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#381 Codus N

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:06 PM

The one who took Tobi in and instructed him on how to use the Mugen Tsukuyomi genjutsu in chapters 601-607.
 


But you're implying that Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. My intention is disprove that believe with evidence given of his MS's techniques.
 

 

1. An explicit depiction of Sasuke using the ability in his right eye to apply shape to Amaterasu. 

 

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2. Bee explains the reasoning for his ability to escape Sasuke's genjutsu.

 

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The only way Sasuke could have obtained Tsukuyomi is if the transplant of Itachi's eyes made his techniques available to use like how Darkrest described it. 

 

Ok, then what's Sasuke's first MS technique, then? He has Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi and Susanoo. What's the last one, then?


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:07 PM

Good point. Well, it should be interesting to see the aftermath of the attack. Will everyone be ok? Will there be casualty? Will nothing happen at all? I kind of want the second option. Not to say there will be deaths, but at least a KO, mainly to named characters. Hard to picture them to be in this battle scene when both villains are human sized.

I kinda want to see the alliance what they'll do when the tree starts shooting. I don't think Kishi created and draw the tree just at the end it will be cut down. The tree has already readied her blasts, so I think next chapter we'll see the tree in action. It will be really an interesting thing to see.

 

Then again, maybe Kishi just wanted to show a tree and will make Naruto's and Minato's combo attacks work at the end after some hurdles... And we'll have a timber tree :P


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:09 PM

 

Ok, then what's Sasuke's first MS technique, then? He has Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi and Susanoo. What's the last one, then?

 

Kagutsuchi is the other technique. He creates Amaterasu with his left eye, the first MS technique he ever showed, and then with his right eye he is able to configure its form into whatever shape he desires.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:16 PM

I kinda want to see the alliance what they'll do when the tree starts shooting. I don't think Kishi created and draw the tree just at the end it will be cut down. The tree has already readied her blasts, so I think next chapter we'll see the tree in action. It will be really an interesting thing to see.
 
Then again, maybe Kishi just wanted to show a tree and will make Naruto's and Minato's combo attacks work at the end after some hurdles... And we'll have a timber tree :P

I think this is the alliance best opportunity to show off before it goes off, though maybe they won't do anything. I don't know but I think this is for the best since I really can't see them stand there all day and/or engage in combat since they are human sized. It will look odd just to see everyone jump in on Madara and/or Obito.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:22 PM

I think this is the alliance best opportunity to show off before it goes off, though maybe they won't do anything. I don't know but I think this is for the best since I really can't see them stand there all day and/or engage in combat since they are human sized. It will look odd just to see everyone jump in on Madara and/or Obito.

I think we'll see some panels of the alliance next chapter and what they'll do. Either defend themselves or attack or nothing if the tree didn't shoot.

 

Shikamaru said when there's opportunity to interfere, they'll go and fight Obito. I think he meant Obito excluding Madara. So, what idea and a way they'll go combat are waited to be seen. But, it can go by using their attacks on Obito when they see a chance even if they're human size. They'll have an idea on how to attack eventually to fight.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:30 PM

I think we'll see some panels of the alliance next chapter and what they'll do. Either defend themselves or attack or nothing if the tree didn't shoot.

 

Shikamaru said when there's opportunity to interfere, they'll go and fight Obito. I think he meant Obito excluding Madara. So, what idea and a way they'll go combat are waited to be seen. But, it can go by using their attacks on Obito when they see a chance even if they're human size. They'll have an idea on how to attack eventually to fight.

I guess so, though I think it was for both Madara and Obito. They were looking there as well.

 

Anyway, I still think this is it for them and they should what it takes to make it work. Kishi has a way to make it happen without being the obvious route. I mean when you think about it, Shikamaru was in the thinking process in this chapter, so it seems like this is it for them. Do or die. I mean this is Kishi who made hand holding happened way early in when everyone hoped for the ending.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

I guess so, though I think it was for both Madara and Obito. They were looking there as well.

 

Anyway, I still think this is it for them and they should what it takes to make it work. Kishi has a way to make it happen without being the obvious route. I mean when you think about it, Shikamaru was in the thinking process in this chapter, so it seems like this is it for them. Do or die. I mean this is Kishi who made hand holding happened way early in when everyone hoped for the ending.

Yeah, Shikamaru in thought in this chapter is very possible that is the time for the alliance to engage. We'll see.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:38 PM

You know, if the defense partially fails, I can see Sakrua healing all of them, which could piss Obito. Hm, I wonder.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

You know, if the defense partially fails, I can see Sakrua healing all of them, which could piss Obito. Hm, I wonder.

You just made a possible way for Sakura's next role and the set up of the parallel XD



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:44 PM

You just made a possible way for Sakura's next role and the set up of the parallel XD

Can she have the slug to go in cover? That's another way. Yeah, Obito is not going to like seeing everyone alive. I'm starting to sense parallel. It's getting stronger. Though if anything, I don't think it will trigger right away. I think Kishi will build it up.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:47 PM

Can she have the slug to go in cover? That's another way. Yeah, Obito is not going to like seeing everyone alive. I'm starting to sense parallel. It's getting stronger. Though if anything, I don't think it will trigger right away. I think Kishi will build it up.

Yeah, there will be a build up for the parallel. When Sakura steps in again, in the way that Kishi will have her start with, the set up or the build up for the parallel would have begin.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:50 PM

Yeah, there will be a build up for the parallel. When Sakura steps in again, in the way that Kishi will have her start with, the set up or the build up for the parallel would have begin.

Yeah, I mean the parallel won't happen asap. It must be build up to that moment and she needs to say/do something that is similar to Rin. For Sannin parallel, it was the fact Team 7 summoned the same species as Sannin, so the parallel confirmation happened. For Rin, she got to play a similarities card in order to start triggering.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:05 PM

Yeah, I mean the parallel won't happen asap. It must be build up to that moment and she needs to say/do something that is similar to Rin. For Sannin parallel, it was the fact Team 7 summoned the same species as Sannin, so the parallel confirmation happened. For Rin, she got to play a similarities card in order to start triggering.

It will be healing, or something she'll say or do to Naruto. Or Naruto will do something that Sakura will do the same as Rin did to Obito.

I think it will be either the latter or did something to Naruto.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:09 PM

Two Kyuubis just sayan.
I only hope that Sasuke will do nothing, and Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

 

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

Naruto doesnt share the kyuubi chakra with him for god's sake.

 

PLZ KISHI FOR GOD'S SAKE.

 

Are you f****** kidding me... this would be the worst thing to ever happen.

 

Naruto needs the full Kyuubi already and not share the other half with Sasuke. --'

 

EDIT:

Kagutsuchi is the other technique. He creates Amaterasu with his left eye, the first MS technique he ever showed, and then with his right eye he is able to configure its form into whatever shape he desires.

 

I'm not sure about this. Danzo did mention Sasuke has the Tsukuyomi although way less powerful then Itachi's. In return his Amaterasu control is way ahead, at least that's how I see it.


Edited by Darkness, 27 August 2013 - 06:16 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:14 PM

yeah and once tsunade jumps in sakura will help naruto sasuke and minato fight obito what if he controls sasuke like he did menma heh


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:26 PM

 

I'm not sure about this. Danzo did mention Sasuke has the Tsukuyomi although way less powerful then Itachi's. In return his Amaterasu control is way ahead, at least that's how I see it.

 

No he didn't. Danzo made a comparison with Itachi's Tsukuyomi which was capable of altering the victim's perception of time. He was berating Sasuke when he mentioned his brother's name. The exact genjutsu that was used was never given a name. Moreover it didnt even have the characteristics of Tsukuyomi. 



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:29 PM

 

Are you f****** kidding me... this would be the worst thing to ever happen.

 

Naruto needs the full Kyuubi already and not share the other half with Sasuke. --'

 

EDIT:

 

 

I'm not sure about this. Danzo did mention Sasuke has the Tsukuyomi although way less powerful then Itachi's. In return his Amaterasu control is way ahead, at least that's how I see it.

I think i wrote it wrong, i meant to say that i dont want Naruto to give a portion of the kyuubi chakra to Sasuke.

And also no more Sakura/Hinata sharing panel time.

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Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 August 2013 - 06:32 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:01 PM

No he didn't. Danzo made a comparison with Itachi's Tsukuyomi which was capable of altering the victim's perception of time. He was berating Sasuke when he mentioned his brother's name. The exact genjutsu that was used was never given a name. Moreover it didnt even have the characteristics of Tsukuyomi. 

 

By all means it's not fully evidenced whether it's just a regular Genjutsu or if it's Sasuke's version of Tsukuyomi. Sasuke has never used any Genjutsu before IIRC, so it's fair to assume it was an ability given by the Mangekyou. Moreover, Sasuke's Genjutsu is very similar to Itachi's and he has all of his other techniques (Susanoo and Amaterasu) so I really don't see why he can't have this one as well in a weaker standard.

I think i wrote it wrong, i meant to say that i dont want Naruto to give a portion of the kyuubi chakra to Sasuke.

And also no more Sakura/Hinata sharing panel time.

chega dessa merda.

 

Ah right I got it wrong. I've read somewhere that for Sasuke to get on par with Naruto he would have to get the other half of Kurama's chakra, so I interpreted it like this.

But either way giving Sasuke chakra woud still be bad, mostly now that is clear Sasuke wants to get rid of the Bijuus.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:07 PM

 

By all means it's not fully evidenced whether it's just a regular Genjutsu or if it's Sasuke's version of Tsukuyomi. Sasuke has never used any Genjutsu before IIRC, so it's fair to assume it was an ability given by the Mangekyou. Moreover, Sasuke's Genjutsu is very similar to Itachi's and he has all of his other techniques (Susanoo and Amaterasu) so I really don't see why he can't have this one as well in a weaker standard.

 

Ah right I got it wrong. I've read somewhere that for Sasuke to get on par with Naruto he would have to get the other half of Kurama's chakra, so I interpreted it like this.

But either way giving Sasuke chakra woud still be bad, mostly now that is clear Sasuke wants to get rid of the Bijuus.

Which i dont get why he wants to get rid of the bijuus because if they die they would just respawn on another place.


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