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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Sep 11 2012, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, that whole "Secret Lovers" thing on the PS3 Naruto games always annoyed me as well. I just HATED even looking at it, mostly because it was so incredibly not true. I also remember another team on UNS 2 that bothered me a little bit. If you pick Sakura, Ino, and Karin the team name said "Fighting For Sasuke's heart" or something like that dry.gif. I know it was true for Karin and probably Ino but why Sakura? It made her seem like a Part 1 fangirl again and I'm still convinced she already gave up on winning Sasuke's heart by now. She still loves him but isn't pursuing him.

"Secret Love" would have definitely worked for the Naruto/Hinata team up. I heard a excuse from the game producers that they meant to put "Secret Love"(Why put anything at all honestly? Sakura and Naruto deserve a team name more than N/H) and that it was a mistake. But after getting UNS3 and it said the exact same wording as last time, I can't buy that excuse anymore. It's obvious it was intentional. I HATE NaruHina fanservice. argh1.png


But yeah, it was kinda funny actually. Both of the games completely cut out Hinata's confession(It cut off Sakura's confession too in UNS3, but whatever ya know?) and the hug was included in the UNS2(Was it included in UNS3 too? My memory is kinda fuzzy tongue.gif). NaruSaku does seem like the one with the most fanservice though ... that's for sure. Especially lately happy.gif.

For the record, UNS3 is Generations and that game is mostly copy/paste game, which is why people were skeptical to buy the game. So yeah, let's see what they do with the newest game. Funny, I didn't know about the girls' team name. Meh, it's ironic if you ask me. Because this developer is known to have more NS fanservice since the third game for ps2. Then Accel 1 have them fight each other to test each other and if Naruto wins, Sakura promised him a date, which he stills has to pay. Then Accel 2, they have a team special, which is pretty funny. So yeah, not sure why they put name in there. Probably just needed to put something in there. I don't know. I hope the next game has the end of this current arc, giving them idea not to put false names again. It's misleading for newcomers. So yeah, even if they put some odd team names, the fact who they favored the most is still NaruSaku. I don't care to be honest. As long the game shows what favors what, then I'm cool. Not like they know the most.

Trust me, if we have to use games for evidence, they won't win at all. I just saw the psp one again, who is made by the ps3 guys and yeah, they sure favored NaruSaku more than others. Sasuke is made to be more of an a**hole than ever before (if that's even possible). It's funny how they kept the hug and Sakura's confession. They even made the whole scene into only Naruto and Sakura alone talking. Another funny part is that they seems to made the confession clearer, maybe. Basically, Naruto said, "Even if you do feel this way about me, I must save Sasuke no matter what." So, in a nutshell, he obviously only upset that people are giving up on Sasuke, as he is still going to do it. Yeah, so much for Naruto reject her love. It's more about her forgetting Sasuke as Naruto noticed something isn't right. Oh btw, that game have its own ending. In the end, Sakura asked Naruto if she can sit besides him, so he allowed it. She thanks him for bringing back hope for Team 7. Naruto reassured this. Then, they both walk down the road alone. I don't know, it really seems like they favored this pairing. I just wish they would look over the team name and change it up, but whatever.

Oh and trust me, this arc should clear this thing up. At least for NaruHina. Again. Final chance for Hinata.

@neoshadow: This.

The fact the game is a port. It's nothing but a replacement for UNS2 and a test to their new combat system. Actually, Ino did cry for Sasuke when the news about killing him broke out. Remember? Chouji tried to cheer her up and Kiba was like "Oh shut up."

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 September 2012 - 05:22 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:29 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 11 2012, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the record, UNS3 is Generations and that game is mostly copy/paste game, which is why people were skeptical to buy the game. So yeah, let's see what they do with the newest game. Funny, I didn't know about the girls' team name. Meh, it's ironic if you ask me. Because this developer is known to have more NS fanservice since the third game for ps2. Then Accel 1 have them fight each other to test each other and if Naruto wins, Sakura promised him a date, which he stills has to pay. Then Accel 2, they have a team special, which is pretty funny. So yeah, not sure why they put name in there. Probably just needed to put something in there. I don't know. I hope the next game has the end of this current arc, giving them idea not to put false names again. It's misleading for newcomers. So yeah, even if they put some odd team names, the fact who they favored the most is still NaruSaku. I don't care to be honest. As long the game shows what favors what, then I'm cool. Not like they know the most.

Trust me, if we have to use games for evidence, they won't win at all. I just saw the psp one again, who is made by the ps3 guys and yeah, they sure favored NaruSaku more than others. Sasuke is made to be more of an a**hole than ever before (if that's even possible). It's funny how they kept the hug and Sakura's confession. They even made the whole scene into only Naruto and Sakura alone talking. Another funny part is that they seems to made the confession clearer, maybe. Basically, Naruto said, "Even if you do feel this way about me, I must save Sasuke no matter what." So, in a nutshell, he obviously only upset that people are giving up on Sasuke, as he is still going to do it. Yeah, so much for Naruto reject her love. It's more about her forgetting Sasuke as Naruto noticed something isn't right. Oh btw, that game have its own ending. In the end, Sakura asked Naruto if she can sit besides him, so he allowed it. She thanks him for bringing back hope for Team 7. Naruto reassured this. Then, they both walk down the road alone. I don't know, it really seems like they favored this pairing. I just wish they would look over the team name and change it up, but whatever.

Oh and trust me, this arc should clear this thing up. At least for NaruHina. Again. Final chance for Hinata.


Thats it in a nutshell, some pairings get a title but the content is what truly matters and we've got that covered. I didn't know the psp game (I assume you're talking about Ultimate Ninja Impact?) changed Sakura's confession like that (the only Naruto games I've played are some of the ps2 ones and now the Storm series), I like that version so much more, its a lot clearer from everyones point of view.

From the looks of all the scans and things the next game should go from the Kage Summit to somewhere within the War arc so it will be interesting to see what moments are added into it.

Oh right, I found that moment that Ino cried strange, her feelings hadn't been brought up in years and then suddenly shes crying.

Edited by neoshadow, 11 September 2012 - 05:34 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:40 AM

QUOTE (neoshadow @ Sep 11 2012, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thats it in a nutshell, some pairings get a title but the content is what truly matters and we've got that covered. I didn't know the psp game (I assume you're talking about Ultimate Ninja Impact?) changed Sakura's confession like that (the only Naruto games I've played are some of the ps2 ones and now the Storm series), I like that version so much more, its a lot clearer from everyones point of view.

From the looks of all the scans and things the next game should go from the Kage Summit to somewhere within the War arc so it will be interesting to see what moments are added into it.

Yeah, that's the game. Naruto got only mad once she said forget Sasuke and tell him to give up, which of course Naruto will never do. He was telling her to stop lying, and then think that even you do feel that way, he won't stop chasing after Sasuke, he's doing it for his sake. They both went quiet and then she said that's enough. She walks away and Naruto just said, "Sakura..." It's a couple's argument. I do find this realistic. That remind me, I do believe that something about this will bring up again soon. A lot of things will come for them and don't doubt on Kishi. Again, it's all about timing.

The next game should be interesting to see how they will handle it. It's always nice to note that arc ended in a high note for NaruSaku. So yeah, so much for ending their relationships. Let's not forget that Sakura is concerned on his last words to Sasuke (We will die together). It will come. Again, Hinata has no relevant to the plot whatsoever.

You think her crying is strange? Well, true, but she only reinforced that girls' feelings are hard to drop for a guy. Sakura is going to prove that soon. I really hope Kishi knows what's he doing. Karin, not yet, because I want to see her interaction with Sasuke in the later event to pass my judgment. So yeah, Ino still loves Sasuke I guess. Same for Lee loving Sakura. That's why I don't get it. How Hinata and Sakura's feelings for guys count the most. That's actually insulting to Naruto. I'm not kidding.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 September 2012 - 05:42 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:54 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 11 2012, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, that's the game. Naruto got only mad once she said forget Sasuke and tell him to give up, which of course Naruto will never do. He was telling her to stop lying, and then think that even you do feel that way, he won't stop chasing after Sasuke, he's doing it for his sake. They both went quiet and then she said that's enough. She walks away and Naruto just said, "Sakura..." It's a couple's argument. I do find this realistic. That remind me, I do believe that something about this will bring up again soon. A lot of things will come for them and don't doubt on Kishi. Again, it's all about timing.

The next game should be interesting to see how they will handle it. It's always nice to note that arc ended in a high note for NaruSaku. So yeah, so much for ending their relationships. Let's not forget that Sakura is concerned on his last words to Sasuke (We will die together). It will come. Again, Hinata has no relevant to the plot whatsoever.

You think her crying is strange? Well, true, but she only reinforced that girls' feelings are hard to drop for a guy. Sakura is going to prove that soon. I really hope Kishi knows what's he doing. Karin, not yet, because I want to see her interaction with Sasuke in the later event to pass my judgment. So yeah, Ino still loves Sasuke I guess. Same for Lee loving Sakura. That's why I don't get it. How Hinata and Sakura's feelings for guys count the most. That's actually insulting to Naruto. I'm not kidding.


You're right that is quite realistic, it highlights one of the reasons I love this pairing, both Naruto and Sakura are good people but they're not infallible. The next game will certainly feature both Sakura's confession and the brief reunion of Team 7 as well as Kushina's flashback so it will be interesting to see how they handle it all. I agree on Hinata and I agree with what was mentioned earlier about the war being used to tie up character development for a lot of the secondary characters, Hinata included.
Post War should really be the story of the final conflict of Team 7.

It's not the crying which is strange its that it seemed out of the blue, Ino's feelings for Sasuke were only really important during the Chunin exams when she was Sakura's rival, but then to bring them back to the forefront so much later seemed out of place to me, I guess since it wasn't so long after Asuma's death, she didn't want to lose anyone else.

Edited by neoshadow, 11 September 2012 - 05:55 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:25 AM

QUOTE (neoshadow @ Sep 11 2012, 01:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're right that is quite realistic, it highlights one of the reasons I love this pairing, both Naruto and Sakura are good people but they're not infallible. The next game will certainly feature both Sakura's confession and the brief reunion of Team 7 as well as Kushina's flashback so it will be interesting to see how they handle it all. I agree on Hinata and I agree with what was mentioned earlier about the war being used to tie up character development for a lot of the secondary characters, Hinata included.
Post War should really be the story of the final conflict of Team 7.

It's not the crying which is strange its that it seemed out of the blue, Ino's feelings for Sasuke were only really important during the Chunin exams when she was Sakura's rival, but then to bring them back to the forefront so much later seemed out of place to me, I guess since it wasn't so long after Asuma's death, she didn't want to lose anyone else.

Well, Ino is a side character, so people wouldn't remember her feelings for Sasuke. To be honest, she is same as Sakura. They both need to move on sooner or later. Actually, sooner. Remember, Asuma did tell her to not to lose to Sakura in battle of love. So, I guess it will be a draw again for Sasuke's love as in giving it up. Ironic, because they had a draw in the Chunnin Exam. Anyway, the only difference is that Sakura has a new man that shows her what's true love really is. Again, Kishi is not going to let Naruto lose in this kind of matter. Say what you want, but love is a big deal for anyone and Naruto's love is no exception. All these recent hints tell me that romance will happen and Naruto is the one to bring it. Again, noticed that his conflict with others has romance aspect in them (Obito, Jiraiya, Kushina). Let's look at Sasuke. Oh that's right, none. He's all about finding the truth while Naruto is about bonds and his life. That's why we always see about people's life in many forms, and romance is one of them.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:03 AM

through some very complex and extremely reliable calculations I have determained that the Naruto X Sakura pairing might have a slight chance of maybe having this probability : anywhere from 1 to 100%


I used the official percentage determining method via some technique. You all have no choice but to accept that NaruSaku might have a slight chance of maybe having a percentage chance equal to any number from 1 to 100 of happening.


Any objections? No? Then there, that's it. Hopefully we don't have people guessing on percentages anymore.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:17 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Sep 11 2012, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
through some very complex and extremely reliable calculations I have determained that the Naruto X Sakura pairing might have a slight chance of maybe having this probability : anywhere from 1 to 100%


I used the official percentage determining method via some technique. You all have no choice but to accept that NaruSaku might have a slight chance of maybe having a percentage chance equal to any number from 1 to 100 of happening.


Any objections? No? Then there, that's it. Hopefully we don't have people guessing on percentages anymore.


I dont know what you mean with.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:30 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 11 2012, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont know what you mean with.

good, the point is that we have no way of determining what the exact percentage is.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 07:49 AM

Yes its clear that you cant calculate the percent of NS possibilty.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Sep 11 2012, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Glad I return here. Guess I shall express my opinion.

Okay, let me say this. This is my only opinion. I don't think this whole pairing war should be complicated as Kishi is making out to be. Again, I see Hinata's role heavily exaggerated. She just got her needed development. That's all. Yes, I understand that she said that line from the last time we saw her. I am telling you now: this is a make it or break it. To me, it's heading to break it. I'm getting tired of that excuse with "Everyone should be paired." Okay, but what about the other side characters? Heck, I didn't know Lee still love Sakura (judging from that shocking face when Sakura confess). Ino still likes Sasuke and to be honest, I can't dismiss Karin's part as well. Now that she's an Uzumaki, if Kishi needs her to be pair with anyone, then Sasuke sounds the best. Again, not saying he will be paired with, because he can stay alone. Hinata may get the focus out of the side characters, but there's always alternative for her using her feelings. Like I said earlier, she can pass the torch to Sakura if she truly realizes that Naruto loves her. That or she will talk to Naruto about his feelings for Sakura, knowing that he should confess before it's too late. Again, this is her final shot.

Now, let's look at this realistically. Why on earth Kishi make all those panels with her smiling at Naruto, as well as Naruto smiling at her. Why we need to be reminded about his feelings for her in the flashback? Why the obvious parallels? Why we needed to know how Kushina fell in love with Minato, which ended up being a parallel? Why we needed that small Shikamaru's argument about why his dad married his mom knowing that she's troublesome? Why no love support for Sasuke in his journey? Why Itachi didn't give him advice on love? Why everyone who connects to Naruto (Jiraiya) has to mention love failure (now recent Obito)? Why not connect to Sasuke? Why go over Sakura's feelings in Heaven/Earth bridge? Why leave the sentence incomplete from Yamato? Why always draw the crowd seeing the hug as romantic? Why not Hinata doing that moment to gain the momentum? Why no support on both girls? Why only support on Naruto (Jiraiya, Minato, coming soon Obito)? Why Naruto should give up on Sakura if he's not a quitter!? Why Kishi made a movie to show the bonds between Naruto/Sakura and not anyone else? Why Sakura should go with Sasuke, which would consider Sasuke's victory over Naruto, and they're rivals?

I can go with the question, but if you can answer all of them and still feel doubt on NaruSaku, well I pray the last moment of Hinata will finally calm down the storm. Oh, btw, if you really think Kishi will go down a unpredictable route, Tobi says hi. Minato also says hi. It doesn't matter about the predictability. What matters is to tell a great story. There is so many wrongs with NaruHina/SasuSaku.

This doesn't count but it does beg the question. All medias has acknowledged NaruSaku in many forms. The video games for example acknowledged the hug, but not Hinata's confession. Why is that? Maybe because, oh I don't know, it's not related to the plot. Also, they even made an extra ending to the Kage Summit Arc by having Naruto and Sakura sitting in the field, which then they proceed to walk together alone. Yes, I know, only the manga counts. BUT! This does beg the question. Why media (anime, games, etc) see NaruSaku as a final pairing if the manga could go with others? Is it because it's obvious? Do they know from Kishi himself? Won't it look awkward to see them wrong in the end? NaruHina fanservices can easily get away with this because Naruto NEVER show any romance feelings. SasuSaku stays degrading (for example, in the game, Sasuke went straight for the kill in no less than a minute). NaruSaku continues to receive the support. But again, why?

So yeah, there's my rant. I hope you have second thought. Trust me, I can't wait for this whole fiasco with Hinata ends. Once she is dealt with, it's pretty much seal. And we still don't know what will happen to Karin with Sasuke. Anything can happen there. So yeah, I can go on, but first, I shall wait for your thoughts. Have a good day. happy.gif


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QUOTE (NS means logic @ Sep 11 2012, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice rant, but as just 2 days ago I start to feel myself a little against the parallels they help the pairing a lot, but the events between Naruto and Sakura help NS a lot more. Is like what dova posted, Sai made Sakura realise how Naruto feels about Sakura then Sakura flash back on Naruto's word before he went off to find Sasuke Making her vow not to ever make another mistake then later confess. I believe that Naruto's last words to Sasuke restore her romantic not love because there is no love between her and Sasuke, but it restore her romantic aspiration to try one last time, but in chapter 540 we saw what Kishi did witch her aspiration and the love letter nin, while SS and NH see that as after all she still loves Sasuke in reality the panels was not for that specific reason since most readers after seen her behaviors and Karin's words learn that her feelings for Sasuke are still the same, that Panel was for Sakura to start evaluating that love, to see Sasuke for who is his and at the same time she will think about their history.

While I am desperate to see a NS moment to shut up NH and SS fans mouth, I understand that NS will not get a moment until Naruto and Sasuke fight. But after This currurent of before this match ends against Tobi/Madara, Naruto will hear Kakashi's story, only at that time Naruto will think about his feelings for Sakura, but there is no doubt that if Kishi made the mistake and make Sakura and everyone else arrive at that battle, Tobi will make a reference on Naruto's feelings for her or Sakura will have something to do with Tobi so her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto might be challenge by Tobi, this is hightly unlikeble since I don't believe the Rookies will arrive at this fight but is still a possibility.

So is more believable think Kakashi will be the one to tell Naruto to act on his feelings when he is about to die, if he survives after the fight with Tobi or between is fight with Tobi.

Again I'm not against the Parallels because they help NS a lot, but I reading some comments on NF and them this comment on DA about NS http://browse.devian...rusaku#/d5ed492 it made me think that he was right NS doesn't really need any parallels since it's the only pairing that depends on itself, one Panel with Naruto thinking about is feeling for Sakura and one Panel with Sakura saying that her feelings for Naruto are real and she wants to explore them more, something they will both talk about after the war and no one can say that it just happen or dispute it because it was being build up slowly through the Manga.


It doesn't need to have a new NS moment till Naruto and Sasuke fight. There could be a few before that.

How the alliances won't arrive to the fight ? They are on their way to the fight to help this whole time. You mean that the fight will be over and they stop on their tracks and return back.
Kishi have made them go to the battle for nothing in the end ? That would be a plot hole.

Edited by T XD, 11 September 2012 - 09:33 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:44 AM

Lol manga 601 is already out

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:49 AM

it's early not that i'm complaining rolleyes.gif but damn the cliff hangerss....okay i just noticed
rin dies ad she was the medic ,sakura is a medic,tsunade might die too,so is it possible for sakura to....


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 11 2012, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's early not that i'm complaining rolleyes.gif but damn the cliff hangerss....okay i just noticed
rin dies ad she was the medic ,sakura is a medic,tsunade might die too,so is it possible for sakura to....

Surpass the previous generation, that's all I have to say.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:14 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Sep 11 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Surpass the previous generation, that's all I have to say.

Yup, agree and that is one of the reasons too.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:29 AM

Hmm... I just read 601, and it looks like Tsunade is going to die. Sakura's going to surpas her now?

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Sep 11 2012, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm... I just read 601, and it looks like Tsunade is going to die. Sakura's going to surpas her now?


That will be great except the Tsunade dies part. I would like to see Sakura becoming even better than her teacher so the Sakura haters gets even angrier. fu.png
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 11 2012, 06:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That will be great except the Tsunade dies part. I would like to see Sakura becoming even better than her teacher so the Sakura haters gets even angrier. fu.png

Yeah, but still. I think Tsunade is going to use her forbiden jutsu. The one that drains her own life you know? I Forget what it's called...

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 11:53 AM

If tsunade dies it means naruto is about to be the next hokage and sakura needs someone to comfort her(naruto).
So from now on its just a matter of time till next very BIG NS moment. tongue.gif

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:08 PM

you know what bugs me is that we got to see naruto and his reaction about the pervert but now that it's war and the rookies are hedding towards naruto ,sakura and tsunade will never meet ,I was hoping that before she dies she would atleast have an emotional talk with sakura and maybe give her something but unsure.gif who knows..maybe it's still possibel.

Someone here was talking about sakra's year aa in she'll get her moment since kishi said that he forgot her,but I always found that was a hint that he'll always forget about her hm.png

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:30 PM

[quote name='candycane-chan' date='Sep 11 2012, 01:08 PM' post='410597'

Someone here was talking about sakra's year aa in she'll get her moment since kishi said that he forgot her,but I always found that was a hint that he'll always forget about her hm.png
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Omg no thats bullsh$t from now on its sakuras time you will see. Something big is going to happen

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