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Posted 18 June 2011 - 08:09 PM

QUOTE (Roxy @ Jun 18 2011, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, can't be helped... but it's kinda great that there are some writers (very few of them, though) that can turn even the most trite and dull scenario into something truly amazing!!

Yep! I agree with you! I wish that most of the writers had that talent...
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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:27 PM

Speaking of clich'e I kind of hope Naruto to end cliche and predicatble cause that's probably the best/most satisfying way to end it.

And were all Narusaku fans here so I was wondering how u feel about other couples in other anime

Like in dbz I really never cared but lately watching kai I kind of wish that Goku got with Bulma.

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Usually I pick the ones that aren't the favorite....Cant think of another right now I'll come back later

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 18 2011, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You probably just missed the development of with Nishino because you were focusing on Toujo. wink.gif
It was a pervy series so in those it's easy to mistake a certain type of interaction for couple development.

It's silly to even think it's going to change with Naruto since Kishimoto made it even more overt where he fully planned to end up with for those that understand manga storylines than Ranma 1/2. Chapter 3 told you all you needed to know on that: Tsundere girl will end up with boy who is in love with her, rather than her unrequited crush.


Oh I know there swas HUGE development with Manaka and Nishino too I remember most of it laugh.gif just Saying that there were an equal amount of shipping fans between manakaXtoujo and manakaXnishino shippers and even the artist thought about pairing up Manaka with Toujo but then then the story progressed and she gradually changed it to Nishino so in the end ManakaXToujo fans were writing complaint letters to her on why she ended with Manaka and Nishino so she explained her reasons more or less with with her ending author's note that just goes to show that stories can change while in progress, besides the tsundere there was actually Kitaoji happy.gif I KNOW Naruto will end with Sakura I'm just explaining that not all shonen romances are quite that simple to Kim but of course they usually are laugh.gif anyways I've been checking around and it appears I was right! sad.gif ch. 540 just DROPPED an atomic bomb on Sakura's character because people are assuming that she's still in love with Sasuke and that she hasn't grown up at all so they are wailing on her character more than than ever arg.gif I was afraid that would happen :cry:but again that is what OTHER people are assuming I know perfectly well Sakura has grown tremendously physically, mentally, and emotionally it just needs to be shown more! smile.gif

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 10:39 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jun 18 2011, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of clich'e I kind of hope Naruto to end cliche and predicatble cause that's probably the best/most satisfying way to end it.

And were all Narusaku fans here so I was wondering how u feel about other couples in other anime

Like in dbz I really never cared but lately watching kai I kind of wish that Goku got with Bulma.

FMAB
Its going to be ed and winry, but I wanted al and winry....probably just cause I am also a younger brother so i like Al better

Usually I pick the ones that aren't the favorite....Cant think of another right now I'll come back later


Ah, vicariousness, I think we've all been there to an extent. I generally don't care about shipping unless it plays a larger role in character development, like in Naruto. I have picked some failed ships in the past, but more because I enjoy the pairing dynamic, rather than actually seeing romantic development. I liked Simon/Yoko on Gurren Laggan, and Suzaku/Kallen on Code Geass (I know, WTH right?), but after a few episodes, it sort of became obvious that those pairings weren't going anywhere. I also have a preferred ship on Bleach, but I'd rather not get into that, since it'll probably take us off topic (IchiHime vs. IchiRuki *gulp*)

Edward/Winry and Goku/Chi-Chi are actually two of my favorite comparisons to pull out when defending NaruSaku. Edward and Winry had that close friend relationship, and have also been pointed out to see each as brother and sister from time to time (I love mentioning that to NHers who make the same claim about Naruto and Sakura). And Goku and Chi-Chi? Out of all the plausible love interests for Naruto, who's personality is the closest the Chi-Chi? Actually one of the reasons I started shipping NS was because I heard Kishi was a Toriyama fanboy.
Although to be fair, I guess Chi-Chi wasn't really a tsundere type till she grew up. She's definitely not Hinata though!

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 10:49 PM

I prefered Lu and Kallen. mellow.gif At least they get to kiss. Lu is such a playboy. Being a revenge-freak really attracts girls huh. I saw the similarities of NS and EW when watching FMAB. But we didn't getting see both of them kiss so I'm hoping it won't be like that.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jun 18 2011, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of clich'e I kind of hope Naruto to end cliche and predicatble cause that's probably the best/most satisfying way to end it.

And were all Narusaku fans here so I was wondering how u feel about other couples in other anime

Like in dbz I really never cared but lately watching kai I kind of wish that Goku got with Bulma.

FMAB
Its going to be ed and winry, but I wanted al and winry....probably just cause I am also a younger brother so i like Al better

Usually I pick the ones that aren't the favorite....Cant think of another right now I'll come back later



Let's not get out of topic ^^

DBZ didn't had any real couples per say...honestly i disliked DBZ after the Cell Arc, it was just too random, coming back from the dead, dying then coming back again...ugh

back on topic, why do most, not all but most NH fans hate Sakura, in a way i find her personality to be the most attractive. A strong sassy woman who can feel compassion but is not overly dependent on others.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:10 AM

^^ Probably, those NH fans just think that A. Sakura is in the way of Hinata to get Naruto, while it is already establish that Naruto loves Sakura and probably can't love anyone else at that level and B. that she hasn't change from her 12-year-old long haired weak Sasuke fangirl, even though that now she is this 16-year-old short haired awesome ass-kicking, always keep Naruto in track to help both of them grow, person. Sure she may seem weaker than Naruto and Sasuke but then again is there anybody stronger than those two, and obviously she's better than the majority of everyone else.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:50 AM

You could say Sakura makes Naruto who he is.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:50 AM

Some shoujo manga break the mold, and some seem to be made out of the factory entirely (Looking at you, Revolutionary Girl Utena.)

But since Naruto is shounen, I suspect it will adhere to the standard Shonen Jump pattern, as exemplified by Ed/Win. (I still feel sorry for Hikaru of Hikaru no Go, who ended up with nobody in canon, leaving fanon pairing wars to last until the end of eternity!)

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 12:51 AM

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You could say Sakura makes Naruto who he is.


Which begs the question, what would Naruto be like if Sakura did not exist and vice versa?

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 02:31 AM

Quite frankly they probably dont like Sakura because (and remember Im a NS fan) she was mean to Naruto, ( I know I know she thought Naruto was picking on her)
Cause she didn't support Naruto from the beginning, she tends to "use" him, but thats just cause shes weaker then him. I guess you could say she gets in the way, maybe cause she liked sasuke and not the main character subconsciously ticked them off.


Now I guess I have to defend Sakura before you guys come at me dry.gif
Like I said she thought Naruto was picking on her
She didnt support Naruto cause she didnt really no him, but clearly stated opening up to him. And its not like Hinata "supported" him, more like obsessing over him from a distance.
It seems like she uses him, but thats just cause Naruto always is there and hes stronger and hes willing to jump in. And cause she is weaker then him then again right now who isnt? tongue.gif Also u would think someone with the bykugan (sp) would be stronger then what hinata is.
And as for the last thing u cant really do anything about that.

P.S I wanted lu and kallen.ichihime,harry and herimone, setsuna and feldt, shinji and asuka ( a clearer ending) plenty of other failed ones....sorry back to topic

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 02:42 AM

Ahhh, but you see with the whole and you quote "she gets in the way, maybe cause she liked sasuke and not the main character subconsciously ticked them off.", it's good character development for the both of them because let's face it those that really grows up aren't what they were at first.

I mean when we first started reading the manga and watching the anime, how many of you guys and put your knowledge of sterotypical anime/manga plotlines aside, believed that Naruto would go from a prank, annoying, brat to the super-cool, powerful, still annoying but hilrious person whose dreams are soon to be realized, and that Sakura would go from this weak fangirl, to the super-strong, actually knows the meaning of love person.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 02:58 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Jun 18 2011, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which begs the question, what would Naruto be like if Sakura did not exist and vice versa?


Maybe he'd have a crush on Ino? Kidding, but I am sort of curious why he started liking Sakura in the first place. Since Kishi based the love triangle on Slam Dunk, maybe it'll turn out she was the one who originally convinced him to become Hokage, sort of like how Haruko inspired Hanamichi to play basketball. Sort of a stretch, but, hey, who knows?

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P.S I wanted lu and kallen.ichihime,harry and herimone, setsuna and feldt, shinji and asuka ( a clearer ending) plenty of other failed ones....sorry back to topic


Umm...Bleach hasn't ended yet. IchiHime is just as alive as IchiRuki, IchiNel, IchiTat, heck even IchiYoru

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 03:01 AM

Well, I think the reason at first Naruto liked Sakura was well she looked unique, I mean a good looking pink-haired girl come on! Then, it was when he henged into Sasuke the real reason why, where they both want to be accepted and appreciated by their crushes, well one out of the two is not bad and it's the one we're rooting for and as times went on they were amazed and complemented on their abilities, and spend a lot of times outside of missions (mainly at the ramen stand where else) to this point.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 04:47 AM

I'm naturally a logical person. And to me, NaruSaku, out of all the possible pairings there could be in the Narutoverse makes the most logical sense. It also gives off that vibe and feeling- that there is a deeper connection between the two characters. Plus, we have the obvious concrete NaruSaku moments, and most of all, we have the development behind the pairing.
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Posted 19 June 2011 - 04:53 AM

Hmmm, question, have you guys ever looked at the NH forums to see what's going and by any chance, are there any discussions as good as this that is logical and makes sense.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 05:16 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Jun 18 2011, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, question, have you guys ever looked at the NH forums to see what's going and by any chance, are there any discussions as good as this that is logical and makes sense.


Depends on what you mean by logical. To different fan bases, logic has taken on multiple definitions. For example, even if there isn't really any development within a pairing (Naruto and Hinata), the smallest of moments (Naruto and Hinata sharing a panel) could be taken as proof of a romantic connection, and they can take those as logical reasons as to why NaruHina will be the canon ending pairing. Of course, every pairing has its own definition of what is the most logical pairing. But to tell you the truth, I'll be biased and simply say this: with basic knowledge of how any novel or story works, you can argue that NaruSaku is the most logical heterosexual pairing in this manga. I say heterosexual because we all know that Naruto and Sasuke have a sort of one-sided bromance going on (this is a joke).

Anyway, what's going on on those forums anyway? fu.png
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Posted 19 June 2011 - 05:17 AM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Jun 18 2011, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm, question, have you guys ever looked at the NH forums to see what's going and by any chance, are there any discussions as good as this that is logical and makes sense.

The words "Naruhina" and "logical" don't belong in the same sentance together...
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Posted 19 June 2011 - 05:21 AM

Would you guys still feel satisfied if Naruto and Sakura ended up together but they didn't kiss even after the series ended like Ed and Winry. Would you be happy with just a photo of them carrying babies with blonde hair and green eyes or pink hair and blue eyes?

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 05:23 AM

They have basically done everything in a romantic relationship except kiss, as for the kids sure I'll be happy for them, btw where the hell is the freakin kiss if there are already children!!!!

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