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#4061 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 12:54 AM

Well in that case I hope they did. 166 was pathetic, Xenata was pathetic. Hell, they made her stronger than Kakashi.
I'm sure editors told them cut it out with the fan service. I find it hard to believe Kishimoto didn't complain about those fillerish episodes, especially 167. It has maybe, the worst animation ever done in the anime history.

Hm, that probably did happen. When I think about it, it's been a while seeing a NH fanservice. Who knows.

 

I think NS will already be canon by the time 615 comes to the anime. The series might even be over, depending on the remaining fillers.

 

Pierrot really belittled this NH moment, and even made Shino recognize Naruto when Hinata was the only one except Sakura and Shizune don't forget the epic narusakushizu moment.

 

Seriously though, even though I don't care for NH moments I wonder how hard can it be to adapt the manga correctly? I think they changed the dialogues too. Feel kinda bad for the NH fans this time. :ermm:

 

First by Kishimoto and now Pierrot. XD This can't end well.

I completely agree.

So wait, they ruined it? How could you mess it up? Exactly how?



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:04 AM

I read that apparently,were the couple that people should feel sorry for. My response to this is laughter. The continued downplay of NS continues to kill me... With laughter.

 

People fail to realize how things have been playing in our favor. No matter what anyone says, this is VERY evident. I've just recently gotten very happy at the thought of Sakura siding with Naruto when it comes down to it. This will likely be different from her doing it before like at the Summit. Realizations may be made with this event. Feelings may be brought to light. I'm so excited. Like, this actually brings a smile to my face. I feel like when Sakura stands for Naruto this time around, it'll be sooooooo damn powerful. Reminscent to her standing to Obito in the movie but so much more special because this time around, it'll be for the guy she loved. The guy she chased for so long. Sakura standing for Naruto's dreams and not wanting to see it get crushed would be perfect here. Since Kishsi is bringing canon moments from Part 1, that'd be a perfect one in my opinion. Its actually funny he's still a genin. B-)


Edited by StriderC, 19 July 2013 - 01:06 AM.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:06 AM

So wait, they ruined it? How could you mess it up? Exactly how?

"The one I want to protect always ends up protecting me" - Hinata's line in the manga

"The one we want to protect always ends up protecting us" - Hinata's line in the anime

 

They also added in Shino there who also defended Naruto, when in the manga only Hinata did. I guess Shino was referring to the recent filler about him.

 

I think Naruto also said something like "Don't look down on yourself, it's not cool". :lol:

 

This was certainly not in the manga.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

This is one way to look at 631: minato_approves_narusaku_by_thefudgy94-d



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:10 AM

Who's the artist of that masterwork, Inferno? :lmao:


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:14 AM

"The one I want to protect always ends up protecting me" - Hinata's line in the manga
"The one we want to protect always ends up protecting us" - Hinata's line in the anime
 
They also added in Shino there who also defended Naruto, when in the manga only Hinata did. I guess Shino was referring to the recent filler about him.
 
I think Naruto also said something like "Don't look down on yourself, it's not cool". :lol:
 
This was certainly not in the manga.


It still doesn't even make up for that unwanted episode of hinata flashbacks during the pain fight. Honestly, I won't even be mad if they downplay 615 in the anime too. They had that moment of glory with those animations.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:16 AM

It still doesn't even make up for that unwanted episode of hinata flashbacks during the pain fight. Honestly, I won't even be mad if they downplay 615 in the anime too. They had that moment of glory with those animations.

Agreed. A whole episode with mostly filler is nothing but ridiculous especially because it was all BS. Making it look like she stood a chance when she didn't. Throwing in those ridiculous flashbacks. It was wayyyyyyy overboard... -_-



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:18 AM

This is one way to look at 631: minato_approves_narusaku_by_thefudgy94-d

 

I highly approve of this art. :thumb:

 

I lol at Sakura" flat-chested" lol I don't think she's that insecure about her breast size, And besides she's not that flat.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:21 AM

I read that apparently,were the couple that people should feel sorry for. My response to this is laughter. The continued downplay of NS continues to kill me... With laughter.

 

People fail to realize how things have been playing in our favor. No matter what anyone says, this is VERY evident. I've just recently gotten very happy at the thought of Sakura siding with Naruto when it comes down to it. This will likely be different from her doing it before like at the Summit. Realizations may be made with this event. Feelings may be brought to light. I'm so excited. Like, this actually brings a smile to my face. I feel like when Sakura stands for Naruto this time around, it'll be sooooooo damn powerful. Reminscent to her standing to Obito in the movie but so much more special because this time around, it'll be for the guy she loved. The guy she chased for so long. Sakura standing for Naruto's dreams and not wanting to see it get crushed would be perfect here. Since Kishsi is bringing canon moments from Part 1, that'd be a perfect one in my opinion. Its actually funny he's still a genin. B-)

 

Strider, this is exactly what I said about how the fans make things harder than it needs to be, when it comes to pairings, people react in ways which are completely skewed offcourse so it basically gives them an explaination or reason why the opposition is wrong. Now as a NS website many would say "But you do the same stuff as the other fandoms, yours is right theirs is wrong" well no, that really comes down to the individual fan and if their explanation is using actual logic and evidence or if its meshed with bias and opinion. Here is what I mean:

 

Claims over NS being dead back in 469 and 615: Our  argument? We have not seen everything for what Sakura did what she did at the time, we didn't see everything revealed towards Naruto, etc, we needed more information just to call everything dead. This is the same in 615, we had a panel with Sakura, something was up with her in that chapter, maybe jealousy or surprised at Hinata? Anyways there never was a granted moment in which Naruto felt to move on from Sakura, the land of iron came and went and he never even paid attention to Hinata even in the downtime before leaving for the turtle island, even then so far nothing has been done with the confession, only a memory of her defending him from pain and thats it, no words nothing.

 

Now in the other case with 631, common reaction is trying to argue that the Sakura=Kushina event is not real, misleading, a joke, etc, its simply meaningless and argued that Naruto is over Sakura despite there being no evidence prior, even then logic for his character would have him forgiving her for her actions especially after Sai told him why Sakura did what she did. As much as fans views were divided in 631, it became harder to believe most arguments after the fanbases who formerly all followed Kushina for Hinata as the parallel, either stopped following Kushina calling her wrong or stating that Sakura is a kushina who cannot work with Minato, or that Hinata is still like Minato despite no relations even being shown or hinted. The sad thing here, this is a manga for middle schoolers, Kishi used the final night of Narutos parents, the scene with Kushinas words as a foreshadow which told why Naruto did some of the things he did and what is still to come, and with the find a girl stuff, well Minato connected Sakura to Kushina, NS is not canon yet but what is canon as of now, Sakura is the only girl let alone person aside from Naruto who has ever been compared to Kushina. The fact that Sakura IS THE ONLY GIRL compared so far should be reason enough to say, perhaps there is something going on here, perhaps Sakura is that girl. Its supposed to be able for them to figure it out yet most of the older audience, its like its apparently more likely that Kakashi would get the rinnegan rather than Sakura being with Naruto in the end.



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

It still doesn't even make up for that unwanted episode of hinata flashbacks during the pain fight. Honestly, I won't even be mad if they downplay 615 in the anime too. They had that moment of glory with those animations.

The way to make up for that filler is to start adapting the manga correctly, not downplay NH moments.

 

The anime should be as close to the manga as possible, sadly this is not the case.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:23 AM

Who's the artist of that masterwork, Inferno? :lmao:

theFudgy94 from deviantart

 

I like 631 but this is the kind of stuff you need to laugh at once in a while, this is how some people basically thought Minato acted at this part but hey, he is the forth hokage, you kinda need to do what he says, he is a village leader.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:28 AM

The way to make up for that filler is to start adapting the manga correctly, not downplay NH moments.
 
The anime should be as close to the manga as possible, sadly this is not the case.


You are right but I still haven't gotten over how fan-service that confession was

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 01:38 AM

"The one I want to protect always ends up protecting me" - Hinata's line in the manga
"The one we want to protect always ends up protecting us" - Hinata's line in the anime
 
They also added in Shino there who also defended Naruto, when in the manga only Hinata did. I guess Shino was referring to the recent filler about him.
 
I think Naruto also said something like "Don't look down on yourself, it's not cool". :lol:
 
This was certainly not in the manga.

Wow, that's surprisingly not damaging. Why? Because it's always meant a friendly term. Though, it is messed up to make it more about all, while true, but this is Hinata in need of development. So, yeah.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:10 AM

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LjQVuU89uco

 

A little off topic: Hey ladygt if you happen to stop by I just want to say that your legend of korra artwork was featured in a video your very very popular!

 

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 02:33 AM

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LjQVuU89uco
 
A little off topic: Hey ladygt if you happen to stop by I just want to say that your legend of korra artwork was featured in a video your very very popular!
 
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Thank you!!!! I submitted that piece for the tumblr fan art contest, I'm surprised they picked it! :D such a great news, thank you!!
 
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:55 AM

When Sasuke said that he will be the one to cut away the old, do u think he was talking to Naruto or Obito?



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:04 AM

I can honestly say I'm not even worried about the pairing wars anymore. It's fairly obvious we won, I mean how many more hints/foreshadowing does Kishi have to throw to fandom for them to get it? :mellow: It was all over as soon as Minato confirmed Sakura was like Kushina and Naruto said she was "more or less" his girlfriend. Naruto confirmed his feelings for Sakura still existed right in front of Hinata, I mean come on. The dude can't just drop his own feelings like that and given how late in the story it is, he's probably not gonna. And Kishi did not have to have Minato think she was like Kushina, it was entirely unnecessary. It serves a purpose, a pairing purpose. Couple that with Kushina's "find a girl like your mother" line and it's foreshadowing in big black letters.

 

Okay yes, NaruSaku isn't canon yet. It still has obstacles of course! Sakura is still struggling with the remnants of her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto most likely doesn't think Sakura loves him the same way. But we still have things in our favor. Sakura does not trust Sasuke and given how he most likely plans to kill Naruto, it's not looking good for her feelings for him. And Naruto has accepted that their relationship is more complicated than friendship, something he was unaware of during the Kage Summit. It's a start to finally breaking Naruto's wall in his mind that says she does not love and will only love Sasuke. This is good, really good. :happy:

 

I don't want Sakura to chose Naruto just because Sasuke still has twisted intentions, but I'm fairly certain she has stronger feelings for Naruto than she does Sasuke. She just has to realize it. See this is where I draw a blank. I know it's gonna happen, but I'm not sure how Kishi will execute it.

 

The dude better do a good job when the moment comes. I don't want it to be half-assed, I want it to be emotional and convincing. Hopefully my faith in Kishi won't be wasted.

 

As for the NaruHina fans, here's a good quote that likely sums up their opinions:

 

"People tend to trust in what they can handle, and rationalize what they can't."


Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 19 July 2013 - 08:07 AM.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:16 AM

I can honestly say I'm not even worried about the pairing wars anymore. It's fairly obvious we won, I mean how many more hints/foreshadowing does Kishi have to throw to fandom for them to get it? :mellow: It was all over as soon as Minato confirmed Sakura was like Kushina and Naruto said she was "more or less" his girlfriend. Naruto confirmed his feelings for Sakura still existed right in front of Hinata, I mean come on. The dude can't just drop his own feelings like that and given how late in the story it is, he's probably not gonna. And Kishi did not have to have Minato think she was like Kushina, it was entirely unnecessary. It serves a purpose, a pairing purpose. Couple that with Kushina's "find a girl like your mother" line and it's foreshadowing in big black letters.

 

Okay yes, NaruSaku isn't canon yet. It still has obstacles of course! Sakura is still struggling with the remnants of her feelings for Sasuke and Naruto most likely doesn't think Sakura loves him the same way. But we still have things in our favor. Sakura does not trust Sasuke and given how he most likely plans to kill Naruto, it's not looking good for her feelings for him. And Naruto has accepted that their relationship is more complicated than friendship, something he was unaware of during the Kage Summit. It's a start to finally breaking Naruto's wall in his mind that says she does not love and will only love Sasuke. This is good, really good. :happy:

 

I don't want Sakura to chose Naruto just because Sasuke still has twisted intentions, but I'm fairly certain she has stronger feelings for Naruto than she does Sasuke. She just has to realize it. See this is where I draw a blank. I know it's gonna happen, but I'm not sure how Kishi will execute it.

 

The dude better do a good job when the moment comes. I don't want it to be half-assed, I want it to be emotional and convincing. Hopefully my faith in Kishi won't be wasted.

 

As for the NaruHina fans, here's a good quote that likely sums up their opinions:

 

"People tend to trust in what they can handle, and rationalize what they can't."

 

As far as the story goes NH and SS are almost extinct but the pairing wars still rage on. The Kushina parallel we won but NH and SS still speculate that a near future moment would bring them back on track.

Things seem calm yet on Tumblr for example there are cases of intentional cross tagging. I check only the NS tag but some SS fan was flooding it with SS fanart that it felt like he tried to brainwash us. But it's just immaturity things for NS right now aren't as fickle as they were after 615. And as for a SS scene on the level of NH's 615 one is highly unlikely and if that happens it will surely become irrelevant after the Sasuke and Naruto fight heat up.

 

But on another note it looks like NS still needs some development far away from the other 2 main pairings to sort their relationship up. It isn't like before, when NS fate was dependent on SS's fate but now it's the other way around.



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:18 AM

Hey guys and girls I am fairly new here. I have actually been stalking this thread since page 7 XD. I just now decided to make an account so I can join in on the conversation sometime. Can't wait to start talking to y'all!



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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:35 AM

 

As far as the story goes NH and SS are almost extinct but the pairing wars still rage on. The Kushina parallel we won but NH and SS still speculate that a near future moment would bring them back on track.

Things seem calm yet on Tumblr for example there are cases of intentional cross tagging. I check only the NS tag but some SS fan was flooding it with SS fanart that it felt like he tried to brainwash us. But it's just immaturity things for NS right now aren't as fickle as they were after 615. And as for a SS scene on the level of NH's 615 one is highly unlikely and if that happens it will surely become irrelevant after the Sasuke and Naruto fight heat up.

 

But on another note it looks like NS still needs some development far away from the other 2 main pairings to sort their relationship up. It isn't like before, when NS fate was dependent on SS's fate but now it's the other way around.

Theres actually nothing that can bring NH and SS back on track, as long as Kishi doesnt decide to go against his story, what leaves the question: WHY SHOULD HE DO THAT?

If he really wanted to make NH or SS canon he would never add moments like Minatos comparison and Yamatos unfinished sentence. 

 

There are maybe some people out there saying that he only compared Kushina to Sakura to troll NS and make the moments some kind of redherring, but something like this cant be a troll since it would have way to many consequences in the end. Everybody would ask why Naruto in the end picked Hinata when his Mother told him to find someone like her and also already found that one.

 

Not to mention that Yamatos unfinished sentence would leave a plot hole forever.


Edited by PhenixElite, 19 July 2013 - 08:37 AM.

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