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#401 Chucky-kun

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:43 AM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Dec 20 2012, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know some people probably don't expect this... but, I do for some reason, from what I've seen in Naruto, (fillers, canon, etc) Naruto has no problem yelling at girls to prove his point. He could completely demolish NH in a few words if he blows up on Hinata from always being with him and not taking care of herself or Neji, for example -- and neji died protecting her, and she's still worried about him, per say. I could see him doing that to shake something up in her to make her courageous and independent without always relying on him or protecting him.

And thus ends Hinata's development smile.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And thus ends Hinata's development smile.gif

Really? I thought it'd increase it. (But lower the expectations of NH) She could finally become an independent ninja. Like Sakura. Not the heroine. But just... not naru-obsessed. "Women need to be strong in order to survive." She's not worrying 'bout love in the middle of a war tongue.gif She's kickin' ass.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:46 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 19 2012, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We will know what parts were foreshadowing and what parts were red herring only in the end, so it's possible that they are misdirections. Sasuke's tricky. He is at a delicate point at the moment. He could wake up to realize what mistakes he has made and change his ways (Naruto provides messiac talk and makes a convert of Sasuke). This will mean a complete 180 for him. If Sasuke changes all his ways, is it really so hard to imagine that he will realize that Sakura is a very nice girl after all? Sasuke's a pretty confused and lost boy and supresses a lot of his feelings. SS is convenient for Kishi, especially if Sasuke redeems himself and lives. Sakura provides the happy ending for Sasuke, the possibility of a family. NH is convenient as well, because it makes sure that Naruto gets paired, too, without interfearing with Sasuke's HEA. And I would say, that for Kishi, Sasuke's story will be very important to do right. Maybe more important than development of pairings. (This scenario assumes a lot, obviously.)

Well, if you're looking for the convenience of both Naruto and Sasuke having a girl by the end there's also the chance for Sasuke to end up with Karin while Naruto ends up with Sakura.

By the way what's Sasuke's HEA? What's a HEA?

I'll admit that the contrast of NaruSaku and SasuKarin is appealing to me. To me it's like the light couple and the dark couple. While Sakura is part of Naruto's journey of light, Karin is part of Sasuke's journey of darkness.

Although, the concept of Sasuke having romantic feelings feels a little weird to me. Still, he's capable of being appreciative of feelings given that he thanked Sakura after she tried to convince him to stay in Konoha. So when he's redeemed I'm sure he can be kind, even if he still keeps acting like a jerk most of the time. laugh.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 20 2012, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if you're looking for the convenience of both Naruto and Sasuke having a girl by the end there's also the chance for Sasuke to end up with Karin while Naruto ends up with Sakura.

By the way what's Sasuke's HEA? What's a HEA?

I'll admit that the contrast of NaruSaku and SasuKarin is appealing to me. To me it's like the light couple and the dark couple. While Sakura is part of Naruto's journey of light, Karin is part of Sasuke's journey of darkness.

Although, the concept of Sasuke having romantic feelings feels a little weird to me. Still, he's capable of being appreciative of feelings given that he thanked Sakura after she tried to convince him to stay in Konoha. So when he's redeemed I'm sure he can be kind, even if he still keeps acting like a jerk most of the time. laugh.gif

Speaking of which, im looking forward to when karin and sasuke reunite

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#405 Don-kun

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Dec 19 2012, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know some people probably don't expect this... but, I do for some reason, from what I've seen in Naruto, (fillers, canon, etc) Naruto has no problem yelling at girls to prove his point. He could completely demolish NH in a few words if he blows up on Hinata from always being with him and not taking care of herself or Neji, for example -- and neji died protecting her, and she's still worried about him, per say. I could see him doing that to shake something up in her to make her courageous and independent without always relying on him or protecting him.


I didn't want to sound mean from the start but this is what I really wish would happen, I also believe that Neji died because Hinata just forgot about their combination effort to protect the others and only focus on protecting Naruto when he already asked her not to concern herself with saving him, but since no one addressed it I let it slide.




Also nice to seeing you again Fenris, long time no see. smile.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of which, im looking forward to when karin and sasuke reunite


Sameeeeeeeee. I'm anxious to know how they'd communicate with each other after he tried to kill her.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:56 AM

I don't mean to interrupt but someone else on here mentioned another chapter possibly being released this Saturday. Is that true?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Dec 20 2012, 04:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know some people probably don't expect this... but, I do for some reason, from what I've seen in Naruto, (fillers, canon, etc) Naruto has no problem yelling at girls to prove his point. He could completely demolish NH in a few words if he blows up on Hinata from always being with him and not taking care of herself or Neji, for example -- and neji died protecting her, and she's still worried about him, per say. I could see him doing that to shake something up in her to make her courageous and independent without always relying on him or protecting him.



Wow, I thought about this too... mellow.gif

#409 Don-kun

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:59 AM

Am I the only one who believes Karin will slap Sasuke in his face if they ever meet again, while we have Karin telling him, you jerk how there you try to kill me.

I don't know why but I really picture this happening. laugh.gif




No I will love that to happen Atheck but Japan fans get the release on Saturday I remember Tokio kid saying that while we read the Manga on Wednesday they get to read it Saturday.


By the way Qia Tokio kid also said that 573 was meant to be romantic, sadly that after he skipped so many NS events from the RTN movie I kind of lost my trust on him.

Edited by Don-kun, 20 December 2012 - 04:07 AM.


#410 Poison_In_Your_Coffee

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:03 AM

HEA means Happily Ever After. It's the happy ending.

Karin is certainly another possibility for Sasuke. Thought, she did sort of indicate that his good looks are no longer enough to keep her interested since the incident with piercing lightning and all that. One thing that keeps me hopeful when it comes to SS is that Karin did get over Sasuke (or did she?) when he tried to kill her. Why didn't Sakura? Is Kishi trying to show that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are truly unconditional? Or is he trying to show that Karin is the one for Sasuke since she doesn't take that kind of kitten from him (or does she)? If I were Karin, I wouldn't piss off the man who tried to kill me by slapping him. Sasuke does seem more stable now, so maybe he wouldn't try to kill her for doing that.

Edit. To be more on-topic. I don't think Hinata is going to die in the course of this manga. She has already survived one attack when Pain tried to kill her. And now Neji sacrificed his life to save her (and Naruto). There is no way she will die now that another character has done such a thing for her. Or I will be very, very suprised if she does.

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 20 December 2012 - 04:09 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 20 2012, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEA means Happily Ever After. It's the happy ending.

Karin is certainly another possibility for Sasuke. Thought, she did sort of indicate that his good looks are no longer enough to keep her interested since the incident with piercing lightning and all that. One thing that keeps me hopeful when it comes to SS is that Karin did get over Sasuke (or did she?) when he tried to kill her. Why didn't Sakura? Is Kishi trying to show that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are truly unconditional? Or is he trying to show that Karin is the one for Sasuke since she doesn't take that kind of kitten from him (or does she)? If I were Karin, I wouldn't piss off the man who tried to kill me by slapping him. Sasuke does seem more stable now, so maybe he wouldn't try to kill her for doing that.

The thing is, Sasuke still kind of cared for karin, because with the whole not hitting any vital points thing and Danzou. Sakura and Karin are kinda similar as they were both infatuated with the younger version of sasuke. During that part, both of them flashbacked to the sane version of sasuke. Im counting on the bolded part.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:10 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 19 2012, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEA means Happily Ever After. It's the happy ending.

Karin is certainly another possibility for Sasuke. Thought, she did sort of indicate that his good looks are no longer enough to keep her interested since the incident with piercing lightning and all that. One thing that keeps me hopeful when it comes to SS is that Karin did get over Sasuke (or did she?) when he tried to kill her. Why didn't Sakura? Is Kishi trying to show that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are truly unconditional? Or is he trying to show that Karin is the one for Sasuke since she doesn't take that kind of kitten from him (or does she)? If I were Karin, I wouldn't piss off the man who tried to kill me by slapping him. Sasuke does seem more stable now, so maybe he wouldn't try to kill her for doing that.

Edit. To be more on-topic. I don't think Hinata is going to die in the course of this manga. She has already survived one attack when Pain tried to kill her. And now Neji sacrificed his life to save her (and Naruto). There is no way she will die now that another character has done such a thing for her. Or I will be very, very suprised if she does.


I agree with the Hinata part. She's basically safe tongue.gif. And I honestly think Sakura is too. Team 7 stuff needs to go down in the end.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:22 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is, Sasuke still kind of cared for karin, because with the whole not hitting any vital points thing and Danzou. Sakura and Karin are kinda similar as they were both infatuated with the younger version of sasuke. During that part, both of them flashbacked to the sane version of sasuke. Im counting on the bolded part.

If Sasuke wouldn't try to kill Karin, maybe he also would not try to kill Sakura? Karin's pretty much alive because Sakura happened to come along and distracted Sasuke long enough. Sasuke was really messed-up in that arc. He seems much better now and I do believe he cared for Karin (and for Sakura, as well). But during the Danzou thing, Sasuke was ready to kill Karin to get what he wanted. She was the sacrifice he was willing to make. SasuKarin has the advantage that we don't know exactly what kind of relationship they have had. For all we know, they've been doing all sorts of things together during those 3 years. Also, Karin is Uzumaki and therefore related to the Senjus. If Sasuke and Karin make babies, those babies will unite the Senju-Uchiha families for all eternity.

Hinata I count for totally safe. Sakura pretty safe. Can't see Naruto dying. Kakashi, Sasuke maybe.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:23 AM

QUOTE (Atheck @ Dec 19 2012, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't mean to interrupt but someone else on here mentioned another chapter possibly being released this Saturday. Is that true?



Since it totally glossed over, I'm not sure, but either this chapter was an early scan release and is officially released on Saturday or there IS another chapter being released on Saturday. I dunno.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Dec 20 2012, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is. Well she said after the war she'll stop chasing him, especially since she won't have the time to chase him during the war. But then she says NEXT TIME I'LL BE HOLDING YOUR HAND AND WALKING WITH YOU, which doesn't have to be in a romantic way if we were to stick with previous page, especially after those "...." that was placed there again. It seems as if it was a hard decision for her to make, you know? But she's willing to still protect him and have that friendship with him and walk with him. Maybe Kishi just phrased it that way on purpose? tongue.gif.

Uhh I don't think so. It's still NS sorta, and as long as there's no bashing I think it's fine?


I cannot imagine wanting to hold someone's hand in anything but in a romantic way. She said she would stop chasing him because she would have already have caught up with him. Her reaction to the hug wasn't very telling, but for all we know, it could be brought up in a flashback in the future.

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 20 2012, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HEA means Happily Ever After. It's the happy ending.

Karin is certainly another possibility for Sasuke. Thought, she did sort of indicate that his good looks are no longer enough to keep her interested since the incident with piercing lightning and all that. One thing that keeps me hopeful when it comes to SS is that Karin did get over Sasuke (or did she?) when he tried to kill her. Why didn't Sakura? Is Kishi trying to show that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are truly unconditional? Or is he trying to show that Karin is the one for Sasuke since she doesn't take that kind of kitten from him (or does she)? If I were Karin, I wouldn't piss off the man who tried to kill me by slapping him. Sasuke does seem more stable now, so maybe he wouldn't try to kill her for doing that.


I think it does look like Sakura's feelings regarding Sasuke is changing. Notice how she cannot agree that her crush is a great guy?


Edited by Nefertieh, 20 December 2012 - 04:30 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:29 AM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Dec 20 2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I cannot imagine wanting to hold someone's hand in anything but in a romantic way. She said she would stop chasing him because she would have already have caught up with him. Her reaction to the hug wasn't very telling, but for all we know, it could be brought up in a flashback in the future.

*cough* sasuke *cough* naruto *cough* Battle in the valley of the end *cough*

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:29 AM

QUOTE (Nefertieh @ Dec 19 2012, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I cannot imagine wanting to hold someone's hand in anything but in a romantic way. She said she would stop chasing him because she would have already have caught up with him. Her reaction to the hug wasn't very telling, but for all we know, it could be brought up in a flashback in the future.


How did she catch up to him? The only way I see her catching up is if Naruto admitted that he had feelings for her. But that's just my opinion. She's still the chaser here.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:29 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 20 2012, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit. To be more on-topic. I don't think Hinata is going to die in the course of this manga. She has already survived one attack when Pain tried to kill her. And now Neji sacrificed his life to save her (and Naruto). There is no way she will die now that another character has done such a thing for her. Or I will be very, very suprised if she does.


I'm not saying I disagree with you because I do agree I don't think Hinata will die but remember Neji was critically injured and almost died during the Sasuke Retrieval Arc, admittedly that was during Part 1 and not against a major villain but still I don't think you can expect characters to be immune just because they've already survived once. Neji's death to me goes against that line of thinking.

And as you said you expect Kakashi to die which is an opinion shared by a good portion of the fanbase from what I've seen and he's already died once.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:35 AM

If Obito get's TnJ'd and uses the Rinne Tensei, would it revive everyone, or just one person?

Because it's sort of implied it can only revive one person if Obito uses it (i.e, reviving only Madara).

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:38 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*cough* sasuke *cough* naruto *cough* Battle in the valley of the end *cough*


Haha. tongue.gif Well, they weren't exactly holding hands, they did that finger-holding hand gesture thing that Iruka mentioned in the chapter when Sasuke and Naruto met as kids.

QUOTE (Qia @ Dec 20 2012, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How did she catch up to him? The only way I see her catching up is if Naruto admitted that he had feelings for her. But that's just my opinion. She's still the chaser here.


I didn't say she has caught up with him, I'm saying her line of reasoning was that she would have caught up with him. So yes, she is technically still chasing him, but it's anything but purely platonic.
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