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#41581 Nostradamus

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 12:44 AM

Did he really say he gave Naruto to Hinata out of pity ? Cause he could've put her with another character and showing her happy or showing us she's moved on or any other positive outcome :fu:

 

He could've made pity to anything else positive.

Yes he did. It was in that pamphlet that was handed when the movie came out.


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 12:46 AM

Yes he did. It was in that pamphlet that was handed when the movie came out.

Then he sell out the manga at the end.



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Posted 12 July 2015 - 01:36 AM

@yubei
No, naruto love sakura not as sister. That kind of type of friendship that so close to the point they think themselves as sibling will never think they are lover. Sakura may, but not naruto.

How hard for them to accept that naruto romantically love sakura is beyond me.

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Posted 12 July 2015 - 02:03 AM

@yubei
No, naruto love sakura not as sister. That kind of type of friendship that so close to the point they think themselves as sibling will never think they are lover. Sakura may, but not naruto.

How hard for them to accept that naruto romantically love sakura is beyond me.

It's hard for them because that diminishes Naruto's "love" for Hinata. Which is funny because the movie clearly states that Naruto only wants Hinata because he doesn't want to lose to Toneri and he decides to give Hinata a chance out of pity. Because he's sent on that guilt trip. They still failed to understand that Naruto doesn't love Hinata and never will. Or maybe they actually understand what The Last declared and now to try to defend their pairing they're using the same argument as before. The whole brother-sister one.  


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 09:33 AM

I just found this disturbing image from NH fans

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i too like to see my brother bathing

 

true sibling love, i tell you


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 09:48 AM

i too like to see my brother bathing

 

true sibling love, i tell you

Lol incest!! :lulz:


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 10:24 AM

Wanting to like a Sakura appreciation post, but then it includes the ending.


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Posted 12 July 2015 - 03:47 PM

It's hard for them because that diminishes Naruto's "love" for Hinata. Which is funny because the movie clearly states that Naruto only wants Hinata because he doesn't want to lose to Toneri and he decides to give Hinata a chance out of pity. Because he's sent on that guilt trip. They still failed to understand that Naruto doesn't love Hinata and never will. Or maybe they actually understand what The Last declared and now to try to defend their pairing they're using the same argument as before. The whole brother-sister one.  

 

Exactly, which is dumb, since Sakura as SP wrote her in The Last said Naruto only loved her due to rivalry with Sasuke, but if she still was so stuck on Sasuke, why would she have done the things she did for Naruto? Like giving him CPR when he was dying after Madara ripped Kurama from him, or her panicked state when he went 4-Tails at the Tenchi Bridge after Orochimaru taunted him about Sasuke, or even admitting her feelings to him while trying to deny she still loved Sasuke with the aim to kill Sasuke to ease the burden on Naruto?

 

See, Studio Pierrot and extremists? YA CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, DUMBASSES!!!



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Posted 12 July 2015 - 06:04 PM

 

Exactly, which is dumb, since Sakura as SP wrote her in The Last said Naruto only loved her due to rivalry with Sasuke, but if she still was so stuck on Sasuke, why would she have done the things she did for Naruto? Like giving him CPR when he was dying after Madara ripped Kurama from him, or her panicked state when he went 4-Tails at the Tenchi Bridge after Orochimaru taunted him about Sasuke, or even admitting her feelings to him while trying to deny she still loved Sasuke with the aim to kill Sasuke to ease the burden on Naruto?

 

See, Studio Pierrot and extremists? YA CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, DUMBASSES!!!

The whole Naruto manga is always about OVERCOME the impossible. Naruto failed getting the girl of his dream, and become better hokage than the previous one. He let Orochimaru free and continue with his inhuman experiment, Orochimaru must be execute to death because he use innocent human to be his lab rat. Suppose that lab rat has family wife/husband and kid and he just let him continue killing innocent people, he did not bring justice to those family that died and become test subject. How many life has lost in the hand of Orochimaru? even helping in the war arc does not enough to cover his sin.

 

A cow that can no longer produce milk will just gonna be a burden, a mouth to feed. So if cow stop producing milk what the owner gonna do? ofc kill it and sell the meat.

Same story with NS, SP think NS can no longer give them money because they think NH/SS is the one that gonna bring money. So they kill it.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 02:26 AM

 

Exactly, which is dumb, since Sakura as SP wrote her in The Last said Naruto only loved her due to rivalry with Sasuke, but if she still was so stuck on Sasuke, why would she have done the things she did for Naruto? Like giving him CPR when he was dying after Madara ripped Kurama from him, or her panicked state when he went 4-Tails at the Tenchi Bridge after Orochimaru taunted him about Sasuke, or even admitting her feelings to him while trying to deny she still loved Sasuke with the aim to kill Sasuke to ease the burden on Naruto?

 

See, Studio Pierrot and extremists? YA CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, DUMBASSES!!!

Just like I said in my rant the people who wrote the movie didn't pay any attention to the manga and even worse they didn't even paid attention to their own freaking movie.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 01:21 PM

Just like I said in my rant the people who wrote the movie didn't pay any attention to the manga and even worse they didn't even paid attention to their own freaking movie.

Yup. And this may sounds crazy but, you'd be SURPRISE on how many people that read and likes naruto manga just because the characters looks not for story or plot. Believe me, some people [A LOT maybe] actually read naruto because Sasuke and Hinata ALONE thats it. 2 of my friends do this, she and he said "Who cares about story and plot line,Sasuke powerful is handsome cool hes really my type plus hes a criminal oh that makes him even cooler. Hinata is beautiful strong minded caring motherly hot and sexy, shes just happen to be my ideal girl". They are both my friends and good person, but after that words coming out from their mouth and reach my ear. I suddenly keep my distance with them.

 

People actually follow this manga just because the character looks good, and thats make them support whatever deed that characters do regardless of bad or good deeds. What i try to convince them with logic i say "But sasuke do bad things and hurt his friends and hinata is pairing fodder damsel in distress she suppose to be strong leader of her clan" They reply with "Who cares i like them so i support whatever they do". Lol and then i go with the details and explain sasuke murder intentions and hinata prefer naruto over her sister that has been abducted in the movie and what they say?? "RELAX ITS JUST A CARTOON".

 

HAHAHAHA. I feel stupid for trying to make them open their eyes. They just beyond helpless.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 03:12 PM

Yup. And this may sounds crazy but, you'd be SURPRISE on how many people that read and likes naruto manga just because the characters looks not for story or plot. Believe me, some people [A LOT maybe] actually read naruto because Sasuke and Hinata ALONE thats it. 2 of my friends do this, she and he said "Who cares about story and plot line,Sasuke powerful is handsome cool hes really my type plus hes a criminal oh that makes him even cooler. Hinata is beautiful strong minded caring motherly hot and sexy, shes just happen to be my ideal girl". They are both my friends and good person, but after that words coming out from their mouth and reach my ear. I suddenly keep my distance with them.

 

People actually follow this manga just because the character looks good, and thats make them support whatever deed that characters do regardless of bad or good deeds. What i try to convince them with logic i say "But sasuke do bad things and hurt his friends and hinata is pairing fodder damsel in distress she suppose to be strong leader of her clan" They reply with "Who cares i like them so i support whatever they do". Lol and then i go with the details and explain sasuke murder intentions and hinata prefer naruto over her sister that has been abducted in the movie and what they say?? "RELAX ITS JUST A CARTOON".

 

HAHAHAHA. I feel stupid for trying to make them open their eyes. They just beyond helpless.

Just leave them be. Trust me there's no point in trying to open their eyes. Some people just like to go through life obvious to everything.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 03:48 PM

Just leave them be. Trust me there's no point in trying to open their eyes. Some people just like to go through life obvious to everything.

 

Which is tragic, given there's those of us not upset about the ending but because logic was thrown out the window for the sake of money. =/



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:52 PM

I just found this: 

 

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... this is actually true. I've never realized it.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 07:56 PM

I just found this: 

 

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... this is actually true. I've never realized it.

I've said this many times Minato was the hero while Hinata was the one that screwed up. She made the entire situation worse than it already was.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:25 PM

I've said this many times Minato was the hero while Hinata was the one that screwed up. She made the entire situation worse than it already was.

Same here. Hinata only made the situation far worse due to her own self-admitted selfishness, and if it weren't for Minato seal hax, Naruto would've released Kurama and died, and then Kurama would have gone on to kill Pein (just 6-8 tails in Jinchuriki self was more than enough to easily overpower his techniques. Pretty sure a fully released nine tails would be exponentially stronger), most likely the entire rest of Konoha, and then who knows how much else of the continent before, most likely, Kumo would get their hands on him with those convenient Sage tools (which would then probably get stolen by Obito right under their nose and then all he'd need is Bee, assuming Obito doesn't just easily take control of Kurama himself like before)..


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:13 PM

I always found her behaviour very selfish. But I always thought it more or less saved Naruto from being captured by Pain. Now I realize Hinatas supposed dead made it even worse ...lol.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:43 PM

I always found her behaviour very selfish. But I always thought it more or less saved Naruto from being captured by Pain. Now I realize Hinatas supposed dead made it even worse ...lol.

Kishi could do that with neji.
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Posted 13 July 2015 - 10:07 PM

Looks like NS week in tumblr: Gender Bender.

 

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 10:30 PM

Same here. Hinata only made the situation far worse due to her own self-admitted selfishness, and if it weren't for Minato seal hax, Naruto would've released Kurama and died, and then Kurama would have gone on to kill Pein (just 6-8 tails in Jinchuriki self was more than enough to easily overpower his techniques. Pretty sure a fully released nine tails would be exponentially stronger), most likely the entire rest of Konoha, and then who knows how much else of the continent before, most likely, Kumo would get their hands on him with those convenient Sage tools (which would then probably get stolen by Obito right under their nose and then all he'd need is Bee, assuming Obito doesn't just easily take control of Kurama himself like before)..

She does the same when Neji dies. She and Neji blocks most of the mega toothpicks and then it's suddenly too much for her, so she stops and spreads her body out as a shield. If you look at the panel you'll see that she planned to take the hit for Naruto, but then Neji took it for her. WTF. I feel so sorry for Hinata for the way Kishi has been writing her. Every woman should've escaped that man. I think Kishi is a very bitter man with a lot of grudges at people that he takes out in his ultra-sexist manga and pretends that he is punishing ppl he hates irl. I srsly think that's it. Hinata's Pain moment, Neji's death, rock tripping, oh kitten lets not forget the tragic ending-Sakura. The problem is not that he can not write women, do not excuse his sexism as incompetence ~ he can when he wants to(or maybe it was the editor idk). Karin is now well written for example. But Sakura went from fighting Sasori with boss dodging skills to needing kakashi to push her out of the simplest attacks in the war. Women's strength in the manga are only used as a last resort, a plot device and it is very much based on how much men around her can save her. Sakura only showed her new diamond power because in the same chapter, we are once again reminded that men have to save women 24/7. Kishi is intentionally writing women bad and then he has the gal to ask his fans "what did I do wrong? :umm: :whistling: "

 

He thinks he is so smug.  :yucky:


Edited by sushi., 14 July 2015 - 07:03 PM.

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