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[Jio Freed]

 

As I said, it is bound to make more money than RtN.. it is the final film..
even I am excited to see the movie.. how characters look, how their personas changed in 4 years and all that.

I dont care if they didn't make it NaruHina. If need be, I can easily imagine Hinata as an oc (She practically does nothing incredible in manga, and according to me, her personality is as vivid as a dough.)

 

Don't go see the movie....there is literally nothing in it but NH....why you even consider it canon is beyond me

[rocci]

Why do you keep ignoring this? http://meganezaru.tu...shimoneys#notes
The Last? Apparently 12mil 
RtN? Apparently 17mil

Is that poll official? Or just a Japanese blogger made a poll and fill by hundred Japanese Internet user.
I use the latest popularity poll because it official from shonen jump.

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Is that poll official? Or just a Japanese blogger made a poll and fill by hundred Japanese Internet user.
I use the latest popularity poll because it official from shonen jump.

I don't know where it's from, it looks like it's from a website

For the 100th time, you're using an outdated poll

That's like using the last census and saying that's the official number of how many people live in a country now

Edited by TheMagicConch, 29 December 2014 - 05:52 AM.

[Don'tMindME]

   

Don't go see the movie....there is literally nothing in it but NH....why you even consider it canon is beyond me

Because some people enjoy the series for more then pairing. Especially since that's never been a large part of the series. Personally Ill keep watching the series as long as it keeps providing good fights.

[luffyq1]

Because some people enjoy the series for more then pairing. Especially since that's never been a large part of the series. Personally Ill keep watching the series as long as it keeps providing good fights.

even if it breaks the rules the series had established. 

Edited by luffyq1, 29 December 2014 - 05:58 AM.

[somilmish]

nope.. I dont accept NH, but the fact is that it is the last of the series that I loved, and I actually didn't become a hardcore shipper till 2013, so I can tolerate NH... some, to see the end...

And there's gotta be some action too, right? well... I am gonna watch that... I love toneri's energy balls (too much like goku though) and I was intrigued and really wanted to see how naruto's going to deal with the otsutsuki when he himself is so OP.

[Don'tMindME]

even if it breaks the rules the series had established. 

Rules?

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Someone should make a gif where NaruSaku is Michael on the Godfather telling Kishi as Fredo "you broke my heart."

[somilmish]

yes... dontmind me is right...

and if I objectively look at every naruto movie, they are quite repititive...

Naruto gets into some situation, meets some girl, they go on some lame adventure, in the end naruto uses some kind of unicorn farting rainbow rasengan, and bam! he wins..

=/

[luffyq1]

Rules?

asspulls and destroyed themes for the sake of "good fights".

[LuckyChi7]

Time for one of my skits (haven't done one of these in forever) 

 

 

 

From the mountains Sasuke watches over the chrysalis that traps Masashi Kishimoto, who is uknowingly pierced a by chidori true spear. The young Uchiha stuck his hands in the air as the sky gets surrounded by dark thunder clouds that roar two kilometers away from his surrounding. 

 

Sasuke Uchiha (activates EMS): "Farewell Masashi Kishimoto. For I have seen the future, My father."

 

To be continued......

 

 

 

By the way this is Sasuke from 692-697 who somehow witnessed the events in the final two chapters. Think of it as like an AU.     

[Princess Iris]

yes... dontmind me is right...

and if I objectively look at every naruto movie, they are quite repititive...

Naruto gets into some situation, meets some girl, they go on some lame adventure, in the end naruto uses some kind of unicorn farting rainbow rasengan, and bam! he wins..

=/

SP is so creative

Always creates unique stories

[Don'tMindME]

asspulls and destroyed themes for the sake of "good fights".

Kishi has never been consistent on themes. Naruto never gave an answer to pain yet he sacrificed his life for him. All that hard work trumps everything and Naruto is a hardworking loser, but Naruto is the destined child and son of the Hokage. Neji can change his fate, but ends up dieing to keep a main branch member alive. All terrible.

 

What he is good at is:

1. Fights

2. Lore

 

and that's why I read/watch and probably won't stop any time soon.

[rocci]

I don't know where it's from, it looks like it's from a website
For the 100th time, you're using an outdated poll
That's like using the last census and saying that's the official number of how many people live in a country now

Hinata beat sakura in popularity five years ago.
And kishi doesn't develop sakura in war arc even regress her to part 1 in the end of manga. I doubt sakura will beat Hinata if jump make another popularity poll.
And I believe jump will use that old poll to measure character popularity.

[milan kyuubi]

Who bought weekly chapters every week? JP fans!

Who bought whole volumes of chapters? JP fans!

Who bought merchandize? JP fans!

Who had the most advertizement used? Japan! Such as having NS for donating blood! etc etc

Why Naruto become so popular in western? Because of JP fans!

Who watched (and paid for) every Naruto movie? JP fans!

Who watched anime episodes every week? JP fans!

 

While western fans did bought stuff. Majority pirates everything!

 

People say many fans hate TL because of lack of Kakashi and Sasuke. But if that's the reason. Why has Naruto been named "scumbag" by JP fans? Naruto has nothing to do with lack of Kakashi and Sasuke! The only people who loved TL and 699/700 are hardcore NH/SS fans.

 

So watch JP fans say kitten you to Kishi! It's not about Naruto anymore. Kishi lost his creditability as a writer. He has a new manga called Mario. Will people buy and read it? When fans will keep thinking. Is Mario the MC? For all we know it could be the dude who only appeared in 15 chapters! Kishi is a guy who openly admitted that he "misled" basically lied to his fans for 15 years. Who is to say he will not repeat the same with new works?

 

None of Kishi's new works will be received well because of this!

 

He catered to western fans! Well who is to say western fans will even like his new works? He lost the fans who actually made Naruto popular and made him so much money. In the end he is done for!

Edited by milan kyuubi, 29 December 2014 - 06:28 AM.

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Hinata beat sakura in popularity five years ago.
And kishi doesn't develop sakura in war arc even regress her to part 1 in the end of manga. I doubt sakura will beat Hinata if jump make another popularity poll.
And I believe jump will use that old poll to measure character popularity.

Once, beat her once

Doesn't develop her in the war arc? I'm not even going to go into a discussion about that

Because Hinata was so developed right? I mean come on dude look at what you're typing, you're giving so much faith into a poll that 's 5 years old

If Hinata was so popular how come they're isn't that much merchandise about her? How come she wasn't marketed for the Movie? 

You fail to realize how popular SS and NS is in Japan

You can believe in what ever you want, but what you're saying isn't making any dam sense.

Edited by TheMagicConch, 29 December 2014 - 06:18 AM.

[somilmish]

I do think so. She reverted to her fangirl state..

[rocci]

@dont mind me
No, what he good is :
1. Unique art
2. Drawing emotional scene.

The fight is never at full force. It's always one nerve after another.
Do you think sage mode naruto could win again all six path of pain?
The only good fight in this manga is when good character lose, ex :
Lee vs garra and jiraiya vs pain.

Kishi lore is interesting but his timeline is messy. And he always retcon it, because he create contradiction.

[luffyq1]

Kishi has never been consistent on themes. Naruto never gave an answer to pain yet he sacrificed his life for him. All that hard work trumps everything and Naruto is a hardworking loser, but Naruto is the destined child and son of the Hokage. Neji can change his fate, but ends up dieing to keep a main branch member alive. All terrible.

 

What he is good at is:

1. Fights

2. Lore

 

and that's why I read/watch and probably won't stop any time soon.

"hard work", "no short cuts" and "fight destiny" were all themes that were kept consistent a few years ago. now all of it is trashed.  

 

well it's nice to know that there are people who are still interested in this series even though there are contradictions everywhere. definitely have to shut down your brain to sit through this mess.

Edited by luffyq1, 29 December 2014 - 06:21 AM.

[ns.Believe.It]

It's doing good financially. 

 

¥1.49 billion ($12.8 million), The Last: Naruto the Movie (Toho) Week 4

http://forums.boxoff...60#entry1826679

 

It's earned in one month what RTN did in two.

I'd take that with a grain of salt because it doesn't tell the whole story. 

 

Here's the whole truth: Unlike RtN, The Last movie's box office started off with a bang because-- 

1) It is the last Naruto movie and it was supposed to be canon linked to the manga. So the regular readers and even ones who loved Naruto for nostalgia flocked to theaters on the opening day.

2) It was the most heavily advertised Naruto movie ever.

3) It followed RtN which was quite a big hit. The popularity of the previous movie of the same franchise is very important to how the next movie will be received, especially on opening day.  

 

Because of these reasons the opening day collection was 175 % more than what RtN collected in its first day. The collection by 3pm on its opening day was around US$4.3 million. By the end of third day, the collection was 156 % more than what RtN collected after its third day. So I'm guessing The Last's box office was already more than 8 million after 3 days. 

 

http://www.animenews...lion-yen/.81916

 

Now, the collection is US$12.8 million apparently. So in the three weeks and four days that followed, its only collected about 4.5 million dollars. And this is telling.

 

Because RtN was not as advertised and did not initially have the same attraction factor that the Last had, it started off slower. The reviews were good , more people went to see the movie and the collection rocketed. So the main reason for RtN's success was because the plot was good, the characters were treated well and the movie got excellent reviews.  

 

Contrast this to the Last. It was advertised heavily, it had a lot of pulling power and this showed in the opening day collection. But what happened afterwards..? The reviews were bad, many demanded refunds and the collection rate is gradually dropping. You only need to see the initial estimation to realize this. Because the movie was so well recieved on the first day, it was expected that the collection would top 2 billion yen. Its looking extremely unlikely that it will collect another 4 million in one month. 

 

In a nutshell, RtN's success was down to the quality of the movie and The Last's success is down to the pulling power of 'Naruto' and the false advertising.