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#41741 rocci

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 02:51 AM

I call BS..... How is the Nuking and wiping out two cities full of Innocent civillians from the map not completely sadistic.....??

Rape and enslavement are sick but it doesn't cause your great great great grandchildren to be born deformed or brain damaged. It's appaling how people excuse the use of nukes on a city full of civillians  :mad:  :mad:

It Doesn't erase the wrong doing of what japan do in ww2.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:25 AM

To sum it up every countries and ethnicities were huge kitten to the other over the course of history. Its kinda of silly to hold a grudge for things and people that did not do you wrong in the present. The people who build and bombed the stuff are most likely already dead. I guarantee that their karma will eventually catch them. Judge people for their actions.

 

 

We are looking at SP and the magazine having a boner on Hinata at the expense of the heroine and the story. The issue is that Japanese society seems to view female as inferiors and Hinata is their fantasy and Sakura is the opposite. I have heard working women there don't feel valued and dream of a prince charming. its no wonder that a character like Sanji is so popular because he is extremely kind, loyal and caring to women. Not to mention the west literally interpreted as actual domestic violence sakura beating up naruto which is not the case (Tsudere). Maybe deep down inside men in the west have the same kind of fantasy and feminism did not help the idea of women being independent.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:28 AM

It Doesn't erase the wrong doing of what japan do in ww2.

 

So what... Bombing two cities full of civillians with the most powerful bombs ever created is right ??

God..... Do you even know the aftermath of a nuclear explosion...??
Please don't say anything  until you've seen what a fission bomb does.


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#41744 rocci

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:36 AM

 
So what... Bombing two cities full of civillians with the most powerful bombs ever created is right ??

God..... Do you even know the aftermath of a nuclear explosion...??
Please don't say anything  until you've seen what a fission bomb does.

When did I say the bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima is right?

What American did to japan with that is wrong and horrible, but it doesn't change the fact that what the Japanese did in ww2 is not wrong.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:45 AM

Actually, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in hopes that it would knock the US naval fleet out of being able to put up any effective resistance, much less offensives, in the Pacific and force the US to the bargaining table because the US froze Japanese assets and had them in an oil embargo, but that was only done in order to get Japan to stop their initiative of trying to carve out/expand their empire by not only invading China (to which they just walked out of the League of Nations when admonished over it), but also taking advantage of the chaos in Europe by attacking and seizing land controlled by Britain and France (and then the US after Pearl Harbor).

As for the bombs, last I read, there was a military garrison(s) in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a military target due to its ports and such, but they were also done to save lives on both sides in the long-run. It's unknown whether Japan was truly on its way to surrendering (I only recall that they were constantly deadlocked at least, until Emperor Hirohito personally broke it, but otherwise continued to fight on), but otherwise, had the bombs not been dropped, the US would have invaded the Japanese home islands which would have cost half to one million US casualties and millions of Japanese, both military and civilian (who were being trained to essentially be kamikazes themselves by attacking any US soldier they see, blowing themselves up against tanks, and so on). The after-effects are definitely horrible, but one must not forget that the atomic bomb was a brand new thing, the first of its kind, of which even the scientists who studied and created them didn't fully understand, much less be able to predict what would happen after.


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 03:56 AM

@halfdemon inuyasha
It's still horrible thing and wrong.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 04:08 AM

What if the director that read 699-700 says "This is not how the Manga should end. I'll end it with NaruSaku?"

 

 

Then we're gonna get a kitten ton of complaint from salty pro-enders. 

 

 

I wouldn't honestly be surprised if he gives the ending of Naruto a middle finger. 


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 05:59 AM

@halfdemon inuyasha
It's still horrible thing and wrong.

There was no right decision, just the lesser of two evils at the time.


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:22 AM

There was no right decision, just the lesser of two evils at the time.

Evil is evil, and it doesn't make right.
Killing innocent is wrong.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:23 AM

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:28 AM

Actually, Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in hopes that it would knock the US naval fleet out of being able to put up any effective resistance, much less offensives, in the Pacific and force the US to the bargaining table because the US froze Japanese assets and had them in an oil embargo, but that was only done in order to get Japan to stop their initiative of trying to carve out/expand their empire by not only invading China (to which they just walked out of the League of Nations when admonished over it), but also taking advantage of the chaos in Europe by attacking and seizing land controlled by Britain and France (and then the US after Pearl Harbor).

As for the bombs, last I read, there was a military garrison(s) in Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a military target due to its ports and such, but they were also done to save lives on both sides in the long-run. It's unknown whether Japan was truly on its way to surrendering (I only recall that they were constantly deadlocked at least, until Emperor Hirohito personally broke it, but otherwise continued to fight on), but otherwise, had the bombs not been dropped, the US would have invaded the Japanese home islands which would have cost half to one million US casualties and millions of Japanese, both military and civilian (who were being trained to essentially be kamikazes themselves by attacking any US soldier they see, blowing themselves up against tanks, and so on). The after-effects are definitely horrible, but one must not forget that the atomic bomb was a brand new thing, the first of its kind, of which even the scientists who studied and created them didn't fully understand, much less be able to predict what would happen after.

some historians also said the bombs were to impress (or scare?) the soviet union. the us and soviet union were in a strained relationship and the bomb was the start to the cold war.


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:47 AM

Wow, this thread has gone very off topic...


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:52 AM

Wow, this thread has gone very off topic...

My fault sorry i should never write about that :sad:


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:29 AM

Is it true that Hiro Mashima never liked the way Naruto ended?


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Posted 02 August 2015 - 11:10 AM

Is it true that Hiro Mashima never liked the way Naruto ended?

I don't think so.

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 06:45 PM

Is it true that Hiro Mashima never liked the way Naruto ended?

 

I dunno, Crim, but I hope he didn't.



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 07:37 PM

The problem isn't that they milked the series, done right a milked series could have been enteraining and allowed us to get a glimpse of the future.

 

the main issue is that they poisoned the cow they were milking.

 

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Posted 02 August 2015 - 08:39 PM

http://readms.com/r/rock_lee/39/2825/1

 

What the hell is this ? An actual closure to a character and a satisfying conclusion ! Humor and happiness ?!! 



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:47 PM

Oh guys just watched a new vid by watchmojo and its a good one Top 10 Sexiest Women in Anime, and guess what No Hinata at all lol oh there is a god this is why I like them even they know Hinata is sad.

 



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 09:49 PM

I think, Hinata is cute rather than sexy.




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