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[Metalhead87]

 

Good for you  . To be honest this Naruto stuff totally made me lost fate in manga and mangakas in general  its just all have become huge business  and not about the story itself   and with SJ who is in deep kitten  bc of lack of good stories the future isn't looking bright which makes me worry . Its definitely not a good sign for future mangakas who want to tell their story and stay true to it not just sell it . 

 

Thanks! 

 

It's certainly going to be an uphill struggle for people aspiring to tell their stories through the medium, that's for sure. These companies are always going to be searching for the next big thing, and even if someone presents a good story that ticks the right boxes, it may be at the wrong time and be declined still. It really makes you wonder when seeing the mangaka's name on the front cover of a manga volume just how many people are truly involved.

[luffyq1]

when i think about his disgusting view on women and relationships it doesn't surprise me to know that his marriage is failing.

[Strangelove]

Anyway...It was tweeted from a japanese fan during the Q & A - Jump Festa: 来年公開のNARUTOの映画はボルトとサスケが活躍する物語

(In next year's Naruto movie release, Bolt and Sasuke play active roles in the story.)
サスケの活躍をきっちり描いた映画にしたい (Kishimoto: "I want Sasuke's role to be closely depicted in the movie".). I don't think it's gonna be narusasu because he stated here:
ナルトは後でいいところを持っていくみたいな。
(Naruto afterwards, at the right moment, takes itaway (from Bolt and Sasuke)...something like that") So i doubt naruto plays a cameo role in Boruto's movie.

 

In other words, Naruto's role is over...now is time for Bolt the new chosen one, and CUTIEPRETTYLOVELYSEXYHUNKYMANLYSAUCE. *Sasuke gets shot by Riza Hawkeye, I celebrate.

[Nostradamus]

Like I said  Naruto should be given as a final exams in university/college  for literature  for the subject of "How not to Write"    You pass this test and you are good to go LOL XD

 

 

Ok students today's lesson about writing. Today's lesson is about how not to write fiction. You'll learn everything that you'll ever need to know about today's subject from one single story. Yes it's hard to believe that just one story has all the ingredients that you'll ever need to know. But such a story exists.

 

Now this story is over it's no longer being published because the ending and the continuation were so bad that people that actually followed the story for more than 15 years started to return their volumes back to the publisher or the places they bought them from.

Such a thing has never happened before in history. That alone should make you understand why this story is a must read for us today.

And that story is "Naruto - tales of the biggest scumbag that ever walked the earth".

 

 

where the kitten are all my likes at?

They left just like logic left this "ending".

[Michi]

lol kishi's marriage failing. waw karma is awesome over there!. glad he's in a bad lifestyle he deserves it. who knows he probably ruined sakura, and naruto's bond because he compared himself to Naruto, and sakura to his wife, and he cant hate on her so he's taking his pain out on narusaku, and his fanbase.

Well, I did read somewhere that he chose NH for "personal reasons" ...(apart from being a kittening sellout)

Edited by Michi, 27 December 2014 - 10:33 PM.

[DeathGodMack]

Anything new?
 
Honestly i might tolerate NH more if Sakura had died at some point in the war(with them saying how much they love each other), provided that they dont delve into the realm of inconsistency and stupidity by claiming that Naruto only loved Sakura for superficial reasons. Hinata would come to Naruto in his time of grief and throughout her comforting him, he could come to appreciate her for the support she has provided. A perfect moment for this was when Naruto had Kurama extracted from him. Sakura could of used that jutsu Lady Chiyo used to save Gaara on Naruto.
In that scenario, the bond shared between Naruto and Sakura remains in tact while the horror show known as SS never sees the light the of day. Its morbid, yes, but I believe that a selfless sacrifice for Sakura would have been preferable to the ending were seeing today. 

I'd probably cry even more to this ending.

I cried for 3 hours when I saw the last chapter because it was pure bullsh**. LOL

But if Sakura would've died...I would've just cried on how kittening tragic that would be.

Just kidding, I'd probably died with her.

This would of made nh more tolerable and less out of left field.

[AHK]

Well, I did read somewhere that he chose NH for "personal reasons" ...(apart from being a kittening sellout)

What are you babbling? It was for personal reasons. He personally accepted all the money they gave him to ruin his story

Ehh. Just had to reference Ace's techniques on the one piece wiki for my fic. I miss Ace so much

[Chatte]

I actually did like her in Pt 1 as well...

Edited by Chatte, 27 December 2014 - 10:42 PM.

[FireFox]

 

Thanks! 

 

It's certainly going to be an uphill struggle for people aspiring to tell their stories through the medium, that's for sure. These companies are always going to be searching for the next big thing, and even if someone presents a good story that ticks the right boxes, it may be at the wrong time and be declined still. It really makes you wonder when seeing the mangaka's name on the front cover of a manga volume just how many people are truly involved.

Exactly its just simply sends a bad message for those who aspire to write , it just goes to tell you how big companies and money can be contagious and destroy something beautiful  as literature ugh! Its a damn shame really sign .

 

Ok students today's lesson about writing. Today's lesson is about how not to write fiction. You'll learn everything that you'll ever need to know about today's subject from one single story. Yes it's hard to believe that just one story has all the ingredients that you'll ever need to know. But such a story exists.

 

Now this story is over it's no longer being published because the ending and the continuation were so bad that people that actually followed the story for more than 15 years started to return their volumes back to the publisher or the places they bought them from.

Such a thing has never happened before in history. That alone should make you understand why this story is a must read for us today.

And that story is "Naruto - tales of the biggest scumbag that ever walked the earth".

 

 

They left just like logic left this "ending".

Perfect !!! What  a beautiful introduction & presentation       

 

" How not to write fiction "  Written by Dr.Nostradamus and H&E community     

[Michi]

I actually did like her in Pt 1 as well...

..yeah not gonna lie. I did too.

Lol but not in the beginning where she was a fangirl.

More like later in part one..obviously.

Her part 1 character is better than hinata's character will ever be.

[AHK]

I have a question for the guys, yes the men. LOL

What made you guys like Sakura?

Cause I know y'all didn't stand her ass in part one. (8 LOL (I didn't either)

I'm really curious. Cause two of my male cousins that are naruto fans are both hinata fanboys. ..they are a disgrace to my family.

I liked her for a couple reasons. I liked that she was the normal girl that had a normal background, and had to struggle to achieve any kind of relevancy because she didn't have a pair of broken eyes to leach off of. I liked her because she (when away from Sasuke, thus allowing her real personality to come forth) was loud, brash, smart, funny, caring, and outgoing. I liked her in part one, when she wasn't fangirling. And them damn eyes. I'm a sucker for eyes.

[Metalhead87]

I have a question for the guys, yes the men. LOL

What made you guys like Sakura?

Cause I know y'all didn't stand her ass in part one. (8 (I didn't either)

I'm really curious. Cause two of my male cousins that are naruto fans are both hinata fanboys. ..they are a disgrace to my family.

 

I guess it would have to be her heart. Regardless of what it is, she puts her all into her endeavours, and she has a large capacity for compassion. Even when she didn't like Naruto as much, she still wanted to protect his dream and support him. She also has a lot of fire inside of her, she's very passionate about what she believes in and those she cares about. I wasn't too fond of her at the start when I first tried to get into the series, but my knowledge of manga and anime in general at the time was pretty poor. The second time I tried, I absolutely fell in love with her lol.

 

She isn't perfect, but that's what makes her so lovable, you know? I may have to think some more on this lol

[Comy]

Huh? Where did you hear that?

 

Konoha'sCrimsonFox came up with the news  

[FireFox]

I have a question for the guys, yes the men. LOL

What made you guys like Sakura?

Cause I know y'all didn't stand her ass in part one. (8 (I didn't either)

I'm really curious. Cause two of my male cousins that are naruto fans are both hinata fanboys. ..they are a disgrace to my family.

The same reason I loved Naruto XD . They turned out from small selfish brats who didn't understand anything  to these loving caring  selfless dorks full with compassion  gradually working their way out in this ninja world by both working hard and inspiring each other , working to reach their dreams  trying to make something of themselves and change the world for the better  .  

 

To me both Naruto and Sakura were the same something that Kikitten  used to show us  by comparing them non stop  its a shame he totally f**cked them up in the end  and I will never forgive this sick kitten for that  sign .  

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 27 December 2014 - 10:55 PM.

[Otaru]

@PrincessIris Thank you for this infos. I'm very glad to have it. Were you at Jump Festa or ? Where did you get all this informations please ?
 

Junko Takeuchi's impressions on the last chapter: "Finally, Sasuke spoke quite a lot" (Laugh).* Kishimoto on Kakashi becoming Hokage, why he didn't get his Sharingan back, he said: "The only one to lead/guide Sasuke and Naruto was Kakashi. A person with the strength to lead (others) from that could have become Hokage. So the Sharingan was not needed. "

IMO, Kakashi wasn't the "only" one to guide Naruto and Sasuke. To me, this explanation is very poor. I have no problem with Kakashi being the Rokudaime, but I don't understand Kishi's explanation at all.
 

He also strongly contemplates that He (Kakashi) was charismatic as a teacher.*

Yes Kakashi was very charismatic IN THE BEGINNING. And then he let him down. He made him less badass because he was supposedly "too" popular in comparison with Naruto. (But the fact that Hinata was too popular in comparison with Sakura, the main heroine, never bothered him). Maybe it's because he was too popular that Kakashi stopped being the copy ninja. Because I'm sorry, but he used his copy talent only against Zabuza.
 

The character that was the hardest to draw/depict was Sasuke.

I thought it was the girls... it's just me or he never stop changing his answers ?
 

* In next year's Naruto movie release, Bolt and Sasuke play active roles in the story.* There are 2 pages added in Naruto volume 72.* It looks like, There are 19 pages of Naruto manga in the 2 special books of Naruto exhibitionnext year (February 5, 2015). The "Book of Wind" (about naruto) and "The Book of Thunderbolt" (about sasuke). These two novels will be written by Akira Higashiyama (the one who wrote Blood prison and Tale of Gutsy Ninja).* A Japanese fan tweeted: "The entire story was decided since (Part 1?) of the Valley of the End."* Kishimoto mentioned that there was no real point to drawing the Hyuuga clan with the Byakugan.*

What ? Is he talking about Hinata's children ? Or about the Hyuuga clan in general ? Because the second after he's talking about the children. I don't understand.

 

Kishimoto said, " Deciding on the names (of the children), I chose whatever was appropriate."* Kishimoto says that Himawari's name origin was appropriate.

It feels like he chose in a hurry LOL
 

Should have been along the theme of the Hyuuga which reads a bit like "Sunny/Sunshine" via kanji.* One Japanese fan tweeted: "No one asked about whether or not Sasuke has an arm."*

Ok...
 

The Naruto who's shown the movie with short hair was originally intended to be part of his design for the third instalment of Naruto.*

 
What ? What is supposed to be the "third instalment of Naruto" ?

 

What's changed for Kishimoto from start of series to now? He says the answer seems a bit dirty, but it's money. And also hair thinning.*

Well, we noticed. LOL
IMO it's obvious any young mangaka will gain more money with a first successful manga, but the sole fact that Kishi talked about it in first, is proving that's his first goal. MONEY.
He could have talked about anything. He could have talked about the time he spend with his family, celebrity... anything. He could have talked about Naruto's story, and what he expected about it in the beginning and confront it with what he expect now. But he chose to talk about money because the first thing that came to his mind was money.

 

Kishi did mentioned that he like Sakura more than Hinata. In the Kobayashi interview, he said he did have a Sakura bias, because he liked her character and tried to make her pretty and popular.* A Japanese fan tweeted that Kishimoto now claims he likes sakura more then hinata to which Junko tells him to please be silent already (basically, shut up) on the stage in front of the audience.*

LOL * LOL * LOL
So it's really the truth. Junko shut him up. What a girl. She really has balls. I love her.
It may be true that Kishimoto like Sakura better. I always had that feeling. IMO he likes better frightening women. The truth still is flowing throught all this mess. He can say what he wants now, but what he wrote during 15 years is showing the truth about what he thinks IMO.
So, I can believe easier that he likes Sakura better. But he never had the balls to let her be the real main heroine. And I understand why Junko told him tu shut up. It's because he ruined Sakura. I don't care about his excuses now. And IMO Junko feels the same. She's fed of his poor excuses. He sacrificed Sakura for popularity and that's all.

 

Suddenly at the end, Junko requested, "I want to see Gaara's facial expression when Temari got married"Kishimoto answered: " Well if junko says so, then I'd have no choice but to draw it....".*

This gives me the feeling that Kishi and Junko are in bad terms. Kishi is like "oh god I must agree to what she ask unless she will refuse to voice Bolt in the future".
 

It Seems like there will be another special imageto unlock on the back of the book too. Says it will match the Retsu No Sho. You had to use an app and take a picture of the back with "Sharingan Camera" to get access to the "The Rest" page. More secret content!*

Yeah more bullcrap to buy ! Kishi is like 'Give me more money' / Studio Pierrot is like 'Give us more money !!'
 

Then about the movie version now showing at the theaters. On toneris design : 'a good looking guy shouldering heavy burdens all alone ' he decided the character on the spot during a meeting.

Yeah Kishi we know the song it's always the same you are singing. LOL
 

for the details of the background toneri shoulders, check the novelized version as the film was too short to explain it all.* Kishimoto wanted to put Toneri in the movie again which was rejected by the editor.*

Oh really ? Guess the editor wanted to see Hinata more instead of Toneri. But anyway, Toneri or Hinata, I don't give a kitten.

 

The red muffler in the film was based on kishi's own experience with his wife. Kishi's wife told himto bring the muffler in question to the super stagebut he forgot.*

Well this scarf or muffler mustn't be 'that' important to him if he forgot it. His wife must be happy he forgot it. LOL

 

and Sakura is supposed to look like that of an older sister.*

Older sister for who ? Hinata-hime ? Naruto ?
 

There was an alternative path for Part III, but he decided on the mini-series in April (BTW, is it coming in April, or is that just a rumor?).* The First trailer of Storm 4. Storm 4 Developer cosplaying as Madara Uchiha whole promoting the game.*

Are you talking about that 'new era' thing ? I'm not sure to understand.
 

Kish really wanted to show kiba and choji active in the last but he couldnt, again due to the film length. the novel version covered them instead.*

'Due to the film length' ???? What bullsh** lol !!! The film length is already full of Hinata-hime that's why LOL.
 

There was mentioned that SJ editor wanted Narusaku to be the endgame but Kishi choose Naruhina due to personal reason.*

 
Oh god WHAT THE HELL ??? What a precious pearl we have here. I mean...

W H A T. T H E. F U C K I N G. H E L L ????

 

Nana mizuki will be played again for the role of Himawari*

VA (except Nana) are not happy in the ending chapter of Naruto and "The Last" movie. They thought team 7 would unite and fight again especially in the Last Movie but they didn't.*

LOL yeah tell me more about that !!!!! What a surprise !!!!!!! LOL
Will Himawari have big boobs too in the future ? LOL

LOL. LOL. LOL.
All seiyuus are unhappy EXCEPT Nana !!! I can't stop laughing right now. LOL
Yes they are right Team7 should have been the focus of this movie !!
 

There's no mention about sarada and sasusaku in Boruto's movie

Hell no, I guess they just want a Naruto clone to start over the franchise again.

Edited by Otaru, 28 December 2014 - 12:31 AM.

[starlitestarbrite]

I now wonder if the last had another plot cause: 1-kishi had to change the script, 2- and all the narusaku teasers. so, i'm thinking the last: Naruto the movie had a very different plot but, i'm not sure. that's the only way I can make the twisted NH logic, and trolling the NS fans' make since.

Edited by starlitestarbrite, 27 December 2014 - 11:09 PM.

[Hiyuusha]

LEGASP. Guys. I just had a horrible, terrible thought.

Sasuke won.

It was all part of his plan. I see that now. He KNEW he wouldnt be able to kill Naruto, so he put forth the most dastardly plan ever into existence. It was so simple. Remember that Genjutsu Sakura was put in with the Chidori? Yeah, she's still in it. So much so, that it returned her to the sniveling fangirl from part 1. The reason for this?
Sarada.
Sasuke needed a child to complete his plan with, but more to the point, Naruto needes a kid too, but Sakura obviously wasnt an option anymore, so that only left one viable option - Hinata. Sasuke was no fool. He knew that Naruto's little stalker still carried a torch for him, despite how obviously in love Naruto was toward Sakura. So Sasuke but forth his second plan,a plan involving Gen!Sakura telling Naruto to get over her so he could move in on Hinakittens. Unfortunately, this chance never happened, but miraculously, THE LAST did it for him. With Naruto now stupidily believing he only loved Sakura out of some rivalry issue, Sasuke was finally able to Genjutsu everyone into believing he and Hinata got married, with Hinata going along with his plan because she wanted Narukitten. *see wedding pictures*
Sasuke took Sakura, and all was well.

Some years later the last part of his plan was finally ready. With Naruto in a loveless marriage as Hokage and saddled with kids, he simply didnt have the time to deal with Sasuke as he used to. It was during this time that Sasuke knew it was time to strike. Leaving his new daughter Sarada in the mother's care after putting the Kyuubi in a genjutsu sleep, he set out ti destroy the Biju, using his Sharingan to make sure they wouldnt go running to Naruto via mental links. With a majority of them dead and gone, he turned his attention to the last phase of his plan, assimilating the Uzumaki genes into his family. Of course, he couldnt do this himself. He was no Orochimaru, and like Madara, he could wait centuries for his chance. Using genjutsu hacks to make Sarada learn the ways of the stalker from Hinakittens, he had her follow Bolt, the boy alone and forgotten due to his father's unhappy status. In time, Sarada and Bolt's relationship would become like Naruto and Hinata's own, but Sasuke would ensure there would be no Sakura expy to interfere. With that done, Bolt and Sarada would have a powerful child - who Sasuke would quickly endow with the curse of hatred. Naruto's own family would be his downfall, all because he fell for a stupid, stupid line about loving peeps because of rivalry.

[Comy]

I have a question for the guys, yes the men. LOL

What made you guys like Sakura?

Cause I know y'all didn't stand her ass in part one. (8 (I didn't either)

I'm really curious. Cause two of my male cousins that are naruto fans are both hinata fanboys. ..they are a disgrace to my family.

I liked her even in part one, even though she was a SAUCE fangirl.  I liked her personality, the fact that she's also a shy girl, but in a different way from Nardo-kun, I liked the fact she was capable of empathy, compassion and sometimes she used force to show it (because she's embarrassed to do it in public). After all, behind every great man, there is a strong woman...so, no wonder naruto is a scumbag in chapter 700, because he has a woman who all day and all night she keeps knitting scarves.

[FireFox]

This gives me the feeling that Kishi and Junko are in bad terms. Kishi is like "oh god I must agree to what she ask unless she will refuse to voice Bolt in the future".

News Flash she already did Junko is not voicing Burito   despite saying previously in RTN  that she really wants to voice Naruto's son "Shinachiku"  and Kikitten agreeing to it  , well guess what  Junko just did to Kikitten   she gave him this .

[NSmakessense]

I have a question for the guys, yes the men. LOL

What made you guys like Sakura?

Cause I know y'all didn't stand her ass in part one. (8 (I didn't either)

I'm really curious. Cause two of my male cousins that are naruto fans are both hinata fanboys. ..they are a disgrace to my family.

I found Hinata ugly in part 1 and I always found Sakura pretty, even in Shippuden I still think Sakura is prettier than Hinata (and no, it's not because I hate big breasts, for instance, I love Orihime from Bleach and I don't like Rukia, in terms of looks). And the byakugan though... it's cool but not sexy at all XD

 

Edit: Now that I see other people's answers I'm confused. I took it as if you were asking why I like Sakura's looks because you directed the question to males :/ now I don't feel like changing my answer...

Edited by NSmakessense, 27 December 2014 - 11:19 PM.