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#41621 Bryon_Konoha_Ninja

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 04:30 PM

You are absolutely correct. I mean the truth is simply Naruto never loved Sakura; he only pretended to love her because he didn't want to lose to Sasuke. Which by the way he did. But hey that gave birth to most romantic and amazing and perfect pairing in the history of mankind.

 

The famous Naruto and Hinata. It's so perfect. You can feel the love in the air, it's really that amazing the romance between those two.

 

 

 

 

Apart from the fact that it's based on rivalry and guilt. But hey it's "canon" so yeah it's awesome.

 

Exactly, and it's ironic how it's said to be true love, when it isn't since Naruto only fell harder for Hinata because of Toneri wanting her.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 04:47 PM

 

Exactly, and it's ironic how it's said to be true love, when it isn't since Naruto only fell harder for Hinata because of Toneri wanting her.

And it gets even worse when the movie itself declares that this version of Naruto views women as trophies. He sees them as a competition, as a sport. He only wants them if someone else wants them.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 04:58 PM

One would think that if Naru/Hina and Sasu/Saku were such excellent and perfect pairings that Kishimoto wouldn't need to come out and defend his choice of putting them together. With each 'reason' he/SP gives it is just throwing more and more fuel on the fire that is the ire of 'true' Naruto fans, those of us who enjoyed the series for it's messages of perseverance, determination in the face of obstacles, that hard work will trump 'genius' as well as friendship and loyalty, and not those 'fans' who only like the series for it's terrible ideas of romance and love. Naruto has dissolved into a worse version of Harry Potter with all the shipping wars that have gone on, especially since JKR came out earlier this year with that article on how she might have made a mistake putting Hermione and Ron together in the end. At least in Harry Potter, the red herrings/teases that JKR gave the readers were just that red herrings/teases, and that they flowed in the story. She didn't go back after finishing book 7 and change the first couple chapters of book 1 to include Ginny as Harry's 'forgotten guardian angel'. 

 

It's hilarious to read reviews from Hinata lovers/Sakura haters on ff.net in my Naruto-RW story who are bashing me for 'bashing' Hinata or 'praising Sakura', or even comparing the two with their fangirl/stalkerish tendencies when I am trying to build both Hinata and Sakura's characters up to a respectable level.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:12 PM

One would think that if Naru/Hina and Sasu/Saku were such excellent and perfect pairings that Kishimoto wouldn't need to come out and defend his choice of putting them together. With each 'reason' he/SP gives it is just throwing more and more fuel on the fire that is the ire of 'true' Naruto fans, those of us who enjoyed the series for it's messages of perseverance, determination in the face of obstacles, that hard work will trump 'genius' as well as friendship and loyalty, and not those 'fans' who only like the series for it's terrible ideas of romance and love. Naruto has dissolved into a worse version of Harry Potter with all the shipping wars that have gone on, especially since JKR came out earlier this year with that article on how she might have made a mistake putting Hermione and Ron together in the end. At least in Harry Potter, the red herrings/teases that JKR gave the readers were just that red herrings/teases, and that they flowed in the story. She didn't go back after finishing book 7 and change the first couple chapters of book 1 to include Ginny as Harry's 'forgotten guardian angel'. 

 

It's hilarious to read reviews from Hinata lovers/Sakura haters on ff.net in my Naruto-RW story who are bashing me for 'bashing' Hinata or 'praising Sakura', or even comparing the two with their fangirl/stalkerish tendencies when I am trying to build both Hinata and Sakura's characters up to a respectable level.

 

Yeesh!

 

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Speaking of fanfics, here's a good one to go with. :)



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:56 PM

One would think that if Naru/Hina and Sasu/Saku were such excellent and perfect pairings that Kishimoto wouldn't need to come out and defend his choice of putting them together. With each 'reason' he/SP gives it is just throwing more and more fuel on the fire that is the ire of 'true' Naruto fans, those of us who enjoyed the series for it's messages of perseverance, determination in the face of obstacles, that hard work will trump 'genius' as well as friendship and loyalty, and not those 'fans' who only like the series for it's terrible ideas of romance and love. Naruto has dissolved into a worse version of Harry Potter with all the shipping wars that have gone on, especially since JKR came out earlier this year with that article on how she might have made a mistake putting Hermione and Ron together in the end. At least in Harry Potter, the red herrings/teases that JKR gave the readers were just that red herrings/teases, and that they flowed in the story. She didn't go back after finishing book 7 and change the first couple chapters of book 1 to include Ginny as Harry's 'forgotten guardian angel'. 
 
It's hilarious to read reviews from Hinata lovers/Sakura haters on ff.net in my Naruto-RW story who are bashing me for 'bashing' Hinata or 'praising Sakura', or even comparing the two with their fangirl/stalkerish tendencies when I am trying to build both Hinata and Sakura's characters up to a respectable level.

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 05:58 PM

For those of you that are familiar with the Harry Potter books, I have a question. Was Rowling working for someone? Was she working for a company?


Edited by Nostradamus, 21 July 2015 - 05:58 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 06:17 PM

My understanding is she was an independent author who finally hooked up with Bloomsberry publishing after multiple rejections form other publishing houses.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:10 PM

My understanding is she was an independent author who finally hooked up with Bloomsberry publishing after multiple rejections form other publishing houses.

 

Yeah, JKR went to like 15 different publishers before Bloomsberry gave her a contract. A common meme in the Harry Potter fandom is 'Think you have it bad, just remember you aren't one of the 12 publishers who passed on Harry Potter.'

 

Where is your fanfic?

 

Its on fanfic.net, titled: Naruto: Hidden Legacy.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 07:14 PM

I see, thanks for the answer.


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Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:47 PM

One would think that if Naru/Hina and Sasu/Saku were such excellent and perfect pairings that Kishimoto wouldn't need to come out and defend his choice of putting them together. With each 'reason' he/SP gives it is just throwing more and more fuel on the fire that is the ire of 'true' Naruto fans, those of us who enjoyed the series for it's messages of perseverance, determination in the face of obstacles, that hard work will trump 'genius' as well as friendship and loyalty, and not those 'fans' who only like the series for it's terrible ideas of romance and love. Naruto has dissolved into a worse version of Harry Potter with all the shipping wars that have gone on, especially since JKR came out earlier this year with that article on how she might have made a mistake putting Hermione and Ron together in the end. At least in Harry Potter, the red herrings/teases that JKR gave the readers were just that red herrings/teases, and that they flowed in the story. She didn't go back after finishing book 7 and change the first couple chapters of book 1 to include Ginny as Harry's 'forgotten guardian angel'. 

 

It's hilarious to read reviews from Hinata lovers/Sakura haters on ff.net in my Naruto-RW story who are bashing me for 'bashing' Hinata or 'praising Sakura', or even comparing the two with their fangirl/stalkerish tendencies when I am trying to build both Hinata and Sakura's characters up to a respectable level.

I just get death threats on mine.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:52 PM

I just get death threats on mine.

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Posted 21 July 2015 - 10:54 PM

Welcome to the internet.

Yeah all by NH fans, I mean its gotten a lot worse since Naruto ended that is for sure I mean for us NaruSaku writers I feel that they want NS to die out all together so that all they have to see is NH.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:21 PM

Yeah all by NH fans, I mean its gotten a lot worse since Naruto ended that is for sure I mean for us NaruSaku writers I feel that they want NS to die out all together so that all they have to see is NH.

Well the story fans as well as the NS fans left. So all that's felt are the fanatics NH fans.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
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Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:40 PM

Well the story fans as well as the NS fans left. So all that's felt are the fanatics NH fans.

Well I still see many NaruSaku stories, and I feel that if we do stop doing fanfics of them and giving them what they should have got would kill them off for good, we as NS may hate who they have become. But if we stop doing stories with them and how they should have become. Well that just means that in the end both SP and NH win, and many are letting it happen I feel we owe it too the real Naruto and Sakura to give them what they should have gotten.

 

Naruto being a good Hokage that we all knew he would have been and a good father to his kids and getting the girl that he has loved for so long by not making him this scumbag that SP have changed him into to suite their own sick ideas on what love is.

 

Sakura being a smart woman who moves on from Sasuke and knows that there are better man that will treat her right, and being the head medic ninja of Konoha.



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Posted 21 July 2015 - 11:55 PM

Well I still see many NaruSaku stories, and I feel that if we do stop doing fanfics of them and giving them what they should have got would kill them off for good, we as NS may hate who they have become. But if we stop doing stories with them and how they should have become. Well that just means that in the end both SP and NH win, and many are letting it happen I feel we owe it too the real Naruto and Sakura to give them what they should have gotten.

 

Naruto being a good Hokage that we all knew he would have been and a good father to his kids and getting the girl that he has loved for so long by not making him this scumbag that SP have changed him into to suite their own sick ideas on what love is.

 

Sakura being a smart woman who moves on from Sasuke and knows that there are better man that will treat her right, and being the head medic ninja of Konoha.

I didn't say quit. I'm just stating the fact that the story ended, and it didn't end well for either the story fans or NS fans. So of course most fans of the story and NS left. Because in the end we were betrayed.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 22 July 2015 - 12:04 AM

If we stop writing NS fanfics then they win the war. I know NH is canon but after Naruto Gaiden I'm glad it's not cause of this crap. 


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Posted 22 July 2015 - 12:58 AM

I didn't say quit. I'm just stating the fact that the story ended, and it didn't end well for either the story fans or NS fans. So of course most fans of the story and NS left. Because in the end we were betrayed.

Sadly that is true which is sad I just hope the opnes that we do have left stick to doing fanfics.

 

If we stop writing NS fanfics then they win the war. I know NH is canon but after Naruto Gaiden I'm glad it's not cause of this crap. 

Yeah I mean I will keep doing my fan fics of them one of which man Misty will be helping Sakura a lot.



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 01:16 AM

Sadly that is true which is sad I just hope the opnes that we do have left stick to doing fanfics.
 

Yeah I mean I will keep doing my fan fics of them one of which man Misty will be helping Sakura a lot.

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Posted 22 July 2015 - 01:26 AM

i hope NS fanfics' don't stop. i like reading them. they're always so deep, and meaningful, and sweet. there are/were some really good writers out there



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Posted 22 July 2015 - 01:48 AM

As I tend to scour fanfiction.net a lot, I can safely say that ever since later in the War Arc, the number of new Naruto fanfics plummeted. There used to be several hundred, if not thousand each month, which is why it quickly became the anime with the most fanfics. Ever since the War Arc, it doesn't even hit a thousand or more after several months. Of course, filtering out NH and NS, NH is at 23.0K while NS is 14.7K. XP


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