village including his former teammates, now ask yourself would he want to become Hokage of the same village he despises??? confused.gif
And the thing is, the ones that say it are latinamericans and a friend of mine (just the Naruto dies part). No he would just destroy the village.


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Posted 13 June 2010 - 04:26 PM

ther was somthing i was want to debate about it
i believe that sakura love naruto

but if she was love him :1- why in chapter 458 when sai tell sakura that naruto love her she cry? (i think that all naruto is do with sakura is tell that) (it was obviously that he is love her , so why se cry?

2-in chapter 459 she say the fool is in love with men (she says the fool not naruto)

these 2 things i think it is doubt that sakura love naruto sad.gif sad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

what every one think about it?

Edited by ahmed, 13 June 2010 - 04:28 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2010 - 04:48 PM

^ Firstly, I had some problems understanding what you stated, but I understood in an end happy.gif

Secondly, after Sai told Sakura that Naruto loves her, she became self-conscious, (I can only think that she asked herself: Why haven't I seen this before?) and she remembered how they both grew together and she seen his proofs of love, yet she never has seen his true intentions.

At the second part, only Kishimoto knows what was in Sakura's head. I think that she already thought about her plan and how she was going to 'use his feelings' (in chapter 469, she really uses his feelings, but only to know that he is safe, thus protecting him). Also, I think (And it might be bad fanfiction but it is totally plausible) that she thinks she is unworthy of his love(though I am skeptical about this one because she didn't had any flashbacks when she hit him or something). As it is, I don't know how to think about the 'The fool's in love with me'.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:12 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 13 2010, 01:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm certain that Kishi will end the manga before the end of the year so it will eventually be over before getting to ch 600. If things keep up the way they are going no doubt it will end soon.


I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. There is still more going on, remember the Zombies, and Kisame? And there's still what's going to happen to Bee. Figuring out Kabutomaru and what happens to them - and a lot of unanswered questions.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 12 2010, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm certain that Kishi will end the manga before the end of the year so it will eventually be over before getting to ch 600. If things keep up the way they are going no doubt it will end soon.


Well we just don't know Graven-kun, Kishi's pacing is unpredictable and depending on how big he wants this 4th Ninja War to be.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:39 PM

I highly doubt Sakura was planning in using Naruto as a tool to bring Sasuke if that's what you mean by saying" using his feelings" thats giving the idea for a very angsty fan fiction story. Sakura clearly told Naruto when he failed to bring back Sasuke that next time we'll do it together not I'm counting on you next time which is the opposite meaning that she's going to let him go after Sasuke while she stands on the side lines doing nothing (although that's what Kishi has done with her character lately dry.gif ).

Ever since part 1 Sakura has been feeling subconsious feelings for Naruto little by little those feelings have been growing slowly (like a cherry blossom tree). It's not until Naruto makes the famous POL that Sakura's subconcious feelings for him grew even more. By the beginning of part 2 Kishi was obviously showing it that she felt attracted towards Naruto (ch 245 Sakura asking him if she looks more like a woman blushing at him and showing him her body so he looks at it in a sexually way if you haven't notice check the chapter). Check her profile page from the third data book Kishi is giving more ideas of Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

However I think Sakura didn't realized how much Naruto loves her she knew he likes her, but not in a serious way because she always thought of him as annoying whenever he asked her out. She wasn't subconcious or unaware of how strong his feelings for her were until 458. When Sai told her that Naruto loves her it finally hit her hard (you should check the chapter again if you haven't noticed the snitch mark on Sakura's forehead on the pannel where Sai is telling her that Naruto loves her, that snitcht mark means a reaction or realization). Once she realized the truth of how much Naruto loves her she obviously cry feeling very guilty remembering the POL he did it for her to mainly bring back Sasuke for her because he knows that she loves him. She finally finds out how much he was suffering because of his unacquire feelings for her and the burden he has been carrying on the promise for so long.

Watching her cry really shows how much she loves him because you can see it clearly how much she was suffering to find out that all this time Naruto love her for real and he has been carrying the burden of the promise in order to make her happy (and Sakura knew it was her fault he's been suffering not just the promise but for not accepting his feelings in addition she was unaware of how deep they were like I have previously mentioned). Kishi show us again how much Sakura loves Naruto when she quickly comes to the conclusion to talk to him no she's not going to stand here and let him continue to suffer because of the promise along with the reality that Sasuke was a wanted criminal and there was no salvation for him because everyone from the rookies have come to the decision to kill him.

She mades up her mind and she knew what to do. When she left Konoha Sakura had three objectives a) protect Naruto from Sasuke, b) lift the burden of the promise from him (confessing her loves she thought it was the best and most affective way to do it and c) kill Sasuke by her own hands. If you read those objectives it's clearly telling us that Sakura was doing everything for NARUTO'S SAFETY and well being there is no protecting Sasuke or confessing her love for him (she acted completely different from the Sakura from part 1). Watching her behavior change, her personality change and gaining new strong feelings for her teammate Kishi is showing us how much Sakura loves Naruto. That she has fallen in love with him for real (it's not fan girl crush compare to what she used to feel for Sasuke).

There is one problem with Sakura which I believe Kishi will finally solve it (I completely agree with catsi and ciardha on this one) in future chapters. She still has some feelings for Sasuke but it's not the present Sasuke who wants to kill everyone in Konoha, but rather the Sasuke who complimented her forehead back at part 1 on the bench scene from chapter 3. That's right she still has feelings for that Sasuke who is nothing but an illusion (an illusion that Naruto created when he transformed into Sasuke). With the release of 498 I have come to believe that Kishi is planning to solve the bench scene with Kushina's speech I believe Naruto will finally gain some confidence in his love life and he will finally take matters into his own hands. He might tell Sakura the truth that he was the one who transformed into Sasuke and complimented her forehead. If this happens we will finally see who Sakura really loves.

Edited by Gravenimage, 13 June 2010 - 05:46 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 13 2010, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I highly doubt Sakura was planning in using Naruto as a tool to bring Sasuke if that's what you mean by saying" using his feelings" thats giving the idea for a very angsty fan fiction story. Sakura clearly told Naruto when he failed to bring back Sasuke that next time we'll do it together not I'm counting on you next time which is the opposite meaning that she's going to let him go after Sasuke while she stands on the side lines doing nothing (although that's what Kishi has done with her character lately dry.gif ).

Ever since part 1 Sakura has been feeling subconsious feelings for Naruto little by little those feelings have been growing slowly (like a cherry blossom tree). It's not until Naruto makes the famous POL that Sakura's subconcious feelings for him grew even more. By the beginning of part 2 Kishi was obviously showing it that she felt attracted towards Naruto (ch 245 Sakura asking him if she looks more like a woman blushing at him and showing him her body so he looks at it in a sexually way if you haven't notice check the chapter). Check her profile page from the third data book Kishi is giving more ideas of Sakura's feelings for Naruto.

However I think Sakura didn't realized how much Naruto loves her she knew he likes her, but not in a serious way because she always thought of him as annoying whenever he asked her out. She wasn't subconcious or unaware of how strong his feelings for her were until 458. When Sai told her that Naruto loves her it finally hit her hard (you should check the chapter again if you haven't noticed the snitch mark on Sakura's forehead on the pannel where Sai is telling her that Naruto loves her, that snitcht mark means a reaction or realization). Once she realized the truth of how much Naruto loves her she obviously cry feeling very guilty remembering the POL he did it for her to mainly bring back Sasuke for her because he knows that she loves him. She finally finds out how much he was suffering because of his unacquire feelings for her and the burden he has been carrying on the promise for so long.

Watching her cry really shows how much she loves him because you can see it clearly how much she was suffering to find out that all this time Naruto love her for real and he has been carrying the burden of the promise in order to make her happy (and Sakura knew it was her fault he's been suffering not just the promise but for not accepting his feelings in addition she was unaware of how deep they were like I have previously mentioned). Kishi show us again how much Sakura loves Naruto when she quickly comes to the conclusion to talk to him no she's not going to stand here and let him continue to suffer because of the promise along with the reality that Sasuke was a wanted criminal and there was no salvation for him because everyone from the rookies have come to the decision to kill him.

She mades up her mind and she knew what to do. When she left Konoha Sakura had three objectives a) protect Naruto from Sasuke, b) lift the burden of the promise from him (confessing her loves she thought it was the best and most affective way to do it and c) kill Sasuke by her own hands. If you read those objectives it's clearly telling us that Sakura was doing everything for NARUTO'S SAFETY and well being there is no protecting Sasuke or confessing her love for him (she acted completely different from the Sakura from part 1). Watching her behavior change, her personality change and gaining new strong feelings for her teammate Kishi is showing us how much Sakura loves Naruto. That she has fallen in love with him for real (it's not fan girl crush compare to what she used to feel for Sasuke).

There is one problem with Sakura which I believe Kishi will finally solve it (I completely agree with catsi and ciardha on this one) in future chapters. She still has some feelings for Sasuke but it's not the present Sasuke who wants to kill everyone in Konoha, but rather the Sasuke who complimented her forehead back at part 1 on the bench scene from chapter 3. That's right she still has feelings for that Sasuke who is nothing but an illusion (an illusion that Naruto created when he transformed into Sasuke). With the release of 498 I have come to believe that Kishi is planning to solve the bench scene with Kushina's speech I believe Naruto will finally gain some confidence in his love life and he will finally take matters into his own hands. He might tell Sakura the truth that he was the one who transformed into Sasuke and complimented her forehead. If this happens we will finally see who Sakura really loves.


very nice words
your reply amazing me
i agree with you completely

Edited by ahmed, 04 July 2010 - 11:40 PM.





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