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[MoonDrop04]

@moondrop
What kind of power up sakura will gain?
I don't think sakura will gain power up, maybe a demonstration of her seal power.

Yeah that's what I meant to say sorry if I didn't word it right. Sakura should need to demonstrate more of her seal power but considering of how Tsunade's seal power wasn't much to push Madara into a corner I think she needs a boost to her seal power. The current Madara can only be damaged by Sage Jutsu and tai Jutsu so Sakura has taijutsu down but need Sage Jutsu to add to her monster strength. So what if Naruto helped Sakura replenish her already drained chakra but doesn't realize that he's giving her Sage chakra as well?? It may effect her seal and changes it shape as well.......

You know that also got me thinking of Hashiramas Sage mode power and tattoo marks on his face. What if his Sage mode is actually the forehead seal + Sage power?? It isn't actually confirmed but could it have been possible his wife Mito Uzumaki taught him the forehead seal and later when he learned of Sage chakra it effected his seal into the marks around his face?? It that were actually true then the same could happen to sakura through Naruto's help!!! It's not a major power up much like Naruto's and Sasuke's but it's Definetly useful to go up against Madara

[Awes9]

It's not a headcanon. Or if it is, then it has the same weight as your opinion.
 
You are insisting that Team 7 will not be healed, when there's been plenty of foreshadowing that it will be. Didn't Kishi say he hadn't had fun drawing a cover in years until volume 66? Team 7 has been paralleled to other teams, ones that they are supposed to surpass, which have all been destroyed.
 
It doesn't matter if Sasuke and Sakura don't have much of positive interaction. Naruto and Sasuke have no positive interaction either. All we have is Naruto stalking and Sasuke ignoring all that for the entirety of part 2. They're still going to end up as friends, because this is Kishi's way.
 
You say you don't expect something grand out of Sasuke and Sakura but I never said you should expect that. I said is that they have a bond, that justifies this being called Team 7, not NaruSasu + NaruSaku.

But it is a headcanon, my opinion on the matter is clearly stated "i don't know but I don't think I will like it", hardly a headcanon, I just said manga facts nor the plot supports your theory. If you're talking about my opinion about the building up for Sakura to get over Sasuke, well that's a fact there is a progression in Sakura's feelings which are depicted more negatively and all this build up has to lead to something otherwise what's the point ? I don't see how it's not a logical conclusion. Can I be wrong ? Of course wouldn't be the first time but I think I brought enough evidence to make a reasonable claim while yours has honestly little to no basis.

But I never said that in fact I said the contrary I just don't think it's as important as you're making it out to be.

Naruto and Sasuke is uncomparable to Sasuke and Sakura, the former is the core of the manga, has far more interactions and an actual relationship as bad as it is and is emphasized every 2 chapters while the latter has no bearing on it at all, and isn't emphasized during the entirity of part 2 . Besides you told me yourself that Naruto's quest to save Sasuke is supposed to be seen as positive in one of our earlier discussions, Sakura's feelings are depicted negatively and are an hindrance to her character.

If that's the crux of your argument then let's not forget Kakashi is part of team 7, and Kakashi-Sasuke isn't anymore important than Sakura-Sasuke so why wouldn't Sasuke try to help his sensei right now and restore their damaged bond instead of trying to go to a dimension he has no access to, just to restore Sakura's faith in him. Anyway whatever the outcome will be at the end Naruto-Sasuke and Naruto-Sakura will always be more important than the 2 other bonds because Naruto is the glue that holds team 7 together, that's how it is in the manga right now and there's nothing to support the contrary.
Last point I still don't see how his bond with taka is any less important than his bond with Sakura or Kakashi, the only special bond that Sasuke has is Naruto the rest is nothing more than conjecture.
Look I'm not saying you're wrong maybe you will be proven right in the future but as of now in the manga there's little to support your claim that he has a special bond with Sakura that he has with no else apart from Naruto I just don't see it and believe me I'm really trying to look at things your way. Only time will tell which one of us is right (not that it really matters).

[narusaku256]

 Sasuke's character may cause anger and I won't dispute that, but if Kishi wrote Naruto being okay with him after all the murder attempts, then he will do the same with Sakura. She may have more difficulty in accepting it, but she'll forgive him. I don't see the point of her not forgiving him. Is there a point?

Agree with you. But what I wanted to put up was, Sakura can forgive Sasuke for what he did to her, but she will have a hard time forgiving Sasuke for what he did to Naruto and made Naruto and Sakura go through. I say this because we all know that the only person Sakura cares the most for is Naruto and she doesn't tolerate anyone who insults Naruto, not even Sasuke which is made apparent in the part during the Kage Summit Arc wherein Sasuke calls Naruto an idiot which hits Sakura's nerve and she retaliates. I don't remember if he calls Naruto an idiot for still chasing him, but it is something along these lines, but it is surely an insult to Naruto and Sakura retaliates favoring Naruto. Another thing which really concerns me is, would Naruto still forgive Sasuke if he was not entrusted with stopping the cycle of hatred thing. Answer, anyone?

[foreheadlove97]

Great chapter! I'm not sure if I can wait for two weeks.

 

I hope Sakura stays safe and I don't really care if someone saves her, as long as she doesn't die. I wonder if Sasuke gets into kamui if Kishi will make it a split fight with Naruto vs Madara and Sasuke (and Sakura and maybe Obito) vs Madara in the other dimension. That would be interesting. I also don't think it's farfetched to see Sakura forgive Sasuke either since team 7 will all probably be on good terms in the end. (Even though I reaaally disagree with what Sasuke has done to everyone, I don't think Kishi would allow them to go on without forgiving each other since he seems to be really into that theme.)

Edited by foreheadlove97, 25 April 2014 - 02:37 PM.

[FireFox]

But it is a headcanon, my opinion on the matter is clearly stated "i don't know but I don't think I will like it", hardly a headcanon, I just said manga facts nor the plot supports your theory. If you're talking about my opinion about the building up for Sakura to get over Sasuke, well that's a fact there is a progression in Sakura's feelings which are depicted more negatively and all this build up has to lead to something otherwise what's the point ? I don't see how it's not a logical conclusion. Can I be wrong ? Of course wouldn't be the first time but I think I brought enough evidence to make a reasonable claim while yours has honestly little to no basis.

But I never said that in fact I said the contrary I just don't think it's as important as you're making it out to be.

Naruto and Sasuke is uncomparable to Sasuke and Sakura, the former is the core of the manga, has far more interactions and an actual relationship as bad as it is and is emphasized every 2 chapters while the latter has no bearing on it at all, and isn't emphasized during the entirity of part 2 . Besides you told me yourself that Naruto's quest to save Sasuke is supposed to be seen as positive in one of our earlier discussions, Sakura's feelings are depicted negatively and are an hindrance to her character.

If that's the crux of your argument then let's not forget Kakashi is part of team 7, and Kakashi-Sasuke isn't anymore important than Sakura-Sasuke so why wouldn't Sasuke try to help his sensei right now and restore their damaged bond instead of trying to go to a dimension he has no access to, just to restore Sakura's faith in him. Anyway whatever the outcome will be at the end Naruto-Sasuke and Naruto-Sakura will always be more important than the 2 other bonds because Naruto is the glue that holds team 7 together, that's how it is in the manga right now and there's nothing to support the contrary.
Last point I still don't see how his bond with taka is any less important than his bond with Sakura or Kakashi, the only special bond that Sasuke has is Naruto the rest is nothing more than conjecture.
Look I'm not saying you're wrong maybe you will be proven right in the future but as of now in the manga there's little to support your claim that he has a special bond with Sakura that he has with no else apart from Naruto I just don't see it and believe me I'm really trying to look at things your way. Only time will tell which one of us is right (not that it really matters).

I agree with this the SS "bond" is so blown out of proportion  that it feels like i'm reading a fanfiction not the actual manga , they have barely any interaction and this is stated by Sakura herself in her confession yet people choose to ignore this . They have a bond of being teammates part of T7 and you could barely call them friends but on some level they are , through this manga their bond haven't been emphasized as special in fact every time T7 have meet the only words he has for her is Sakura and that's it how is that special ? Sasuke is indifferent toward her he doesn't pay her any attention now compared that to rest of his bonds , compare how he acts when he's in the presence of Naruto or Team Taka at least he has a meaningful interaction with them beyond "shut up" and just saying their name for crying out loud he didn't even blinked when he tried to kill her 3 times nor remembered her as part of T7 or as a person. Like you said the only thing in this manga that was shown in therms of SS that has been emphasized is how her feelings for him are shown as negative and that's it there is no emphasizing on their bond not by her and certainly not by Sasuke . Never mind the fact that it was shown that she doesn't understand him at all especially in her confession to him and can't connect to his character in any way . This is why when i hear or see that SS are so much important to each other and their bond is special feels like i'm seeing something written from a fanfiction , they do have the bond of being teammates,comrades,friends but there is nothing that shows in the manga that their bond is so special .

 

Also i would say this Sakura doesn't have to chose them on equal ground she just needs to understand that the image she had on him since they were 12 was wrong that he wasn't who she thought he was and then realize her feelings for Naruto honestly this is what i think will happen and what has been building up for .     

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 April 2014 - 03:02 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Two weeks. Man...

 

I guess I can finish Dark Souls 2 now. So long it won't kick my ass.

 

Wait...I just thought of something. Two weeks? Crap, I got a call about me moving up in my work and going full-time completely. That mean I won't able to read until next day after work!

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ramenanmitsu]

How am I supposed to survive for another two weeks? I am too worried about my Sakura-chan :((((((

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

How am I supposed to survive for another two weeks? I am too worried about my Sakura-chan :((((((

http://upcominganimes.myrio.de/
This season sucks hard i'm lost.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 April 2014 - 03:15 PM.

[Shadow Wolf]

If we survived 3 weeks after 615... 2 weeks should be easy. :-)

[TouKen4Life3g]

If we survived 3 weeks after 615... 2 weeks should be easy. :-)

That is so beyond true.

 

How am I supposed to survive for another two weeks? I am too worried about my Sakura-chan :((((((

Play Dark Souls 2. It will make you into its well you know.

[ramenanmitsu]

http://upcominganimes.myrio.de/This season sucks hard i'm lost.

 
Nothing in that list interests me at all!

 

 Play Dark Souls 2. It will make you into its well you know.

I usually don't play games or watch anime :( Maybe I can finish reading my Game of Thrones book.

[FireFox]

WTH!!!!! 2 WEEKS!!!!!! WHY AM''I HEARING ABOUT THIS NOW FROM WERE DID THIS COME FROM ? 

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Nothing in that list interests me at all!

  I usually don't play games or watch anime :( Maybe I can finish reading my Game of Thrones book.

Ah, perfect. That works too. I only suggested that because that's what I'm doing now. It's...sigh. If it was a person, I will pull what Sasuke did at the end of this chapter to it.

[TouKen4Life3g]

http://upcominganimes.myrio.de/
This season sucks hard i'm lost.

Er....Well...Hm, I'll research later. I'll just keep doing other things.

[Namaenash]

Chapter was ok I guess. I find the only interesting part was the last few pages --Kakashi's sharingan was taken, Sasuke sliced Madara while Madara jumped to another dimension, and throw his sword to Sakura. I bet no one saw that coming.

 

For once I'm hoping that no one saves Sakura, since she literally can dodge or even better, grab Madara's sword and throw it back at him --yeah, that'll be great. One can only hope (: But really, she's a strong girl and talented ninja, this is the time to show her prime...

 

If there's someone who'll save her, I personally think it won't be Sasuke. The story won't flow nicely, given the build up. She's still distrusting him, and few chapters back we saw Sasuke wanted to escape with only Juugo and Naruto. So, if suddenly he jumped just to save Sakura, I'll just facepalm again.. haha.. not because of the potential SS moment, but it's just too forced. Seriously. Sasuke was happily slicing Madara in half, and then suddenly jump to the other dimension because Sakura is in danger? How would he know she's in danger? He can't see the other side right? Even if he can see, how exactly will he jump through Madara via that half-body portal and made his way to save Sakura? Sorry, but I think it's too far fetched...

 

From the look of the situation, it could be easily Obito who'll somehow save her. But I'm a bit doubtful about it. What's the purpose of saving her? To save the world, Obito should destroy his rinnegan. That is his priority. Saving Sakura would be meaningless, since most probably Black Zetsu can take over his body easily and give the rinnegan to Madara --effectively killing both himself and Sakura.

 

The way Kishi draw the last panel kind of reminded me of this:

http://www.mangapand...hapter-484.html

 

In which Kakashi was shocked and he was nearby, but he can't do anything. Sakura literally in the brink of death as Sasuke's knife is shown to be ready to slice her.

 

Similarly in this chapter, Obito may be nearby, but given his strength, he might not be able to do anything much. If he can do something, he'll probably destroy his rinnegan himself (without even asking Sakura). It seems that he's struggling to keep Black Zetsu controlling his body. Sasuke was nearby, but it's practically close to impossible to jump through the portal --are we expecting him to easily sneak through Madara, like 'Excuse me Sir, I need to save the girl over there...' and speed up very quickly to catch the sword or to save Sakura-chan bridal style? For God sake, please dont... --too far fetched, too forced, it wont flow with the storyline nicely.

 

So, my two cents with regards to who'll save Sakura (if she even need to be saved) is similar to what chapter 484 on that very same page. Checkout yourself, flip to the next page and see who's saving her. Yes, the one and only.... I don't know how Kishi will do it, but I just think this'll be the case. One can only hope (: Let's wait and see...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Unless she can pull what is called BS from archer point of view of turning around in an instant, grab it without any damage and toss it back all in one second.

[FireFox]

Unless she can pull what is called BS from archer point of view of turning around in an instant, grab it without any damage and toss it back all in one second.

That would be totally BAD ASS please Kishi for the love of Rikudou make this happen 

[TouKen4Life3g]

That would be totally BAD ASS please Kishi for the love of Rikudou make this happen 

Lol. Well we'll see. No reaction shot from her, so you can go both ways. One is like "the hell just happened?" with Obito getting hurt, and the other is like "Ha! Fooled you!"

[soraandven]

maybe naruto jumps in the kamui then him and sakura fight madara

[KeikoxYusuke]

Well, I don't really listen to that guy at all anymore, and I haven't for around a year. I Just felt like mentioning him because I USED to be a fan.....Sorry if any of that was unclear.