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[StriderC]

In a way for me it seems that NS chance got bigger ever since it was stated that Rin was still in love with kakashi i mean, just like jiraya and tsunade the 3 famous parallel of each other the goofy idiot of the group never got the girl to love him in a way that should change this time dont you guys think, i mean every time you root for some 1 like jiraya and he dies, Obito he dies before confess and its over .......and then he goes insane so that would mean game over too.

now we have naruto and sakura and i say let the goofball/underdog of the story have hes chance .
PS nothing bad about hinata i for 1 like her too but its just not the same.

I don't hate her character and I mean, she's cool. I too have nothing against her but she's not looking like a side character these days and Kishi is making it so. Many characters haven't gotten their shining moment in this war yet, and who's to say they even would at this point. Some characters haven't come back from their disappearing act. Sai for example. I'm also beginning to think what the rookies said back before they arrived won't be played upon. I mean, Hinata got her wish, and Sakura's getting there I suppose but what of the others? Shino, Kiba, Ten Ten, Choji, Shikamaru, etc. It's quite hard to give that when one is way too prominent.

[Arachnia]

I guess the fact it's happening so quick for side characters to get what they're at is what bothering people here. Ok, perhaps it was quick, but side characters in Kishi's world happen quick, so as I mentioned before, he most likely didn't want to have that much developments, but because he left it open and now he reached to the end, he has the habit to close them, so enter multiple developments of multiple characters. Is that right?

I gess so:P but still it brings ya kinda down

@striderc

i agree she did have alot of panel time makes you wonder what kishi is playing at closure or even more hinata leading too NH but still right now i am kinda worried but at the same time i am not its wierd

Edited by Arachnia, 10 May 2013 - 02:35 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't hate her character and I mean, she's cool. I too have nothing against her but she's not looking like a side character these days and Kishi is making it so. Many characters haven't gotten their shining moment in this war yet, and who's to say they even would at this point. Some characters haven't come back from their disappearing act. Sai for example. I'm also beginning to think what the rookies said back before they arrived won't be played upon. I mean, Hinata got her wish, and Sakura's getting there I suppose but what of the others? Shino, Kiba, Ten Ten, Choji, Shikamaru, etc. It's quite hard to give that when one is way too prominent.

Well, I may agree with you guys about the latest moment, if it wasn't the fact that she's a Hyuuga and if I remember chapter 614 correctly, she and others are made of protection squad to protect Naruto when he needs to recover. This is most likely the strategy that these guys will keep doing until they are lost. The fact that Hinata is the one to group these other ninjas tell me that they are really short on men, which is bad, but no matter what, they will do what they have to do because they are allies/friends. So these new replacement are willing to go down with a fight. Sakura is a new addition and timing was right for her because well, he's actually hurt and make no mistake, he will get hurt more, so expect back and forth NS interaction. But if you are really tired of her, then look at this, Juubi is about the clean the yard.

[Don-kun]

I don't hate her character and I mean, she's cool. I too have nothing against her but she's not looking like a side character these days and Kishi is making it so. Many characters haven't gotten their shining moment in this war yet, and who's to say they even would at this point. Some characters haven't come back from their disappearing act. Sai for example. I'm also beginning to think what the rookies said back before they arrived won't be played upon. I mean, Hinata got her wish, and Sakura's getting there I suppose but what of the others? Shino, Kiba, Ten Ten, Choji, Shikamaru, etc. It's quite hard to give that when one is way too prominent.

I totally agree with you, but Kishi said that your favorite characters will shine and if he is basing on the last popularity poll is no wonder why Hinata is getting all these unnecessary focus since most of the popular character are dead with exception of Iruka, if you notice every single Rookie got a thought or two but only the popular ones has being focus on the most, that's why I'm not that invested in the story for a good while since Kishimoto has being proving that he want to please his readers while telling his story.
At this point is all about fanservice while the story progress plus RTN gave me a big example of how low Naruto franchise will go just to draw more attention maybe that's why am not bother that much by Hinata.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I totally agree with you, but Kishi said that your favorite characters will shine and if he is basing on the last popularity poll is no wonder why Hinata is getting all these unnecessary focus since most of the popular character are dead with exception of Iruka, if you notice every single Rookie got a thought or two but only the popular ones has being focus on the most, that's why I'm not that invested in the story for a good while since Kishimoto has being proving that he want to please his readers while telling his story.
At this point is all about fanservice while the story progress plus RTN gave me a big example of how low Naruto franchise will go just to draw more attention maybe that's why am not bother that much by Hinata.

Are you talking about the ads for RtN? From what I heard or glimpse, the fanservice with AU! K9 lasted so short, that even the CD has more AU! involvement with them than Kishi did for the movie.

[James S Cassidy]

I guess the fact it's happening so quick for side characters to get what they're at is what bothering people here. Ok, perhaps it was quick, but side characters in Kishi's world happen quick, so as I mentioned before, he most likely didn't want to have that much developments, but because he left it open and now he reached to the end, he has the habit to close them, so enter multiple developments of multiple characters. Is that right?

Is it really a closure?

I'll be honest I don't care about Hinata anymore. I used to like her, then I hated her, now I am completely indifferent about her. I don't know if this is my fault or Kishi's fault. I would like to think it is Kishi's fault for not doing anything with her except the obvious for so long. I just didn't care. Unlike Sakura who we saw go through trials or even other side-characters like Shikamaru who went through his sensei dying, but Hinata....it seemed like her only real problem was not being with Naruto. Granted, she has other problems in her life, but the manga made it out to be like it was no big deal. "Her father hated her and said she wasn't strong." So? She was still going to be clan leader regardless and it just seemed like "It's not important enough to touch upon." The manga itself ignored it and ignored it to the point that even we forgot about it while reading. Just like Hinata, it was a background problem that didn't really matter.

Now, we have these moments of Hinata now and you yourself say this is closure for Hinata. Okay, what closure? Her being a leader of her clan? Her being a stronger person? The manga never cared about this before so why now? The only issue the manga seemed to cared about was NaruHina. That seems like a bigger closure than her being a leader to her clan so why not just close the pairing out? Yet this is one topic that seems the most important that Kishi continues to dance around. Like I said, ask a NaruHina fan and I bet you the most important thing about Hinata is not her strength or leadership to the clan, but her love for Naruto.

I just don't care anymore and I realize that this is really sad. Some people hate the Hinata panels, others like the Hinata's panels, but I...don't care at all. I seriously just don't care one bit about her character or whether or not she becomes a clan leader. I don't care if she gets stronger or if she lives or dies. The NaruHina fans and Hinata fans try to persuade me that Hinata is more important than I think she is, the manga itself tells me otherwise. Kishi...I don't even think Kishi cares anymore about Hinata. I think he is just putting her there just to do it. It would explain a lot. Unlike other characters like Sakura; like Shikamaru who at least were good enough to show these progressions. To see them face trails and continue to either fail or prevail shows that he has a thinking process for them. Hinata though: "There is a problem, then it is fixed." You don't see Hinata struggle with the problem. You don't see her standing up for herself against her father. Heck, she barely did against Neji and it was Naruto who ended up changing Neji's mind. So again, she left it to others to solve her problems for her.

I really want to ask now...why should I care about Hinata now? If someone can tell me a good reason, then I will change my beat, but now I don't even see Hinata anymore unless she is forcibly pushed into my face.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 10 May 2013 - 02:42 PM.

[Don-kun]

Side character does not get progressive development it just happen, that's why they are called side characters, the difference with Naruto and Sakura is that they are main character so we will see how they progress step by step, this happens with a lot a stories when it comes to side characters vs main characters.

Are you talking about the ads for RtN? From what I heard or glimpse, the fanservice with AU! K9 lasted so short, that even the CD has more AU! involvement with them than Kishi did for the movie.

What I meant is that if it wasn't for RTN I would be worry has hell of why Hinata is getting that much focus, but after that movie I acknowledge how hard Naruto franchise and Kishi tries to keep the readers interested while giving them what they want without going against his final plan.

Edited by Don-kun, 10 May 2013 - 02:52 PM.

[Arachnia]

Is it really a closure?

I'll be honest I don't care about Hinata anymore. I used to like her, then I hated her, now I am completely indifferent about her. I don't know if this is my fault or Kishi's fault. I would like to think it is Kishi's fault for not doing anything with her except the obvious for so long. I just didn't care. Unlike Sakura who we saw go through trials or even other side-characters like Shikamaru who went through his sensei dying, but Hinata....it seemed like her only real problem was not being with Naruto. Granted, she has other problems in her life, but the manga made it out to be like it was no big deal. "Her father hated her and said she wasn't strong." So? She was still going to be clan leader regardless and it just seemed like "It's not important enough to touch upon." The manga itself ignored it and ignored it to the point that even we forgot about it while reading. Just like Hinata, it was a background problem that didn't really matter.

Now, we have these moments of Hinata now and you yourself say this is closure for Hinata. Okay, what closure? Her being a leader of her clan? Her being a stronger person? The manga never cared about this before so why now? The only issue the manga seemed to cared about was NaruHina. That seems like a bigger closure than her being a leader to her clan so why not just close the pairing out? Yet this is one topic that seems the most important that Kishi continues to dance around. Like I said, ask a NaruHina fan and I bet you the most important thing about Hinata is not her strength or leadership to the clan, but her love for Naruto.

I just don't care anymore and I realize that this is really sad. Some people hate the Hinata panels, others like the Hinata's panels, but I...don't care at all. I seriously just don't care one bit about her character or whether or not she becomes a clan leader. I don't care if she gets stronger or if she lives or dies. The NaruHina fans and Hinata fans try to persuade me that Hinata is more important than I think she is, the manga itself tells me otherwise. Kishi...I don't even think Kishi cares anymore about Hinata. I think he is just putting her there just to do it. It would explain a lot. Unlike other characters like Sakura; like Shikamaru who at least were good enough to show these progressions. To see them face trails and continue to either fail or prevail shows that he has a thinking process for them. Hinata though: "There is a problem, then it is fixed." You don't see Hinata struggle with the problem. You don't see her standing up for herself against her father. Heck, she barely did against Neji and it was Naruto who ended up changing Neji's mind. So again, she left it to others to solve her problems for her.

I really want to ask now...why should I care about Hinata now? If someone can tell me a good reason, then I will change my beat, but now I don't even see Hinata anymore unless she is forcibly pushed into my face.

omg are we like Obito when it comes too Hinata

We just dont care anymore xD?

[StriderC]

I gess so:P but still it brings ya kinda down

@striderc

i agree she did have alot of panel time makes you wonder what kishi is playing at closure or even more hinata leading too NH but still right now i am kinda worried but at the same time i am not its wierd

I don't know what Kishi's game is at this point with her. It's growing tiresome though. I'm a bit indifferent toward pairings as a whole lately. I mean, I still fully believe NS is the endgame, but given how's he treated her, her interactions with Naruto and such, I just really want Sakura development with NS development being the bonus. It seems she'll become more relevant when our favorite sharingan user makes his reappearance but who knows in what way. I guess I can hope Kishi is saving her for some grand but who knows just how grand.

Don

Well, it's really hard to pinpoint who he meant there. Given the rookies were the ones who we pretty much started out with in the beginning, I figured he was talking about them, but they've not been shining much. Just Hinata really. I don't think he's basing this off of the polls. If that were the case, Hinata would probably have been a lot more prominent in the past given the praise she receives.

NS4life

That could be so, but I don't think they're that short on men considering the cloak saved/protected them, and she looks to be the only Hyuuga there. LOL I'll hope for some NS interaction but if he keeps the focus on Kakashi and Obito, he may just skip it all together since he seems to enjoy keeping their interactions at a minimal these days.

[alexander]

The answer is that you don't need to care about Hinata. This development we got lately was an mess. Not only it was extremely out of place for Hinata to grow an backbone all of a sudden just because Kishimoto felt like it was the time to do something with her, but because her background doesn't allow us to care about her. All the way before this arc she never did many significant things. it was aways about her and Naruto. It's largely annoying how it seems that she is ready to ignore all her duties just to an chance to appeal to Naruto. It makes her character very vain. You just can't take what she does seriously anymore.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Is it really a closure?

I'll be honest I don't care about Hinata anymore. I used to like her, then I hated her, now I am completely indifferent about her. I don't know if this is my fault or Kishi's fault. I would like to think it is Kishi's fault for not doing anything with her except the obvious for so long. I just didn't care. Unlike Sakura who we saw go through trials or even other side-characters like Shikamaru who went through his sensei dying, but Hinata....it seemed like her only real problem was not being with Naruto. Granted, she has other problems in her life, but the manga made it out to be like it was no big deal. "Her father hated her and said she wasn't strong." So? She was still going to be clan leader regardless and it just seemed like "It's not important enough to touch upon." The manga itself ignored it and ignored it to the point that even we forgot about it while reading. Just like Hinata, it was a background problem that didn't really matter.

Now, we have these moments of Hinata now and you yourself say this is closure for Hinata. Okay, what closure? Her being a leader of her clan? Her being a stronger person? The manga never cared about this before so why now? The only issue the manga seemed to cared about was NaruHina. That seems like a bigger closure than her being a leader to her clan so why not just close the pairing out? Yet this is one topic that seems the most important that Kishi continues to dance around. Like I said, ask a NaruHina fan and I bet you the most important thing about Hinata is not her strength or leadership to the clan, but her love for Naruto.

I just don't care anymore and I realize that this is really sad. Some people hate the Hinata panels, others like the Hinata's panels, but I...don't care at all. I seriously just don't care one bit about her character or whether or not she becomes a clan leader. I don't care if she gets stronger or if she lives or dies. The NaruHina fans and Hinata fans try to persuade me that Hinata is more important than I think she is, the manga itself tells me otherwise. Kishi...I don't even think Kishi cares anymore about Hinata. I think he is just putting her there just to do it. It would explain a lot. Unlike other characters like Sakura; like Shikamaru who at least were good enough to show these progressions. To see them face trails and continue to either fail or prevail shows that he has a thinking process for them. Hinata though: "There is a problem, then it is fixed." You don't see Hinata struggle with the problem. You don't see her standing up for herself against her father. Heck, she barely did against Neji and it was Naruto who ended up changing Neji's mind. So again, she left it to others to solve her problems for her.

I really want to ask now...why should I care about Hinata now? If someone can tell me a good reason, then I will change my beat, but now I don't even see Hinata anymore unless she is forcibly pushed into my face.

Hm, perhaps a bit of both. People really fixated that her plot is Naruto, and while Naruto is needed for her development, it's not that he's the target to do all this, rather a source of it. In fillers, manga, anime, or even games, it's about Naruto giving her a seal of approval if she is strong or not. I believe she asked this before she went unconscious in the Chuunin exam. She got her answer in this arc. Pain Arc was like a buildup and asking for one more chance to see if she is strong and I guess you can say it takes a near lost situation to push her. Now, in this battle, it's about showing them their result of these past developments, which she has shown as well as others. Is it closure? Yes and no (maybe). Yes, because there's no more room to add to it since she finally achieved it. No, because perhaps when the war is over, she may get a few words from her father about the loss of Neji (if he doesn't get revived) and the future of Hyuuga (her being ready). That is if her father isn't dead. I said maybe because it depends if Kishi gives a crap, much like Pain Arc, the one who close it are the one Naruto cares for the most. Kakashi helping him like teacher being proud of Naruto, foreshadowing of a best friend becoming a girlfriend, and a father-like figure being proud of his "son". Heck, if you go by the volume version, it even fade to Sasuke.

Now it is Kishi's fault for timing, because it happens so quick for her at least because again, you noticed that her resolution development happened in this arc, which sure took a while to happen. Let's say he concluded that moment back in the end of Pain Arc, then that's less screentime for her. But, because Kishi held it off for too long, everything seems to get complicated. Team 10 got their own stuff, so it's not like they were pending for previous developments. You can say Asuma is like a new one by Kishi. In a way, I still see myself him favoring Team 10 because they have in pending developments, but Kishi did it, let alone doing on the guy, who according to the poll at least, not even popular. Hinata was still waiting and it was a long wait. Now, she got it and then, uh oh, we have that phase that Kishi has to shine characters, so now it feels like she's getting two for the price of one, and it happens quickly in terms of gap. So yeah, Kishi's fault on timing.

Now, should you care? Eh, it's a bit too late knowing that she's about to get annihilated by Juubi, making a clean-up job to make room for Team 7 glory moments. I guess that's the point of the chapter to show everyone is about to get sweep. At the same time, it's about going out with a fight and always got him covered, which is why Naruto praises everyone. Sadly, this is the second chapter of the volume, so too early for comeback system, only downhill until reaching the end of the middle. Think as wrestling. The good guy(s) loses badly and hope seems lost, but then, a comeback happens and the good guy don't go down without a fight. Whether the good guy win or lose, at least he managed to fight back. Anyway, yeah, I'm not here trying to change your mind, just throwing my two cents there.

[Don-kun]

Nice post NaruSaku4Life3g.
Even when I don't agree with them being annihilated I do share the feelings that they will get beaten very badly. I still remember Kishimoto saying that everyone will fall like flies.

I don't know what Kishi's game is at this point with her. It's growing tiresome though. I'm a bit indifferent toward pairings as a whole lately. I mean, I still fully believe NS is the endgame, but given how's he treated her, her interactions with Naruto and such, I just really want Sakura development with NS development being the bonus. It seems she'll become more relevant when our favorite sharingan user makes his reappearance but who knows in what way. I guess I can hope Kishi is saving her for some grand but who knows just how grand.

Don

Well, it's really hard to pinpoint who he meant there. Given the rookies were the ones who we pretty much started out with in the beginning, I figured he was talking about them, but they've not been shining much. Just Hinata really. I don't think he's basing this off of the polls. If that were the case, Hinata would probably have been a lot more prominent in the past given the praise she receives.

NS4life

That could be so, but I don't think they're that short on men considering the cloak saved/protected them, and she looks to be the only Hyuuga there. LOL I'll hope for some NS interaction but if he keeps the focus on Kakashi and Obito, he may just skip it all together since he seems to enjoy keeping their interactions at a minimal these days.

I don't want to believe that he is basing the shining moment on popularity poll but nothing else can explain why he has not given the rest of the Rookies the same treatment plus making Hinata more prominent is kind of stepping in the fanfiction territory where Hinata repleaces Naruto as the Main character, I think that because she has such a huge fandom he is trying to give the readers something more than just a pairing fodder character that only thinks about Naruto.

The answer is that you don't need to care about Hinata. This development we got lately was an mess. Not only it was extremely out of place for Hinata to grow an backbone all of a sudden just because Kishimoto felt like it was the time to do something with her, but because her background doesn't allow us to care about her. All the way before this arc she never did many significant things. it was always about her and Naruto. It's largely annoying how it seems that she is ready to ignore all her duties just to an chance to appeal to Naruto. It makes her character very vain. You just can't take what she does seriously anymore.

Even when I'm not that happy about Hinata getting so much attention that could of being given to Sakura, I will not deny that I'm happy that she is finally growing a backbone and her character are starting to revolve less on less around her feelings for Naruto.

Edited by Don-kun, 10 May 2013 - 03:22 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

NS4life

That could be so, but I don't think they're that short on men considering the cloak saved/protected them, and she looks to be the only Hyuuga there. LOL I'll hope for some NS interaction but if he keeps the focus on Kakashi and Obito, he may just skip it all together since he seems to enjoy keeping their interactions at a minimal these days.

Yeah, but then everyone else would be up and standing, won't they? The thing is Naruto has to control it like put more focus when it's needed. For example, when Sakura almost got hit, Naruto has to put force into it. The more he does that, the more chakra he loses. It's not easy according to Kuruma and Sakura. The chakra protection can protect them to certain extent, but that doesn't mean they can take all of it. The blast should have been it, but Naruto decided to use all of his chakra to protect everyone, which is why he is now normal and the point is that Naruto helped them, so let's repay him. Also, who to say it can always protect. It's like Shikamaru back in Pain Arc. He survived the blast, but his leg got twisted or something, so you can protect damage wise, but not really everything like risk of breaking arm or getting stab or cut or anything else. Otherwise, everyone will be Wolverine in terms of tanking hits.

Side character does not get progressive development it just happen, that's why they are called side characters, the difference with Naruto and Sakura is that they are main character so we will see how they progress step by step, this happens with a lot a stories when it comes to side characters vs main characters.



What I meant is that if it wasn't for RTN I would be worry has hell of why Hinata is getting that much focus, but after that movie I acknowledge how hard Naruto franchise and Kishi tries to keep the readers interested while giving them what they want without going against his final plan.

That's what I said yesterday about side characters. It's just I'm tired because I want developments in plot and so far, in terms of Obito, it's good.

Oh I see what you mean. Wow, why I get the feeling a lot of people I know in here start to see things differently after the movie. It's most likely just me, but I am hearing more positive note, and not just for NS, but in general. Maybe I must have missed something.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 10 May 2013 - 03:16 PM.

[StriderC]

Yeah, but then everyone else would be up and standing, won't they? The thing is Naruto has to control it like put more focus when it's needed. For example, when Sakura almost got hit, Naruto has to put force into it. The more he does that, the more chakra he loses. It's not easy according to Kuruma and Sakura. The chakra protection can protect them to certain extent, but that doesn't mean they can take all of it. The blast should have been it, but Naruto decided to use all of his chakra to protect everyone, which is why he is now normal and the point is that Naruto helped them, so let's repay him. Also, who to say it can always protect. It's like Shikamaru back in Pain Arc. He survived the blast, but his leg got twisted or something, so you can protect damage wise, but not really everything like risk of breaking arm or getting stab or cut or anything else. Otherwise, everyone will be Wolverine in terms of tanking hits.

Given how minimal the damage was to the ones standing, I do think that a majority of them were unhurt, and for those who did get hurt a bit, they're likely going to be healed just like Sakura's healing Naruto now. We're not even aware of the limitations of the protection of the cloak, but given he's saved more than ten, he must of instantaneously protected them all at once with his chakra cloak thus saving a wide margin of them. The cloak is that powerful after all. This isn't like the slug summon's technique. It protects because that's what Naruto wills it to do, and that's what he willed it to do.

[James S Cassidy]

Hm, perhaps a bit of both. People really fixated that her plot is Naruto, and while Naruto is needed for her development, it's not that he's the target to do all this, rather a source of it. In fillers, manga, anime, or even games, it's about Naruto giving her a seal of approval if she is strong or not. I believe she asked this before she went unconscious in the Chuunin exam. She got her answer in this arc. Pain Arc was like a buildup and asking for one more chance to see if she is strong and I guess you can say it takes a near lost situation to push her. Now, in this battle, it's about showing them their result of these past developments, which she has shown as well as others. Is it closure? Yes and no (maybe). Yes, because there's no more room to add to it since she finally achieved it. No, because perhaps when the war is over, she may get a few words from her father about the loss of Neji (if he doesn't get revived) and the future of Hyuuga (her being ready). That is if her father isn't dead. I said maybe because it depends if Kishi gives a crap, much like Pain Arc, the one who close it are the one Naruto cares for the most. Kakashi helping him like teacher being proud of Naruto, foreshadowing of a best friend becoming a girlfriend, and a father-like figure being proud of his "son". Heck, if you go by the volume version, it even fade to Sasuke.

Now it is Kishi's fault for timing, because it happens so quick for her at least because again, you noticed that her resolution development happened in this arc, which sure took a while to happen. Let's say he concluded that moment back in the end of Pain Arc, then that's less screentime for her. But, because Kishi held it off for too long, everything seems to get complicated. Team 10 got their own stuff, so it's not like they were pending for previous developments. You can say Asuma is like a new one by Kishi. In a way, I still see myself him favoring Team 10 because they have in pending developments, but Kishi did it, let alone doing on the guy, who according to the poll at least, not even popular. Hinata was still waiting and it was a long wait. Now, she got it and then, uh oh, we have that phase that Kishi has to shine characters, so now it feels like she's getting two for the price of one, and it happens quickly in terms of gap. So yeah, Kishi's fault on timing.

Now, should you care? Eh, it's a bit too late knowing that she's about to get annihilated by Juubi, making a clean-up job to make room for Team 7 glory moments. I guess that's the point of the chapter to show everyone is about to get sweep. At the same time, it's about going out with a fight and always got him covered, which is why Naruto praises everyone. Sadly, this is the second chapter of the volume, so too early for comeback system, only downhill until reaching the end of the middle. Think as wrestling. The good guy(s) loses badly and hope seems lost, but then, a comeback happens and the good guy don't go down without a fight. Whether the good guy win or lose, at least he managed to fight back. Anyway, yeah, I'm not here trying to change your mind, just throwing my two cents there.

Hmmm...you have a point, but I don't know. I keep looking at the fanbase again at this. I keep thinking or wondering "Does the fanbase really care about Hinata's closure with her clan and father?" From what I keep seeing no one does. All they care about is how "heroic" she is or how "she is gonna end up with Naruto." So with the fans it is either NaruHina or bust.

I guess at the end of the day what I really want to know is "Does it matter?"

BTW, whether or not he decides to kill her off, I hope he doesn't give her a Disney Death again

Edited by James S Cassidy, 10 May 2013 - 03:35 PM.

[Don-kun]

Yeah, but then everyone else would be up and standing, won't they? The thing is Naruto has to control it like put more focus when it's needed. For example, when Sakura almost got hit, Naruto has to put force into it. The more he does that, the more chakra he loses. It's not easy according to Kuruma and Sakura. The chakra protection can protect them to certain extent, but that doesn't mean they can take all of it. The blast should have been it, but Naruto decided to use all of his chakra to protect everyone, which is why he is now normal and the point is that Naruto helped them, so let's repay him. Also, who to say it can always protect. It's like Shikamaru back in Pain Arc. He survived the blast, but his leg got twisted or something, so you can protect damage wise, but not really everything like risk of breaking arm or getting stab or cut or anything else. Otherwise, everyone will be Wolverine in terms of tanking hits.


That's what I said yesterday about side characters. It's just I'm tired because I want developments in plot and so far, in terms of Obito, it's good.

Oh I see what you mean. Wow, why I get the feeling a lot of people I know in here start to see things differently after the movie. It's most likely just me, but I am hearing more positive note, and not just for NS, but in general. Maybe I must have missed something.

No you didn't I'm talking about the trailers and advertisement vs the movie content, normally a trailer and the advertisement are a glimpse of what to expect from a movie but in Naruto's case is just a cheap way to attract more attention.

When it comes to pairing NaruSakuSasu is the only pairing that makes me think a lot, everything else now kind of feels like fanservice.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Given how minimal the damage was to the ones standing, I do think that a majority of them were unhurt, and for those who did get hurt a bit, they're likely going to be healed just like Sakura's healing Naruto now. We're not even aware of the limitations of the protection of the cloak, but given he's saved more than ten, he must of instantaneously protected them all at once with his chakra cloak thus saving a wide margin of them. The cloak is that powerful after all. This isn't like the slug summon's technique. It protects because that's what Naruto wills it to do, and that's what he willed it to do.

Yeah, but we don't even know how much damage did they cause during Sasuke's side of the story. They were running short and even if they were protected by his chakra, the blast did it worse because for all we know, those who got hit by it directly, like those lightning strike and all, it's only so far you can protect many. It's like this. If I have chakra protection and took a nuke head on, I'm dead or at least, if super lucky, I will lose many body's parts but at least I am alive. Then we have like 10 people who are far away from nuke and they get the shockwave blast, they will be protected, badly damaged or not. The point is some may get hurt head on, especially when Obito and Madara were fighting with Katon and what not. But oh well, now they are screwed at the moment, especially not only Naruto has to recover, but so as Kuruma.

Hmmm...you have a point, but I don't know. I keep looking at the fanbase again at this. I keep thinking or wondering "Does the fanbase really care about Hinata's closure with her clan and father?" From what I keep seeing no one does. All they care about is how "heroic" she is or how "she is gonna end up with Naruto." So with the fans it is either NaruHina or bust.

I guess at the end of the day what I really want to know is "Does it matter?"

Oh ok. Er, if you care for side characters, I guess so. Otherwise, eh, I want main plot to return. The fanbase who is more to NH is asking for disappointment. That's why I feel bad for Hinata because it should be about the acknowledgement of strength not finding love. Else, well depend on the circumstance, fangirl never wins the protagonist.

Disney death?

No you didn't I'm talking about the trailers and advertisement vs the movie content, normally a trailer and the advertisement are a glimpse of what to expect from a movie but in Naruto's case is just a cheap way to attract more attention.

When it comes to pairing NaruSakuSasu is the only pairing that makes me think a lot, everything else now kind of feels like fanservice.

Ok, but I was referring to people who once in low spirit are now in high spirit, let alone actually thinking about the plot like theories and such. Before it was like "Pairing this, pairing that." But now, I am seeing like born-again christian or something. Well, everything is fanservice. The real romance is within Team 7 though if that's the case, it seems obvious who's going to win. It would have been tough if the main character was Sakura, but since it's Naruto, the guy who once had nothing, yeah you can see it a miles away.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 10 May 2013 - 03:44 PM.

[HauntedCake]

I too, am getting sick and tired of being force fed Hinata every chapter as of late. Nothing can be done without Hinata's heroic seal of approval.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I too, am getting sick and tired of being force fed Hinata every chapter as of late. Nothing can be done without Hinata's heroic seal of approval.

If it makes you feel better, there's a good chance she will be out due to being in front protecting. So yay?

[James S Cassidy]

Disney death?

Yeah, you know...like in the Pein arc when it seemed like she died or seems like she should have died only to be fine the next chapter.