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[Shadow1275]

I think it's too soon to say he's 100% good. More like put it aside your feelings/grudges and take care of another threat. That's how I feel. I'll say I will give one volume chance for me to see where is this truly going.

I feel like the next volume is going to be Sakura Tsunade. As for Sasuke something just didn't feel right which is why I agree that he is not 100%. Also, when he makes his decision to fight Madara all of those panels are about Itachi. None of Naruto or Sakura. Which makes me think that if Sasuke does get a pairing, its more likely to be ItachixSasuke then SasuxSaku as gross as that sounds. Because it looks like Itachi is still Sasuke's focus.

[Branden]

Well its sort of two things:

Some people are worried that because Sasuke has turned good Sakura will jump right back into his arms. Ruining her character.

Most ppl are pissed off at Kishi for pulling what they consider an ass-pull move by building up Sasuke as being crazy evil and then making him good without Naruto being involved. Also the fact that Orochimaru is joining them and Karin just forgave Sasuke for stabbing her in the chest.

Personally, I don't think this really changes the pairings at all and defs doesn't affect NaruxSaku. Though I do think that Kishi did pull a real ass-pull move by redeeming Sasuke already and then Orochimaru in one chapter. There is probably going to be some sort of Twist.

how is it an asspull? I think most of us already knew that something like this was going to happen after him and Itachi met up a second time. Sasuke was asking questions and Itachi gave him the truth of what happened. Sasuke was very confused and has been looking for answers ever since. quite frankly, given that he was already on the path of evil, it was very predictable that he make a good decision after having so many questions about his choice. quite frankly if Sasuke had decided to destroy the village even after his discussion with Itachi THEN it would have ruined his development.


Also I don't see why anyone should care that Karin is being a stupid fangirl, she's not a very important character. also they aren't redeemed, yet. Also even if Sakura jumped into Sasuke's arms, Sasuke barely knows her, hasn't had any contact with her for 3 years (other than a murder attempt here or there) and treated her horribly before then. Why would he suddenly have romantic feelings for Sakura?

*sigh*

I think I know what to do. BRB changing my signature

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't think that Kishimoto just got tired of Manga and wants only to finsh it as soon as possible... god, it would be stupid since he himself admitted in the interview for promoting RTN in last summer that he thought to finish the manga within one and half year but it need more time... This doesn't just sounds to me that he's hurry, at least I hope so unless the dude have a bipolar disturb.

Well the reason the last half felt rushed was the fact the chapter limitation (17 pages?) and the last chapter of a volume. The real question is Sasuke's turn. Is he truly good in order to end the manga asap? Or is he only doing one good deed because a more sinister man is trying to change the world for his own selfish need? That's my concern at the moment. I mean I like the chapter, but I truly hope the later action doesn't really say that he's good without Naruto needed. Otherwise, I would hate this chapter.

[Phantom_999]

I'll be honest. I was disappointed. Sasuke redeemed all out of the blue? Naruto wasn't the one to do it? ALL WRONG I tell you!!!!!!!! That said though, I don't necessarily stay sour about this stuff so I'll just move on and continue. If any one is still interested let's talk about something else.

Edited by Phantom_999, 10 April 2013 - 11:42 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I feel like the next volume is going to be Sakura Tsunade. As for Sasuke something just didn't feel right which is why I agree that he is not 100%. Also, when he makes his decision to fight Madara all of those panels are about Itachi. None of Naruto or Sakura. Which makes me think that if Sasuke does get a pairing, its more likely to be ItachixSasuke then SasuxSaku as gross as that sounds. Because it looks like Itachi is still Sasuke's focus.

Actually, I think this could be a good closure for Itachi and Sasuke as he is actually doing something right for once and not going against Itachi. Does that mean he's solidify good? No, not really, especially how vague it is. This is about village's focus and then family focus may come on when confronting Naruto. I'm still sold that Naruto vs. Sasuke will happen. It's only matter of question of what is at stake.

how is it an asspull? I think most of us already knew that something like this was going to happen after him and Itachi met up a second time. Sasuke was asking questions and Itachi gave him the truth of what happened. Sasuke was very confused and has been looking for answers ever since. quite frankly, given that he was already on the path of evil, it was very predictable that he make a good decision after having so many questions about his choice. quite frankly if Sasuke had decided to destroy the village even after his discussion with Itachi THEN it would have ruined his development.


Also I don't see why anyone should care that Karin is being a stupid fangirl, she's not a very important character. also they aren't redeemed, yet. Also even if Sakura jumped into Sasuke's arms, Sasuke barely knows her, hasn't had any contact with her for 3 years (other than a murder attempt here or there) and treated her horribly before then. Why would he suddenly have romantic feelings for Sakura?

*sigh*

I think I know what to do. BRB changing my signature

Lol I can't wait to see your signature. I understand how you feel.

[Chucky-kun]

I just LOVE how people assume that people are supposedly mad or jumping ship because of kitten that has nothing to do with why some folks ARE mad. I was pissed because of how fast Kishimoto made Sasuke decide to supposedly help Konoha after a little history lesson. I was mad at how sexist Kishi was being with the return of Karin hugging all up on Sasuke like nothing happened. Disgusting is the word that describes that crap. Did I say I was gonna drop the manga here?? NO. I said that if SAKURA gets some BS development REVOLVING around Sasuke, or she only becomes relevant with Sasuke's arrival, then I'll LIKELY be done with this because it's at this point kittening pathetic. I think it was Sushi who brought something up about understanding why people question Sakura as a heroine, and as a character. I can actually understand why some would call her pathetic. I love her at this point mainly because of her personality.

Hopefully Kishi doesn't kitten her over because for too long, she's been treated like pairing fodder, and it's ridiculous. Now we have to wait a week for what? He's probably not even gonna go back to the battle. I hope he does though.

Anyway, nice to see you James, and very nice post! LOL

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[Branden]

Lol I can't wait to see your signature. I understand how you feel.

l couldn't think of anything creative so my first reaction was to do exactly what I did in the 615 chaos. give people a word of wisdom. Only this time It's on there twice. Once for 615, once for 627

[六道仙人]

yeah, there's still a possibility of a twist from Sasuke. But it would be odd since he said that all that what his brother did for Konoha won't be in vain...

Could he have lied about that because he was afraid of Hashirama's reaction? Possible but I don't believe so. Even if Hashirama is the most powerful shinobi of all times, he would face: Tobirama,Hiruzen,Minato,Sasuke,Orochimaru,Suigetsu,Juugo. :/

Edited by 六道仙人, 10 April 2013 - 11:48 PM.

[StriderC]

page 7, post 127

LOL I'm speaking for myself. Not everyone was talking of jumping ship. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm never gonna jump ship. I can't force myself to love a couple as much as I love NS, but I can deal with a couple not happening. Acceptance and love are completely different.

[TouKen4Life3g]

l couldn't think of anything creative so my first reaction was to do exactly what I did in the 615 chaos. give people a word of wisdom. Only this time It's on there twice. Once for 615, once for 627

Lol. Ok. Well, better hope it doesn't increase.

yeah, there's still a possibility of a twist from Sasuke. But it would be odd since he said that all that what his brother did for Konoha won't be in vain...

Could he have lied about that because he was afraid of Hashirama's reaction? Possible but I don't believe so. Even if Hashirama is the most powerful shinobi of all times, he would face: Tobirama,Hiruzen,Minato,Sasuke,Orochimaru,Suigetsu,Juugo. :/

I am not sold that he's 100% good yet. I need to see where he stands. Right now, it's about him going against someone who is against Itachi's sacrifice. I feel that this is the closure to all the actions that Itachi done for Sasuke and the village. If I'm right about that and him not being 100%, then I think I can pass this chapter with no worries at all.

[Nate River]

I think it's pretty clear what it means based on the reaction of the 4 kage. Sasuke plans to save the village. They plan to help him. There really is no room for interpretation there.

Obito thinks he's saving the world. I don't think it outside the relm of possibility ultimately decides to do something in furtherance of that objective that Naruto finds problematic. In any case, unless Kishimoto is a hurry to end this, I don't think he's so blind as to so openly rob Naruto of purpose. I thought the entire point to these flashbacks was to foreshadow something similar happening to Naruto and Sasuke.

The clash is gone if Sasuke no longer desires to destroy the village. Outside of that the only reason for them to fight would be pride. And that means a fight with no real stakes. Which means a fight with no drama.

I think given the circumstances and ultimate conclusion, I thought the odds of Sasuke staying on that by the end of this was near zero. Otherwise, why bother wasting nearly six chapters on this? He was already heading that way after Itachi because he cared enough to even bother with this expedition at all.

And Karin's forgiveness of Sasuke's TBH says alot for SS. Because if Kishimoto thinks it's fine to have Karin forgive him with a simple "I'm sorry" then Kishi probably sees no problem with Sakura jumping all over the dude when he returns. *sigh*

I expected Karin's forgiveness. Nothing about that part is a shock. She went running for him after all. I just didn't expect the writing of it to be this shoddy. But why does this chapter suddenly make it more likely he will do that? It's long been clear Naruto would forgive him and that the rest would follow. This chapter does nothing to change the playing field. Since I think Sakura forgiving him was likely, I suppose this means he is more willing to engage in shoddy writing to make it happen, but if forgiving his is somehow part of the trigger event to SS then I'd say he's past that point long ago and SS is a matter of time. Since I don't think her forgiving him necessarily has any bearing on her dating him then it I think this chapter changes nothing.

that said, I still say Karin is the best female for Sasuke. At least she's loved him during his darkest times. She loves him for who he is as opposed to Sakura who loves who he was.

I still think SK is a terrible pairing. I'd rather see SS.

[六道仙人]

Lol. Ok. Well, better hope it doesn't increase.


I am not sold that he's 100% good yet. I need to see where he stands. Right now, it's about him going against someone who is against Itachi's sacrifice. I feel that this is the closure to all the actions that Itachi done for Sasuke and the village. If I'm right about that and him not being 100%, then I think I can pass this chapter with no worries at all.

Imho, the real twist about Sasuke here would be the fact that Sasuke could challenge Naruto about the title of Hokage...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Imho, the real twist about Sasuke here would be the fact that Sasuke could challenge Naruto about the title of Hokage...

It could happen. I don't know. Anything is up for grabs at the moment. I feel that there will be something more to it and I think Sasuke still needs to feel challenge to himself. Like he will still have some problems, even though he won't go all bad. I feel Naruto will cleansed all the darkness within him and officially be like his brother.

[Phantom_999]

Fair warning. The admins and mods are watching so everyone chill and refrain from bashing and insulting. and I don't mean that there is much if any bashing going on now, just keep it from needing intervention.

Edited by Phantom_999, 11 April 2013 - 02:53 AM.

[Branden]

I'm sad... I'm so sad . I read this chapter before I went to school and I loved it. I couldn't wait to talk to you guys about it. It's such a shame that so many people are freaking out. Guys there's nothing wrong here. This chapter felt very natural and was foreshadowed already. Naruto as a manga is fine and Kishi knows what he's doing. Also NaruSaku wasn't affected by this chapter AT ALL .
please calm down

[StriderC]

Imho, the real twist about Sasuke here would be the fact that Sasuke could challenge Naruto about the title of Hokage...

In which Naruto will bow down and give him the title because at this point, Sasuke DESERVES it.

Sasuke gets multiple wives, the hokage position, and a new Uchiha Clan will be born. LMAO.

In the last chapter, the last panel will say, "Sasuke" showing us that all along, this was hiSTORY. LMAO

[Chucky-kun]

Fair warning. The admins are watching so everyone chill and refrain from bashing and insulting. and I don't mean that it is happening now, just keep it from needing intervention.

The only bashing thats been going on this thread is Kishi-bashing

[jworks]

I don't think Sasuke's change of heart is sudden at all. Maybe what people are sensing is that it is incredibly anti-climatic? When he learned the truth from Madara it made him question all his motives, then later down the road he learns more and then when he gets to talk to dead Itachi he becomes that much more skeptical of his original plan and truly wonders if he has chosen the wrong path, then he goes and gets Oro to talk to the Hokages and get to the bottom of everything. So at this point he was already more in a neutral territory, and needed the final story from the first to make his decision.

I also have to say Karin's appearance made me cringe. Not a pairing issue, I've just never liked her at all.

[Chucky-kun]

I don't think Sasuke's change of heart is sudden at all. Maybe what people are sensing is that it is incredibly anti-climatic? When he learned the truth from Madara it made him question all his motives, then later down the road he learns more and then when he gets to talk to dead Itachi he becomes that much more skeptical of his original plan and truly wonders if he has chosen the wrong path, then he goes and gets Oro to talk to the Hokages and get to the bottom of everything. So at this point he was already more in a neutral territory, and needed the final story from the first to make his decision.

I also have to say Karin's appearance made me cringe. Not a pairing issue, I've just never liked her at all.

Maybe this is one of those rare occurrences where the anime might actually be good for this scene.

[Don-kun]

how is it an asspull? I think most of us already knew that something like this was going to happen after him and Itachi met up a second time. Sasuke was asking questions and Itachi gave him the truth of what happened. Sasuke was very confused and has been looking for answers ever since. quite frankly, given that he was already on the path of evil, it was very predictable that he make a good decision after having so many questions about his choice. quite frankly if Sasuke had decided to destroy the village even after his discussion with Itachi THEN it would have ruined his development.


Also I don't see why anyone should care that Karin is being a stupid fangirl, she's not a very important character. also they aren't redeemed, yet. Also even if Sakura jumped into Sasuke's arms, Sasuke barely knows her, hasn't had any contact with her for 3 years (other than a murder attempt here or there) and treated her horribly before then. Why would he suddenly have romantic feelings for Sakura?

*sigh*

I think I know what to do. BRB changing my signature

This.
I believe many here were expecting instead of speculating, we are not Kishimoto no on knows what this man is thinking.
Anyway I kind of agree with some of the users who believes there is something odd with Sasuke and Orochimaru's behavior and like someone else pointed out, If Sasuke decision was to destroy Konoha and then he somehow proceeds to beat the 4 Kages I would of being Royally piss off. And I'm pretty sure 99% of the forum might be angry.

What leads to this question, if Sasuke refuse and somehow manage to beat the Kages the site will be mad, if Sasuke choose to become good since he only had two choices the site will still gets mad, so what do we really want?

Edited by Don-kun, 11 April 2013 - 12:06 AM.