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#41461 hinataiscreepy

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:18 AM

Kishi mentioned something about Sakura's flashback that would have showed her parents but was deleted. I suspect that it could have been similar to Naruto and sasuke bonding through their loneliness and show a mor indepth reason why Naruto fell in love with her in the first place.

 

I wonder if Kishi intended to show that she never really hated naruto as a kid and felt sympathy for him (his first fight with sasuke fight suggested that she felt bad for naruto when he lost). However, her parents did not let her talk to him.

 

I would not be surprised if Toei and the editors were aware that and did everything in their power to prevent this from seeing cause it would have killed the "hinata was there the whole time" if sakura almost went to to him on many instances (maybe naruto was aware of that) and knew deep down that he really was.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 02:11 PM

Monday  and let not forget about the fanon:

 

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 05:46 PM

Monday  and let not forget about the fanon:

 

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That is so adorable <3


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 06:53 PM

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Some Menma Saku

 

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Sakura: Let’s become a family!

Menma (Naruto): …

Menma (Naruto): Eh? W-why…?

Sakura: Because I love you, Menma. Don’t we want to be happy with the person we love?

Menma (Naruto): *blushing like mad*

Sakura: *determined, clenching a fist* 

 

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:59 PM

Does anyone agree or disagree. I personality think that sakura should haved made up her mind instead up clinging onto an abusive unhealthy with sasuke. She dosen't necessary have to fall for naruto to do that Whats important is that its better for her to standup to herself. As for kishi he really should have not dragged out the love triangle until the very bitter end like that he ruined the believably of all the ships all for the sake of stupid pairing drama. 

 

Moving on is different from suddenly switching to being in love with someone else after being in love with someone for so long. I don’t get how that’s so hard to get.  Sakura hadn’t moved on. She would be basically be going, “Oh, Sasuke, I love you with my entire being.” to “Oh, Sasuke Naruto, I love you with my entire being.” If she was able to suddenly drop her feelings for Sasuke like that, I would say that would ruin her as a character. No one needs a girl like that. Also, her confession happened in relatively chronological close proximity to the invasion of pain arc. She would look like she only wants Naruto because he’s now the hero of the village.  Kishimoto wasn’t saying that Sakura can’t move on. He was saying that she shouldn’t and couldn’t just drop her feelings for Sasuke like they meant nothing and then suddenly rebound to Naruto. I really think that would ruin her integrity as a character.

 

Regardless Sakura's integrity as a character is ruined, there's not even an iota of respect left in her character. It's been trashed. Flushed. Burned to a crisp. 

 

Sakura could've had a good character arc, where she overcome her faults and weakness and realized that the love she had for Sasuke was not only immature and largely selfish, but unreciprocated. Then she could've gradually came to see that love Naruto had for her (or appeared to have at the time, cause apparently that's all red herring BS now) and the love she could have for him was real, selfless love.

 

She didn't even need to end up with Naruto -- I honestly would have just been happy to see Sakura decide enough is enough and realize she, as a person, deserves to be treated better. And then go on to be a happy, successful, single woman. I'm a single woman and very happy not being tied down, I don't feel lonely or like I'm missing out on anything. Being single is great and relationships are not the only way to happiness. I really wish more writers would show that, but Kishimoto's too misogynistic. The man can't write female characters, period -- or write at all haha.



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Posted 23 June 2015 - 12:29 AM

 

Regardless Sakura's integrity as a character is ruined, there's not even an iota of respect left in her character. It's been trashed. Flushed. Burned to a crisp. 

 

Sakura could've had a good character arc, where she overcome her faults and weakness and realized that the love she had for Sasuke was not only immature and largely selfish, but unreciprocated. Then she could've gradually came to see that love Naruto had for her (or appeared to have at the time, cause apparently that's all red herring BS now) and the love she could have for him was real, selfless love.

 

She didn't even need to end up with Naruto -- I honestly would have just been happy to see Sakura decide enough is enough and realize she, as a person, deserves to be treated better. And then go on to be a happy, successful, single woman. I'm a single woman and very happy not being tied down, I don't feel lonely or like I'm missing out on anything. Being single is great and relationships are not the only way to happiness. I really wish more writers would show that, but Kishimoto's too misogynistic. The man can't write female characters, period -- or write at all haha.

I think we all know that I mean this is the guy who said a woman moving on would make them look bad and that no matter what kitten the man has done to them they will have to stick with said man for the rest of their life since well Kishi thinks that low of woman and sadly the Pro enders are the same I mean they too think very low of woman.

 

which is something that I hate and Kishi should be disgusted at even think and saying this to us the readers. But Kishi is simple minded and not that good as you said at doing woman or doing a story I mean I see other japen writers do a far better job with females as I see them grow but do you want to know what is really bad that that is what many don't want now.

 

Yes I mean they hate people who have had a big growth in the story sadly that won't matter as to them they were either a kitten who have no boobs on them this is what the human race has now become, kitten development kitten them growing has a person.

 

NO we want a girl with big boobs that will bend over for the hero and do all that he wants this is what people have become now they all want the same kittening thing a woman that will go yes master.



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Posted 23 June 2015 - 02:39 AM

This is what the true ending should have looked like...

 

 



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Posted 23 June 2015 - 04:08 AM

 

This is what the true ending should have looked like...

 

 

 

Have you check Naomi33 doujin? it a Nejihina and the same time NS.


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 05:16 PM

I think we all know that I mean this is the guy who said a woman moving on would make them look bad and that no matter what kitten the man has done to them they will have to stick with said man for the rest of their life since well Kishi thinks that low of woman and sadly the Pro enders are the same I mean they too think very low of woman.

 

which is something that I hate and Kishi should be disgusted at even think and saying this to us the readers. But Kishi is simple minded and not that good as you said at doing woman or doing a story I mean I see other japen writers do a far better job with females as I see them grow but do you want to know what is really bad that that is what many don't want now.

 

Yes I mean they hate people who have had a big growth in the story sadly that won't matter as to them they were either a kitten who have no boobs on them this is what the human race has now become, kitten development kitten them growing has a person.

 

NO we want a girl with big boobs that will bend over for the hero and do all that he wants this is what people have become now they all want the same kittening thing a woman that will go yes master.

 

It's disgusting that Kishimoto can treat his female characters the way he does and still have people defend him. I hear people say that Kishimoto's views on women are a cultural thing, and I'm sure they are to an extent, but that does not excuse him. It's actually very, very rare that I come across a mangaka who casts their females in such poor light, or so vocally express such terrible, degrading misogynic views. I can't even think one that's nearly as bad, though I'm sure they're out there. 


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 07:16 PM

Still Celious NS doujin:

 

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:47 PM

Kishi mentioned something about Sakura's flashback that would have showed her parents but was deleted. I suspect that it could have been similar to Naruto and sasuke bonding through their loneliness and show a mor indepth reason why Naruto fell in love with her in the first place.
 
I wonder if Kishi intended to show that she never really hated naruto as a kid and felt sympathy for him (his first fight with sasuke fight suggested that she felt bad for naruto when he lost). However, her parents did not let her talk to him.
 
I would not be surprised if Toei and the editors were aware that and did everything in their power to prevent this from seeing cause it would have killed the "hinata was there the whole time" if sakura almost went to to him on many instances (maybe naruto was aware of that) and knew deep down that he really was.


And this would tie up the chapter 3 bench scene. Maputo said as Sasuke that, "It's something that Naruto would say"; meaning the charming forehead comment. Kishi already has the material that Naruto complimented younger Sakura with the forehead comment that never made it to Canon.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 10:32 PM

And this would tie up the chapter 3 bench scene. Maputo said as Sasuke that, "It's something that Naruto would say"; meaning the charming forehead comment. Kishi already has the material that Naruto complimented younger Sakura with the forehead comment that never made it to Canon.

Yesss. And i also believe there is something in the past between naruto and sakura, some flashback that makes naruto fall in love with her, but for some "EVIL" reason SP didn't allow it and it got delete.


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 10:59 PM

Yesss. And i also believe there is something in the past between naruto and sakura, some flashback that makes naruto fall in love with her, but for some "EVIL" reason SP didn't allow it and it got delete.

I belive in that too, but since NS isn't canon, it doesn't happen or matter anymore.

The blame should be give to kishi.

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 11:05 PM

I belive in that too, but since NS isn't canon, it doesn't happen or matter anymore.

The blame should be give to kishi.

I think it still matters. NS not being canon is fine by me, because I would hate to have it be canon in the same way NH or SS is canon. The way I see it, canon is just a word and in this case it's not something good.


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 11:09 PM

I think it still matters. NS not being canon is fine by me, because I would hate to have it be canon in the same way NH or SS is canon. The way I see it, canon is just a word and in this case it's not something good.

Well, it will be matter if NS become canon.
That kind of thing would be brought up if naruto make his confession.

Naruto confession is the climax of the romance of this manga.

And for shipper canon is a big deal.

Edited by rocci, 23 June 2015 - 11:11 PM.


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Posted 23 June 2015 - 11:13 PM

Well, it will be matter if NS become canon.
That kind of thing would be brought up if naruto make his confession.

I think what doesn't matter is the canon. It's completely trashed beyond recognition and I see no reason why that would change if NS was canon. Kishi would again come up with something really pathetic and petty for why Naruto fell in love with Sakura, outside of the rivalry with Sasuke, similar to NH and the guilt-trip genjutsu scene.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 12:28 AM

 

It's disgusting that Kishimoto can treat his female characters the way he does and still have people defend him. I hear people say that Kishimoto's views on women are a cultural thing, and I'm sure they are to an extent, but that does not excuse him. It's actually very, very rare that I come across a mangaka who casts their females in such poor light, or so vocally express such terrible, degrading misogynic views. I can't even think one that's nearly as bad, though I'm sure they're out there. 

True I mean so far I think that Kishi is the worst of all and none will ever go as low as he has done, but you what you said about people thinking Kishi's views are true well sadly Koshoji on DA sees woman as weak and they should not be in the army so, yeah this manga to me is bad and not good for woman at all.



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 02:14 AM

And this would tie up the chapter 3 bench scene. Maputo said as Sasuke that, "It's something that Naruto would say"; meaning the charming forehead comment. Kishi already has the material that Naruto complimented younger Sakura with the forehead comment that never made it to Canon.

 

 

Speaking of chapter 3, I have noticed that when Sakura criticizes Naruto in front of "sasuke". We can't actually see her face when she is saying that naruto is annoying and all. its almost impossible to know if she really means it. When "sasuke" asks her the question she looks a little annoyed and sad to talk about this subject. Its almost as if this is not an easy topic and answers in a form of deniable.



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 08:31 AM

 

 

Speaking of chapter 3, I have noticed that when Sakura criticizes Naruto in front of "sasuke". We can't actually see her face when she is saying that naruto is annoying and all. its almost impossible to know if she really means it. When "sasuke" asks her the question she looks a little annoyed and sad to talk about this subject. Its almost as if this is not an easy topic and answers in a form of deniable.

Yup, whenever around sasuke, thinking/remembering sasuke, hearing sasuke name, that girl just become completely at the lowest of herself, she become stupid, idiot, pretending. Even until now.... how many years have pass she "STILL" doesn't realize that guy is kitten.


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 12:08 PM

Holly kittens, NH and SS are going crazy over my sig at DA 

 

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Yesss. And i also believe there is something in the past between naruto and sakura, some flashback that makes naruto fall in love with her, but for some "EVIL" reason SP didn't allow it and it got delete.

 
It was Kishi's decision and final saying. I know that he "original gave up" and now he's full of "regrets". If he's planning to run this franchise through the ground (not giving NH and SS a proper happy ending). That (my previous post) is going to be the first thing Kishi is going to shove down the SS and NH fandom's throats.
 

Speaking of chapter 3, I have noticed that when Sakura criticizes Naruto in front of "sasuke". We can't actually see her face when she is saying that naruto is annoying and all. its almost impossible to know if she really means it. When "sasuke" asks her the question she looks a little annoyed and sad to talk about this subject. Its almost as if this is not an easy topic and answers in a form of deniable.


Very good point you made. I just realized that now.


Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 24 June 2015 - 12:10 PM.

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