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[T XD]

I'm just saying that people assumed they met each other for the first time at the hideout, but it's way back in the exam. It's just seem it has more to it but who knows. What I want to know is how Karin's entrance will be with all this stuff going on. It's convenient that she's left out the moment of learning the origin of ninja, especially since Hashirama is about to explain. It makes me wonder what does Kishi has in mind. After all, she was kept alive for a reason.

If she'll make her entrance where they are right now, then two of the possibilities is that she'll make her entrance when Minato will begin to talk or when he finishes. After all, he's married to an Uzumaki, and Karin is related to him in some way XD

Edited by T XD, 09 February 2013 - 01:59 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If she'll make her entrance where they are right now, then two of the possibilities is that she'll make her entrance when Minato will begin to talk or when he finishes. After all, he's married to an Uzumaki, and Karin is related to him in some way XD

Funny that the first and fourth married an Uzumaki. For some reason, I can see that way of bringing up the Uzumaki clan or at least how feisty they can be. That would be amusing to watch. Is Tobirama even married? Just a thought occur to me. I want to know what's the hold up for Karin. Actually, I want to know if the Kages are there to stay.

[T XD]

Funny that the first and fourth married an Uzumaki. For some reason, I can see that way of bringing up the Uzumaki clan or at least how feisty they can be. That would be amusing to watch. Is Tobirama even married? Just a thought occur to me. I want to know what's the hold up for Karin. Actually, I want to know if the Kages are there to stay.

Yeah, it's somewhat probable that they'll bring up the Uzumakis. It's going to be a funny moment if they mention their tsundere wives or something related to them XD

Nothing was mentioned about Tobirama being married, only if it was in the data book which I didn't read about him in it.

I don't think that the Kages are going to be controlled and then disappear whenever Orochimaru pleases. It can't be done. Maybe something will happen or a moment at the end of their interrogation will occur in which they will fulfill something other than just answering Sasuke.

Edited by T XD, 09 February 2013 - 02:07 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, it's somewhat probable that they'll bring up the Uzumakis. It's going to be a funny moment if they mention their tsundere wives or something related to them XD

Nothing was mentioned about Tobirama being married, only if it was in the data book which I didn't read about him in it.

I don't think that the Kages are going to be controlled and then disappear whenever Orochimaru pleases. It can't be done. Maybe something will happen or a moment at the end of their interrogation will occur in which they will fulfill something other than just answering Sasuke.

That would be funny to watch. That's one way to get better insights of Minato's relationship with Kushina, as well as Hashirama. After all, we only know the fact Minato lost to Kushina in every arguments except the last, of course. I hope these Kages continue to amuse me, especially Hashirama. Suigetsu said it best: not the way that I imagined.

Maybe Tobirama could have been married but he's all badass to consider it. He does seem to be very strict or really harsh yet what needs to be done.

As for Kages, maybe Sasuke will be the one that wants them around for backups. That or Orochimaru can suggest Sasuke that if Sasuke wants to accomplish something, he needs a strong army, and they're good enough for him. Time will tell.

[T XD]

That would be funny to watch. That's one way to get better insights of Minato's relationship with Kushina, as well as Hashirama. After all, we only know the fact Minato lost to Kushina in every arguments except the last, of course. I hope these Kages continue to amuse me, especially Hashirama. Suigetsu said it best: not the way that I imagined.

Maybe Tobirama could have been married but he's all badass to consider it. He does seem to be very strict or really harsh yet what needs to be done.

As for Kages, maybe Sasuke will be the one that wants them around for backups. That or Orochimaru can suggest Sasuke that if Sasuke wants to accomplish something, he needs a strong army, and they're good enough for him. Time will tell.

If the Kages troop with Sasuke which with him too there's Suigetsu, Juugo and Karin when she returns, then Naruto and the others are in deep trouble. Though, about Orochimaru, I think he'll probably have something else to do and I feel he got a nasty plan in his mind especially with the Zetsus thing.

The Kages seems that they don't know what Sasuke has done from his vicious actions. Seems weird that they're answering like he pleases. I wonder if they'll know of Sasuke other than just that he's an Uchiha, and wants some answers about his brother and other stuff.

Edited by T XD, 09 February 2013 - 02:37 PM.

[六道仙人]

Seeing Tobirama's character from this chapter, I wouldn't be surprised that he wasn't married. After all, we know nothing about his relatives... And since that he's sketched out like an old version Samurai, i feel like his motto was "The ends justify the means"

After all he lived in an era anguished from wars... I believe that his reign didn't last so long at the end... Maybe he just gave everything for Konoha (after all the Konoha of today we all know, like accademy ninja, the levels genin/chuunin/jonin/anbu, the missions, builded a hospital, etc, is due to him. He really MODERNIZED Konoha) and he didn't have enough time to know a woman LOL

Edited by 六道仙人, 09 February 2013 - 02:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If the Kages troop with Sasuke which with him too there's Suigetsu, Juugo and Karin when she returns, then Naruto and the others are in deep trouble. Though, about Orochimaru, I think he'll probably have something else to do and I feel he got a nasty plan in his mind especially with the Zetsus thing.

The Kages seems that they don't know what Sasuke has done from his vicious actions. Seems weird that they're answering like he pleases. I wonder if they'll know of Sasuke other than just that he's an Uchiha, and wants some answers about his brother and other stuff.

Yeah, well let's see how the next chapter will go. It will become more clear to see where is this heading.

[Nate River]

Sorry, I'm a little confused with the bolded. You're saying that I'm telling something illegitimate? I'm not following.

Not wanting Sasuke to have a family is the moral line you impose on him, but that's your own. Kishimoto might not agree with you on it, he could, but I'm not sure if that's what he wants given how he wants us to feel sorry for Sasuke.

The point is the moral line is the one the author establishes. It's ok for you to disagree with the decision but at least I hope you understand why such a decision is made in the first place. It's not that the author doesn't care about the implications it can have on the audience, it's that the author might just think that given the fictional nature of the work that it might not be judged in the same level as it would in real life.

You called it an "excuse" when I said I did not like SK because of him nearly killing her. Labeling something an "excuse" by it's very nature tends to delegitimatize it. That's usually the purpose of calling it an excuse.

I know why he did what he did. I do not disagree with what took place, but I would dislike it if SK got together later on precisely because of that scene. And also because I just don't like Team Not Seven. I keep using that moniker precisely because I hate them. All three of them. I've explained at length in other threads why that is.

Who said I did not want Sasuke to have a family? You are reading things that are not there. I do not want him to start one with KARIN. I don't have an inherent problem with him getting together with those he does not have THAT kind of baggage with. At that point it would depend on the how and why as to whether I cared or not.

As to that being me imposing a moral line on him? Yeah, I know it is. I'm not so oblivious that I cannot see that there is a good chance he will do things I will not like. I do not deny the possibility of SK, as I said. I just think the pairing sucks.

[Codus N]

A really good friend, Kanae (Thank you ) helped me and provide me this:
"Are you gonna write the battle of each member of Hebi?
Kishi : Actually I didn't want to. But Shueisha ordered me to do with something about them."

That was before Killerbee, back at the end of 2009. Then you've got 2010's Jump Festa where he does mention Taka quite a bit, and clearly states that what happens in the Sasuke vs Danzou fight would not only determine the course of Sasuke's character, but also Taka's - which shows he already had a plan for them.

So, give or take.

Ah, that makes better sense. Although, I think there's other translations floating around that essentially says Team Taka wasn't in Kishi's original plans. dunno which one is true, though.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ah, that makes better sense. Although, I think there's other translations floating around that essentially says Team Taka wasn't in Kishi's original plans. dunno which one is true, though.

Meh, don't sweat it. Just enjoy what's going on until he says something new from himself.

[sushi.]

I think SK will be left open to interpertation. It's sweet and classic to do that to sideplots.

[MangaReader]

And that's what bothering me. This has nothing to do with pairing until further notice, but you got to wonder, what good does Karin being an Uzumaki can accomplish. Why have her out of scene from the current situation? If you ask me, minus Sasuke, of course, it does seem Karin is the most important one out of the team. I mean when Sasuke found out she's an Uzumaki, he questioned Kabuto as if he's asking for us. Basically, it's a shocking reveal for us. You know, I'm surprised that Kishi actually thought through with Karin's flashback. Think about it, why not just have her love Sasuke back at the hideout? Why find the appropriate time as if Kishi has to recap and find the perfect fit. I'm still wondering...

I hope this doesn't mean Sasuke gets the Senju cells he needs to achieve godhood

[T XD]

I hope this doesn't mean Sasuke gets the Senju cells he needs to achieve godhood

No, it doesn't mean that . It's enough with the make up genes that the Uchihas have XD

Any more cells, and they'll be not humans anymore

Edited by T XD, 09 February 2013 - 05:04 PM.

[MangaReader]

No, it doesn't mean that . It's enough with the make up genes that the Uchihas have XD

Any more cells, and they'll be not humans anymore

It would be such a Kishi thing to do though, after all, the Uzamaki clan was close to the Senju clan. And in order for the Uchiha to awaken the the Rinnegan, they need Senju cells.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I hope this doesn't mean Sasuke gets the Senju cells he needs to achieve godhood

I do wonder how Sasuke supposedly match up to Naruto though. He's almost at the peak that no man can touch him. Not yet but soon. It's pretty much given that he's the next Rikudou Sennin and even the tailed beasts said it or left a huge clue that he's the next one.

[MangaReader]

I do wonder how Sasuke supposedly match up to Naruto though. He's almost at the peak that no man can touch him. Not yet but soon. It's pretty much given that he's the next Rikudou Sennin and even the tailed beasts said it or left a huge clue that he's the next one.

Sasuke hax to the max or a cop out of a final battle

[TouKen4Life3g]

Sasuke hax to the max or a cop out of a final battle

Only question is: what is it this time?

[Atheck]

Only question is: what is it this time?

Logically it would have to be Rinnegan since it is the final evolution of the Sharingan. It makes me think if there isn't perhaps another step in the power cycle for Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto did display a combination mode of TK (tailed Kyuubi/Kurama) and SM back when he was confronting Nagato. That could very well be his final power up in the manga if he receives any more. Sage Mode does have some advantages of its own which KM (not FKM) doesn't possess such as enhanced potency of ninjutsu (expanding disintegrating disk for FRS being one example which he hasn't displayed in KM IIRC), super strength, chakra sensing, Frog Katas, ect.

Granted the loss of most of those perks can be compensated for by FKM but it wouldn't hurt to have some extra fire power and it would be symbolical for Naruto that he's finally able to combine all he's been taught together into one extremely powerful moveset. Hell, since Naruto and Kurama are on friendly terms doesn't that mean he could potentially fuse with Ma and Pa? I hope I'm not the only one in thinking that seeing them get to fight at least one more time would be awesome. But then again I can understand why Kishi wouldn't do it since a hypothetical FKSM (Full Kyuubi/Kurama Sage Mode) with Ma and Pa fused for infinite sage chakra and enhancements to all his techniques and stats including possibly the bijuu chakra cloak itself would be horrendously broken even by current Naruto standards. In order to match that Sasuke would have to do something crazy like combine his EMS and potential Rinnegan together to make a path power using EMS Susanoo.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Logically it would have to be Rinnegan since it is the final evolution of the Sharingan. It makes me think if there isn't perhaps another step in the power cycle for Naruto and Sasuke. Naruto did display a combination mode of TK (tailed Kyuubi/Kurama) and SM back when he was confronting Nagato. That could very well be his final power up in the manga if he receives any more. Sage Mode does have some advantages of its own which KM (not FKM) doesn't possess such as enhanced potency of ninjutsu (expanding disintegrating disk for FRS being one example which he hasn't displayed in KM IIRC), super strength, chakra sensing, Frog Katas, ect.

Granted the loss of most of those perks can be compensated for by FKM but it wouldn't hurt to have some extra fire power and it would be symbolical for Naruto that he's finally able to combine all he's been taught together into one extremely powerful moveset. Hell, since Naruto and Kurama are on friendly terms doesn't that mean he could potentially fuse with Ma and Pa? I hope I'm not the only one in thinking that seeing them get to fight at least one more time would be awesome. But then again I can understand why Kishi wouldn't do it since a hypothetical FKSM (Full Kyuubi/Kurama Sage Mode) with Ma and Pa fused for infinite sage chakra and enhancements to all his techniques and stats including possibly the bijuu chakra cloak itself would be horrendously broken even by current Naruto standards. In order to match that Sasuke would have to do something crazy like combine his EMS and potential Rinnegan together to make a path power using EMS Susanoo.

I for one believe Naruto will have the upper hand in the very as in being tittled, the strongest ninja. I think beating Sasuke will have more symbolic than anything. Not only he will defeat his rival and saves him, to his eyes, he will be the top of them all. That's why them fighting each other will have many rewards in the end.

[sushi.]

Only question is: what is it this time?

My theory is that Sasuke will have the Juubi's eye, and Naruto will have the Juubi's body.

The eye is a mix between the Sharingan and the Rinnegan, and I don't want Sasuke to replace the Sharingan with an ordinary Rinnegan. The Juubi's eye makes perfect sense to me.

Edited by sushi., 09 February 2013 - 08:57 PM.