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[tonga1]

maybe the sakura problem is that her development is too predictable, we all know sakura will help naruto in his fight and we all know what will happen when sasuke comes to the battlefield.
the arrival of sasuke to battlefield tell us that sakura will not change his feelings for helping naruto because if that happen ss moment would not have any interest.
so for me the interesting thing to narusaku maybe will come after that "ss moment".

naruto feeling is more interesting if he will do something about sakura.




ssry for my english

Edited by tonga1, 24 April 2013 - 01:46 AM.

[Don-kun]

@James
I change my mind, I don't think I will bother anymore.

My Rating went from 5 to three because some don't agree with my opinion when I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone, honestly this is becoming too damn stressful is not fun anymore.
If people want to blindly believe in NS they are welcome, I will choose to reaming positive while accepting reality.


Is Sad to see all the respect I had for members here is completely banish by now.

Edited by Don-kun, 24 April 2013 - 02:01 AM.

[FrenchMyToast]

I really liked this chapter! The only thing that I had a problem with was that it seemed like too much was going on. Obito and Kakashi leave the main battlefield, Madara is getting all excited for Hashirama, the Juubi is out of control, and Naruto is still giving speeches all day. In fact, I was pretty confused after reading it. It wasn't a groundbreaking chapter, but it needed it happen.

And Sakura is finally back. I am kind of upset she wasn't doing something more noteworthy the entire time, but oh well. I loved the fact that while everyone else in the Alliance was admiring their powerups after getting Naruto's chakra, Sakura was worried for him. I'd like to see some fools say that Sakura doesn't care about Naruto now.

A lot of people were disappointed by this chapter because they thought Sasuke and the Kages would arrive immediately. I was kind of suprised by people who thought that. It took like 25 chapters for us to get back to Sasuke after Itachi's last words, so I'm guessing we aren't going to see him in a while. Like over 20 chapters. I think we're going to get a lot of Kakashi/Obito for the next few months, and when Sasuke arrives, we cut back to Madara and the Juubi. Kishi has put off Rin's death and Kakashi vs Obito for too long. Dammit I need closure.

Though this was obviously the best part of the chapter...

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[Inferno180]

I really liked this chapter! The only thing that I had a problem with was that it seemed like too much was going on. Obito and Kakashi leave the main battlefield, Madara is getting all excited for Hashirama, the Juubi is out of control, and Naruto is still giving speeches all day. In fact, I was pretty confused after reading it. It wasn't a groundbreaking chapter, but it needed it happen.

And Sakura is finally back. I am kind of upset she wasn't doing something more noteworthy the entire time, but oh well. I loved the fact that while everyone else in the Alliance was admiring their powerups after getting Naruto's chakra, Sakura was worried for him. I'd like to see some fools say that Sakura doesn't care about Naruto now.

A lot of people were disappointed by this chapter because they thought Sasuke and the Kages would arrive immediately. I was kind of suprised by people who thought that. It took like 25 chapters for us to get back to Sasuke after Itachi's last words, so I'm guessing we aren't going to see him in a while. Like over 20 chapters. I think we're going to get a lot of Kakashi/Obito for the next few months, and when Sasuke arrives, we cut back to Madara and the Juubi. Kishi has put off Rin's death and Kakashi vs Obito for too long. Dammit I need closure.

Though this was obviously the best part of the chapter...

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Well this can be the start of something, just like how Sasuke has not done stuff yet, Sakura has the potential to help in some upcoming event. She has not done anything but she can do something major, thats the good point. What was a bunch of simple theories became so much more. I'm just glad to see Sakura again and this chapter proves again how much she cares and trusts Naruto. Her concern only has evidence because Kurama is saying he is getting weaker. Sakura cares for Naruto, no doubt about that. This chapter was a win in the sense of all the potential interaction that can come. If sakura can get some event to lead her into a role to help Naruto, that it enough for me. This and her events when Sasuke comes back, are what I want to see, the return of Sasuke will, but no matter what I hope NaruSaku is the end, but as of this chapter, it is still high on track. NaruSaku has still has everything laid out, there is the possibility of even more being generated in the near future.

And yeah the best parts were the kakashi vs obito fight and insane madara, well as tobirama said, the uchiha are over emotional, is this madara's way showing how much he cares? Is he so generous to the world with his eye of the moon plan to give people everything they want?

[Beastbomb]

Figured many people would be hurt about this chapter, I worried about it at first because Sakura didn't get a power-up ( An ass-pull that I was wanting to happen but didn't). I also figured that Sakura was going to stay at the battlefield because of chp 573. Why would she leave Naruto at a time like this even after she said they were going to be together during this fight. Was very glad to see this chapter though, I was having an anxiety attack before I read it do to the recent ass-pulls. Still catching up to the recent posts, but figured that I have seen enough to add my opinion.

The forshadowing looks really promising for the upcoming chapters. I'm really excited about the upcoming events and can't wait for the next chapters. I'm really hopeful for a huge Sakura and NS moment coming up, but am also expecting a interaction between Sasuke and Sakura, just not something along SS bullsh*t. Be bad for the story if any pairing scenes between SS occur.

Finally, does anybody here still think that Obi/Rin parrallel could still happen? I would like to hear others thoughts since I haven't seen it touched upon much in this thread.

[Beastbomb]

That will be the last draw if NH fans use that short line to make it look like it was a NH moment.

I first thought that. But after I thought about it during the school day, I came to the conclusion that i was probably over-analyzing things...again

Edit: talking about panel were Naruto is saying he is selfish and it shows a Hinata and Shino in it.

Edited by Beastbomb, 24 April 2013 - 02:47 AM.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

So no chapter for 2 other weeks...

Can't wait to see what happen to Kakashi , i remember when he died first , he's dad said to him that he still have something to do, I hope that something is to shut Obito's mouth once and for all.

[Shadow1275]

@KnS

It would be interesting if the Heaven and Earth Paranormality was a sort of foreshadowing about NS considering that one of the most significant NS moments happened in the Heaven and Earth bridge back in the Sasuke Reunion arc.

I initially had the feeling that the Here, and From Now On chapter title had something to do with Sakura's resolve to help Naruto, but the more I try to think about it the more it looks that the title isn't related to anything for some reason.

Maybe since the Juubi has begun the ninja apocalypse it means that Here, and From Now On kitten gets real. I really don't know.

Not to mention the chunin exams. Sakura=Brains=Heaven. Naruto=Stamina=Earth.

[Tsubaki]

That was a nice chapter! Sakura is back and we even had a little NaruSaku moment.

well I decided not to worry about how Kishi is gonna do this or that anymore and just enjoy the ride... and I try my best to stay on it, If Kishi will really make NaruSaku canon as many of us (me including) believe so he's definitely has something big planned to validate this pairing .. the way is to wait and see.

[redragon88]

Well, on one hand Sawyer7mage at least acknowledges Sakura's presence in this chapter, on the other he tries the best he can to downplay her lines of concern towards Naruto by calling them irrelevant since Minato will make everything alright with the other half of the kyuubi's chakra. And as expected he says that she only appeared because of Sasuke's previous appearance.

Seriously, it's like people choose to forget that whether Naruto and Sakura end up together or not they have a significant bond with each other. You can bet that if it was Hinata worrying about Naruto that he would've gone 10 whole minutes about how great she was for thinking about his wellbeing.

And don't worry, I'm not saying Sawyer shouldn't give out his opinion, he has the right to do so. But I will also give my opinion on what annoys me regarding others reviews.

We don't even know if Minato is bringing Kurama's chakra with him, and we don't know to what extent it could help Naruto. We also don't know when exactly will Minato arrive to the battle so Naruto will probably have to deal with the juubi without him for a while.

It seriously baffles me how he can easily dismiss a potential foreshadowing of Sakura helping Naruto, and yet he makes a big deal out of Naruto saying "Hinata" in the chapter that Neji died.

[MangaReader]

^ Why do we even concern ourselves with that guy... he's bias as hell, we get it XD

[redragon88]

^ Why do we even concern ourselves with that guy... he's bias as hell, we get it XD

I know. I guess I just felt like ranting a little. It was just annoying to hear him say that what Sakura says is irrelevant. He doesn't even bother to think that it might have meaning. But you're right, he is bias so I shouldn't act as if this was unexpected.

My bad.

[Baiken]

I was not expecting Sakura to show up at all really. First reaction when her panel came up: My god. Oh. My. GAWD. Damn it! Damn you Kishimoto!

In all seriousness, it's nice, I suppose. Hate it and love it at the same time. On one hand, "Yay! Sakura's back." On the other, I'm like "We've waited this long...for this? Seriously?". Though, just seeing Sakura in this chapter was enough to cheer me up. But then Kishimoto throws in that panel with Hinata... Honestly, I hate to admit this but at this point, even looking at Hinata is starting to annoy me, ugh. @redragon88, I watched nearly a handful of 628 reviews a few hours ago and none of them, save for one (who also may or may not be an NS shipper, or at the very least I got a feeling she was a tad irked by NH fans following the 615 chapter), went into detail about Sakura's panel time. Whatever, what can you do? The hate is strong.

Also getting reaaally tired of the same back and forth bs between Naruto and Obito and am so glad Obito and Kakashi will be fighting one on one (Hope Kakashi wins and takes Obito's other eye, for justice). Lastly, Madara in that one panel just... jesus, that face!

....Would probably add more but, I'm tired, so yeah.

[Shadow1275]

I know. I guess I just felt like ranting a little. It was just annoying to hear him say that what Sakura says is irrelevant. He doesn't even bother to think that it might have meaning. But you're right, he is bias so I shouldn't act as if this was unexpected.

My bad.

Well, a lot of NH fans got hyped up after 615 and 627. As soon as Sakura gets any closer to Naruto they get super defensive. It can be frustrating for sure, but Sawyer was always like that. Hell I think I remember him calling Sakura a b**** five times straight in one of his videos. You just gotta ignore him.

[MangaReader]

I know. I guess I just felt like ranting a little. It was just annoying to hear him say that what Sakura says is irrelevant. He doesn't even bother to think that it might have meaning. But you're right, he is bias so I shouldn't act as if this was unexpected.

My bad.

I didn't mean it in a harsh way, it's just it seems like he get's what he wants when we bring him up and make claims about his complaining opinions XD

[redragon88]

Well, a lot of NH fans got hyped up after 615 and 627. As soon as Sakura gets any closer to Naruto they get super defensive. It can be frustrating for sure, but Sawyer was always like that. Hell I think I remember him calling Sakura a b**** five times straight in one of his videos. You just gotta ignore him.

I don't think Sawyer ever called her a b*tch. He might be somewhat bias but he's definitely not a hater. He's overall a cool guy, but if I disagree with something he says I won't hold my tongue about it.

Now that I think about it Kurama says that Naruto is having a hard time controlling the chakra that he already gave him. So if Naruto received even more chakra to control, which could come from Minato, that could potentially cause him even more trouble, unless there's someone that can help him alleviate the burden by revitalizing him. And that could be Sakura.

[Atheck]

I know. I guess I just felt like ranting a little. It was just annoying to hear him say that what Sakura says is irrelevant. He doesn't even bother to think that it might have meaning. But you're right, he is bias so I shouldn't act as if this was unexpected.

My bad.

And what does Hinata's relevance extend to when it comes to the general plot? I doubt this Sawyer individual has failed to consider just how little Hinata's character has provided except for recent events. Let's list her accomplishments since the beginning, shall we?

Hinata's Contributions

1. Apologized for Kiba before an argument could intensify between him and Naruto

2. Offered Naruto the option of mimicking her test answers which he refused

3. Performed reconnaissance duty that allowed Team 8 to locate Gaara's group and approach them which almost cost them their lives

4. Provided medicine to Naruto after he finished fighting Kiba which was of questionable value since his recovery speed is already greatly increased thanks to Kurama. It's a kind gesture nonetheless.

5. Provided Naruto with some emotional support when he was uncertain about his upcoming fight with Neji

6. Offered reconnaissance duty once again during the Itachi Pursuit arc that allowed the group to follow Tobi's movements and then later extinguish some Amaterasu burning flames whilst the group reached the Uchiha hideout ruins after Sasuke had already been taken away by Tobi

7. Attempted to protect Naruto from Pain when he was incapacitated. Instead of doing something practical like attempt to remove the stakes which might have actually helped she just decides to charge Pain in a futile attack after she gives her declaration of love. Of course she's promptly dealt with by a single ST but that's not before Naruto lost all sense of reasoning and transformed into 6 tailed Kurama. Whilst her actions may have indirectly saved Naruto's life had it not been for Minato's convenient storage of chakra in Naruto which was able to suppress Kurama after having been released then Konoha might have ceased to exist and we'd have the 9 tailed beast ravaging through the Land of Fire.

8. Fought alongside Neji against some Zetsu clones

9. Protected Naruto from Mokuton stakes

10. Perhaps her biggest contribution is the motivational speech she gave to Naruto which allowed him to pull himself up from the depths of despair. I'll give her credit for this because it's a major event albeit it's an overused concept since we already saw this happen during the Invasion of Pain arc.

11. Put Naruto's shoulder back into place

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Honestly, her relevance was at its peak during 614-617 but really in comparison to Sakura when you consider the entirety of the manga and not just the recent chapters Hinata is an irrelevant character. Sakura was saving Naruto's life back during the Land of Waves arc and even though Kishi really seems to be doing his best at downplaying the heroine in some of the recent chapters she's still had more plot significance than any other female except maybe Tsunade.

[Shadow1275]

I don't think Sawyer ever called her a b*tch. He might be somewhat bias but he's definitely not a hater. He's overall a cool guy, but if I disagree with something he says I won't hold my tongue about it.

Now that I think about it Kurama says that Naruto is having a hard time controlling the chakra that he already gave him. So if Naruto received even more chakra to control, which could come from Minato, that could potentially cause him even more trouble, unless there's someone that can help him alleviate the burden by revitalizing him. And that could be Sakura.

Technically he was saying that other ppl call her that but it's not like he denied it. Enough about Sawyer though.

I agree, I think that Sakura is going to help him in some way because she is the only one who notices that he is beginning to falter. Since Naruto is wheezing, we know that he can't keep this up much longer. The other thing is the Kages, they have been destroyed for about 20-25 chapters now so perhaps she will help them. I'm not sure about Minato arriving right away though, only because the teleportation jutsu thing requires a special mark.

[Dkey]

Well yesterday I was glad that Sakura showed up and about her concern for Naruto but today I'm pessimistic because even thou we see some potential intervention from her part it will be shadowed by the Kages and Taka arrival.

The only way I see things going now is that Naruto used everything he had to shield the alliance during that shock wave and now he is incapacitated. Now I'm not sure if the alliance will retreat or try to attack the Juubi again but probably Sakura will go and try to heal him. And when that happens the Kages show up. And we are going to have the same things over and over again. She is useless she is bla bla bla bla bla.

[MangaReader]

And what does Hinata's relevance extend to when it comes to the general plot? I doubt this Sawyer individual has failed to consider just how little Hinata's character has provided except for recent events. Let's list her accomplishments since the beginning, shall we?

Hinata's Contributions

1. Apologized for Kiba before an argument could intensify between him and Naruto

2. Offered Naruto the option of mimicking her test answers which he refused

3. Performed reconnaissance duty that allowed Team 8 to locate Gaara's group and approach them which almost cost them their lives

4. Provided medicine to Naruto after he finished fighting Kiba which was of questionable value since his recovery speed is already greatly increased thanks to Kurama. It's a kind gesture nonetheless.

5. Provided Naruto with some emotional support when he was uncertain about his upcoming fight with Neji

6. Offered reconnaissance duty once again during the Itachi Pursuit arc that allowed the group to follow Tobi's movements and then later extinguish some Amaterasu burning flames whilst the group reached the Uchiha hideout ruins after Sasuke had already been taken away by Tobi

7. Attempted to protect Naruto from Pain when he was incapacitated. Instead of doing something practical like attempt to remove the stakes which might have actually helped she just decides to charge Pain in a futile attack after she gives her declaration of love. Of course she's promptly dealt with by a single ST but that's not before Naruto lost all sense of reasoning and transformed into 6 tailed Kurama. Whilst her actions may have indirectly saved Naruto's life had it not been for Minato's convenient storage of chakra in Naruto which was able to suppress Kurama after having been released then Konoha might have ceased to exist and we'd have the 9 tailed beast ravaging through the Land of Fire.

8. Fought alongside Neji against some Zetsu clones

9. Protected Naruto from Mokuton stakes

10. Perhaps her biggest contribution is the motivational speech she gave to Naruto which allowed him to pull himself up from the depths of despair. I'll give her credit for this because it's a major event albeit it's an overused concept since we already saw this happen during the Invasion of Pain arc.

11. Put Naruto's shoulder back into place

~~~
Honestly, her relevance was at its peak during 614-617 but really in comparison to Sakura when you consider the entirety of the manga and not just the recent chapters Hinata is an irrelevant character. Sakura was saving Naruto's life back during the Land of Waves arc and even though Kishi really seems to be doing his best at downplaying the heroine in some of the recent chapters she's still had more plot significance than any other female except maybe Tsunade.

Funny thing about that 4th point is it loses even more relevance since Naruto gave it to Sakura as a gift moments later.

People's blindness to a fictional character make them forget key points