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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:28 PM

To those who watched the movie:
 
Can someone explain what the kitten happened in the genjutsu scene? It makes absolutely no sense. So it traps the intruder away and shuts them into a world of memories. THAT's how it works. Simple trap, right? A world of their OWN memories, correct? 
 
Alright, so I'm going to assume that the genjutsu is based off of their own memories and they're reliving them again (since they're the same person in that situation, only they're aware that they're in a genjutsu) . This is basically how Naruto's genjutsu goes at first:
 

  • Naruto (as his young self) sitting in the classroom responding to Iruka's question
  • Naruto (as his twelve year old self) about to start his fight with Kiba in the chunin exams 
 
Then we switch over to Hinata. This is basically how her genjutsu goes:
  • Hinata where she thinks about Naruto who's fighting Pain
But wait!
 
The GENJUTSU is TRAPS the user IN A WORLD OF MEMORIES. Hinata is thinking about Naruto and the scarf comes out of Hinata's bag (on it's kittening own. Mind you that this is happening in the real world, not inside the genjutsu. Even so, the genjutsu's purpose is to trap the user in it's own memories, so how the hell is a mere piece of fabric going to connect people's memories in a JUTSU? ) and wrangles itself around Naruto like the tapeworm it is. 
 
Then we have Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. At this point, this is probably where their memories are connected, which allows Naruto to see inside Hinata's memories. So we have this:
 
  • Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. Naruto flys out of scene and it switches over to Pain who grabs Naruto by the neck and throws him into the ground
  • Then we have Hinata who confesses to Naruto (they added the scene where she gets bullied in the movie, btw. Talk about changing the manga :zaru:
  • Then the scene switches to someone asking Hinata who she wants to spend her last day on earth with.
If the genjutsu is supposed to trap you and relive your memories....then how the hell is 19 year old Naruto standing there watching (no one can see him btw)? Isn't he supposed to be the young Naruto sitting with Team 7...? :wot:
 
  • Next up is Naruto watching the ointment scene. 19 year old Naruto watches Hinata give Naruto the ointment. Sakura then appears out of nowhere and tells him he's dense. (Sakura didn't fall into the genjutsu I think)
  • Next scene is Sakura and Hinata walking. Naruto is by the pole listening to their conversation. Sakura boosts Hinata up by telling her she can give Naruto the scarf and to be confident. (Naruto smiles at the end btw. Ugh you're not kittening obligated to return someone's feelings, what the hell!! :mad: )
  • Then we get some random scenes with Hinata going "Naruto, I....". Cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen together. Sakura tells him "you must really love ramen" Then Hinata during her confession saying "Naruto, I....". Then cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen AGAIN. Ino says "You must really like." Naruto replies with "Yep, I love Hinata".  Then we have the scene were Sakura says maybe he doesn't know the difference between romantic love and love for food. Cue in Naruto who says "Huh. They're not the same?"
  • Then we have the scene where Hinata runs off after the fangirls show up at Ichiraku. Sakura tells Hinata to wait up and tells Naruto he's an idiot.
  • Next is Naruto (Naruto who's on the mission) chasing after Hinata who's running away. 
  • Then her note that said who she wanted to spend the last day on earth with (from a different memory) falls out of nowhere and lands in Naruto's hand.
  • Then we have Hinata appear out of NOWHERE under a street light. She recites her confession again.
  • Sakura appears out of nowhere (I think this was her breaking the genjutsu, but still..) and tells Naruto that this is a dream
Some worthwhile notes
  • Sai was in a dream with his brother
Soo... if anyone sat through this BS movie:
 
1. The genjutsu traps the intruder in a world of memories, but is it their own memories or can it be anyone's (So Shikamaru falling into Sai's memories, Sai falling into Naruto's memories etc.)?
2. How did a piece of fabric tie Naruto and Hinata's memories together in a genjutsu?
3. Why did the scarf start moving on its own? 
3. Why is Naruto shown as his 19 year old self in the memories?
4. How the hell did Hinata just pop out of nowhere? 
5. How did everything pop out of nowhere?
6. How did Sakura show up in the ointment scene if she wasn't a part of the genjutsu? 
6. At the end we see memories (on the yellow orbs) of Team 7, Minato/Kushina... why weren't we shown any of them?
 
If I misinterpreted/misunderstood something then I'm sorry, but I'm so confused about this. The only explanation we get, and I quote, is this: 
 
"Yeah. It traps intruders in a genjutsu and shuts them away in a world of memories. It's a prison of caged memories."
 
That's it! No other explanation. Everything just happens cause BANANAS  :zaru: Maybe I'm just using logic so I shouldn't bother asking this, but it's worth a shot. 
I don't know. I don't know! I kittening don't know!!!

Why did I promise the millions (and millions!!!) and millions of my followers?! I'm so screwed!

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:36 PM

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:37 PM

The whole idea of Naruto being confused about love kind of gets thrown out the window when you include things like this in your manga Kishimoto

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Wait ! What  is this !? Is this a Naruto who understands what feelings of love and flirting is !? Nah !!! that can't be right  he's dumb as brick  :pimp: .

 

Btw I was meaning to post this about this scene glad you cut me of  :chuckle: .

 

I think it was about this one http://indelebile-bo...3/verityglasses

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FU*CK I'M OUT OF HERE ABANDONS THREAD !!!  :argh:  :argh:  :argh:

 

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:38 PM

I don't know. I don't know! I kittening don't know!!!

Why did I promise the millions (and millions!!!) and millions of my followers?! I'm so screwed!


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there's no going back 4life. :argh:

NO
 
I'M A SALTY NSTARD WHO'S IN DENIAL!! I have to!! :argh: 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:38 PM

To those who watched the movie:

 

Can someone explain what the kitten happened in the genjutsu scene? It makes absolutely no sense. So it traps the intruder away and shuts them into a world of memories. THAT's how it works. Simple trap, right? A world of their OWN memories, correct? 

 

Alright, so I'm going to assume that the genjutsu is based off of their own memories and they're reliving them again (since they're the same person in that situation, only they're aware that they're in a genjutsu) . This is basically how Naruto's genjutsu goes at first:

 

  • Naruto (as his young self) sitting in the classroom responding to Iruka's question
  • Naruto (as his twelve year old self) about to start his fight with Kiba in the chunin exams 

 

Then we switch over to Hinata. This is basically how her genjutsu goes:

  • Hinata where she thinks about Naruto who's fighting Pain

But wait!

 

The GENJUTSU is TRAPS the user IN A WORLD OF MEMORIES. Hinata is thinking about Naruto and the scarf comes out of Hinata's bag (on it's kittening own. Mind you that this is happening in the real world, not inside the genjutsu. Even so, the genjutsu's purpose is to trap the user in it's own memories, so how the hell is a mere piece of fabric going to connect people's memories in a JUTSU? ) and wrangles itself around Naruto like the tapeworm it is. 

 

Then we have Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. At this point, this is probably where their memories are connected, which allows Naruto to see inside Hinata's memories. So we have this:

 

  • Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. Naruto flys out of scene and it switches over to Pain who grabs Naruto by the neck and throws him into the ground
  • Then we have Hinata who confesses to Naruto (they added the scene where she gets bullied in the movie, btw. Talk about changing the manga :zaru:
  • Then the scene switches to someone asking Hinata who she wants to spend her last day on earth with.

If the genjutsu is supposed to trap you and relive your memories....then how the hell is 19 year old Naruto standing there watching (no one can see him btw)? Isn't he supposed to be the young Naruto sitting with Team 7...? :wot:

 

  • Next up is Naruto watching the ointment scene. 19 year old Naruto watches Hinata give Naruto the ointment. Sakura then appears out of nowhere and tells him he's dense. (Sakura didn't fall into the genjutsu I think)
  • Next scene is Sakura and Hinata walking. Naruto is by the pole listening to their conversation. Sakura boosts Hinata up by telling her she can give Naruto the scarf and to be confident. (Naruto smiles at the end btw. Ugh you're not kittening obligated to return someone's feelings, what the hell!! :mad: )
  • Then we get some random scenes with Hinata going "Naruto, I....". Cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen together. Sakura tells him "you must really love ramen" Then Hinata during her confession saying "Naruto, I....". Then cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen AGAIN. Ino says "You must really like." Naruto replies with "Yep, I love Hinata".  Then we have the scene were Sakura says maybe he doesn't know the difference between romantic love and love for food. Cue in Naruto who says "Huh. They're not the same?"
  • Then we have the scene where Hinata runs off after the fangirls show up at Ichiraku. Sakura tells Hinata to wait up and tells Naruto he's an idiot.
  • Next is Naruto (Naruto who's on the mission) chasing after Hinata who's running away. 
  • Then her note that said who she wanted to spend the last day on earth with (from a different memory) falls out of nowhere and lands in Naruto's hand.
  • Then we have Hinata appear out of NOWHERE under a street light. She recites her confession again.
  • Sakura appears out of nowhere (I think this was her breaking the genjutsu, but still..) and tells Naruto that this is a dream

Some worthwhile notes

  • Sai was in a dream with his brother

Soo... if anyone sat through this BS movie:

 

1. The genjutsu traps the intruder in a world of memories, but is it their own memories or can it be anyone's (So Shikamaru falling into Sai's memories, Sai falling into Naruto's memories etc.)?

2. How did a piece of fabric tie Naruto and Hinata's memories together in a genjutsu?

3. Why did the scarf start moving on its own? 

3. Why is Naruto shown as his 19 year old self in the memories?

4. How the hell did Hinata just pop out of nowhere? 

5. How did everything pop out of nowhere?

6. How did Sakura show up in the ointment scene if she wasn't a part of the genjutsu? 

6. At the end we see memories (on the yellow orbs) of Team 7, Minato/Kushina... why weren't we shown any of them?

 

If I misinterpreted/misunderstood something then I'm sorry, but I'm so confused about this. The only explanation we get, and I quote, is this: 

 

"Yeah. It traps intruders in a genjutsu and shuts them away in a world of memories. It's a prison of caged memories."

 

That's it! No other explanation. Everything just happens cause BANANAS  :zaru: Maybe I'm just using logic so I shouldn't bother asking this, but it's worth a shot. 

another thing... in the last book, they say that in Sakura's genjutsu she sees Sasuke smiling to her and that's how she understands that she's in a genjutsu...so it wasn't a MEMORY, right ? ! 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:40 PM

So what level of BS has happened since I last left? lol

 

First promo image of the bastard's movie with him dressing like some wannabe hoodlum, over-sized urban getup with the angry expression and everything. I wonder if Pierrot actually intends for this academy brat to confront Orochimaru at some point. Seriously? One of the Legendary Sannin who trained under the 3rd Hokage, has pushed his body and soul beyond human limits with his scientific experimentation, and has been witness to decades worth of conflict (including two world wars which he participated in) being punked by some spoiled 10 year old with daddy issues?    


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:42 PM

That genjutsu is way worse plot device than the storm tablet.

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:43 PM

NO
 
I'M A SALTY NSTARD WHO'S IN DENIAL!! I have to!! :argh: 

Dam right you're in denial
Just accept the facts, SP is a wonderful company and Kishimoto is one of the best writers in history
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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:56 PM

Just repeat this to yourself till it becomes a natural thought. "Kishimoto is that bad of a creator." Without the guiding hand of a veteran editor his work looks like crap. Even after stealing ideas from his brother he couldn't pull this off. lol His themes are just laughable, and that has nothing to do with the relationships. Sasuke being not only alive be rewarded, after becoming a wannabe fascist tyrant is something I don't think I've ever seen in any honest work in history. He literally made Sasuke a classic villain until the very end, and is now acting shocked that people are calling kitten on his ideas.



 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:56 PM

To those who watched the movie:

 

Can someone explain what the kitten happened in the genjutsu scene? It makes absolutely no sense. So it traps the intruder away and shuts them into a world of memories. THAT's how it works. Simple trap, right? A world of their OWN memories, correct? 

 

Alright, so I'm going to assume that the genjutsu is based off of their own memories and they're reliving them again (since they're the same person in that situation, only they're aware that they're in a genjutsu) . This is basically how Naruto's genjutsu goes at first:

 

  • Naruto (as his young self) sitting in the classroom responding to Iruka's question
  • Naruto (as his twelve year old self) about to start his fight with Kiba in the chunin exams 

 

Then we switch over to Hinata. This is basically how her genjutsu goes:

  • Hinata where she thinks about Naruto who's fighting Pain

But wait!

 

The GENJUTSU is TRAPS the user IN A WORLD OF MEMORIES. Hinata is thinking about Naruto and the scarf comes out of Hinata's bag (on it's kittening own. Mind you that this is happening in the real world, not inside the genjutsu. Even so, the genjutsu's purpose is to trap the user in it's own memories, so how the hell is a mere piece of fabric going to connect people's memories in a JUTSU? ) and wrangles itself around Naruto like the tapeworm it is. 

 

Then we have Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. At this point, this is probably where their memories are connected, which allows Naruto to see inside Hinata's memories. So we have this:

 

  • Hinata offering her ointment to Naruto. Naruto flys out of scene and it switches over to Pain who grabs Naruto by the neck and throws him into the ground
  • Then we have Hinata who confesses to Naruto (they added the scene where she gets bullied in the movie, btw. Talk about changing the manga :zaru:
  • Then the scene switches to someone asking Hinata who she wants to spend her last day on earth with.

If the genjutsu is supposed to trap you and relive your memories....then how the hell is 19 year old Naruto standing there watching (no one can see him btw)? Isn't he supposed to be the young Naruto sitting with Team 7...? :wot:

 

  • Next up is Naruto watching the ointment scene. 19 year old Naruto watches Hinata give Naruto the ointment. Sakura then appears out of nowhere and tells him he's dense. (Sakura didn't fall into the genjutsu I think)
  • Next scene is Sakura and Hinata walking. Naruto is by the pole listening to their conversation. Sakura boosts Hinata up by telling her she can give Naruto the scarf and to be confident. (Naruto smiles at the end btw. Ugh you're not kittening obligated to return someone's feelings, what the hell!! :mad: )
  • Then we get some random scenes with Hinata going "Naruto, I....". Cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen together. Sakura tells him "you must really love ramen" Then Hinata during her confession saying "Naruto, I....". Then cue in Naruto, Sakura and Ino eating ramen AGAIN. Ino says "You must really like." Naruto replies with "Yep, I love Hinata".  Then we have the scene were Sakura says maybe he doesn't know the difference between romantic love and love for food. Cue in Naruto who says "Huh. They're not the same?"
  • Then we have the scene where Hinata runs off after the fangirls show up at Ichiraku. Sakura tells Hinata to wait up and tells Naruto he's an idiot.
  • Next is Naruto (Naruto who's on the mission) chasing after Hinata who's running away. 
  • Then her note that said who she wanted to spend the last day on earth with (from a different memory) falls out of nowhere and lands in Naruto's hand.
  • Then we have Hinata appear out of NOWHERE under a street light. She recites her confession again.
  • Sakura appears out of nowhere (I think this was her breaking the genjutsu, but still..) and tells Naruto that this is a dream

Some worthwhile notes

  • Sai was in a dream with his brother

Soo... if anyone sat through this BS movie:

 

1. The genjutsu traps the intruder in a world of memories, but is it their own memories or can it be anyone's (So Shikamaru falling into Sai's memories, Sai falling into Naruto's memories etc.)?

2. How did a piece of fabric tie Naruto and Hinata's memories together in a genjutsu?

3. Why did the scarf start moving on its own? 

3. Why is Naruto shown as his 19 year old self in the memories?

4. How the hell did Hinata just pop out of nowhere? 

5. How did everything pop out of nowhere?

6. How did Sakura show up in the ointment scene if she wasn't a part of the genjutsu? 

6. At the end we see memories (on the yellow orbs) of Team 7, Minato/Kushina... why weren't we shown any of them?

 

If I misinterpreted/misunderstood something then I'm sorry, but I'm so confused about this. The only explanation we get, and I quote, is this: 

 

"Yeah. It traps intruders in a genjutsu and shuts them away in a world of memories. It's a prison of caged memories."

 

That's it! No other explanation. Everything just happens cause BANANAS  :zaru: Maybe I'm just using logic so I shouldn't bother asking this, but it's worth a shot. 

 

 

The answer: The scarf is a living entity and made use of a genjutsu to guilt trip Naruto into loving Byakugan hime in exchange for the loyalty of said hime who will keep making scarves forever ( as we can see at the end of the movie ) so the original scarf will soon have a scarf army to rule the earth

 

 

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:57 PM

 

First promo image of the bastard's movie with him dressing like some wannabe hoodlum, over-sized urban getup with the angry expression and everything. I wonder if Pierrot actually intends for this academy brat to confront Orochimaru at some point. Seriously? One of the Legendary Sannin who trained under the 3rd Hokage, has pushed his body and soul beyond human limits with his scientific experimentation, and has been witness to decades worth of conflict (including two world wars which he participated in) being punked by some spoiled 10 year old with daddy issues?    

 

:lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:

I hope uncle orochi pummels him into oblivion

 

 

 

Wait ! What  is this !? Is this a Naruto who understands what feelings of love and flirting is !? Nah !!! that can't be right  he's dumb as brick   :pimp: .

 

Btw I was meaning to post this about this scene glad you cut me of   :chuckle: .

 

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WTFWTFWTFWTF !!!!! EWWWWWWWWW !!!!  :sick:   :sick:   :sick:  WHY DID YOU DO THIS , FUARRRRRK  I CAN'T SLEEP NOW THE TRAUMA    :argh:   :argh:   :argh:   .

 

FU*CK I'M OUT OF HERE ABANDONS THREAD !!!   :argh:   :argh:   :argh:

 

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 08:58 PM

I didn't promise them that it will be good. I promised them that I will watch it tonight. What a mistake. I'll be posting my thoughts moments by moments. No I won't keep doing it constantly despite that there are many.

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:03 PM

 

First promo image of the bastard's movie with him dressing like some wannabe hoodlum, over-sized urban getup with the angry expression and everything. I wonder if Pierrot actually intends for this academy brat to confront Orochimaru at some point. Seriously? One of the Legendary Sannin who trained under the 3rd Hokage, has pushed his body and soul beyond human limits with his scientific experimentation, and has been witness to decades worth of conflict (including two world wars which he participated in) being punked by some spoiled 10 year old with daddy issues?    

What? lol I know we've gone from a feudal setting to the modern age at break neck speed, but I didn't think it was so Kishimoto cold make "Naruto the urban badass years". lol

 

This reminds me of the 90s when Sonic's biggest selling point was that he had "an attitude".

 

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Oh yeah 90's attitude. Coming to a theater near you! :lmao:



 


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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:06 PM

You know, there are days when I wish I could just leave totally behind the naruto fanbase cause it's so toxic & it's full of disgusting/hypocrite people.

...today I'm having one of those days. -___-

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#3995 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:10 PM

You know, there are days when I wish I could just leave totally behind the naruto fanbase cause it's so toxic & it's full of disgusting/hypocrite people.

...today I'm having one of those days. -___-

I'm just here for the food.

#3996 Michi

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:11 PM

I'm just here for the food.


why am I out of likes?

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#3997 Tiller

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:12 PM

 

So here's the Sonic theme song from the 90s. We should make a Soft Taco Boy version.

 

Urban clothes worn so fly.

 

Soft Taco Boy Uzumaki

 

Too cool for his fathers ideals.

 

Soft Taco Boy Uzumaki

 

Taco Boy

 

He can really pout.

 

Taco Boy

 

He's got an attitude

 

Taco Boy

 

He's the biggest disappointment ALIVE!!

 

Look out with his hipster attitude.

 

Soft Taco Boy Uzumaki!

 

Don't doubt he'll fail you just like his Dad do.

 

Soft Taco Boy Uzumaki!

 

Taco Boy

 

He can really pout.

 

Taco Boy

 

He has an attitude.

 

Taco Boy

 

He's the biggest disappointment ALIVE!!

 

He's the biggest disappointment ALIVE!!

 

He's the biggest disappointment ALIVE!!



 


#3998 Gaara's hair

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:15 PM

why am I out of likes?

The Grinch took your likes.



#3999 RedFaction

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:17 PM

The Grinch took your likes.

So Kishi?


 


#4000 Gaara's hair

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Posted 30 January 2015 - 09:19 PM

So Kishi?

No, Kishi's new wife ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪ 







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