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[PhenixElite]

That's not necessarily true. Sakura is still Naruto's best friend. He doesn't need to love someone to save them from certain death.

Yeag its true that he would die for every friend but he wouldnt make a promise like bringing back sauke to everyone plus i dont tink if naruto brings back sasuke that sakura would say: "Thanks Naruto and now i go back to Sasuke, who you where trying to bring back the last 4 years and who doesnt even love me".

So likesaid i cant imagine Kishi could do something like this to the main character

[Gravenimage]

Good point.

You know what would have been nice, though very unlikely. I read this from a shoujo manga. Yeah, I know. Anyway, this is only for fun, but it will be funny if she grabs a magazine that has ten questions to see if you're in love with that man. In the other manga, she kept passing the questions and trying to escape because she couldn't believe that she was matching right and got a perfect score, so that means that guy is who she is in love with. It was one to have fun. Again, doubt it will happen, but it will be a funny scenario.

There's already a fan fic about that (don't remember the title). It's about Ino checking the love questions from some magazine and she went with Shikamaru to investigate Sakura depending on each question. I think I should copy and paste this post on the lost and found fics thread.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

There's no surprise here, but you missed the point that she had flashbacks of naruto on a romantic way
http://i24.mangaread...ruto-412541.jpg
acknowleding his feelings but and her last flashbacks were naruto being shown in a good spotlight, if ns will be 100% or not it depends what decision she did after that lover nin scene, the outcome of that will decide if NS will become canon or not.

[kirabook]

Yeag its true that he would die for every friend but he wouldnt make a promise like bringing back sauke to everyone plus i dont tink if naruto brings back sasuke that sakura would say: "Thanks Naruto and now i go back to Sasuke, who you where trying to bring back the last 4 years and who doesnt even love me".

So likesaid i cant imagine Kishi could do something like this to the main character

I was specifically rebuking the comment that Naruto wouldn't risk his life for Sakura if he didn't love her.

[Don-kun]

Still what i replied before and here's the add:



Bolded, that would be illogical and could not happen cause where is that love ? it will be shown to us surprisingly from around the corner ? plus it will not be manga anymore.
There isn't any sign that Naruto moved on from his love for Sakura plus that won't ever happen actually. If it happens then that won't be Naruto that we know and it opposes the way the manga should be.

Well you see, that is not what I want to believe, but I'm more open mind when it comes to those scenario. It's kind of unbelievable that Naruto will get over Sakura since it goes against his character, but at the same time nothing is impossible, about Sasuke the databook said that Sakura fill his lonely existence but he could not let her in, so he could want to kill Sakura all those time because he want to get rid of all bond that are still making him soft, is crazy but the way Kishi story really does not make any sense.

About Hinata, well Lee is a side character, Ino is a side character and Karin, they all love one of the main characters but only Hinata's feelings gets the most focus by Kishi when her role compared to the other one is much smaller.
So it could be that Kish purposely wanted to made her a love hopeless since there is nothing else about her character, or it will show that she is selfish in someway, if she is not destined to end with Naruto.

There's no surprise here, but you missed the point that she had flashbacks of naruto on a romantic way
http://i24.mangaread...ruto-412541.jpg
acknowleding his feelings but and her last flashbacks were naruto being shown in a good spotlight, if ns will be 100% or not it depends what decision she did after that lover nin scene, the outcome of that will decide if NS will become canon or not.

I always believed in NaruSaku, it got strong in the Kyuubi4 scene with Yamato's word let say the arc, but it got a lot stronger from Sakura sadden expression in chapter 442 up until 469, I just cannot believe that after Sai's word to Sakura, she will just lie to Naruto about her feelings for him, that's wrong in so many levels and want to believe that Naruto will make an empty promise about confessing to her when he saves Sasuke, but after 540, 558, 559, 573, I just want to see something that gives NS some life, parallels, filler, OP ED, Movie, Poster, Video games, are all nice but we need something in the Manga to bring down the Opposition back to earth and they can finally stop harassing NS fans.

Edited by NS means logic, 10 September 2012 - 08:07 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I was specifically rebuking the comment that Naruto wouldn't risk his life for Sakura if he didn't love her.

naruto always risk his life for a friend, he wont do it just because he loves her, risking a life to protect a friend is one of the jump shounen manga laws.

[PhenixElite]

Kishi shall do what he wants to, but if he makes sakura get with sasuke, its the BIGGEST BULLSH*T ive ever seen in my entire life and i will stop supporting any romance in the manga and would only keep reading because of the action!!!!

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kishi shall do what he wants to, but if he makes sakura get with sasuke, its the BIGGEST BULLSH*T ive ever seen in my entire life and i will stop supporting any romance in the manga and would only keep reading because of the action!!!!

There's no reason for her to get with sasuke, but if he do he will simply admit that he's a bad writer not concerning about pairings but because he gives a full development and draw sakura to be the same as part 1, the sakura haters will rejoice and he will destroy the character that he say he "likes".

[Don-kun]

Kishi shall do what he wants to, but if he makes sakura get with sasuke, its the BIGGEST BULLSH*T ive ever seen in my entire life and i will stop supporting any romance in the manga and would only keep reading because of the action!!!!

Agree he can do what he wants, but that is just too much, is like telling the readers that hard work, dedication, respect, care, are just pointless a girl should always keep loving the guy who never loved her, hurt her the most, treating to kill all her love ones and try to kill her many times because he was her 1st crush, it doesn't make any sense. Acceptance and moving on is not an option you must always keep loving your 1st crush.

But this is Kishi after all I don't remember reading a story where the Author treated the female lead so poorly, while neglecting her because she isn't the fans favorites instead of making her a bad ass in every arc so the fans can respect her and learn to love her again.

[Transformers03]

Well you see, that is not what I want to believe, but I'm more open mind when it comes to those scenario. It's kind of unbelievable that Naruto will get over Sakura since it goes against his character, but at the same time nothing is impossible, about Sasuke the databook said that Sakura fill his lonely existence but he could not let her in, so he could want to kill Sakura all those time because he want to get rid of all bond that are still making him soft, is crazy but the way Kishi story really does not make any sense.

About Hinata, well Lee is a side character, Ino is a side character and Karin, they all love one of the main characters but only Hinata's feelings gets the most focus by Kishi when her role compared to the other one is much smaller.
So it could be that Kish purposely wanted to made her a love hopeless since there is nothing else about her character, or it will show that she is selfish in someway, if she is not destined to end with Naruto.




I always believed in NaruSaku, it got strong in the Kyuubi4 scene with Yamato's word let say the arc, but it got a lot stronger from Sakura sadden expression in chapter 442 up until 469, I just cannot believe that after Sai's word to Sakura, she will just lie to Naruto about her feelings for him, that's wrong in so many levels and want to believe that Naruto will make an empty promise about confessing to her when he saves Sasuke, but after 540, 558, 559, 573, I just want to see something that gives NS some life, parallels, filler, OP ED, Movie, Poster, Video games, are all nice but we need something in the Manga to bring down the Opposition back to earth and they can finally stop harassing NS fans.

Yeah, that's how I feel about Hinata too.

On a said note, I do agree with what you are saying, how we need something to happen in the manga rather than just the movie, OPs EDs, videogames, and etc. But you just need to ask yourself 'why'? Why would most of the outside media will primary show the Narusaku pairing, if that's not direction the series is planning to go? Why would Kishi even add some romantic implications in the movie he was in charged with (i.e. the bridal save, the date tease, etc...), if he doesn't plan to have those mean anything, as if they were pointless? Why would Kishi go through all the trouble of showing parallels and other hints about Narusaku, if he doesn't plan to end it with Narusaku? Why wouldn't he give that much effort into putting parallels and other hints for the other pairings, if they are the ones that are suppose to happen?

[PhenixElite]

Yeah, that's how I feel about Hinata too.

On a said note, I do agree with what you are saying, how we need something to happen in the manga rather than just the movie, OPs EDs, videogames, and etc. But you just need to ask yourself 'why'? Why would most of the outside media will primary show the Narusaku pairing, if that's not direction the series is planning to go? Why would Kishi even add some romantic implications in the movie he was in charged with (i.e. the bridal save, the date tease, etc...), if he doesn't plan to have those mean anything, as if they were pointless? Why would Kishi go through all the trouble of showing parallels and other hints about Narusaku, if he doesn't plan to end it with Narusaku? Why wouldn't he give that much effort into putting parallels and other hints for the other pairings, if they are the ones that are suppose to happen?

I also still believe in Kishi because i know hes planning something about NS. From episode 1 its just predictable but he needs to troll us so its not getting boring and to stretch the whole story.
It would be just to fast if NS would be canon from beginning of part 2 so he just gives hints and then he trolls us again to make it exciting.
I think after the war smth. big is going to happen. 2012 wasnt Sakuras year like Kishi said in an interview but 2013 sakura will go on i think.

So just have to wait till badass Obito and Madara getting nuked away

[Transformers03]

I also still believe in Kishi because i know hes planning something about NS. From episode 1 its just predictable but he needs to troll us so its not getting boring and to stretch the whole story.
It would be just to fast if NS would be canon from beginning of part 2 so he just gives hints and then he trolls us again to make it exciting.
I think after the war smth. big is going to happen. 2012 wasnt Sakuras year like Kishi said in an interview but 2013 sakura will go on i think.

So just have to wait till badass Obito and Madara getting nuked away

Oh, I also totally forgot to add what will been the point of chapter 3, where Naruto (disguised as Sasuke) said the things that Sakura wanted Sasuke to say to her. I'm sure if Sasusaku happens, than that scene was to obviously show that Sasuke likes Sakura for who she was since the beginning...........wait.............

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Oh, I also totally forgot to add what will been the point of chapter 3, where Naruto (disguised as Sasuke) said the things that Sakura wanted Sasuke to say to her. I'm sure if Sasusaku happens, than that scene was to obviously show that Sasuke likes Sakura for who she was since the beginning...........wait.............

why you guys keep bringing this, in any of the sasuke's flashbacks she remembers of this scene and is quite obvious that this set-up was broken after sasuke calls her annoying, when sasuke arrives she was thinking he was weird and the scene that she falls in love happens when she was a kid and was telling ino that she was in love with sasuke.

that scene had nothing romantic it was quite obvious that it was a comic scene.

Second the most retarded thing is naruto knows that sakura loves sasuke, but despite this he stills pursue her love, the most retarded thing is why he would stop loving her? he pursued it when sasuke was on the village and despite the two times that she shows love towards sasuke, naruto did not give up, kishi must be trolling if in the end he put naruhina and as a excuse with naruto giving up on sakura it would be a mindkitten over 9000, because if he wanted naruhina happen he could make it on part 1.

Edited by dovahkiin, 10 September 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[candycane-chan]

Oh, I also totally forgot to add what will been the point of chapter 3, where Naruto (disguised as Sasuke) said the things that Sakura wanted Sasuke to say to her. I'm sure if Sasusaku happens, than that scene was to obviously show that Sasuke likes Sakura for who she was since the beginning...........wait.............

i see what you did there
PhenixElite when did he ever talk about SAKURA'S year,i'm sure i would've heard about it if it was true

[T XD]

Well you see, that is not what I want to believe, but I'm more open mind when it comes to those scenario. It's kind of unbelievable that Naruto will get over Sakura since it goes against his character, but at the same time nothing is impossible, about Sasuke the databook said that Sakura fill his lonely existence but he could not let her in, so he could want to kill Sakura all those time because he want to get rid of all bond that are still making him soft, is crazy but the way Kishi story really does not make any sense.

About Hinata, well Lee is a side character, Ino is a side character and Karin, they all love one of the main characters but only Hinata's feelings gets the most focus by Kishi when her role compared to the other one is much smaller.
So it could be that Kish purposely wanted to made her a love hopeless since there is nothing else about her character, or it will show that she is selfish in someway, if she is not destined to end with Naruto.

I understand that the story is complicated especially from the drama and romantic side and cause is on slow continuation but if you keep asking these questions, of course the story won't make any sense to you and you have to remember that it's a story with ideas that a writer had chosen to be accepted in a manga.

I told you why Hinata's feelings gets more focus than most of the other side characters and it's because she's interested in the protagonist and a side character interested in a protagonist could give him/her more panels than the other side characters about his/her feelings, and the focus on Hinata from the moment that she told naruto that she loves him is the beginning of the closure of her interest in Naruto, as she could move on in the future or just understand the situation, so you'll see Hinata a little bit more in the upcoming chapter.

Agree he can do what he wants, but that is just too much, is like telling the readers that hard work, dedication, respect, care, are just pointless a girl should always keep loving the guy who never loved her, hurt her the most, treating to kill all her love ones and try to kill her many times because he was her 1st crush, it doesn't make any sense. Acceptance and moving on is not an option you must always keep loving your 1st crush.

But this is Kishi after all I don't remember reading a story where the Author treated the female lead so poorly, while neglecting her because she isn't the fans favorites instead of making her a bad ass in every arc so the fans can respect her and learn to love her again.

You have to remember that there's the drama side so you'll have to see characters sticking in their romantic life.

Many fans don't know Sakura's character which is a tsundere and that why she's treated like this and mostly because they don't like her with Naruto or cause she hits him which is the only reason that most bashers claims. Obviously, they're beginners in manga or don't know much of manga.
I don't think Hinata's love will be brought up again as in she talks about it, only if she talks it with Naruto and to deal with her, and her love could be shown as selfish cause it's a way to the last step of her closure in her interest in Naruto.

Edited by T XD, 10 September 2012 - 09:47 PM.

[PhenixElite]

i see what you did there
PhenixElite when did he ever talk about SAKURA'S year,i'm sure i would've heard about it if it was true

He never talked about sakuras year. He said in the 2012 interview that sakura slipped his mind so i this year wasnt her year. I personaly think that 2013 is going to be her year now.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He never talked about sakuras year. He said in the 2012 interview that sakura slipped his mind so i this year wasnt her year. I personaly think that 2013 is going to be her year now.

no he never said something concerned about sakura's year, before her confession kishi said he was going to draw her more, in that interview someome asked when sakura was going to show up and he replied saying that she had slipped his mind.

[PhenixElite]

no he never said something concerned about sakura's year, before her confession kishi said he was going to draw her more, in that interview someome asked when sakura was going to show up and he replied saying that she had slipped his mind.

Thats what i just said 2012 wasnt her year we have seen her about 3 times.

But next year i think/hope we are going to see sakura a lot more than the last

[TouKen4Life3g]

Glad I return here. Guess I shall express my opinion.

Okay, let me say this. This is my only opinion. I don't think this whole pairing war should be complicated as Kishi is making out to be. Again, I see Hinata's role heavily exaggerated. She just got her needed development. That's all. Yes, I understand that she said that line from the last time we saw her. I am telling you now: this is a make it or break it. To me, it's heading to break it. I'm getting tired of that excuse with "Everyone should be paired." Okay, but what about the other side characters? Heck, I didn't know Lee still love Sakura (judging from that shocking face when Sakura confess). Ino still likes Sasuke and to be honest, I can't dismiss Karin's part as well. Now that she's an Uzumaki, if Kishi needs her to be pair with anyone, then Sasuke sounds the best. Again, not saying he will be paired with, because he can stay alone. Hinata may get the focus out of the side characters, but there's always alternative for her using her feelings. Like I said earlier, she can pass the torch to Sakura if she truly realizes that Naruto loves her. That or she will talk to Naruto about his feelings for Sakura, knowing that he should confess before it's too late. Again, this is her final shot.

Now, let's look at this realistically. Why on earth Kishi make all those panels with her smiling at Naruto, as well as Naruto smiling at her. Why we need to be reminded about his feelings for her in the flashback? Why the obvious parallels? Why we needed to know how Kushina fell in love with Minato, which ended up being a parallel? Why we needed that small Shikamaru's argument about why his dad married his mom knowing that she's troublesome? Why no love support for Sasuke in his journey? Why Itachi didn't give him advice on love? Why everyone who connects to Naruto (Jiraiya) has to mention love failure (now recent Obito)? Why not connect to Sasuke? Why go over Sakura's feelings in Heaven/Earth bridge? Why leave the sentence incomplete from Yamato? Why always draw the crowd seeing the hug as romantic? Why not Hinata doing that moment to gain the momentum? Why no support on both girls? Why only support on Naruto (Jiraiya, Minato, coming soon Obito)? Why Naruto should give up on Sakura if he's not a quitter!? Why Kishi made a movie to show the bonds between Naruto/Sakura and not anyone else? Why Sakura should go with Sasuke, which would consider Sasuke's victory over Naruto, and they're rivals?

I can go with the question, but if you can answer all of them and still feel doubt on NaruSaku, well I pray the last moment of Hinata will finally calm down the storm. Oh, btw, if you really think Kishi will go down a unpredictable route, Tobi says hi. Minato also says hi. It doesn't matter about the predictability. What matters is to tell a great story. There is so many wrongs with NaruHina/SasuSaku.

This doesn't count but it does beg the question. All medias has acknowledged NaruSaku in many forms. The video games for example acknowledged the hug, but not Hinata's confession. Why is that? Maybe because, oh I don't know, it's not related to the plot. Also, they even made an extra ending to the Kage Summit Arc by having Naruto and Sakura sitting in the field, which then they proceed to walk together alone. Yes, I know, only the manga counts. BUT! This does beg the question. Why media (anime, games, etc) see NaruSaku as a final pairing if the manga could go with others? Is it because it's obvious? Do they know from Kishi himself? Won't it look awkward to see them wrong in the end? NaruHina fanservices can easily get away with this because Naruto NEVER show any romance feelings. SasuSaku stays degrading (for example, in the game, Sasuke went straight for the kill in no less than a minute). NaruSaku continues to receive the support. But again, why?

So yeah, there's my rant. I hope you have second thought. Trust me, I can't wait for this whole fiasco with Hinata ends. Once she is dealt with, it's pretty much seal. And we still don't know what will happen to Karin with Sasuke. Anything can happen there. So yeah, I can go on, but first, I shall wait for your thoughts. Have a good day.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 10 September 2012 - 10:33 PM.

[candycane-chan]

/\ great rant well yeah hinata's rol was always exaggerated not just because her interest is naruto but because she's cute,you mentioned lee,let's be honest he' .....not the looker (sorry lee) and i bet you that if he was there would have been alot of fans supporting them because lee and sakura are almost like naruto and hinata ,remember when lee protected her and confessed like hinata did.sakura looked at him in another manner after that she even bought him flowers ( she' so sweet with him like in that movie one-shot) she even hit naruto when he insulted him ,so does that mean that she loves him ,,...no..and acually i always saw what sakura does for lee more significent to what naruto does for hinata ....and leesaku is also under rated because lee is a boy and like we mentioned here before alot of people take the girl's feelings and not the boy's *cough*sexist*cough*.

And i can't answer your questions

yes even in the games and other media NS is the focus hell i've never saw any anime magazine or something talking about NH ( but it could be due to their little number of panels and because naruto loves sakura).and i was surprised when he (sasuke) went to kill her in the game he acually called her useless and

Edited by candycane-chan, 10 September 2012 - 10:25 PM.